Super Talent 2GB T800UX2GC4 timings at 667MHz and 1.8v

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05-20-2006, 07:42 AM
Makubex_GB

Super Talent 2GB T800UX2GC4 timings at 667MHz and 1.8v

The newcomer to high end overclocking memory, Super Talent, seem to have done quite a good job with their first modules.

*Note: Because of my current processor and motherboard (see sig) I can't go over 2.1v for the memory or push the speed of the memory any higher than 667MHz. Even so I bought this pair of modules because I plan upgrading my CPU/mobo when AM2 or Conroe comes out.*

That being said, I am very impressed with the timings the Super Talent 2GB (2 x 1GB)T800UX2GC4 DDR2-800MHz memory can achieve at 667MHz and 1.8v.

I know that tRAS makes very little difference in speed, but still I am quite pleased of how low it can go:
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I know the following scores aren't very impressive, but it's mainly because of my crappy CPU.

Oddly enough, I actually achieved the highest benchmarks with 3-3-3-2 timings rather than 3-3-3-1 or any other timing (I tested all tRAS from 8-1).

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The other latencies wouldn't go lower than 3 even at 2.1v. It may be possible, but I'm thinking it will need more than 2.4v.
05-20-2006, 09:16 AM
vanovich

nice ,im happy i got a hold off a pair .havnt tested them yet though .
05-20-2006, 09:32 AM
Deathspawner

Great results man! I had no idea that tRAS of anything less than 4 was possible on Intels ;)

Would you mind running a SANDRA Unbuffered test at those settings? You can see which settings I use for unbuffered here.

Super Talent is kicking ass, and those D9GKX chips are to drool over.
05-20-2006, 10:06 AM
S&M

Is it D9 for sure ? I mean fatbody ? just D9 ? Just got a pair of these from ebay .... lol ...
05-20-2006, 10:08 AM
Deathspawner

They are not fatbodies.. they are DDR2 D9's.

http://micron.com/products/dram/ddr2...T47H64M8B6-25E
05-20-2006, 10:14 AM
S&M

Thnx Deathspawner ! good to hear ! I paid 200$ for my pair ... makes me feel lucky !
05-20-2006, 10:46 AM
Makubex_GB

Quote:

Originally Posted by S&M

Thnx Deathspawner ! good to hear ! I paid 200$ for my pair ... makes me feel lucky !

:eek: Just $200!!! Holy Crap you are lucky!! They retail for around $300!!

@ Deathspawner, sure I'll post some results for Sandra unbuffered a bit later. :)
05-20-2006, 10:49 AM
guess2098

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathspawner

They are not fatbodies.. they are DDR2 D9's.

http://micron.com/products/dram/ddr2...T47H64M8B6-25E

no way to use -25E on 667!
must be -37E one

-25E 1 IC is $10USD+ now! 2GB you need 32 IC hehe
that is why DDR2 1000 guarantee one like GSKILL OCZ, etc so expensive

http://micron.com/products/dram/ddr2...7H64M8B6%2D37E
05-20-2006, 11:00 AM
sierra_bound

The Super Talents are 1GB modules. I'm pretty certain they use Micron D9 chips. They're probably not on Micron's parts list because I don't think they're manufactured anymore.
05-20-2006, 11:07 AM
Makubex_GB

Quote:

Originally Posted by guess2098

no way to use -25E on 667!
must be -37E one

-25E 1 IC is $10USD+ now! 2GB you need 32 IC hehe
that is why DDR2 1000 guarantee one like GSKILL OCZ, etc so expensive

http://micron.com/products/dram/ddr2...7H64M8B6%2D37E

Remember that they are 2GB(2 x 1GB) DDR2-800. I'm running them at 667MHz because of my mobo.
05-20-2006, 11:17 AM
Deathspawner

Quote:

Originally Posted by guess2098

no way to use -25E on 667!

They are 400MHz modules, not 333MHz. Super Talent could have *easily* gone with D9GDH (333MHz) or something similar, but they didn't. That's probably why these modules retail for such a high price. I have had -amazing- experiences with the chips used in these modules. Buffalo is soon to release some FireStix DDR2-800 modules that also use the chips.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makubex_GB

@ Deathspawner, sure I'll post some results for Sandra unbuffered a bit later. :)

Thanks bro :D
05-20-2006, 11:32 AM
S&M

where can you buy this sticks in the states ? SuperTalent or Buffalo ?
05-20-2006, 11:40 AM
Deathspawner

The only place to buy them in the States that I know of is eWiz. They are only $290 atm.. they have literally gone down $100 in the last month.

