Geforce 7800 GTX 512 MB - Info Here

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/atta...chmentid=39443

Seems like there's gonna be a product launch from nVidia the 7th...

Something is being launched the 7th.....

http://www.scan.co.uk/

The green boxing gloves...

Round 1
Round 2
Round 3 ----> Knockout.

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New News on Release date, NOT the 7th....and it's NOT called the Ultra :confused: :p

Some very interesting Info :

TheInq

Price is....do I want to mention it?? :( :p :

The price is set at $599 to $649

Still getting one :D

The new G71 or "Faster G70" is a pure thoroughbred. If you remove the cooling solution which was introduced with Quadro FX 4500, you'll see that Nvidia modified the PCB (Printed Circuit Board) a bit in order to fit spanking new 1.1ns Samsung GDDR3 modules, which will be clocked between 800 and 900MHz.


Default clocks are set at 550/1800MHz, and every manufacturer can choose a variation. Do not expect these boards to have a single-slot cooling, since that would be close to suicide.

All that we can say is: 7800Ultra will be a truly remarkable product. For 1080p and 1900x1200 monitor users who want Transparency AntiAliasing and Anisotropic Filtering cracked to the max. µ



Fresh off the press!!!

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27428

OUR COLLEAGUES at MVKtech.net forums managed to get the picture of Nvidia's upcoming Geforce 7800 GTX 512 MB card. But Nvidia made the site take it off. However, you can find the original thread and the picture here

The card has a monstrous cooler and we believe we have seen this card before, someone leaked it before but Nvidia has categorically denied it and said that this is a Quadro cardbut we now know it is not.

The same chaps managed to grab a BIOS from an XFX Geforce 7800 GTX 512MB and the chaps learned that XFX card obviously clocked even higher than the specs, it's working at 580MHz core and 1730MHz memory in 3D, the throttle frequency is 500MHz core and 1730MHz memory while in 2D card, you switch to a 275MHz core and 1730MHz memory.

Since you can already download that BIOShere this means that XFX cards are almost available and that the company is just waiting for Nvidia's whistle to start selling them in retail. A week or two from now anyway. µ

I'm getting one...this is gonna be a slaughtering for ATI.... :eek:

wtf only 1730mhz mem!? :D wasn't it supposed to be 1800?

Same cooler as Quadro FX4500 like SO.

It is very quiet.

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That means without Vmods on water 650Mhz? :slobber:

This is truly worth the Ultra name...this means the card is near release...hopefully the 7th :fact:

This just isn't fair :D

I already got my SLI-D and Maze4 in the house along with some OCZ ramsinks and Vantec spectrum fan card...should do nice in the benches :D

That fan is really silent...nice :)

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/7...0gtx5124yz.jpg

i'm waiting to nov 7th

Wow, wonder if that sucker will fit in my SN25P!

This is very good news. Perhaps this will drive down the X1800 prices by Xmas

God this card is t3h sexeh! :woot: :banana:

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Thanks alot for that, I couldn't do it since I'm at work :p:

Great !
now I can buy this cooler from anyone who wishes to put this baby on phase-change :D

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I'm getting one...this is gonna be a slaughtering for ATI.... :eek:

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Just one? I may not be Nostradamus, but I see two in my future...

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Just one? I may not be Nostradamus, but I see two in my future...

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:p: I'm afraid I don't have that much money :D

btw vGPU is 1.45....how much is stock voltage on a GTX? 1.4v? I guess they overhauled the voltage circuitry for this one... :D

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:p: I'm afraid I don't have that much money :D

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I have been sellin everything i don't use in anticipation of these baby's. I won't even need to turn my heater on this winter :), High end gpu's are like an investment with the prices of natural gas and heating oil climbing here in the states.

anyonbe know how its with the power usage on this card?

Found a pic of the cooler:
http://www.pretaktovanie.sk/obr/3dka...coolerback.jpg

Thanks!!!!!! Whoah Impresssive!!!! :eek:

Wow awesome. How much is this baby going to cost retail? Any estimates?

LOL....everything we know about this cooler I posted a month ago. Just do the search for it in the Xtreme 3D section. This cooler is EXACTLY like the pair that I have for my 7800GTX cards. Going to water so they will need a new home soon...

i'm surprised the fanATIcs havent jumped to x1800 defence yet, so i'll emphasize... this is gonna slaughter x1800xt, and r580 nowhere to be seen to come to the rescue! :D

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i'm surprised the fanATIcs havent jumped to x1800 defence yet, so i'll emphasize... this is gonna slaughter x1800xt, and r580 nowhere to be seen to come to the rescue! :D

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If they can get it hardlaunched...this is the most impressive move ever by nVidia...and possibly one of the best. period.

