Shanghai Results (Opteron 2384, 2.7GHz)

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11-11-2008, 02:37 PM
Bellisimo

Shanghai Results (Opteron 2384, 2.7GHz)

Here are the results, i know i should include a source normally, but i cannot, because i dont want the site to get into any problems, any mod/admin can PM me though, but i dont want to throw such kind of info to the public

Bench: Sungard AA
AMD Opteron 2384: 249.6s
AMD Opteron 2356: 300.2s
Intel Xeon X5470: 180.1s
Intel Xeon L5430: 230.2s

Bench: Caselab Euler 3D
AMD Opteron 2384: 63.1s
AMD Opteron 2356: 84s
Intel Xeon X5470: 64.2s
Intel Xeon L5430: 66.9

Bench: Cinebench R10
AMD Opteron 2384: 19357
AMD Opteron 2356: 15372
Intel Xeon X5470: 24624
Intel Xeon L5430: 19997

Bench: FlamMap FSPRO
AMD Opteron 2384: 427s
AMD Opteron 2356: 512s
Intel Xeon X5470: 309s
Intel Xeon L5430: 376s

Bench: Half-Life2 Build Map
AMD Opteron 2384: 91s
AMD Opteron 2356: 109s
Intel Xeon X5470: 75s
Intel Xeon L5430: 87s

Bench: HWI MySQL - Concurrency 2
AMD Opteron 2384: 1608 trans/s
AMD Opteron 2356: 1498 trans/s
Intel Xeon X5470: 1475 trans/s
Intel Xeon L5430: 1455 trans/s

Bench: HWI MySQL - Concurrency 4
AMD Opteron 2384: 3072 trans/s
AMD Opteron 2356: 2948 trans/s
Intel Xeon X5470: 2753 trans/s
Intel Xeon L5430: 2741 trans/s

Bench: HWI MySQL - Concurrency 8
AMD Opteron 2384: 5646 trans/s
AMD Opteron 2356: 4944 trans/s
Intel Xeon X5470 4633 trans/s
Intel Xeon L5430: 4648 trans/s

Bench: HWI MySQL - Concurrency 16
AMD Opteron 2384: 5961 trans/s
AMD Opteron 2356: 4286 trans/s
Intel Xeon X5470 5846 trans/s
Intel Xeon L5430: 4766 trans/s

Bench: HWI MySQL - Concurrency 32
AMD Opteron 2384: 6123 trans/s
AMD Opteron 2356: 4970 trans/s
Intel Xeon X5470: 6046 trans/s
Intel Xeon L5430: 4838 trans/s

Bench: PovRay 3.7b21 - Chess 1280*1024
AMD Opteron 2384: 58.4s
AMD Opteron 2356: 69.4
Intel Xeon X5470 48.1s
Intel Xeon L5430: 59.1s

Bench: Sissoft Sandra 2009 - Intercore Bandwidth
AMD Opteron 2384: 7.46 Gbit/s
AMD Opteron 2356: 5.79 Gbit/s
Intel Xeon X5470: 25.7 Gbit/s
Intel Xeon L5430: 21.9 Gbit/s

Bench: Sissoft Sandra 2009 - Intercore Latency
AMD Opteron 2384: 107ns
AMD Opteron 2356: 164ns
Intel Xeon X5470 104ns
Intel Xeon L5430: 101ns

Bench: Sissoft Sandra 2009 - L1 latency
AMD Opteron 2384: 3clk
AMD Opteron 2356: 3clk
Intel Xeon X5470 3clk
Intel Xeon L5430: 3clk

Bench: Sissoft Sandra 2009 - L2 Latency
AMD Opteron 2384: 16clk
AMD Opteron 2356: 16clk
Intel Xeon X5470: 18clk
Intel Xeon L5430: 18clk

Bench: Sissoft Sandra 2009 - Memory Bandwidth
AMD Opteron 2384: 20.41 Gbit/s
AMD Opteron 2356: 17.75 Gbit/s
Intel Xeon X5470: 4.05 Gbit/s
Intel Xeon L5430: 4.05 Gbit/s

Bench: Sissoft Sandra 2009 - Memory Latency
AMD Opteron 2384: 105 ns
AMD Opteron 2356: 118 ns
Intel Xeon X5470: 126 ns
Intel Xeon L5430: 127 ns

Idle Power Concumption
AMD Opteron 2384: 100W
AMD Opteron 2356: 109W
Intel Xeon X5470: 170W
Intel Xeon L5430: 169W

Power Consumption (Cinenbench)
AMD Opteron 2384: 197W
AMD Opteron 2356: 226W
Intel Xeon X5470: 277W
Intel Xeon L5430: 227W

Power Consumption (HWI SQL CC 32)
AMD Opteron 2384: 143W
AMD Opteron 2356: 167W
Intel Xeon X5470: 206W
Intel Xeon L5430: 188W

Enjoy ;)
11-11-2008, 02:39 PM
Sly Fox

Time will tell I suppose just how accurate this is.