As for the Buffalo, they are not out yet. Probably will hear about them in the next month.
05-20-2006, 12:07 PM
sierra_bound

Here are my Super Talents (PC2-800) with 2.1v

3-3-3
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/1069/3333556pr.jpg

4-4-3 isn't bad either. Same FSB, more memory speed.
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/8674/4434431ko.jpg
05-20-2006, 12:12 PM
Deathspawner

sierra_bound, I hate you because you have a far better CPU than mine.

Now, how about some EVEREST read results? ;)
05-20-2006, 12:17 PM
sierra_bound

Unfortunately I don't have Everest installed on my benching drive. I'll do that later today. Have to run out now on errands. With enough voltage, the Super Talents should be able to do 400 @ 3-3-3. As you probably know, it's hard to do a lot of experimenting with the AOpen board because of the limited number of ratios.
05-20-2006, 12:25 PM
Makubex_GB

Here's Sandra unbuffered. I used your settings, Deathspawner. I tested both 3-3-3-1 and 3-3-3-2 , and, unlike in the other tests, 3-3-3-1 did a tiny bit better than 3-3-3-2, as it would be expected.

3-3-3-1
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3-3-3-2
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05-20-2006, 12:49 PM
Deathspawner

Great results man, thanks a ton. Once you upgrade your board and CPU, that memory is going to be fun to tweak with.

Did you happen to compare the differences between tRAS 1 and tRAS 8? I wouldn't expect too much difference from your tested 1 and 2, but it would be interesting to see the difference from 8.

Edit: That's a pretty cool Windows skin btw. What's the name of that one?
05-20-2006, 01:06 PM
Makubex_GB

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathspawner

Great results man, thanks a ton. Once you upgrade your board and CPU, that memory is going to be fun to tweak with.

Did you happen to compare the differences between tRAS 1 and tRAS 8? I wouldn't expect too much difference from your tested 1 and 2, but it would be interesting to see the difference from 8.

Edit: That's a pretty cool Windows skin btw. What's the name of that one?

I sure did, and as you expected the speed difference is very minimal. Check it out:

3-3-3-8
http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/upl...0c2d26e638.jpg http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/upl...95396faa45.jpg

The windows skin is called Gloss Carbon. :)
05-20-2006, 01:09 PM
Deathspawner

Those are some seriously great results man.. awesome for DDR2-667 speeds. Sometimes tRAS seems like a waste of time, doesn't it? ;)
05-20-2006, 01:22 PM
Makubex_GB

Hahaha, sure does. :p:
05-20-2006, 05:55 PM
guess2098

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathspawner

They are 400MHz modules, not 333MHz. Super Talent could have *easily* gone with D9GDH (333MHz) or something similar, but they didn't. That's probably why these modules retail for such a high price. I have had -amazing- experiences with the chips used in these modules. Buffalo is soon to release some FireStix DDR2-800 modules that also use the chips.

Thanks bro :D

thought it is 667 kit, if 800 then -25e possible, but still using -37e possible becasue -37e is 1.8v microm guarantee, to 800 still easy
05-20-2006, 06:50 PM
Deathspawner

Quote:

Originally Posted by guess2098

thought it is 667 kit, if 800 then -25e possible, but still using -37e possible becasue -37e is 1.8v microm guarantee, to 800 still easy

Yes, that's what I implied :P

They are the same chips that Corsair use for their 1066MHz modules. Proth has gotten those modules to 600MHz.. so those 333MHz chips can go quite far.
05-20-2006, 11:52 PM
sierra_bound

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathspawner

sierra_bound, I hate you because you have a far better CPU than mine.

Now, how about some EVEREST read results? ;)

Here's Everest memory read. The one thing I don't like about the Everest tests is that the results vary a lot, depending on which version of Everest you're using.

3-3-3 @ 355
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9...d2663336bh.jpg

Sandra unbuffered
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/65/sandra3333553hv.jpg
05-21-2006, 07:04 AM
Deathspawner

Quote:

Originally Posted by sierra_bound

Here's Everest memory read. The one thing I don't like about the Everest tests is that the results vary a lot, depending on which version of Everest you're using.

Great, thanks a ton! I would have asked for a SANDRA Unbuffered, but I already asked one person and don't usually get lucky twice :D

As for EVEREST, version 2006 is absolutely horrible anyway. I trust 2005 (2.22) far more than 2006.

With 2005, my WRITE speed is around 3000, but with 2006 it's 7,500? Ya, I'm sure.

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