Looks like we have a keeper:D
XP2700
AIUGB 0245
Runs 3D at 2976 so far:D
OPP
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Looks like we have a keeper:D
XP2700
AIUGB 0245
Runs 3D at 2976 so far:D
OPP
Wow, nice one OPP. These Thoroughbread 'B' cores can really OC high.
Wow....way to go OPP:toast:
Sweet!!!!
Go go go OPP!!!
We do have a sickness don't we...............:D
:slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Runs 3D at 2976 so far:D
OPP
Imagine the 3dm2k1 score @ 13.5*220....21.5K+ ? :D
Fewture is checking the ORB
:D :D
Damn!! Nice cpu you have there...
Go Opp....try some 3dmark and get DJ first...then try Holico and JC ;)
Very nice. What board you running that in Opp?
sweet:slobber:
Ooo my! That's rather fast! I think it might be time to fry my 2600+ for a new stepping.
LOL sys.... heheheh
:slobber: :eek: :slobber: :eek: :slobber: :eek:
that's really fastttttttt!! 3100Mhz just like that, out of the box?!
amd it's getting better and better!
convert that from mhz to the amd rating scale?
Anybody have that link which converts?
Or set up a proportion...
1800 = ??
------ ----
1533 = 3100
i think .... lol
about 3600+ right??
I just did it with my 1600+ and 1333, but not on purpose. So i'm in the market for a new cpu:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by sysfailur
Ooo my! That's rather fast! I think it might be time to fry my 2600+ for a new stepping.
:slobber: Where do you get these chips?!?! Thats insane!! Go take over the ORB please.:)
I got a 2400+ for sale if you're interested PM me.Quote:
Originally posted by antipop
I just did it with my 1600+ and 1333, but not on purpose. So i'm in the market for a new cpu:rolleyes:
Do I smell 22k? Killer chip you got there :).
OMG that is one hella of a OC :thumbsup:
way to go opp ill stand them up u knock them down
Hey guys,
This is the same chip that did the 21k on the orb, I was limited to voltage so I put it in my KD7 to find out how good it was. So unless the NF7 comes up with more voltage then 2V I'm going to have to do 3D runs at 198x15 so I dought I will get much out of the KD7, who knows.
OPP
Now this would take down JC if it could be ran:D
How much core voltage on the Epox and Asus nForce mobos by the way??
OPP
w0w my 2400=same stepping :o OMg!!!
Epox 8RDA has a sweet 2.2vcore....Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
How much core voltage on the Epox and Asus nForce mobos by the way??
OPP
Asus is summat ghey like 1.85 iirc without a vmod, killed mine vmodding it :rolleyes:
My guess is you can kick some butt with the Epox and C10 bios....
Prometeia or Vapokill Opp?
very nice OPP...
id second the kick butt with the new epox
Epox is 2.2vcore and I think Asus was 1.85vcore unmodded.Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
How much core voltage on the Epox and Asus nForce mobos by the way??
OPP
By the way that is one awesome chip, don't know whether to try one of those or go for a Barton :eek:
Dizzzamn!
the epox has 2.200 witch is damn high for a bios setting without a volt mod but look who im telling.Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
How much core voltage on the Epox and Asus nForce mobos by the way??
OPP
and i not to sore about the asus
Heres another question, does the epox let you use higher multipliers if you have a XP2100, since I cut the chip it defualts at 133x13. Would I be able to use the 13.5 or 14??
OPP
I just thought about it....only 35mhz or so away from a 1 gig overclock:eek: :eek: That has to be one of the most amazing AMD overclocks I've seen in a long time.Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Hey guys,
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=&postid=80099
This is the same chip that did the 21k on the orb, I was limited to voltage so I put it in my KD7 to find out how good it was. So unless the NF7 comes up with more voltage then 2V I'm going to have to do 3D runs at 198x15 so I dought I will get much out of the KD7, who knows.
Good point, let me work on that:DQuote:
Originally posted by mdzcpa
I just thought about it....only 35mhz or so away from a 1 gig overclock:eek: :eek: That has to be one of the most amazing AMD overclocks I've seen in a long time.
OPP
Go man, Go!Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Good point, let me work on that:D
OPP
According to the P-rating application from ocinside it would be a 4198+
Not sure about the multi issue there OPP.... I THINK with an unlocked pally you have all the multis, but i am not SURE of that.
2.2vcore.. I see that thing screaming.............
OMG =]
I WANT one of these, bummer i can't cough up the money for it though :( ... haven't even seen these cpu's on the dutch market :/ ..
Suposedly you can, but you may need a V1.1 8RDA+ and 8RDA2C16 BIOS.Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Heres another question, does the epox let you use higher multipliers if you have a XP2100, since I cut the chip it defualts at 133x13. Would I be able to use the 13.5 or 14??