Info is good though, so thank you for posting.
11-11-2008, 02:42 PM
Mechromancer

Those aren't bad results at all. It is the MySQL champion in these tests. I think AMD delivered on their performance gain claim over current Opterons with room to spare. Those latencies dropped tremendously.
11-11-2008, 02:45 PM
justthefax

Just FYI:

AMD Opteron 2384: 2.7 GHz
AMD Opteron 2356: 2.3 GHz
Intel Xeon X5470: 3.33 GHz
Intel Xeon L5430: 2.66 GHz

For clock/clock comparisons: Optie 2384 vs Xeon L5430
11-11-2008, 02:53 PM
Trunks

all it needs now is a Chipset with HT 3.0 support :yepp:
11-11-2008, 03:07 PM
alexio

If this is true then AMD did very well actually :)

The big question is: will it scale to more impressive clocks?
11-11-2008, 03:08 PM
MomijiTMO

Power consumption is great.
11-11-2008, 03:13 PM
eric66

hmmm really nice improvement
11-11-2008, 03:29 PM
Eson

Memory Latency = L3 Latency + Memory Latency?
I mean can you somehow see if L3 got better latency on Shanghai vs. Barcelona?

L3 Latency = Intercore Latency?
11-11-2008, 03:33 PM
Bellisimo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eson

Memory Latency = L3 Latency + Memory Latency?
I mean can you somehow see if L3 got better latency on Shanghai vs. Barcelona?

L3 Latency = Intercore Latency?

sorry, dont know the answer, i got these results throug some logical thinking and playing with URLs
11-11-2008, 03:35 PM
terrace215

Not so good when you normalize for clock frequency vs. Barc

In particular, the first few MySql tests are disappointing.

It would be much better though, if you would underclock the Shanghai to 2.3GHz, so the clock/clock comparison to Barc would be completely clear.
11-11-2008, 03:37 PM
Bellisimo

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrace215

In particular, the first few MySql tests are disappointing.

It would be much better though, if you would underclock the Shanghai to 2.3GHz, so the clock/clock comparison to Barc would be completely clear.

5430 to 5470 doesn't scale well, so i assume clock frequency doesnt matter that much?
11-11-2008, 03:55 PM
fellix_bg

Quote:

Bench: Sissoft Sandra 2009 - Memory Latency
AMD Opteron 2384: 105 ns
AMD Opteron 2356: 118 ns
Intel Xeon X5470: 126 ns
Intel Xeon L5430: 127 ns

The memory latency is just 2ns higher than the one for Dunnington's L3 array. :D
11-11-2008, 04:11 PM
PetNorth

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I did some numbers (BTW, power consumption is absolutely nice)
11-11-2008, 04:23 PM
AliG

Quote:

Originally Posted by justthefax

Just FYI:

AMD Opteron 2384: 2.7 GHz
AMD Opteron 2356: 2.3 GHz
Intel Xeon X5470: 3.33 GHz
Intel Xeon L5430: 2.66 GHz

For clock/clock comparisons: Optie 2384 vs Xeon L5430

hmm with that in mind I think AMD has done a tremendous job with shanghai, but they will still definitely have to get their clockspeed up.
11-11-2008, 05:29 PM
Miss Banana

Wow.
Amd is back?
11-11-2008, 06:06 PM
JumpingJack

Yes indeedy... Shanghai is shaping up nicely.

Do you know if these were single or dual socket results ... I am assuming dual socket based on the numbers.

Jack
11-11-2008, 06:15 PM
JumpingJack

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eson

Memory Latency = L3 Latency + Memory Latency?
I mean can you somehow see if L3 got better latency on Shanghai vs. Barcelona?

L3 Latency = Intercore Latency?

I think the intercore latency would be a better clue, and yes, it looks like L3 improved.

Bench: Sissoft Sandra 2009 - Intercore Latency
AMD Opteron 2384: 107ns
AMD Opteron 2356: 164ns

This would imply improved L3 latency.

Jack
11-11-2008, 06:25 PM
cegras

It's nice to see tangible improvements across the block for the transition to 45nm.
11-11-2008, 06:25 PM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by PetNorth

I did some numbers (BTW, power consumption is absolutely nice)

thx, pretty much proofs that the "20-25% more performance" is not clock for clock. :up:

anyway nice performance increasment for deneb.

btw. anyone wana normalize the opteron scores?
11-11-2008, 06:28 PM
justthefax

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornet331

btw. anyone wana normalize the opteron scores?

Here we go:
11-11-2008, 06:37 PM
demonkevy666

these opertons are they still on the old HT ? like Barcelona is ?
11-11-2008, 06:40 PM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by justthefax

I'm doing them. Update in a few mins

thx much appreciated. :up:
11-11-2008, 06:41 PM
Periander6

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonkevy666

these opertons are they still on the old HT ? like Barcelona is ?

Yeah, the new HT is not supposed to be out till something like Q2 of next year. On the plus side, these are supposed to be drop-in upgrades for old Barcs.
11-11-2008, 06:53 PM
justthefax

I hope I didn't mess up the calculations! :D

But IPC doesn't seem to be improved much. Perf/watt is greatly improved though

I can't think of any way that performance would drop, though, so hopefully these are the minimum amount of improvements.

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