Asus P5KC (hybrid DDR2/3 mboard) + CORSAIR 4GB 1600MHz DDR3 + 2GB PC10K DDR2 test

hey guys

i got some DDR3 ram for testing and thought i'd pair it up with an entry level asus P5KC board for initial tests

i didn't see too many people test this board and certainly no 4GB kits heheheh w00t they are sexy beasts :D



TEST SETUP

• Asus P5KC Motherboard >> updated to latest 0701 bios
• 4GB kit Corsair 1600MHz 7-7-7-20 DDR3 RAM
• 2GB kit Corsair 1250MHz 5-5-5-18 DDR2 RAM
• Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 L626Bxxx CPU
• Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 L727Axxx CPU
• PCI nvidia MX400 GFX card
• Thermaltake Big Typhoon + 100CFM Panaflo fan
• 60GB IDE MAxtor HDD
• 620W Corsair HX620 PSU
• Windows 2003 Server 32-bit

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CRAZY HOT area >>> i burnt my finger on this son of a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

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VDIMM MEASUREMENT POINT

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Here is the RAM

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did some tests with Asus P5KC

board had a lot of quirks that's for sure but i managed to squeeze a bit out of it anyways :)

for some reason the board was booting at 1T command rate lol and there is no option in bios to change it

btw vdimm measured with multimetre 1.9v in bios = 1.88v load >>> 2v in bios 1.98v idle load in windows
ram didn't seem to respond to higher voltage but i think this is the board limitation and not ram... :) as i've seen it go higher on blitz

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no tweaks besides largesyscache >> on std server 2003install

:banana::banana::banana::banana: i didn't even notice the last shot was on performance level 9 :shocked: TIME is still pretty good lol

anyways that's as far as i got atm :)


RAM & board notes:
with a bit of tweaking of subtimings and actually run some Spi tweaks i would say around 900 7-6-5-20 would be about the same as 600 4-4-4-x

2GB kits should do that with eyes closed :D but 4GB kit may be harder

i must say testing all these boards leads me to believe that DDR3 boards leave a lot to be desired and need work on bioses....blitz is the best at the moment though >> shame i couldn't have mine for longer than an hour and i certainly wouldn't go buying this board with the pricepoint it will be at EEEEEEK


in terms of Asus P5KC i don't know about u fellas but i took some photos of the phase coil that burnt my finger idling....sitting next to the 4-pin connector

i would definitely not buy this board unless i have a :banana::banana::banana::banana: sample

and also my P5KC droops bad

I tested a quad core first and jacked it up to 3.6GHz with 1.42v idle but after about 10 seconds the vcore just starts dropping bad and reboots the machine. I thought it may be too much load from the quad CPU and stuck my E6700 CPU in there >>>>>>>>> 1.36 in bios, 1.336 idle windows and under prime it keeps dropping to 1.31/1.29/1.27/1.26/1.25/1.24 i gave it a couple of strokes where pencil mod is supposed to be NOTHING

so it seems that it ain't the quad core load afterall but just :banana::banana::banana::banana: voltage regulation on the board

i must say after testing that other value board and finding out how impressive it was i am pretty disappointed in this one particularly with how badly hot that area was and droop issues even with a quick pencil mod which made no difference. I was expecting the bios to be a bit more problematic because it is a hybrid board but geez i couldn't even post my PC10000 sticks past 550 WTF :wired: and i am really surprised i even managed what i did with DDR3 >>>>>>I didn't check but i think the maxing out of DDR2 might have had something to do with bios setting 1T command rate at default........some more investigating is necessary

lol i really should get memset 3.3 beta2 for command rate as well :)

did some testing on the weekend with a Gigabyte DDR3 DQ6 board and also at the end of the day with Asus Blitz DDR3 board

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did a bit of testing on the weekend >>> well we were benching some of our CPUs a little

i had A LOT of problems with the Gigabyte board. It needs a fair bit of work to clock DDR3 ram properly. I could not even post at stock timings and clocks......and what's worse i could not post with up to 2.1v CAS9 or 10 can't remember now at stock MHz ROFL

i'm sure they will fix that though. I spent most of the day battling a crappy dice tube and windows installs and then the board lol so i just did some quick max clocks on CPU and some 1Ms


times are bad as it would not allow me to reduce performance level below 9 and this is as fast as i could really get the RAM regardless of timings or volts but i don't bench 4.8GHz every day so it wasn't a waste afterall :D


