At first I was going to post this in news but decided since it gets alot more negative attention decided to post it here. Hopefully this thread will stay somewhat clean.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=9599
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At first I was going to post this in news but decided since it gets alot more negative attention decided to post it here. Hopefully this thread will stay somewhat clean.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=9599
Thanks chew*,good link.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
This is an old story, the date of the article is Nov 2007....!!
There's no news in it and it's referring to reference designs, which at this point hopefully mobo manufacturers have already started producing mobos ready for AM3 in the New Year.
Was hoping to see some early mobo designs from the top manufacturers...!!
Now if any tier 1 companies want to make a winner here's what they need to do.
4 usb back I/O, ditch the onboard graphics, 1 1394 fire wire will suffice I/O not necessary.
Additonal USB with todays USB devices a total of 10 total is not absurd
Ditch 1 IDE and Floppy connections *EDIT* 1 IDE Would be necessary to keep customers with existing quality peripherals.
Make the cpu socket clear of obstructions. *edit* optional mounting holes for optional orientation of aftermarket cooling.
Beef up the power scheme.*Edit* quality passive cooling all around
*edit* clean power, if you need an example - reference ati manta or grouper which i'm sure can even be improved upon.
6 or more sata mounted sideways off the edge of the board.
Make sure that installing ram is not impeded by having a card installed in PCI X 1.
*EDIT* Make sure ram is spaced taking oversized coolers in mind so that taller ram modules can be used without interference
*EDIT* Gigabyte lan
Plenty of PCI E slots, 1 additional x16 PCI X slot with as much space as possible between the 2 x16PCI X slots, and if they feel the need to use a regular PCI slot stick it at the bottom. *Edit* Ensuring that at least one PCI and PCIe slot will not be blocked when using 2 Dual slot vid cards.
Well placed auxillary power connectors
Stay away from the bold colors, a black board with white slots would work wonders or even all black or white with black slots.
I would personally ditch ps/2 connections. who uses a ps2 mouse or keyboard anymore.......*edit* 1 Ps/2 for keyboard may be necessary as USB still has some issues especially for new installs, acess to bios and wake from KB.
Power and reset buttons built onto the motherboard!!!!!!!!!!! very little space and cost.......
If asus is reading this an OC palm!!!!!!!!!!!
Azalia audio is ok, most will have they're own soundcard.
!!!*EDIT*!!! Tweaking/OC options, These are a must for a enthusiast board, manta reference and DFI NF4 Ultra D ( although I hated it ) would be a good guide of what offered great tweaking/OC options............IMHO a good board will survive the utmost abuse and is more than capable of killing a cpu if used wrong.............IF you can't kill a cpu then you aren't pushing the max limits of a CPU....
Have i missed anything.
Last time i checked this is november 2007, And i'm still searching for possible sneak peaks of an AM3 reference design. If the web doesn't yield anything I will try resort to a few of "my people" It does give us an overview of what the motherboard makers can choose to do with the platform, If enough noise is made we may get what we want. It's worked before.
one thing i like about AMD is their upgradeability feature
i remember my good old Asus (A7V133) that ran a 800MHz Athlon and then later upgraded to 1.7GHz Palomino with some beta bioses
that setup is STILL working. My father in law got the upgrade from my downgrade :rofl::D.
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A year has passed since you last checked, apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
OOps got my year wrong, anyway I found it under new news at a few sites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgoth Bauglir
LOL what do you mean "wants" to beQuote:
Originally Posted by soundood
chew* already is :yepp::)
Well, being younger by a year wasn't necessarily bad, you know:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
actually I forgot that i have my year turned back on my pc.....I have a program that expires in 08 and it utilyzes windows date for the termination :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
ever since AMD died off you kinda dissapearedQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
i am not surprised at all to see you think it's 2007 :D
this year or two definitely are forgettable for true AMD enthusiast (NO i'm not talking about you freak lynch mob fanbois but normal ppl like chew* :p: )
just surprised that s7 has not surfaced yet lol
yah s7's been pmed' as well as a couple of "my people"Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Look what i found
http://xtreview.com/images/ASUS%20L1a64%20WS.jpg
Not to be confused with this.......Look close at the model #
http://usa.asus.com/prog_content/mid...spx?model=1984
Still searching however I did get a pic of a reference AMD board not sure if DDR 3. Hopefull someone can identify notch placement, I'll get pic up in a few.
After closer inspection this looks like a 790 ddr2 reference motherboard.
http://members.cox.net/bostonreefer1/Reference.jpg
I think that is the fiorano refernce board. The new server platform with ht 3 and better io virtualisation.
EDIT: Hmm no was that one
http://www.hardware-infos.com/img/st...lattform_1.jpg
http://www.hardware-infos.com/news.php?news=2337
Would be sweet if AMD's answer to I7 was dual FX desktop cpu's......It worked in the graphic department....
Those unlocked shanghais would be quite expensive, at least as expensive as their top modell. If then hexacores labled HX. :)
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Originally Posted by dinos22
Really not because amd died, I could have lived with mediocre clocks IF when frozen they scaled and didn't bug :( More important to me than the "6gig+" news is the more oftenly overlooked fact that they have apparently fixed the coldbug, that means my 3 phase units can get some loving again and I will need to buy/make a new DI tube or 2 if the board above is where amd plans to go.:D
I'd like to see an option to mount bolt through coolers like the Thermalright Ultra 120 extreme in both orientations so that you could clear tall memory modules and not be restricted in which dimm slots you can use or which memory you can use.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
With a TRUE on the 790FXB-M2RSH I can't run dual channel with tall RAM like my G.Skill PI kit and on my Fatal1ty AN9 32X with its DIMM channels paired up I an just able to run the tall G.Skill PI ram in dual channel - but the TRUE causes the first module to lean into the second. It's a tight fit but it works - just.
Cheers
Thats actually a very good and valid point. I had originally planned on using dominators in my build but my OCZ cooler interferes with tall ram.......
Well I guess I'm weird, I want 1 IDE channel :p: I have a good solid dual format dual layer IDE DVD burner and no reason to replace it :shrug:
If they were to ditch IDE though, then give at least 6 SATA. 4 won't cut it with no IDE!
I want at least 1 PCI slot that won't get blocked by double height graphics cards for my Audigy 2 ZS. Again, it works great (with Daniel_K's drivers) so no desire to find a replacement.
6 USB ports on the rear IO panel is nice, but 4 will do.
Must have gigabit ethernet!
Black boards are :cool:
hahah niceQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
cant wait to see the chatterbox back in action :D
Edited also valid points.
I kind of like the placement of the NB on that reference 790, sort of out of the way.
Does anyone agree disagree that 4 PCI X is overkill?
Yeah 4 is overkill and since you cant use 4 dual slot cards its useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I prefer the DFI 790FX layout much better with the 3 pcie.
Personally I think Xfire & SLI are both overkill (but I'm not a hardcore gamer). At the rate VC's advance, there will probably be a better single slot solution within the next 6 months, that costs less than 2 cards... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I agree with ya though chew*... I would be more tempted to buy a board with 2/16x slots, 2/4x slots and 2/PCI slots.
Maybe I'm the exception... :D