There is no matching this card...programmable memorycontroller or not...it's like a monster Supercharged V8 vs a little Turbocharged Asian car....Brute power, there is no matching that....

Something tells me that they also tweaked the hell out of the core.

ATI fanboy or not...choice is clear on what card to get.....a few ordered the X1800XT in the other thread...stupid move unless you are a brandloyalist...I don't care what company I have in the rig...I just want the fastest card.....this time around ATI will get one HELLUVA spanking...

And remember...the MOMENT these cards are out...you can put them in SLI....We have to wait for Crossfire X1800 cards....bad spanking again :slapass: :(

I hope they get over this....because it's not good for ATI....especially when nVidia will also launch a 7600...which can also happen very very soon.

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i'm surprised the fanATIcs havent jumped to x1800 defence yet, so i'll emphasize... this is gonna slaughter x1800xt, and r580 nowhere to be seen to come to the rescue! :D

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Let the flamming begin!
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The fanATIcs dont go nuts as the Nv people do.
This is a monster card but i would still take the XT.
I never really liked my GTX in gaming.

(This is not the start of a flame war!)

Ah, the beloved Nalu is back online ;)

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Ah, the beloved Nalu is back online ;)

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I think she just got some bigger boobs :D woot baby!! :woot:

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This is a monster card but i would still take the XT.
I never really liked my GTX in gaming.

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lmao....do you think this card is made for benching? :D

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Wow awesome. How much is this baby going to cost retail? Any estimates?

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under $500 :rolleyes:

This heatsink is already available on the leadtek 7800 gtx extreme 256mb.

I already have the exact heatsink on my video card!! :p:

http://vr-zone.com/index.php?i=2791

Anyone have any guesses as to whether this will fit inside of a Shuttle SN25P?

This is a 2 slot design. Check if you shuttle can handle this as well as space for sata ports cause this card is long!!

Is it longer than a standard 7800GTX by much? There is room for a 2-slot cooler like pictured when I checked (with fan shroud removed like I have already for my 7800GT), but I'm unsure of whether it will be too long, mainly :). Is it known, or just have to wait?

I wonder if the MOSFETs will have the same layout, because if one is to watercool this thing and remove the heatsink then your MOSFETS will be bare unlike the current GTX ref cooler.

I doubt that it is any longer than a 256 Gtx but only time can tell....

wow wonder what eVGA and BFG have up their sleaves :D

$650-700 is my guess. But i think ATI still has a lot of heatroom for an X1800XT PE. I'm stunned by the core clock of 580mhz. I bet this thing gets HOT even on that cooler.

My plans of two X1800XL has been scrapped. Nvidia never cease to amaze.

-k0nsl

Cant wait to see this $*!t out already and compare it to the X1800 XT see price drops and get 2x of the best cards. Woooooot!

what's similar program as nibitor for ati's ?

christ, thats a beast and a half! Now i feel like i shouldnt have gotten my XFX 7800GTX haha. Oh well, ill go get another b4 i get one of these i suppose. Awsome to see, none the less :D

Last year I missed out on the highend gpus this year I am not making that mistake twice. Wanted a R9800 Xt 9850 xt but didnt get them. :/ Cant wait for the reviews

This is good news. So nvidia did feel threatened by the x1800XT. Fanboys are no longer defending the 7800GTX, they are waiting for nvidia to save the day with the 512MB version.

They rip off customers, but in the end both are happy. Customers get an uber overclocked card, and nvidia gets the money. They could have just added the faster extra memory and left the OCing to the pros. But of course, a 7800GTX with 512MB of memory at 450MHz wouldn't stand a chance. Had to be 130MHz more.

If the card performs, great. I aint wasting money on overclocked hardware. Chances are, there won't be much headroom for OCing. This launch is awesome though, if they can release them fast enough it might drop the price of the x1800XL even more :).

My guess is, ATI will still hold the WR for 3dmark with the x1800 cards (judging from OCs people have on a 7800GTX now, it won't break 11k).

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This is good news. So nvidia did feel threatened by the x1800XT. Fanboys are no longer defending the 7800GTX, they are waiting for nvidia to save the day with the 512MB version.

