AMD Triple-Core benchmarked

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11-23-2007, 08:42 AM
Fr3ak

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AMD Triple-Core benchmarked

I am sorry, the whole article is in German, but I thought it might be interesting to look at the graph attached.

Link to the pictures:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/?menu=...&show=original

Source:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/?article_id=622354
11-23-2007, 08:44 AM
Jamesrt2004

seems ok if they set it at a good price !!
11-23-2007, 08:49 AM
G.Foyle

Looks like it's closer to a quad than a dual.. If only the price is right, it can be a hit.
11-23-2007, 09:02 AM
Shaggy

Is the x3 its own chip design or is it an x4 with a disabled or just not there 4th core?
11-23-2007, 09:05 AM
metro.cl

oli you missed a E6850 in the graph

same question as above is it a really 3 core cpu?
11-23-2007, 09:05 AM
generics_user

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy

Is the x3 its own chip design or is it an x4 with a disabled or just not there 4th core?

i think that it's both, just like phenom X2 and athlon 64 single cores ;)
11-23-2007, 09:10 AM
saaya

makes sense, all software devs said they are finding it hard to split up the work to more than 3 main threads
11-23-2007, 09:10 AM
Piotrsama

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy

Is the x3 its own chip design or is it an x4 with a disabled or just not there 4th core?

Quote:

Originally Posted by metro.cl

same question as above is it a really 3 core cpu?

It's a quad core with one of them disabled.

Let's hope for a good price on these 3X.
11-23-2007, 09:14 AM
Fr3ak

Yes one core is disabled. A real triple core could be a little slower as it maybe has less L3 cache. I didnt do the testing and I have to admit that I am not really familiar with the exact X3 specs.
11-23-2007, 09:19 AM
G80

Dosent make sense. Do they profit somehow when they disable an existing core?, Why not just let it function as it normaly would?.
11-23-2007, 09:23 AM
GoThr3k

Quote:

Originally Posted by G80

Dosent make sense. Do they profit somehow when they disable an existing core?, Why not just let it function as it normaly would?.

It is a good concept to get better profits
not all chips have 4 working cores,if like 30% of the chips you make are a bit broken,that only 3 cores of them work properly,you would have to throw them away...
but if you want to save those chips,and want to make profit on those you just sell them as tricores and disable the 4th core completely
11-23-2007, 09:26 AM
fallwind

These are X4's with a faulty core. So instead of throwing the CPU away they disable the faulty core and sell it as an X3.
11-23-2007, 09:27 AM
Shintai

Quote:

Originally Posted by G80

Dosent make sense. Do they profit somehow when they disable an existing core?, Why not just let it function as it normaly would?.

Its broken..not working. And I bet they also got a specific real tricore.
11-23-2007, 09:30 AM
Unbornchild

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoqolatl

Looks like it's closer to a quad than a dual..

Ummm?:confused: My E6600 hits 2966.

EDIT: oops, ok: mine is OC'd to 3.333 Ghz. Sorry!
11-23-2007, 09:37 AM
G80

Sounds like it is put to good use then, since they cant re-use the silicon from previous cpu's AFAIK.
11-23-2007, 09:38 AM
NightCrawler™

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unbornchild

Ummm?:confused: My E6600 hits 2966.

EDIT: oops, ok: mine is OC'd to 3.333 Ghz. Sorry!

Cheater.... :p:
11-23-2007, 10:58 AM
Kunaak

before anyone starts to make claims about what this CPU really is...

how about some proof?

cause I get sick of people saying "its a quad core with 1 core disabled".
"its a broken quad core".

cause the simple fact is... you dont know.
show me a core picture shot, showing the actual architecture of the CPU or something like that.
if you cant, then all you got is rumours, hear say and guessing.

guessing isnt news.
11-23-2007, 11:08 AM
zakelwe

This is definitely a quad core that has nothing broken and they are using the AMD software to turn a core off and this is similar to hardware france's report from Lake Tahoe for instance

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/694-...enom-9600.html

No doubt this is from the same location and the same idea.

Regards

Andy
11-23-2007, 11:10 AM
KTE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunaak

before anyone starts to make claims about what this CPU really is...

how about some proof?

cause I get sick of people saying "its a quad core with 1 core disabled".
"its a broken quad core".

cause the simple fact is... you dont know.
show me a core picture shot, showing the actual architecture of the CPU or something like that.
if you cant, then all you got is rumours, hear say and guessing.

