4GB Corsair PC3-9136C5DF @610Mhz 5-5-5-15

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05-02-2008, 09:24 AM
eva2000

4GB Corsair PC2-9136C5DF @610Mhz 5-5-5-15
Thanks to Corsair folks, I have the opportunity to take a pair of 2x2GB Corsair PC2-9136 Dominator (TWIN2X4096-9136C5DF) dual channel kit for a test drive :)

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...ir9136_001.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...ir9136_002.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...ir9136_004.jpg

Rated Specifications:
- 2x 2048MB matched CM2X2048-9136C5D modules
- 571Mhz or DDR2-1142MHz 5-5-5-15 2T
- 2.1v
- SPD: JEDEC standard 5-5-5-18 values at 800MHz
- SPD: EPP standard 5-5-5-15, 2.1V values
The 4GB Corsair PC2-9136 Dominator kit was tested and validated in Corsair's labs using an eVGA 680i SLI nvidia chipset motherboard (P32 bios) and comes with the Corsair Dominator Airflow fan which consists of 3x40mm fans just like the Corsair Dominator PC2-10000C5DF kit.

Viewing Corsair's latest IC inquiry thread listing of ICs, most of Corsair's product lines have transitioned to PSC - powerchip ICs and the 4GB Corsair PC2-9136 Dominators are no exception :)

System specs
- Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 L739A640
- Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme + 120x38mm Panaflo 103cfm (MX-2 TIM)
- DFI LP LT P38-T2R 1/11 Official bios
- 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
- 2x2GB Corsair PC2-9136C5DF Dominator dual channel kit (dimm 1+3 slots)
- 750GB Samsung HD753LJ
- Pioneer DVD-RW
- 620W Corsair HX620
- WinXP Pro SP2
Results:

Everest Ultimate SPD settings for modules - looks like week 12, 2008 made with a week 13 packaging date on module's Dominator heatsink label - 08130508 v1.1

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...verest_spd.png

I've started testing on DFI LT X38-T2R motherboard with 1/11 official bios and they overclock very easily just by setting memory to 571Mhz 5-5-5-15 and vdimm to 2.10v I was already booting and memtest86+ v2.01 stable!

@585Mhz 5-5-5-15 2.10v

Quick jump to 585Mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.10v still was easily quad Super Pi 32M stable (hyperpi v0.99 gui wrapper) and single Super Pi 32M stable :)

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CPUZ Validation

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/355300.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...z_valid_tn.png

Quad Super Pi 32M

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_..._avtime_tn.png

Single Super Pi 32M

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...8s422ms_tn.png

Everest Ultimate Bandwidth

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...everest_tn.png

Memtest Windows stress test 4x 750MB

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...n_load_tnn.png

Code:

DFI LP LT X38-T2R 1/11 Bios Settings PC Health Status Adjust CPU Temp: +6 CPU Feature - Thermal Management Control: Disabled - PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled - Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled - CIE Function: Disabled - Execute Disable Bit: Disabled - Virtualization Technology: Disabled - Core Multi-Processing: Enabled Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2 Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled CPU Clock Ratio: 10x - Target CPU Clock: 3903 N/2 Ratio: Disabled CPU Clock: 390 Boot Up Clock: AUTO DRAM Speed: 266/800 - Target DRAM Speed: 1172 PCIE Clock: 100mhz PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled Voltage Settings CPU VID Control: 1.3000v CPU VID Special Add: AUTO DRAM Voltage Control: 2.10v SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51 NB Core Voltage: 1.517 CPU VTT Voltage: 1.175 Vcore Droop Control: Enabled Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong Host Slew Rate: Weak GTL REF Voltage Control: Enable x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 105 x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 97 x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 82 DRAM Timing - Enhance Data transmitting: FAST - Enhance Addressing: AUTO - T2 Dispatch: Disabled Clock Setting Fine Delay Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive - DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 420 - DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 560 - DIMM 1 Control fine delay: 630 - DIMM 2 Control fine delay: 490 - Ch 1 Command fine delay: 910 Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive - DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 420 - DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 560 - DIMM 3 Control fine delay: 630 - DIMM 4 Control fine delay: 490 - Ch 2 Command fine delay: 910 Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Aggressive Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto (where cpuz sees 1T or 2T SETTING) CAS Latency Time (tCL): 5 RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 5 RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5 Precharge Delay (tRAS): 15 All Precharge to Act: Auto REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 52 Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 6 Read delay phase adjust: Enter Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0) - Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Enabled - Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Enabled - Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Enabled - Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Enabled - Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Enabled Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0) - Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Enabled - Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto MCH ODT Latency: Auto Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 13 Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 11 ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): Auto Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): Auto Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): Auto Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): Auto Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): Auto Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): Auto ALL PRE to Refresh: Auto
05-02-2008, 09:25 AM
eva2000

Max CPUZ Validation
4GB Corsair PC3-9136C5DF @610Mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.23v