They rip off customers, but in the end both are happy. Customers get an uber overclocked card, and nvidia gets the money. They could have just added the faster extra memory and left the OCing to the pros. But of course, a 7800GTX with 512MB of memory at 450MHz wouldn't stand a chance. Had to be 130MHz more.

If the card performs, great. I aint wasting money on overclocked hardware. Chances are, there won't be much headroom for OCing. This launch is awesome though, if they can release them fast enough it might drop the price of the x1800XL even more :).

My guess is, ATI will still hold the WR for 3dmark with the x1800 cards (judging from OCs people have on a 7800GTX now, it won't break 11k).

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That is the most retarded post I've read in a long time...not only is it clear from your previous posts that you wouldn't even consider having a different colored card in your system (thus limiting your choice to one manufacturer...silly)....but now you are a sour loser too.... :nono: :fact:

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My guess is, ATI will still hold the WR for 3dmark with the x1800 cards (judging from OCs people have on a 7800GTX now, it won't break 11k).

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No need...ATI owners have to wait till Decemberish to get Crossfire...thus all WR's will be with nVidia...sure single card maybe not. But nVidia got them on all fronts....fact.

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Originally Posted by ahmad

This is good news. So nvidia did feel threatened by the x1800XT. Fanboys are no longer defending the 7800GTX, they are waiting for nvidia to save the day with the 512MB version.

They rip off customers, but in the end both are happy. Customers get an uber overclocked card, and nvidia gets the money. They could have just added the faster extra memory and left the OCing to the pros. But of course, a 7800GTX with 512MB of memory at 450MHz wouldn't stand a chance. Had to be 130MHz more.

If the card performs, great. I aint wasting money on overclocked hardware. Chances are, there won't be much headroom for OCing. This launch is awesome though, if they can release them fast enough it might drop the price of the x1800XL even more :).

My guess is, ATI will still hold the WR for 3dmark with the x1800 cards (judging from OCs people have on a 7800GTX now, it won't break 11k).

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You, my friend, should definitely think outside the "red box". It's great that you're a fan of ATi and all, but this is one to stop and smell the flowers for...

It's been FIVE months since the release of the GTX, going on SIX. If you remember correctly, video cards launch generally every 6 months, New series in spring with a refresh in the winter. It's moving to winter, and thus it's refresh time....

No customer of the 256mb GTX has the right to be mad either, for the same reason I just mentioned. By your logic, everyone who bought an X800xtpe shoulda been pissed when the x850xtpe came out. Same with people who bought the 9800pro when the xt came out 5 months later.... Learn your history.

As for them upping clockspeeds that much, it's no surprise honestly. ATi *KNEW* this was coming, we all pretty much did. None of us expected this big of a jump, but we all knew it would happen. 580 core is more than we expected, 1730 ram is less, but either way we all knew it'd happen. It's been said since the 2nd delay of the R520 that NVidia would be ready with a refresh by the time it was released afterall.

What makes this even scarier, NVidia still have the G72, which we have no idea what it is. The 7800gs is suppose to be the upper mainstream card, likely at $250 or less.

This is a series launch for the record books, the first, and ONLY time that every part was available ON it's day of launch. It's never happened before...

So, let me get this straight, you're MAD at NVidia for launching a monster card? You should be HAPPY that a company is upping the ante man, I don't care who it is doing it, pushing the envelope is still making things better for us....

As for the x1800xt holding the 03/05 records, there's not a chance at that, as the reason for the scores on the 7800gtx now is it's memory bottleneck...

Couldn't have said it better....think outside the box... :) (wether it's green or red)

i bet this card will score over 11k in stock trim what do you guys thing??
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i bet this card will score over 11k in stock trim what do you guys thing??

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It's probably over 10k that's for sure :D

Ridiculous power in that card...

580 on the core is definatly gonna put a hell of a gap on a regular 7800 GTX, my 7800 GTX can bench to just alittle under 600 mhz tops, 595 to be exact, and I can say, from 580 mhz core speed, this thing is gonna be insane...

add the faster NS ram, the extra ram, and the extra 530 mhz to the ram, and it's just incredible to think of what we can expect from these cards.

I expect one to be in my system before the end of the year.. That's what I expect.

Tim, you glad you listened to me when I told you to wait?

