X2 3800 or Opteron 165?
which would be better performance wise and oveclocking
retail version...X2 3800 @ the egg = 135.00 free shipping
retail version...the opteron 165 @ the egg = 155.00 free shipping
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X2 3800 or Opteron 165?
which would be better performance wise and oveclocking
retail version...X2 3800 @ the egg = 135.00 free shipping
retail version...the opteron 165 @ the egg = 155.00 free shipping
Opty has more potential for OCing, and seems to get higher clocks more consistently
Opty
Opty
more Oc
more cache L2
Opty
Grab the Opteron for the above reasons. Additionally if you're going to use the stock cooler, the Opteron comes with a chunkier heatpipe cooler :)
Mul
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opty for better overclocking + 1mb cache + best stock cooler
Definitive opteron :) Have run a 3800+ (look at signature), but no more "seconds" ;)
should spend the extra 40 bucks and get the opty 170 because it has a multi of 10x instead of the 9x of the opty 165?
NO
specially if u have a good overclocker mobo like the dfi nf4
Opty 165 is a great chip, as long as you get a good stepping. CCBBE is usually really good. I heard that newegg was giving out good steppings lately. I have an opty 165 CCBBE 0617FPMW that I hit 3GHz with but wasn't fully stable - it wasn't crashing or anything but would fail orthos within 30 seconds.
I need better cooling I think (my CNPS9500 just didn't cut it) and a little more tweaking. It sits happily at 2.8GHz with stock voltage though :)
ok sweet thanks guys....
i just ordered an opty 165 from the egg, i wanted to get it before it went out of stock, plus it had free shipping, hopefully ill get one with good stepping.
just curious.. am i going to notice a huge difference in performance from a 754pin athlon 64 3400+ cpu that i have now? i hope i am.. im excited for dual core
i will report back on the stepping.
now its time to look for a good mobo for the opty 165...
hopefully they all wont sellout at the egg, there getting low on their stock.
lol, yes you probably will see a large difference from a 3400+ to a dual core opty.
what is the best choice for mobos?
since this will be my first time using the opteron 165, or a 939 dual core for that matter, ill be behind the ball on "know" how for setting it up and testing it. im upgrading from a 754 pin.
A8N32-SLI
i was looking at this mobo, and i know most people have alot of pros and cons for this board. but from what ive read it seems like a good board with alot of choices.
DFI ultra-d and nothing else
I like the DFI CFX3200 the best, then the SLI-DR Expert. The Asus A8n32-SLI had the highest max fsb of these 3 boards, but it also ran constantly 5 to 8 degrees hotter (celcius). The Asus also seemed very picky and neither of the DFI boards were too picky with the exception of maybe one or two settings. I had to constantly be manually changing the max async latency depending on what fsb I wanted, so you will spend alot of time figuring out what timing to set it at for which range of fsb you are trying to get to. Also you will probably have a big bios problem and not be able to upgrade the bios at all. This is a problem ASUS knows about, about half the boards are not recognized as an ASUS bios so the ASUS update utility wont let you upgrade the bios, I also had a problem using WinFlash to try and upgrade it. My personal opinion is to stay away from the ASUS, it was one of the worst boards I ever worked with. I have built systems on and worked with: a BioStar TForce 6100 (AM2), Gigabyte GA-M61PM-S2 (AM2), DFI SLI-DR Expert, DFI CFX3200, MSI K8N Diamond Plus, two of an ASUS board I cant remember the name of, and two ASUS A8N32-SLI boards, so I am not a n00b to motherboards and dont just hate ASUS for some reason.
As SaFrOuT said though, the DFI Ultra-D is supposed to be a REALLY good board too, although I have not personally worked on one. The Ultra-D is also probably the cheapest out of any of his or my suggestions.
well i went with an asus a8n32-sli board, the egg had a pretty lacking selection on other boards so i jsut went with it.
i feel confident in myself that i can get it working, idont want to overclokc a huge amount, jsut a resonable amount. if not ill just rma it and search for the dfi board becuase i cant find it anywhere.
i have a new bois for it which is 1403, saw it on the asus forum. when i get it well see if it loads.
x2 3800+ for $99 at tigerdirect
The CFX3200 in 939 socket is no longer made, you have to buy it new or used from some place like ebay. I think newegg still has the Ultra-D and SLI-DR and DR Expert though.
No, opty 165 is fine because with either processor you will still need to use a memory divider 3/4 or 5/6 to achieve a 2.8ghz-2.9ghz overclock. Need a good cooler and ram too...Quote:
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if it's s939 it is really cheap :eek:Quote:
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can't find one in germany for less than 110€...trying to find a good one since a while but no success until now.
ok so here was i got so far from the egg.
ill be putting it in this weekend when i get the video card, should be here thursday.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/4...565a9d9a_b.jpg
looks like it was shipped with the 1108 bios chip.
ASUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why not the dfi my friend
SaFrOuT we got almost similar system, except I have OCZ 2GB and ASUS X1900XT.
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i took off the heatpip sinks from the mobo, what a pain in the as, they put plastics caps filled with silicon to prevent u from unclipping the sping clips, to forever.
there is thermal compound but its in like a pad format, so i took it all off and lightly sanded down the back of the sinks and now im gonna appl some as5.
ill post pic tomorrow its bed time