OPP
holy jesus...
dude, get a board and run that thing.
show us what it really can do ;)
Hey Opp is that the chip that you cut the L12 bridge on? If so do you think that had anything to do with reaching the 3100+ speeds?
I thought the AIUHB was a better stepping than the AIUGB's.
I guess you changed my mind. Awesome work OPP! :toast:
-edited, G instead of C-
AIUGB 0245 is what he said it is.
OMG thats just awesome :eek:
bump
OPP:)
Excellent work my man:thumbsup:
The EPoX 8RDA+ was good except for one problem I experienced:
Multipliers between 13 and 14 did not work....everything else did lower and higher, thats why I never ran 3D with mine at a top overclock, because I could not run optimum FSB speeds AND top cpu overclock. You'll have to go over to AOA forums and see what the current consensus is as far as the latest bios's.
Randi:D
Excellent job OPP!:toast:
I find it quite annoying that boards and chips are showing up where it is impossible to get many multiplier/FSB combinations to work. Whose fault is it, AMD's or the mobo maker's?
DDTUNG:cool:
I'd say motherboard manufacturers. As far as AMD is concerned, the chip has 1 multiplier, the one it came with. Too bad...:(
Yikes! You've got your 9700 at 490/358 OPP? That's incredible...
What does JC have his at?
@ opp
for the epox the c16 bios does the trick for you;)
with that bios you can change all multiplier, also 13 to 15!!!!
the c16 bios has had some contradictory results...
Its one of those you try and see if fo you its better than c10 or not...
on mine the c16 disabled sound and lan, same for a lot of others...
But it has been the best overclocker as Baller02 says....
JC's raddy is at 495/393 for his 22k runQuote:
Originally posted by Zroc
Yikes! You've got your 9700 at 490/358 OPP? That's incredible...
What does JC have his at?
The 8RDA2C16 bios should do it - that is what I have at the moment and it unlocks high multi's ...Quote:
Originally posted by Nico
Suposedly you can, but you may need a V1.1 8RDA+ and 8RDA2C16 BIOS.
--fibo
I think OPP just got a lucky center-of-the-wafer chip :P Bastid!
great over:banana::banana::banana::banana: oppainter :toast:
that cpu with the NF7... YEhA!
:banana: :banana: :banana::banana: :banana:
OPP:toast: ,
well, what can i say...? very nice:) i'll be waiting for your 3dmark run at that speed. however you may have hard time to beat nForce 2 score even with more mhz juice flowin out of VIA chipset. i hope i'm wrong cos i wanna see AMD stealing #1 spot once again:D
Wow. If you can do that with your cooling I can only imagine what my setup will do :D Same stepping, only its a 2600+. 226 watt Peltier as well. Lookin good :D
Just for kicks let 's see a 3d score at 198X15. My 2800+ has the same stepping with week 44 and highest it will do 3d is around 2850. So how high is the car high test at 2976?
Alright, its time for AMD to take the ORB back...will someone plz give us a fully-working NF2 board? :)
I think there would be alot of depends getting handed out if he can do that...... heheheh
" Ummmmmmmmmmm JC...........UMMMMMMM sorry bro.............."
heheh
Hell, I want to see JC back on and AMD too :p
I want to see Opp with a 8RDA+ with 2.2V on the core!! And a pelted epox NB.....Quote:
Originally posted by N8
Hell, I want to see JC back on and AMD too :p
He has the CPU, the mem, the cooling, only a good board is missing for a 22k 3dmark!
NICE job man keep it up!!
ovp seems to kick in at 2.05 on the Asus using the 6301 Abit mod technique.Quote:
Originally posted by Nico
Epox is 2.2vcore and I think Asus was 1.85vcore unmodded.
By the way that is one awesome chip, don't know whether to try one of those or go for a Barton :eek:
Shad
wow nice oc op! i have a simmilar chip XP2700+ AIUGB 02462PBW. I wonder if mine could get that high :D. btw, my ASUS A7V8X goes to 2.05v with the overvolt jumper... gonna have to try that later. :D
Quote:
Originally posted by NoStra
I want to see Opp with a 8RDA+ with 2.2V on the core!! And a pelted epox NB.....
He has the CPU, the mem, the cooling, only a good board is missing for a 22k 3dmark!