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"what we can expect "IF we give it some 3800mhz as juice :)
i like this but the bottlenecking is kinda ridiculous..
by the way you have an gtx?benchies :stick: :fact:

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You know........some people actually use their cards for gaming? Bottleneck? Not if you game at 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF :D

Maybe in 3DMark..but I don't game in 1024x768 :p:

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I expect one to be in my system before the end of the year.. That's what I expect.

Tim, you glad you listened to me when I told you to wait?

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I always listen to myself Dil...there was no point in getting a GTX for me...I wanted 512mb...and I knew that nVidia would release another card after R520 :)

But I also listened to you yes :D

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what's gaming? :D

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*sigh :D :D

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My guess is, ATI will still hold the WR for 3dmark with the x1800 cards (judging from OCs people have on a 7800GTX now, it won't break 11k).

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Gorod - 11442 - Venice 3.1GHz | 7800GTX , BFG , Single , 649/1622 | Watercooled , Voltmoded

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1363135

The 1.1ns ram will rip through 05. depending upon how well the gpu can balance the equation...but no one seems to be worrying about the fact that the card will be set to different speeds depending upon whether its in 3d or 2d...

Perkam

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The 1.1ns ram will rip through 05. depending upon how well the gpu can balance the equation...but no one seems to be worrying about the fact that the card will be set to different speeds depending upon whether its in 3d or 2d...

Perkam

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I thought this different frequencies are usual these days :)

Sweet.

If i can get one for around £400, i might have to sell my GTX, though i do game at 480/1350 with it, will this 512mb card be worth it?

I play all the games, COD2, FEAR, Quake 4, with a 19" CRT, i game at 1600x1200 85hz. Can;t use AA/AF in FEAR, and not much in Quake 4. Bit disapointed by my performance TBH with you. if this card is 20fps better, i might have to get it. SLI doesn't really appeal to me that much, plus my mobo isn't SLI, god knows my i didn't get the SLI one.

nvidia si doing 2D and 3D speeds for a good while now.

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Sweet.

If i can get one for around £400, i might have to sell my GTX, though i do game at 480/1350 with it, will this 512mb card be worth it?

I play all the games, COD2, FEAR, Quake 4, with a 19" CRT, i game at 1600x1200 85hz. Can;t use AA/AF in FEAR, and not much in Quake 4. Bit disapointed by my performance TBH with you. if this card is 20fps better, i might have to get it. SLI doesn't really appeal to me that much, plus my mobo isn't SLI, god knows my i didn't get the SLI one.

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I'd say just wait till the reviews :)

You know what is a scary thought....they might do it all over again in Q1 on 90nm...but then 32pipes...because we still haven't seen that card yet..those rumours came from somewhere mind you....we won't see it on this card...

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That is the most retarded post I've read in a long time...not only is it clear from your previous posts that you wouldn't even consider having a different colored card in your system (thus limiting your choice to one manufacturer...silly)....but now you are a sour loser too.... :nono: :fact:

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I see what suits my needs and I buy. I want something to play with without requiring vmods etc. Thats why I chose what I chose. Sour loser? What the heck have I lost or won? Its funny how you are getting personal with your nvidia fanisim. I am saying what I think, you say what you think.

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No need...ATI owners have to wait till Decemberish to get Crossfire...thus all WR's will be with nVidia...sure single card maybe not. But nVidia got them on all fronts....fact.

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Crossfire should be available sometime in mid november (some saying even earlier).

Sure its setting higher standards, but its really nothing new. These cards will still fail MS DCT tests for example... LOL. I like new tech and I like innovation. What nvidia is doing is overclocking. Good for the market, but unimpressive to me. I was unimpressed with ATI's 9800XT back in the day when it hit because of this.

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These cards will still fail MS DCT tests for example... LOL.

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If NVIDIA really failed, you wouldn't see any WHQL drivers from them. This subject has been covered thoroughly in the past, but since it's quite obvious you weren't around when that happened, I suggest you do some more searches on the subject.

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You know what is a scary thought....they might do it all over again in Q1 on 90nm...but then 32pipes...

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Hey, hey!!
Slow down, Nvidia will have 90nm parts in Q1, that's a fact. But, they will release their new mid-range at Q1.... for high-end they will need time to master the process....
So give them 6 months from now for new high-end parts.... ;)

"but then 32pipes" that is a hope not a fact.

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"but then 32pipes" that is a hope not a fact.

