Athlon X4 die size out

Since it's now sampling, the die size is revealed.

~141mm^2. It's smaller than the small I expected (around 150-170mm^2)!


As a comparison, here are some other interesting chip sizes.

Deneb (Phenom II X4): 243 mm^2
Agena (Phenom I X4): 283 mm^2 (Double the size :p:)
Brisbane (65nm Athlon X2): 126 mm^2

PREDICTION: Regor (45nm Athlon X2): ~80 mm^2, +/- 10mm^2.

So Regor isn't any more worthwhile, but Propus is definitely an interesting propos(mind the pun)ition. As far as AMD is concerned die size is back into the "safety zone" and they can charge a gamut of prices on this depending on clock speeds and core counts.

BTW here are the Intel sizes too.

Nehalem (Core i7): 246 mm^2
Wolfdale (E8XXX): 107mm^2
Wolfdale-3M: 82mm^2
Conroe (E6XXX): 143 mm^2
Allendale (E4XXX): 111 mm^2

I just measured my naked Windsor(3600+, 90 nm, 256 k L2 per core, basically Sempron X2) to be around 184 mm².

That's one friggin small chip for 4 cores. This is 65nm and 512k per core right? If so, then it should be a fun air cooling processor but not so sure for better cooling. Looks like I'll be having a hard time this semester keeping my mind in the books rather than playing with new cpus...

macadamia, do you have picture?

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Originally Posted by Nedjo

macadamia, do you have picture?

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Nope. :(

But most estimates after sampling time is accurate, Shanghai's die size was nearly there too...

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Originally Posted by Oldguy932

That's one friggin small chip for 4 cores. This is 65nm and 512k per core right? If so, then it should be a fun air cooling processor but not so sure for better cooling. Looks like I'll be having a hard time this semester keeping my mind in the books rather than playing with new cpus...

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This is 45nm and 512k per core. It will be the quad core Sempron. :D

A perfect upgrade for my HTPC in couple of months time :)
It should be low power as well (45W TDP@2.3GHz??)

Thanks for info Macadamia :up:

Holy Moly! That will be cheap if true! :eek:

Down on your knees:

Intel Tulsa - 424 mm²

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Originally Posted by Lightman

A perfect upgrade for my HTPC in couple of months time :)
It should be low power as well (45W TDP@2.3GHz??)

Thanks for info Macadamia :up:

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Lightman, are you using the MSI Diva board, the one that's part of the Maui platform? I'm looking into building an HTPC and from what i've read, it is fantastic.

so HT 3.0 on athlon x4 or still stick with 1000mhz ?

Whoa, that's quite small indeed. Didnt read much into i7, but that thing is actually quite big though. Oh well, then again Athlon X4 is only like a nice toy:p:

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Originally Posted by flippin_waffles

Lightman, are you using the MSI Diva board, the one that's part of the Maui platform? I'm looking into building an HTPC and from what i've read, it is fantastic.

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It's in my sig :p:
Asus 780G supporting 140W CPUs

Unfortunately MSI board wasn't available when I was gathering parts for my build.

Yup, right there in front of my bloody eyes! I think one of these will be perfect for my build though. I would have built one using the original Phenom also, but waiting for Xmas sales on HDTV's. :) Can't decide on plazma or LCD.

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Originally Posted by demonkevy666

so HT 3.0 on athlon x4 or still stick with 1000mhz ?

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well... HT3.0 is already on Athlon... X2... 7750... Black Edition ;)

anyhow since we lack proper picture, let's do some photo-chopping :D

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9...opusdiefp7.jpg

Congrats Macadamia!! :clap::clap:


You've made it to the news!!

http://www.techpowerup.com/79451/AMD..._Surface?.html