Using setFSB from 595Mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.23v in windows I slowly pushed the FSB and thus the memory clocks to 610Mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.23v for max validation :)

click image for full screenshot

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...z_valid_tn.png

Max Single Super Pi 32M
4GB Corsair PC3-9136C5DF @595Mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.23v

Straight boot from bios managed to push the 4GB Corsair PC3-9136C5DF to 595Mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.23v for single Super Pi 32M pass. Have yet to try quad super Pi or higher vdimm :)

click image for full screenshot

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...91ms_sg_tn.png

Code:

DFI LP LT X38-T2R 1/11 Bios Settings PC Health Status Adjust CPU Temp: +6 CPU Feature - Thermal Management Control: Disabled - PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled - Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled - CIE Function: Disabled - Execute Disable Bit: Disabled - Virtualization Technology: Disabled - Core Multi-Processing: Enabled Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2 Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled CPU Clock Ratio: 10x - Target CPU Clock: 3973 N/2 Ratio: Disabled CPU Clock: 397 Boot Up Clock: AUTO DRAM Speed: 266/800 - Target DRAM Speed: 1193 PCIE Clock: 100mhz PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled Voltage Settings CPU VID Control: 1.3375v CPU VID Special Add: AUTO DRAM Voltage Control: 2.23v SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51 NB Core Voltage: 1.555 CPU VTT Voltage: 1.175 Vcore Droop Control: Enabled Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong Host Slew Rate: Weak GTL REF Voltage Control: Enable x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 105 x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 97 x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 82 DRAM Timing - Enhance Data transmitting: FAST - Enhance Addressing: AUTO - T2 Dispatch: Disabled Clock Setting Fine Delay Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive - DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 420 - DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 560 - DIMM 1 Control fine delay: 560 - DIMM 2 Control fine delay: 420 - Ch 1 Command fine delay: 910 Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive - DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 420 - DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 560 - DIMM 3 Control fine delay: 560 - DIMM 4 Control fine delay: 420 - Ch 2 Command fine delay: 910 Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Aggressive Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto (where cpuz sees 1T or 2T SETTING) CAS Latency Time (tCL): 5 RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 5 RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5 Precharge Delay (tRAS): 15 All Precharge to Act: Auto REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 60 Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 6 Read delay phase adjust: Enter Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0) - Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Enabled - Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Enabled - Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Enabled - Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Enabled Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0) - Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Enabled - Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto - Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto MCH ODT Latency: Auto Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 14 Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 11 ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): Auto Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): Auto Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): Auto Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): Auto Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): Auto Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): Auto ALL PRE to Refresh: Auto
05-02-2008, 09:34 AM
Xtreme Addict

Sweet George! Nice stuff. Are you able to break 600 MHz barrier

I love your scrupulous tests!
05-02-2008, 09:35 AM
SeLecT

Nice test!

Can you bench with 600Mhz? :)
05-02-2008, 09:37 AM
EnJoY

Nice George. :) Did you test with other timings or voltages?

Powerchip IC's I assume?
05-02-2008, 10:00 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miravo

Sweet George! Nice stuff. Are you able to break 600 MHz barrier

I love your scrupulous tests!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeLecT

Nice test!

Can you bench with 600Mhz? :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnJoY

Nice George. :) Did you test with other timings or voltages?

Powerchip IC's I assume?

Thanks guys, literally only had the kit installed on board for a few hours so haven't done much testing as yet. Memtest86+ v2.01 so far to 595mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.10v with 1.517v NB is where the ceiling is, so need to tweak away at voltages and clock fine delay values to see if I can push 600mhz 5-5-5-15 :)

Haven't tested any other timings of voltages yet - still alot to test :)

Yup from Corsair forum's IC inquiry thread they're PSC - Powerchip ICs :D
05-02-2008, 10:59 AM
-n7-

Sweet.

Thanx for using HCI, & please keep doing so :D

Determines stability much better than anything else for RAM (& NB).
05-03-2008, 07:49 AM
eva2000

Updated 2nd post with 595Mhz 5-5-5-15 super Pi 32M :D
05-04-2008, 06:31 AM
makaka

i love those Corsair clock . My crappy Geil PC 6400 cap out @ 500-520 with 5-5-5-15 no matter what voltage (tried even 2.6-2.7v :D:D:D)
05-05-2008, 10:16 AM
REBEL900

Nice scores EVA :up:
05-05-2008, 08:06 PM
dinos22

lol nice RAM mate :p: :D

mine OC the same on Gigabyte X38-DQ6 :thumb:
05-06-2008, 12:35 AM
eva2000

Thanks guys :)
05-06-2008, 01:36 AM
The0men

Is there anything to gain beyond 2.25v??

I've not played with powerchips much, I was wondering if they react to voltage like D9,
(except the part that new d9 mostly die beyond 2.4v 24/7 use)
Or if there is only pain and no gain beyond the voltage you have used?