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D'oh.... :p:

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I see what suits my needs and I buy. I want something to play with without requiring vmods etc. Thats why I chose what I chose. Sour loser? What the heck have I lost or won? Its funny how you are getting personal with your nvidia fanisim. I am saying what I think, you say what you think.



Crossfire should be available sometime in mid november (some saying even earlier).

Sure its setting higher standards, but its really nothing new. These cards will still fail MS DCT tests for example... LOL. I like new tech and I like innovation. What nvidia is doing is overclocking. Good for the market, but unimpressive to me. I was unimpressed with ATI's 9800XT back in the day when it hit because of this.

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Cross-Fire master cards for the x1800xt aren't slated for release until december IIRC...

It's been explained on the DCT test, NVidia are fully capable of all functions required for SM3 and then some. Flamebait removed - Perkam

You wouldn't consider using un-tapped 1.1ns ram new tech? That, my friend, IS new tech.

The core is clocked higher, so has EVERY refresh since the dawn of videocard refreshes. The 7800gtx was the new tech, this card is the improvement... If you care to get technical, the x800xt wasn't new tech, neither was the x850xt, or the 9800pro, or the 9800xt... They were all based off the 9700pro with minor improvements(slightly optimized shaders/more pipes added) in every case.

Now, is it really neccessary to needlessly bash a card, one that will UNDOUBTFULLY be the BEST card on the market, hands down?

ok, here's what i think. this whole 1800mhz ram stuff was a little optimistic and this XFX is some extreme edition like the 256mb GTX at 490/1300mhz

i say the plain 512MB cards are gonna run 550/1500-1600mhz

taking bets now :D

wonder whats ati is gonna do now :eek:

This guy says it all!!! -------> :banana:

Two of those watercooled in SLI. That's just an absolutely insane amount of power. If DFI keeps taking forever on that SLI-DR Expert, I may never even get a chance to touch my 7800GT :)

What a beauty!! I would definatley trade my girlfriend in for that. Hell, she costs me more in 2 months then this card will ever retail for.

Just to add a new perspective but I am hoping this new "G71-ish" Ultra they are about to put out will finally put pressure on ATi to release the R580 sooner than expected.

Its been said that the R580 is working fine and was not done by the team who botched the R520. Hopefully ATi can pull the 32pipe R580 very soon, otherwise there's gonna be a slaughter worse than Ive ever seen. Im sure the nVidia guys are getting payback for the FX fiasco and are enjoying every moment of it.

On a technical end ATi may have won but their poor designs bit them in the ass. You'd think that after netburst people would finally get the picture. Higher fill-rates and clocks are *not* what work. It may in the short term but one day its gonna rear its ugly head and it will not be pretty.

I think they have pushed the R300 design way too far and they need to find a more efficient structure because clearly they cant get the cards to scale at all, much less with the full pipelines.

The NV40 core is also on its way out as well. It has maybe one more die shrink left before they are going to be forced to re-design it (based off of clocks and heat loads) from the ground up just like ATi will be forced to do after the R580

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What a beauty!! I would definatley trade my girlfriend in for that. Hell, she costs me more in 2 months then this card will ever retail for.

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youd better hope she doesnt read these forums in her spare time :D .

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youd better hope she doesnt read these forums in her spare time :D .

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nah, shes a party animal

You think I am an ATI fan? I like both nvidia and ATI and I have recommended Nvidia and ATI equally. I am saying what I think: sure its the fastest card, but I would never buy it. For one, it will be over priced, and 2, it doesn't impress me. Period.

Flamebait removed - Perkam

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Just to add a new perspective but I am hoping this new "G71-ish" Ultra they are about to put out will finally put pressure on ATi to release the R580 sooner than expected.

Its been said that the R580 is working fine and was not done by the team who botched the R520. Hopefully ATi can pull the 32pipe R580 very soon, otherwise there's gonna be a slaughter worse than Ive ever seen. Im sure the nVidia guys are getting payback for the FX fiasco and are enjoying every moment of it.

On a technical end ATi may have won but their poor designs bit them in the ass. You'd think that after netburst people would finally get the picture. Higher fill-rates and clocks are *not* what work. It may in the short term but one day its gonna rear its ugly head and it will not be pretty.

I think they have pushed the R300 design way too far and they need to find a more efficient structure because clearly they cant get the cards to scale at all, much less with the full pipelines.

