The Road to 3.5GHz on air

Update(June 16):
Took out heatsink on both my GPU and my CPU, cleaned everything with 70% isopropyl and applied new thermal paste.
Lowered my temps about 2c on my CPU idle and 4c on my GPU idle.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c3...ermalpaste.jpg


Update(June 12):
Finally broke the 3.1GHz line while running at ~29c with stock volts :]
can't wait for my DFI Expert DR to come in! :]
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c31/kakor/3100MHz.jpg

UPDATE(June 11):
I won a DFI Expert SLI-DR for $56 + shipping.

I have seen this done only once before (but it was water cooled), so I wanted to give it a shot.

I have an AMD 3800+ X2 Toledo Core with E6 stepping.
1Gig DDR400 (512 PQI 2.5-3-3-7 | 512 Geil 2.5-3-3-8)
Asus A8V-XE mobo

Current highest reached: 3075MHz
Current highest stable (superpi and wprime): 3065MHz

Getting to 3.0GHz from 2Ghz was a breeze, the only annoying thing is that the Asus A8V-XE has an overclock stop after 2.7GHz, so I have to do the rest in ClockGen.
After I get to about 3059 or 3065 it won't go up anymore even though clockgen says it should.:down: Sometimes it might crawl up to the next setting but it would go back down or only do it while the CPU is in usage. This makes no sense as I do not have any "Cool'n'Quite" things installed and all those options are disabled in my BIOS.

Anyways here are some screenshots.

Best SuperPi (Stock is ~45s)
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c31/kakor/29828-1.jpg

PinMod to 1.6v
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c31/kakor/1.jpg


Any help would be awesome!


My CPU HS is
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835200023


Thanks!
Also check out my HWBot (it should be in my sig).

OK so after much trial and error I found out that my mobo has a max FSB of ONLY 306.. WTF?

So after I return from my trip I will be ordering a new K8N from ASUS (nForce chipset).
At that point I will shoot for 3.4 and hope it doesn't get too hot with the vmod at 1.6v.

If it does I will then get a new HS and probably new ram.

Get a DFI nF4 Ultra-D

Or better yet, DFI venus or cfx3200, they are all pretty effing cheap now. <$100

The road to 3.5 Ghz should have a pitstop with about 8-25 hours of prime at 3 Ghz first.. how are you going for more when all it's stable to do now is superpi? I'm stable for over 20 minutes of 4 Ghz of superpi on my e6400, but it isn't useful for anything else.

I second the DFI Ultra-D as a new board.

Have you thought about Read Preamble and Max Async Latency?

Try this, set RP to 7 and MAL to 9. Usually those are blocking high HTT so you need to loosen them.

Anyway where are you pulling this 3.5GHz number from? Certainly not this dimension, lol.

I've just ordered a X2 4000+ Because I can't get my X2 3800+ @ 2.7GHz Stable.
I thought a better cooler would help, I received my Zalman CNPS9500 and 2,66GHz stable is all I still get. About the same as with the AMD stock cooler.
But the temps are much better compared with the stock cooler. 45 degree C. under load, and 38 idle. That's pretty nice compared with up to 70 degree with AMD's stock cooler.

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Originally Posted by biohead

Have you thought about Read Preamble and Max Async Latency?

Try this, set RP to 7 and MAL to 9. Usually those are blocking high HTT so you need to loosen them.

Anyway where are you pulling this 3.5GHz number from? Certainly not this dimension, lol.

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check the benchmark world records and HWBot.org
it's been done before, and I just wanted to get 1st/2nd at HWbot. I was at 5th but im not longer on the top list as more people put their entries in.

I'll try those when I get home..

can't find an ultra d

closest thing on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813136003R

I've got a DFI NF4SLI-DR Im thinking of letting go of.... I love it but moved to AM2 to use the flood of cheap DDR2. Figured Ill need to go Vista 64bit and >2GB ram to make Crysis happy.

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Originally Posted by squidmaster

can't find an ultra d

closest thing on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813136003R

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afaik infinity doesnt have the nice caps
I suggest getting a used one ultrad/expert/venus/cfx3200 instead. Thare aught to be plenty @ [T]ard Forums

Yeah, I don't think you'll get 3.5 either. Biohead has one of the best chips I've seen (3.1 at 1.4v on air I think) and he can only get 3.3GHz on phase. He might be able to squeak a 3.5GHz SS on air

I had a worse 165 (3.1@1.525) and I got a 3.4GHz SS on water. But you won't be able to run any benchmarks there.

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[T]ard Forums

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:p:
QFT, I hate to say it, but its true

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Originally Posted by KoHaN69

afaik infinity doesnt have the nice caps
I suggest getting a used one ultrad/expert/venus/cfx3200 instead. Thare aught to be plenty @ [T]ard Forums

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lmfao I stopped posting there like 2 minutes after I joined a few months ago.

but I'll look on craigs list or something.
I think that newegg had the venus or cfx3200.

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Originally Posted by KoHaN69

Or better yet, DFI venus or cfx3200, they are all pretty effing cheap now. <$100

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But where to buy?!?!?!

Cause I'm looking to replace my piece of crap ABIT board (severe understatement... overclocks like crap.)

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Originally Posted by ColonelCain

But where to buy?!?!?!

Cause I'm looking to replace my piece of crap ABIT board (severe understatement... overclocks like crap.)

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yeah I don't know either.
I checked craigs list, but nothing
some one said check [T]ard Forums

so ima check them later

Ok so I have it narrowed down to a DFI Ultra-D or DFI Venus.

Anyone else's opinions would be fantastic :]

http://cgi.ebay.com/DFI-Lanparty-UT-...QQcmdZViewItem

:)

3500 aint happening on air unless you have aircon hanging over your rig and you have a B7 IMC :D

No harm in pushing an OC tho, so keep going!

On the DFI board, HT voltage to 1.4V helped me a lot

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Originally Posted by REBEL900

http://cgi.ebay.com/DFI-Lanparty-UT-...QQcmdZViewItem

:)

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can I say I love you?
I hope it's still for sale when I get back though.



Anyways
I am about 90% sure I can make 3.4GHz on air, and then about 60% sure I can make 3.5GHz.
I also have a pin mod for 1.55v which goes to 1.6 usually.
so
with 1.6v, some decent ram and the ultra-d board I should be able to make it, when I get home from vacation I will have some nice air cooling going on.

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Originally Posted by squidmaster

Anyways
I am about 90% sure I can make 3.4GHz on air, and then about 60% sure I can make 3.5GHz.

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Maybe with your window open on a -10C night. You are already at ~1.45v for 3.04GHz.. 1.55 will bring you to about 3.14, 1.6v to 3.19 at best. I'll eat my shoe if you get to 3.5 semi-stable :p

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Originally Posted by Repoman

Maybe with your window open on a -10C night. You are already at ~1.45v for 3.04GHz.. 1.55 will bring you to about 3.14, 1.6v to 3.19 at best. I'll eat my shoe if you get to 3.5 semi-stable :p

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really? is it leather?
lol
sorry
hmm.
im not sure
i mean
i was running 3.04 at 1.45 stable (burn in for 8 hours and super pi and wprime and CS:S for like 9023049238 hours and halo and a ton of other things) I only turned it off once in like 2 days.

D@mnit........I thought this thread actually had something to do with 3.5Ghz.
That'll teach me.

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Originally Posted by DrJay

D@mnit........I thought this thread actually had something to do with 3.5Ghz.
That'll teach me.

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It does.
Me getting to 3.5Ghz on air.

took me a while but I finally broke the 30s mark on superpi 1m with my current crappy board.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c31/kakor/29938.jpg