If you think 22k will be achived right now with 8rda+ which is a EPOx mobo on a AMD cpu you better wake up from your sweet dream
I´ve had my 8rda+ for a few days and I can tell you it suffers from the "high fsb slowdown sindrome" like every other Epox mobo I´v owned , with 8k3a it could be solved with cpufsb or wpcredit , and cpufsb doesnt work with 8rda+ and wpcredit is a bit of a nightmare and I doubt it will help as you dont have a screen to tweak but 6 or 7 see pic
and please dont come with sandra benchmark bull§§§§ because my testing was done with 3dmark ;)
all you can do is wait for a fast bios from EPOX and a cpufsb compatible with 8rda+
Can't just do a simple "record registers @ XXX FSB & apply them @ YYY FSB", SKATAN?
many wont change and
doing that method most of the time it will lock
Boooo. We need NF2 SetFSB :)
i think we need a rivatuner nforce2 compatible as i dont see a Pll on the board :)
Well, something ;)
How bad you think ur gonna beat ur 8K3A score w/ that thing? :D
I'm gonna run the whole test a few times, but I just ran my 8rda+ at 220 fsb x10 ( 2200) and 177fsbx12.5 ( 2213) and the score was a little worse with the lower speed fsb(177).
I am not doubting you here Skatan, as I have heard of this issue b4.
I only ran car chase, I just wanted to get a feel for this, as I said b4 I will run the whole test to verify.
Both times were under a fresh boot, no other settings changed.
The scores were within reason of each other, and could have been the difference of between any 2 runs.
I have to run out first, but will BBL.
muzz
@skatan
do you use multiplier under 10 for high fsb?
this would explain your perfromance drop @ high fsb!!!!!!!
register e4 and e5 only changes between multiplier 9,5 and 10 and are responsible for the perfomance drop with multiplier under 10. register d5 always changes if any multiplier is changed!!
with multiplier 10 my 8rda+ scales nicely up to 215 fsb sync dual channel with 2422 timings which is the limit for my twinmos pc3200. on my 8k3a+ this ram also doens't go higher.
with my 8rda+ and xp 1800+ tbred @ 10x210fsb sync i get the same 14500 3dmarks i got with the 8k3a+ with an xp2400+ @2368mhz and 190fsb with 2522 1t command and fully tweaked with wpcredit and use of setfsb(no performance drop with setfsb over 185fsb and bios 2312 or 2812 which are the best performer for 8k3a+).same other components are used (geforce 4ti 4400, sb live ....).
look @ this thread and tell me again thta the 8rda+ have a performance drop @ high fsb. i owned the 8kha+ and the 8k3a+ and know what performance drops q high fsb look like;)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&threadid=6664
the 3dmark score in this thread is with my ti4400 @300/650
my xp2400+ 14500 score was with 315/670!!!
Well I just ran at 220x10 , and 177x12.5 ( 12.5 was a little higher overall speed 2224-2210)
My scores for the 2 are as follows:
16058 -12.5x177 2224mhz - according to 3dmark
16579 -10x220 2210mhz -according to 3dmark
I cannot seem to be able to publish the 220mhz score, maybe there were a few memory errors or something I dunno( I had to try it 3 times to get it to finish 3dmark at 220 5-2-2-2 timings).
I looked at the results, and they are very similar, none of that really high score crap that happens when you see a bogus score- on any of the tests.
If I have to drop it down to 215 and whatever to figure this out where both can actually be published then I will, as I know I can publish at 215.
I wasn't going for maximum overclock/score here guys, I was just trying to make everything the same except the fsb.
nout wrong with the 8RDA+ at high speed FSB....
least not for me...
save the score muzz, then you should be able to publish it mate...
I did just that mark - thanks bro, how do I publish after it's saved?..... as a matter of fact I redid it again at 215 x10 ( which if my math is correct is 2150) and beat the higher mhz again(16357), but says I cannot publish ( I've published 215 scores b4..........I'm almost sure of it)and the speed of it is way off, 3dmark online browser says it is 2092 mhz , and unknown processor.
Skatan .. that explains my poor scores at 3dMark. Damn!
Well unless something funky is going on. here are my PUBLISHED results. Multi's and fsb are listed.
My particular setup does not seem to exhibit the Epox slowdown at higher fsb.
1st one is 210x10.5 -2205mhz - says 2215 on the orb
2nd one is 177x12.5 -2224 mhz
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5486253
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5485653
The higher fsb beats it hands down in my testing.
muzz
Welp it looks like the Epox is out of the game then.
I will make this NF7 work:)
OPP
What do ya mean OPP?
Sorry Muzz, didn't even see your results, I stoped reading when SKANTAN posted that the mobo had problem with high FSB:)Quote:
Originally posted by muzz
What do ya mean OPP?
I'll have to check it out then.
OPP
Yep as you can see, It does NOT happen to my setup.
For some high fsb with the 8rda+, read hereQuote:
Originally posted by muzz
Yep as you can see, It does NOT happen to my setup.
--fibo
I'm already involved in that discussion fibo............;)
muzz,
which vga did you use for your little testing? ti4600? clocks/drivers?