The NV40 core is also on its way out as well. It has maybe one more die shrink left before they are going to be forced to re-design it (based off of clocks and heat loads) from the ground up just like ATi will be forced to do after the R580

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I don't think the R580 is a 32 pipeline core but a 16 pipeline with 48 ROPs. Think of it as a 4 RV530s put to gether ( RV530 is a 4 pipeline with 12 ROPs).

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You think I am an ATI fan? I like both nvidia and ATI and I have recommended Nvidia and ATI equally. I am saying what I think: sure its the fastest card, but I would never buy it. For one, it will be over priced, and 2, it doesn't impress me. Period.

But of course, nvidiots will be nvidiots. Heck, I bet you even bought an FX card just to show your support :p:

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Flamebait removed - Perkam

Hope Shamie gets a couple of these and kicks some arses xD

In the FS section or on eBay :D

The 'garbage can' that gives back ;)

i'll admit i low-balled somone in the last month but in my defence he was charging retail price for a used video card without a heatsink. So the buyer would be left paying 30$ over retail for a used card without a warrenty :(.

It seems we'll see quite a bit of 7800s piling up in FS when this hits...:p: Hopefully this wont contribute to the price gouging thats beginning with the XT at some retailers.

Perkam

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It seems we'll see quite a bit of 7800s piling up in FS when this hits...:p: Hopefully this wont contribute to the price gouging thats beginning with the XT at some retailers.

Perkam

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You do a good job Perkam (in keeping an eye on this thread)

You can pick of a GTX for cheap in the FS section...wow :D

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It seems we'll see quite a bit of 7800s piling up in FS when this hits...:p: Hopefully this wont contribute to the price gouging thats beginning with the XT at some retailers.

Perkam

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Done that :)

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27443

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AFTER a little research we managed to get information from several retailers and e-tailers. The 7800GTX 512MB is already SKUed [Yes, we've turned Stock Keeping Unit into a verb, Ed.], and the delivery date is set for Monday, November 14th. Several Nvidia partners told us about shipping boards in full quantity in week 46, so it seems like X1800XT got competition even before it has shipped into retail.

Back in July, we have reported here that little NV47 chip had far more juice than relatively modest clock speed of original GTX. The Green Goblin launched its 7800 series over five months before Captain Canuck gave an answer in the sight of X1K series - it was more than obvious that Nvidia kept silent about the true capabilities of the NV47/G70 chip.

However, we have managed to see some boards dubbed "Faster G70 with 512MB", which were clocking to heavens high.

One board even had the GPU clocked to sky-high 800 MHz, :confused: which sent shivers down my spine. 110 nano process doing 800 MHz clock? Vulcans would say "highly illogical", but we didn't care at the time and decided to trust our very eyes instead of sources who claimed differently.

In September, some reps even claimed that the product was cancelled. In the end - all stories come true.

The supposedly cancelled UItra was simply re-named to 7800GTX 512MB. While I personally feel this is a crap name and devalues of this product, I'll leave this to Nvidia's marchitecture pandits, minions and spinners. This is the 7800Ultra, no matter how it is called now. The price is set at $599 to $649, € or £400 much more expensive than X1800XT, but Nvidia believes it has a reason to keep the price sky-high.

The new G71 or "Faster G70" is a pure thoroughbred. If you remove the cooling solution which was introduced with Quadro FX 4500, you'll see that Nvidia modified the PCB (Printed Circuit Board) a bit in order to fit spanking new 1.1ns Samsung GDDR3 modules, which will be clocked between 800 and 900MHz.

Since the memory is declared to work at 909MHz, you can expect some serious overclocking there, and passing the once unimaginable 60GB/s barrier. Don't be too suprised if you see enthusiast forums boiling with reports of 1GHz memory clock soon after introduction.

However, the show isn't stopping here - some manufacturers decided to clock the GPU higher and lowered the speed of the memory to keep the board stable in volume production. Of course, if you get a jackpot sample, you can expect GPU core easily surpassing the 600 MHz mark and it will be truly interesting to see how will 16-pipe R520XT cope with "Faster G70 with 512MB" at the same GPU clock speed, as we reported over four months ago.

You can be for sure that at least three "us

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Imagine that :D

Updated the first post....price is SKY high...but also the clocks..



it's NOT called the Ultra :confused: :p:
Price is....do I want to mention it?? :( :p :

The price is set at $599 to $649

Still getting one :D

The new G71 or "Faster G70" is a pure thoroughbred. If you remove the cooling solution which was introduced with Quadro FX 4500, you'll see that Nvidia modified the PCB (Printed Circuit Board) a bit in order to fit spanking new 1.1ns Samsung GDDR3 modules, which will be clocked between 800 and 900MHz.


