OPB's perspective about Asus P5W DH RAM issue

Well, debate, debate,
some said intel bad-axe is better, some said it's whacked regarding the 1333 strap
so what's going on?
Now, I hope I can get myself out of confusion though,
Today, I am gonna take some time to try it myself, see how is that difference between thes two boards.
we'll see.;)

Guess what, I just found a pretty decent cooler here --->Zalman CNPA9500LED,but it's kinda pricy though
and it doesn't support AM2..,however, if you have AM2version of this cooler;
just simply use this cooler on the AM2. because it's all copper ;)

Let's see

Testbed:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 S5
mobo: Asus p5w DH DX; BIOS 0088(Don't ask me at this D); completely no mod
vga: BFG pci mx4000
ram: Team Group DDRII 667, 3-4-4-8 2x1g ; Micron D9GMH
OS: windows 2003 SP1 no tweak;
I heard about there is a problem regarding raid 0 on Conroe stepping 5?
but seems like I use wd 150gb x2 AHFD HD Raid0 no problem at this moment.


I think everyone all know what is P5w DH DX, so I won't waste time to show you guys that,
let's see the real world;)

http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/asusp5w/b01.jpg

http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/asusp5w/b02.jpg

http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/asusp5w/b03.jpg

http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/asusp5w/b04.jpg

http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/asusp5w/b05.jpg

http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/...ddr950pi1m.jpg

http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/...ddr950pi2m.jpg

http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/...ddr950pi8m.jpg

32m first run:

http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/...dr950pi32m.jpg

those look like D9DQT or something similar :slobber:

i am quite curious to see what is really happening as well. no oscilliscope to stick into the memory slot to measure the frequency with? :D

very nice my friend :D , great pic!!!! love your camera :up:

Intel VS Asus, who is the winner??!!!

btw this is my best air run @ 304
http://www.iamxtreme.net/cpu/e66/100_4344.JPG

but!!!!! 4core is not runing good at 304....

So far, so good Kevin :)

thanks, if no you guys push me, I could not be that serious:p:

Mark, that's really D9DQT but not in my bench, that just wanna make Denny love my pics:D

damn, denny, my DC is like the old one though...skill, skill..:D

Mike, I really appreciate your point out ...very good point:toast:

the problem is RAID 5... supposedly.

but the problem is how many ppl will us RAID 5 ?:(

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

Mark, that's really D9DQT but not in my bench, that just wanna make Denny love my pics:D

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:lol2:

i've been crazy busy lately, but this is one thing that i do want to know the answer to. good luck Kevin, the answer lies in your hands :eek: :D

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

but the problem is how many ppl will us RAID 5 ?:(

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The government, and people who use servers, aka 97% of the user base.

RAID 5 is a nice way to get speed + size + safety on a HT PC and I believe the P5W DH is built as a home media mobo.

Maybe RAID 5 is what Intel fixed in the B-2 stepping?

@.@ intel faster than asus...

in my test, asus faster than intel in pi_32m, about 15~20sec.

opb, have you enabled Hyperpath3 ?

opb vs. guess

is it only me ?


2 different cpus , two different rams , 2 different timings , 2 different fsbs

different OS ?

guys.... this is the way 12 year old kids compare size :-)


waiting for ops next runs on the bad axe ....

nice pictures b.t.w.

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Originally Posted by VictorWang

@.@ intel faster than asus...

in my test, asus faster than intel in pi_32m, about 15~20sec.

opb, have you enabled Hyperpath3 ?

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Yes, I enable that

what you guys need to do is look at what chipset registers are being set. I already know that to get over 400fsb the CPU has to be strapped at 1333 so you really only need to look at the memory strap to be sure what Asus are doing.

XBX already sets 1333 for both CPU and mem.

Remember 1333 1:1 = 667, 1066 1:1 = 533.


make sure you test both settings with the same ram, same CPU in both boards for an apples to apples comparison.

but what I don't understand is why you set 1333cpu and ram 533 under intel bad axe, CPUZ and everything shows 1:1? how are you going to tell if thatis 1066:533 or 1333:533?;)

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

but what I don't understand is why you set 1333cpu and ram 533 under intel bad axe, CPUZ and everything shows 1:1? how are you going to tell if thatis 1066:533 or 1333:533?;)

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Kevin

You need to look at register tables, don't trust any software in XP as who knows if its reading the register tables correct.

The point of all this 5h1te is to sort out what straps are being set..i already know as being an Intel freak since the 845 days i know how their chipsets work and how they have carried over designs from one chipset family to another.

I can't wait for RD600 boards to hit and the 590 boards so we can put this crap to bed...i told the world how it works already!!!

But RD600 is delayed right? :(
I want a good NV chipset now for Intel :)

Sure , got it;)

same here, hope RD600 here soon.

THanks for the hint mentor;)

Kev

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Originally Posted by Tony

Kevin

You need to look at register tables, don't trust any software in XP as who knows if its reading the register tables correct.

The point of all this 5h1te is to sort out what straps are being set..i already know as being an Intel freak since the 845 days i know how their chipsets work and how they have carried over designs from one chipset family to another.

I can't wait for RD600 boards to hit and the 590 boards so we can put this crap to bed...i told the world how it works already!!!

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I have almost the exact same setup as OPB, except I have the Bad Axe v304 with no mods.

I have the Zalman 9500, Super Talent DDR2 800 4-4-3-8 @ 2.2V, Conroe 6700 ES Stepping 5.

The max I can get is 3.82 with anywhere from 1.48-1.55 Vcore. FSB and Northbridge at max volts allowed in BIOS, tried BIOS 1304 and 1181.

At least I know that the Zalman 9500 is the limiting factor since our OCs are almost identical. I'm looking for a Tuniq Tower 120 and that may help the OC a bit. I'm pretty much maxed at 3.8. For 24/7, I think 3.7 at 1.4875V is addequate.

Cool thread and cool pics - :cool: Keep it coming:toast:

Please continue with your testing and comparison. Some of us don't know as much as others and would enjoy your research. I could learn a lot from it myself.

Sorry for the O.T. :P

What camera are you using? I luv it :D

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Originally Posted by JuanFlaiter

Sorry for the O.T. :P

What camera are you using? I luv it :D

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Its not just the camera. He's got an eye for composition, balance, lighting and Batman TV show angles. :D Makes the hardware sexy. :slobber:

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Originally Posted by gundamit

Its not just the camera. He's got an eye for composition, balance, lighting and Batman TV show angles. :D Makes the hardware sexy. :slobber:

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you put anything at an angle and it adds to it... yes the lighting is great
most people just center it and its good enough not OPB hes gotta do it all fancy. i give ya an atta boy!
now let us see the comparrison

thanks all...here are the two important sandra 2007 bench number regarding high freq. around ddr950+..with -4-4-3

I will get 304 running about exactly freq. tomorrow. so you will have rough idea about the difference

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/35/...andrabw7df.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3...rabwcas2fq.jpg