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Josh told me he had a blitz somewhere that takes DDR3 (almost at the end of the day zOMG and asus was definitely much better in RAM clocking....i was posting at around 950MHz CAS8 :shocked: :D but FARKING HELL THE CPUz 1.40.8 does not take validations with F7 shortcut :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

so nothing to post here guys


for some reason asus could not bench past 4.6GHz :mad: >> something strange there >> no luck at all ROFL.....i had two boards one that clocked RAM poorly and got half decent clocks on CPU and one that clocked RAM MUCH better but :banana::banana::banana::banana: clocks on CPU hahahahha :rofl:

blitz was superfast in 32M compared to gigabyte but i didn't have time nor CPU clocks to do some nice numbers but it looked promising >>> :D


one thing is for sure i really need a blitz or P5K3 (with volt mods) to max the RAM and i am waiting for a really nice DICE tube i ordered from Duniek so when all this comes together it will kick arse :D


on thing i do have to say is that DDR3 really gives you so many more options at higher FSB and i think benching with high speeds and FSB is a must with DDR3 >>>> just need to beat up someone for a nice board like the blitz or P5k3 and maybe another DDR3 2GB kit to compare and max out clocks and timings for some serious superpi damage :D

i have a great CPU for SuperPI that's for sure......even with terrible base temps on the dice tube -50C i was still able to pass 5GHz barrier :D



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i think that DDR3 boards have a little while to go before some solid bios files come along but Asus Blitz so far was most complete :)

reserve...

very nice dinos22 :D

take it easy with P5KC :D

hahaha we are best friends i tell ya :D

too much Wild Turkey for me last night

i just had a look at the screenshots and noticed PL is at 10 in most runs ROFL heheheheh

some more tweaking coming soon me thinks :D

dinos.. enable static read control ;)

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dinos.. enable static read control ;)

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yeah that's what performance level related to right :)

hi :)
what's max vdimm for ddr2 and ddr3?

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yeah that's what performance level related to right :)

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yup

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hi :)
what's max vdimm for ddr2 and ddr3?

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DDR3 is 2.2v
DDR2 i have to double check but i think it was 2.5v or 2.55v

nice tests dinos :up:

do the vdroop mod what I posted in my thread, works fine, try it :)

what ic's are on these corsair's? for me the 1333DHX don't goes in P5KC same bios..

ok now not sure which one to believe....probably memset i guess lol

i don't think those runs were 1T that have that listed in the CPUz window afterall

here is why

i downloaded a beta2 version of memset and found it was actually showing 2T for command rate .... i think CPUz one is just a software glitch as it only shows command rate sometimes....it's weird basically lol

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with that out of the way i did some more SuperPi testing

listed runs at 3.6GHz SLOWEST TO FASTEST

i had largesys cache on

the rest of the changes are RAM and FSB MHz differences and RAM timings

at the end i tried maxmem which made no differece (600 value)

so i still have some tweaks to do like wazza and others....in terms of tweaking i also have 1T to do and performance level = 7 with better motherboard

823MHz runs should be as efficient as 600 4-4-4-x DDR2 when tweaked properly and with 1T and PL=7 :) at 500MHz + FSB

5:8 RAM divider did not let me boot at Transaction booster = 1 regardless of FSB
2:3 divider did (hence that makes these runs a tad faster :))


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PAY ATTENTION TO THESE TWO SHOTS WHICH I AM RELISTING

one was done with lower FSB and tighter timings (PL=6 EEK) and higher MHz
than the other

HIGH FSB RUN WAS STILL A LOT QUICKER :)



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Good review there are some interesting results :up: That is a very nice cpu you have there, with a good cpu & ram clokcing ddr3 board it'd be a bench monster :)

i've gotten rid of the mobo as it was pretty crap particularly with the quad with over 0.2v droop under load :shocked: even after pencil mods lol

my next test will be with X38 chipset DDR3 version :)