Used my 9700p. I dont even know what it's set for, as I never even opened up powerstrip.... prolly stock I would think.
cat2.5 drivers ( 6218)
lol - I know muzz - where are you not involved btw :DQuote:
Originally posted by muzz
I'm already involved in that discussion fibo............;)
--fibo
Hmmmmm is that a slam? ..............;)Quote:
Originally posted by fibonaccov
lol - I know muzz - where are you not involved btw :D
--fibo
Hell no! :)Quote:
Originally posted by muzz
Hmmmmm is that a slam? ..............;)
I can't help it mang.. I have no life right now!!!:D
This chip is unreal, it does 3D Mark at 2930 with only 2.08V :D
OPP
Sweet!!!!
Your talking to a jealous bastard( hey at least I admit it)........ I cannot make my chit go higher than I have posted due to my inferior cooling........ to get to that step it's gonna cost me some bux, and it's hard to justify while I'm still out of work... but I'm trying........
Well at least someone is having fun!!!!
Take'm down OPP!
Hey OPP, have you tried adjusting VDD in BIOS at all? If so has it done anything with regard to high FSB or stability? I know you may not be the best person to ask because you're already not limited by FSB, but it would be nice to see if it helps at all.
On NF7 I use:
Max V-core
Chipset 1.7
AGP 1.8
Mem 2.7
OPP
So when are we going to see some scores at >2900mhz ?Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
This chip is unreal, it does 3D Mark at 2930 with only 2.08V :D
OPP
OPP, whats the deal with the Radeon. I seem to remember you running over 500mhz core and much higher on the mem than 358. Of course that was on Intel which may make a difference. Is it a different card? If not--why don't you push that Raddy some more? break 22k?
a little off topic, but while I'm at it--what tweak program/method do you use to OC your card
Muzz,Quote:
Originally posted by muzz
Well I just ran at 220x10 , and 177x12.5 ( 12.5 was a little higher overall speed 2224-2210)
My scores for the 2 are as follows:
16058 -12.5x177 2224mhz - according to 3dmark
16579 -10x220 2210mhz -according to 3dmark
I cannot seem to be able to publish the 220mhz score, maybe there were a few memory errors or something I dunno( I had to try it 3 times to get it to finish 3dmark at 220 5-2-2-2 timings).
I looked at the results, and they are very similar, none of that really high score crap that happens when you see a bogus score- on any of the tests.
If I have to drop it down to 215 and whatever to figure this out where both can actually be published then I will, as I know I can publish at 215.
I wasn't going for maximum overclock/score here guys, I was just trying to make everything the same except the fsb.
You should pick an overall lower speed say 1600mhz, and run tests in 3mhz intervals from 133 -220. That way you can prove 3DMark scales linearly, without using <10x multipliers. I did pretty much that with my 8K3A+ and didn't bother using over 179fsb after that, as it need 200+ just to beat it without wpcredit tweaks.
disclaimer: only had XMS3000 anyway.
I don't really see the point........... to go to 1600 I would have to drop to 10 and set the fsb to 160......... I don't see the point in that really, as I didn't buy this combo to run way down there. As you see in those 2 tests I did 177 and 210 ( I did 220 and 215 also while keeping around same speeds), and everytime it showed ( to ME at least ) that there wasn't a problem.
I will do a few more to see if it tops out as you say it did on your old board, but I have my doubts it will( I said DOUBTS- not saying it won't... ;) ).
I will do 10.5x179 and skip 5 or so in between.
OK you want to see it scale?
Here ya go... no changes except for the fsb.
Fresh boot everytime.
I did 1 at 175 fsb, but could not be published for some reason the score was 15062
10.5x185 = 15479
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5488534
10.5x195 =15836
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5488575
10.5x205 = 16345
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5488641
10.5x210 =16588
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5486253
Sure looks to me like it scales.......
muzz
Yah thats prety linear. I'd say its a winner. ;)
Sorry, you are correct, you would have to run higher clock to keep away from 9x multi etc.Quote:
Originally posted by muzz
OK you want to see it scale?
Here ya go... no changes except for the fsb.
Fresh boot everytime.
I did 1 at 175 fsb, but could not be published for some reason the score was 15062
10.5x185 = 15479
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5488534
10.5x195 =15836
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5488575
10.5x205 = 16345
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5488641
10.5x210 =16588
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5486253
Sure looks to me like it scales.......
muzz
Your results do look good however. :toast:
Please forgive me guys if have I come off gruff.. that wasn't my intention at all. I just keep hearing people bash Epox because of this issue, and tbo I knew from my testing b4 this that it didn't crap out.
I have never owned an Epox board b4, so I am not aware of what they did b4 this board, except for what I have read by enthusiasts posting, which btw was pretty much that they give crappy BW the higher you go by slacking off on the timings to make themselves look good.
I see no evidence of that happening up to the tested fsb.
I apologize if I have been an ass here.
muzz