Thanks for the testing, anf thats a nice frequency for low voltage RAM.

EDIT: 4GBs! thats excellent, I guess theres little point adding more volts, did not realise it was a 4GB kit.
05-06-2008, 03:49 AM
saaya

from my experience powerchips dont scale well with high vdimm, unfortunately... if they would, then they could outperform micron chips!
powerchip chips are good for high cas5 and cas4 with low vdimm.
they do scale until higher vdimm than most other chips... but they dont scale much and stop scaling around 2.2v
Ask miravo, hes like a powerchip expert :D the best batches scale up until 2.3v, some only scale up to 2v iirc.
05-06-2008, 04:16 AM
eva2000

Honestly, haven't tried beyond 2.23v vdimm so not sure but from what I done so far you can see it doesn't scale much i.e. 585mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.1v then 595mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.23v, only 10mhz more so I'd say doesn't scale that well (not comparing to micron D9GMH/D9GKX).

Also remember it depends on what you're testing - you definitely need more vdimm for folks testing speeds with dual or quad super pi 32m instances compared to someone testing single super pi 1m and 2m passes or folks using quad core vs dual core cpus :)
05-06-2008, 10:02 AM
Spyrus

I cannot push mine 2x2GB Evo Past 580 with ease.
What have changed there besides tRFC that i see that is 60?
Any extra third timing?Or skews?
05-06-2008, 02:47 PM
dinos22

tRFC is the main timing for higher frequency
loosen it up and you will push past 580 :up:
05-07-2008, 03:10 AM
The0men

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

Honestly, haven't tried beyond 2.23v vdimm so not sure but from what I done so far you can see it doesn't scale much i.e. 585mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.1v then 595mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.23v, only 10mhz more so I'd say doesn't scale that well (not comparing to micron D9GMH/D9GKX).

Also remember it depends on what you're testing - you definitely need more vdimm for folks testing speeds with dual or quad super pi 32m instances compared to someone testing single super pi 1m and 2m passes or folks using quad core vs dual core cpus :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

from my experience powerchips dont scale well with high vdimm, unfortunately... if they would, then they could outperform micron chips!
powerchip chips are good for high cas5 and cas4 with low vdimm.
they do scale until higher vdimm than most other chips... but they dont scale much and stop scaling around 2.2v
Ask miravo, hes like a powerchip expert :D the best batches scale up until 2.3v, some only scale up to 2v iirc.

Thank your for answers.

Yer not much to gain after that 2.1v.

Pity there is nothing that scales like micron, but clocks so well on low clocks.

I guess you are right Saaya, they would sure beat micron if they continued you to scale to 2.4v or beyond.

But still they have their use, for a 4GB kit that you could run at 560, stable at such low voltage, would be cool and good for a quiet system with vista or something.
05-07-2008, 03:41 AM
saaya

yeah, thats what promos is really good at... at low vdimm its really really nice.
and you can get high densities with them too.
and its cheap... the only problems are, it doesnt work for high end memory, and they have a history of delivering bad quality chips that die after some time...

Here, i made this test a long time ago evaluating powerchip:

Red=micron
Green=elpida
http://www.abload.de/img/powerchipsj3.png

as you can see they are outstanding for low vdimm cas4.
but unfortunately they almost dont scale with vdimm at all..
05-08-2008, 01:14 AM
The0men

Very good for CAS 4 indeed.

I assume that because its so good at low voltage then yer, can have high densities
Plus some chipsets wont take 4GB or more up very high frequency anyway
making it ideal for systems needing loads of memory.
05-08-2008, 01:36 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

yeah, thats what promos is really good at... at low vdimm its really really nice.
and you can get high densities with them too.
and its cheap... the only problems are, it doesnt work for high end memory, and they have a history of delivering bad quality chips that die after some time...

Here, i made this test a long time ago evaluating powerchip:

Red=micron
Green=elpida
http://www.abload.de/img/powerchipsj3.png

as you can see they are outstanding for low vdimm cas4.
but unfortunately they almost dont scale with vdimm at all..

saya as for reliability
would you say powerchips last longer or a good set of d9gmh or d9gkx
or is it too early to tell?

nice set of stix eva2000
05-08-2008, 07:30 AM
Yellowbeard

Quote:

Originally Posted by The0men

I guess you are right Saaya, they would sure beat micron if they continued you to scale to 2.4v or beyond.

But still they have their use, for a 4GB kit that you could run at 560, stable at such low voltage, would be cool and good for a quiet system with vista or something.

They actually do walk all over any 128MB ICs that Micron has out.
05-11-2008, 03:03 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

saya as for reliability
would you say powerchips last longer or a good set of d9gmh or d9gkx
or is it too early to tell?

nice set of stix eva2000

thanks seem to oc'd the same as dinos' set as well - they're exact same batch AFAIK :)