AMD K10 SuperPi Reults

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08-30-2007, 06:26 AM
annaconda

AMD K10 SuperPi Reults

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If that is the case then INTEL will kill AMD by 2008. AMD sucks :mad:
08-30-2007, 06:29 AM
dinos22

saw that
*pukes

if that is the case it will be one of the biggest reason why i won't jump all over the CPUs like a rash

yack
08-30-2007, 06:35 AM
eva2000

no mention of memory config/timings used etc ???
08-30-2007, 06:45 AM
BeardyMan

AMD has never been a SUPERPI monster.
It wil be a 3d monster again as we were used to..
besides that it's 3secs faster at 200mhz less compared to K8
08-30-2007, 06:52 AM
dinos22

horseshyte man

K8 was absolutely demolishing Intels(netburst) until Ln2 was taken into consideration or until people starting seriously benching centrino (but not many guys did that really cept for a few loyal intel guys and a couple of hard core guys)
08-30-2007, 06:54 AM
BeardyMan

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Originally Posted by dinos22

horseshyte man

K8 was absolutely demolishing Intels(netburst) until Ln2 was taken into consideration or until people starting seriously benching centrino (but not many guys did that really cept for a few loyal intel guys and a couple of hard core guys)

LOL
You seme to forget that amd was pushing to 21.00secs where intel was at already sub 18secs...:ROTF:
670 anyone?
08-30-2007, 07:04 AM
Sparky

I wouldn't rate how good a CPU is on how it does on superpi. Oooo goody, intel's CPUs can calculate pi faster, whoop-de-do, who gives a crap. I'm interested in the overall total performance. And I'm waiting until release to believe too much about it, a few benchmarks here and there with a lack of total system specs isn't very helpful to me.

Now I guess if calculating pi to the nth digit is your thing then whatever, do what you want.
08-30-2007, 07:09 AM
Mav451

B/c Netburst did well at SuperPI is the reason i discount SuperPI entirely.

It's nice as an initial check on system stability, but that's about it.
08-30-2007, 07:09 AM
T2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

I wouldn't rate how good a CPU is on how it does on superpi. Oooo goody, intel's CPUs can calculate pi faster, whoop-de-do, who gives a crap. I'm interested in the overall total performance. And I'm waiting until release to believe too much about it, a few benchmarks here and there with a lack of total system specs isn't very helpful to me.

Now I guess if calculating pi to the nth digit is your thing then whatever, do what you want.

While I agree superpi doesn't mean jacksh*t, I must say it's not the only things apparently Barcelona suck in - look at Cinebench, look at almost any leaked numbers: they all worse clock-for-clock than current Intel numbers, let alone Penryn or after that.

It sure looks dark for AMD. :(
08-30-2007, 07:13 AM
Oc-Ghost

what does a xeon@2Ghz with 1066/1333bus have for results?
08-30-2007, 07:13 AM
BeardyMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by T2k

While I agree superpi doesn't mean jacksh*t, I must say it's not the only things apparently Barcelona suck in - look at Cinebench, look at almost any leaked numbers: they all worse clock-for-clock than current Intel numbers, let alone Penryn or after that.

It sure looks dark for AMD. :(

If the 30K 06 is correct, then the future looks very very dark for Intel cause no penryn or nehalem will beat that LOL
08-30-2007, 07:16 AM
T2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardyMan

If the 30K 06 is correct, then the future looks very very dark for Intel cause no penryn or nehalem will beat that LOL

3dmark06 is anything but a CPU test.
08-30-2007, 07:22 AM
Gothic

EVEN the 30k '06 being true, Barcelona/Agena X4 @ 2GHz performing equal to Barton @ 2.5GHz on 1M PI just can't be good...

BUT we have to remeber that we can't confirm if that is true...

PS.: Is it just me, or the score really came from coolaler's site?
08-30-2007, 07:25 AM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by T2k

While I agree superpi doesn't mean jacksh*t, I must say it's not the only things apparently Barcelona suck in - look at Cinebench, look at almost any leaked numbers: they all worse clock-for-clock than current Intel numbers, let alone Penryn or after that.

It sure looks dark for AMD. :(

But that's why I'm waiting for release. All I'm seeing are some numbers here and there from different places, some of them aren't adding up, and we all know that some of the initial batches of K10 weren't good, so how many of these numbers are from the not-so-great chips? Makes me wonder. Once the thing is released then we'll know for certain, until then it is just a lot of speculation and I'm sick of it. Sept 10th get here already darnit!

*EDIT* check this here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=138

So it looks maybe these scores are done on the "broken" chips. There is hope yet. Sept 10th we'll know (or soon after).
08-30-2007, 07:26 AM
BeardyMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by T2k

3dmark06 is anything but a CPU test.

If you get 11K in the cpu test, you have a monstrous cpu, period.
08-30-2007, 07:27 AM
BeardyMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

But that's why I'm waiting for release. All I'm seeing are some numbers here and there from different places, some of them aren't adding up, and we all know that some of the initial batches of K10 weren't good, so how many of these numbers are from the not-so-great chips? Makes me wonder. Once the thing is released then we'll know for certain, until then it is just a lot of speculation and I'm sick of it. Sept 10th get here already darnit!

GOD DAMMIT you ****:D :rofl:
i was trying to slam my screen to get that bug :ROTF:
08-30-2007, 07:28 AM
roadie

What part of the CPU does SuperPi use? It was my impression that Barcelona/Phenom will be have improved FPU capabilities compared to K8 along with a general improvement in per clock ability.
08-30-2007, 07:32 AM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardyMan

GOD DAMMIT you ****:D :rofl:
i was trying to slam my screen to get that bug :ROTF:

lol somebody fell for it already, I just stuck it there a couple minutes ago :p: :lol2:

I have to admit tho I almost smacked my screen not long after putting it there hehe
08-30-2007, 07:43 AM
informal

This SPi1m result is bogus.K10 @2Ghz performs better than that..EVT B0s or B1s that are bugged.
08-30-2007, 07:50 AM
Grafton

stupid bug... i am stealing it. i think the call should wait on wiehter or not amd will regain its crown
08-30-2007, 08:27 AM
uOpt

Somebody please post a 2.0 GHz K8 number, preferably AM2. It's so long ago I ran anything at 2.0 GHz I don't have anything anymore :)
08-30-2007, 08:31 AM
uOpt

BTW, it is likely/possible that this SuperPi score is screwed by the OS allocating memory in the NUMA memory bank in the other processor and/or switching processors during this run.
08-30-2007, 08:35 AM
Trunks

Quote:

Originally Posted by uOpt

Somebody please post a 2.0 GHz K8 number, preferably AM2. It's so long ago I ran anything at 2.0 GHz I don't have anything anymore :)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=100
08-30-2007, 08:39 AM
AliG

Quote:

Originally Posted by uOpt

Somebody please post a 2.0 GHz K8 number, preferably AM2. It's so long ago I ran anything at 2.0 GHz I don't have anything anymore :)

I get 45s on my 2ghz am2 cpu, but my timings are much more relaxed on the mem since I was having stability problems a little while ago
08-30-2007, 08:42 AM
T2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardyMan

If you get 11K in the cpu test, you have a monstrous cpu, period.

Or you just have a CPU which is well-tuned for those types of things - let's not forget 3dmark06's CPU tests are not a conclusive reality test, rather some hyped-up wannabe gaming tests built on Dlite and AGEIA's libraries, running in separate threads, that's all.

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