It's mentioned by AMD reps themselves:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2184275,00.asp
http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-T...ed-67862.shtml
http://www.digit-life.com/news.html?09/31/76
11-23-2007, 11:41 AM
WeStSiDePLaYa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunaak

before anyone starts to make claims about what this CPU really is...

how about some proof?

cause I get sick of people saying "its a quad core with 1 core disabled".
"its a broken quad core".

cause the simple fact is... you dont know.
show me a core picture shot, showing the actual architecture of the CPU or something like that.
if you cant, then all you got is rumours, hear say and guessing.

guessing isnt news.

How about it is the most logical step for maximizing financial efficiency? Not to mention they have done it before, by knocking down dual cores to single cores. It is just like speed binning to the next level.

Oh yeah, how about AMD saying so?:rolleyes:
11-23-2007, 11:50 AM
Kunaak

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeStSiDePLaYa

How about it is the most logical step for maximizing financial efficiency? Not to mention they have done it before, by knocking down dual cores to single cores. It is just like speed binning to the next level.

Oh yeah, how about AMD saying so?:rolleyes:

How about, you dont know that.
you never made a CPU have you?
have you designed one?

as for "AMD said so".
who pointed that out?

oh yeah, not you.
11-23-2007, 11:53 AM
Super strokey

Wanna see some pricing
11-23-2007, 12:07 PM
Duh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunaak

How about, you dont know that.
you never made a CPU have you?
have you designed one?

as for "AMD said so".
who pointed that out?

oh yeah, not you.

man why do you get this way in a petty subject like this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super strokey

Wanna see some pricing

same here :).. just curious as I have not $ :P
11-23-2007, 12:08 PM
nemrod

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunaak

How about, you dont know that.
you never made a CPU have you?
have you designed one?

as for "AMD said so".
who pointed that out?

oh yeah, not you.

And you expect what? That AMD made a big caution statement on there website?
" Caution, phenom X3 are broken phenom X4 ?"

Do you understand what is on this kind of website?

A sample:

Quote:

The new, all-AMD “SPIDER” platform.

AMD’s enthusiast platform, code-named “SPIDER,” brings together an all-AMD processor, graphics card, and chipset for the most complete computing platform ever. Combining these best-in-class components gives you the ultimate computing experience with amazing scalability and exceptional efficiency.
Incredible Computing

* True quad-core performance for an incredibly powerful multitasking experience
* Superb graphics with awesome performance and stunning effects for an intensely visual experience
* Amazing performance tuning with AMD OverDrive™ technology*
* Phenomenal full resolution playback for HD-DVD and Blu-ray content

Amazing Scalability

* Extraordinary platform flexibility so you can buy for today and build towards tomorrow
* Scalable graphics you crave on your budget—up to four cards all running in
ATI CrossFireX™ mode, with support for up to eight monitors
* True PCI Express® 2.0 support allows you to take full advantage of the next generation of high-speed components

Striking Efficiency

* Incredible performance-per-dollar, per watt across the entire platform
* Cooler and quieter operation with enhanced power optimization technology including Cool‘n’Quiet™ 2.0 technology and ATI Radeon™ HD graphics accelerators
* Constant monitoring of system workload and adjustment of power consumption and performance to meet user demands

The AMD “SPIDER” platform. Never before have all of the components of a platform been designed to work together so well, to push each other so far, and to enable a PC experience so complete.

Does it look to the truth?

You have contact with AMD executive, to say that:

Quote:

AMD Confirms Addition of Three-Core Phenom Chips
By Mark Hachman
AMD Microprocessor Roadmap, Sept. 2007

SAN FRANCISCO—Advanced Micro Devices is adding a triple-core Phenom processor to its roadmap, AMD executives said Monday, selling processors that it would otherwise throw onto the scrap heap.

Is bs?
You believe that was never discuss nowhere before september 2007 because this is a wonderful secret weapon, ?
11-23-2007, 12:16 PM
[XC] gomeler

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunaak

How about, you dont know that.
you never made a CPU have you?
have you designed one?

as for "AMD said so".
who pointed that out?

oh yeah, not you.

How about this is old news(the concept) with new benchies? Nothing really impressive as there is barely any room in the lineup between the duals and the quads, might as well nix the duals unless there are tons of bum Phenoms with only 2 cores operating at production frequencies.

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