Default clocks are set at 550/1800MHz, and every manufacturer can choose a variation. Do not expect these boards to have a single-slot cooling, since that would be close to suicide.

All that we can say is: 7800Ultra will be a truly remarkable product. For 1080p and 1900x1200 monitor users who want Transparency AntiAliasing and Anisotropic Filtering cracked to the max. µ

The only one saying it was Ultra was you =)

Now is this G71 or G70 ??
Im really impressed with what they did to this core.

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The only one saying it was Ultra was you =)

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Pleas be friendly...if it was just me, I think everyone was confused on this one...not only me.

Weird thing with this core..I wonder what's up with that....G71...hm. :)

Will there be problems running this ones SLI ?
Cooler is pretty big.

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Will there be problems running this ones SLI ?
Cooler is pretty big.

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They will fit...but how will the cooling be? If it draws air from the outside...no problem...But I believe it will get pretty hot in there... :)

This is gonna be one ridiculous card :D

Maybe reversing the fan on the card above will keep it cooler.

R580 is said to be a 'small speed bump'. Like comparing 9800 to 9700, so I wouldn't expect much from it. Still gonna be 16 pipes.

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Just to add a new perspective but I am hoping this new "G71-ish" Ultra they are about to put out will finally put pressure on ATi to release the R580 sooner than expected.

Its been said that the R580 is working fine and was not done by the team who botched the R520. Hopefully ATi can pull the 32pipe R580 very soon, otherwise there's gonna be a slaughter worse than Ive ever seen. Im sure the nVidia guys are getting payback for the FX fiasco and are enjoying every moment of it.

On a technical end ATi may have won but their poor designs bit them in the ass. You'd think that after netburst people would finally get the picture. Higher fill-rates and clocks are *not* what work. It may in the short term but one day its gonna rear its ugly head and it will not be pretty.

I think they have pushed the R300 design way too far and they need to find a more efficient structure because clearly they cant get the cards to scale at all, much less with the full pipelines.

The NV40 core is also on its way out as well. It has maybe one more die shrink left before they are going to be forced to re-design it (based off of clocks and heat loads) from the ground up just like ATi will be forced to do after the R580

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So...what this basically could mean is no new king from ATI till late next year? R600?

Damn....wtf is this....I never expected this to happen....this is one crazy card. I expected a modest speedbump with maybe 1.4ns ram...but not this :eek:

This is just incredible... :eek:

I dont think anyone expected this, it sure came as a flashbang.

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man that fan is HUGE, I doubt it will ever get very hot with that size + heatpipes

also I just might turn to be right about the 512mb gtx beeing available before x1800xt in retail (to me 2 stores that offer x1800xt doesn't mean available)

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I agree...it's highly likely that I can get this card in the UK before the X1800XT...which is still scheduled for the 28th of November...could be earlier..but I don't think before the 14th....but WHO cares...I'm not getting a X1800XT....I'm getting a nVidia GTX 512meg :D

Uberman ;)
What you mean by not liking your GTX in games?

It seems for me that atis solution has some improvement to do in the drivers section.

I dont like the mouselag or fps drops when using higher resolutions.
Ok for single player but not in intense multiplayer.
Thats my only problem with the card.

Pics are not the 512meg just the Leadtek Extreme edition...pics are only for reference... :)

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It was said the cooler doesn't work by taking in air from above the card, but rather by pulling air in from the interior, over the card and then exhausting it out the back.

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Holy cow :help:

If a 600/1700 mhz monster 7800GTX comes out on the same dates as a widespread X1800XT availability (in Europe at least), ATI is going to be completely :owned:

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term but one day its gonna rear its ugly head and it will not be pretty.

I think they have pushed the R300 design way too far and they need to find a more efficient structure because clearly they cant get the cards to scale at all, much less with the full pipelines.

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The R520 is brand new, it's nothing to do with the R300.

Oh MAN, X1800XL FS anybody? :D (joke, I wish I could sell and trade up to the 512 GTX, but I'm broke now :( )

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The R520 is brand new, it's nothing to do with the R300.

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Well, it is brand new, but I wouldn't say it has nothing related to the R300.

Well yeah, but the way he said it, was the R520 is just a updated version of the R300 design, like the previous cards before.