there any pure copper chipset coolers out there that will work when having bot vid cards installed? since they overlap the cooler.
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there any pure copper chipset coolers out there that will work when having bot vid cards installed? since they overlap the cooler.
A Vantec Iceberq does the job nicely here, practically the same size as the stock cooler but made of copper. My chipset is currently at 32 degrees @ 1.7v
no clearance usages? if both cards are used?
this the one \?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835110102
I would also like to know what kinds of aftermarket chipset cooling (Air) that people are using that perform better than the dfi chipset cooler while still leaving the ist pci-e slot useable with a video card.
Vantec Iceburq or the standard copper cooler both work fine.
is it this iceberq in the link http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835110103? because that thing doesnt look like it will cool very well at all but neither does the stock chipset heatsink.
Maybe this one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Filter
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835110103
That one will work, I've used that one b4. I actually installed a new one last night:Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
http://img25.echo.cx/img25/6804/spire8gu.jpg
I believe it has the same dimentions as the Vantec Iceberg VGA cooler, but I had to dremel out a bit to avoid an ic on the board.
so both the vantec iceberq and the spire (looks like the iceberq 4) cool better than the stock heatsink?
If you want a block for watercooling this is great
http://www.watercooling.de/catalog/p...ducts_id=27125
The Vantec Iceberq works fine, it is one of the most underrated chipset coolers around and it's been around a long while.
Just make sure you get the copper one, the aluminium one isn't too good.
i'm ordering one up now as we speak.
trying to hit 3ghz and beleive my chipset is getting too hot. 60c+
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=16658
soon i'll have the 3ghz. this is on air.
My chipset seems to top out about 52 load while priming, what kind of temps are u guys getting with the Spire and the Vantec coolers on there? Also I've got an X850XT PE the video card sits right on top of the chipset cooler - it's actually touching it. Also, I wonder what kind of CFM the stock DFI chipset cooler is actually pushing.
Dean
removing the termal pad and using some termal paste with the original cooler is already helping a lot afaik... dont know if a new heatsink is really needed...
well if i'm going to have to rip her off anyway i would rather replace her with a coppersink.
i have replaced the crappy thermal grease with ASC and the temps are around 42C idle with the computer at stock settings. i can only imagine how hot it would get if i were to up the chipset voltage. i would like to improve this temp because i plan strapping my phase change on my system soon. oh and the dfi chipset fan is very loud at 7300rpms.
I haven't got a chance to test my new spire cooler out yet and I don't remember what my Vantec held temps at, but FYI, all the tests on with Venice (on my MSI neo2 plat) was done with the Vantec.Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
Well I have just tried the Vantec Iceberq and the result was temps about 3-4C higher. Its kinda disappointing because the vantec cooler looks much better than the dfi one. Also, the Iceberq (not iceberq 4 or the spire look alike) needed some alteration to the mounting holes to fit the dfi. Maybe I will try the Iceberq 4 if I can make it out to fry's this weekend.
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Originally Posted by babalouj
I ordered one too, maybe Ill send it back
My Team mate dargness has Artic Cooling Freezer 64 modified for chipset, very nice :toast:
http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=280
Pic1
Pic2
I didn't have any probs with the Iceberq when I had it. Temps were definately better and no problem with the holes. My new Spire (which is the same as an iceberq4) however, does need some dremel work to get it so it doesn't touch any smd's on the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by babalouj
That is sweet....any more pics? and what- no fan? :D I want to see pics of his mount..thanxQuote:
Originally Posted by Dani
yeah, I wish they would have placed the chipset in a better location....not that I'm a motherboard engineer or anything so theres probably a definitive reason why it's there, but damn it's hard to put a really good cooler on there since it's right with those slots.....I have the MicroCool northpole chipset cooler and this thing is wicked, but once I go DFI I won't be able to use it :(
I think the chipset placement was a result of DFI's decision to make the RAM slots more accessible by moving them to the top. I had plans of using a swiftech chipset cooler and then I got the board..... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nubius
hmmm...how is it more accessible at the top? Seems just fine over on the right where most socket A boards had them IMO
That is a very ingenious idea. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
How are the temps doing? Also I am guessing it won't work in SLI mode.
I dunno, I read it somewhere :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nubius
Wow- that's great. Any temps?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
Thanks,
CJ
That...is ridiculous. And I want one!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
Seriously, I've been looking for a viable replacement for the chipset fan on my Ultra-D, so this thread is great. The stock cooler isn't bad as they go, but the NF4 just runs hot as hell and that inevitable whining noise really brings out my OCD. I don't want to add any more restriction to my cooling loop (Eheim 1250 driving a TDX, Maze4 GPU, and a 2-199 already), but thanks to the layout I've got virtually no options for an aftermarket hsf cooler.
That Iceberq really didn't work out, eh?
-aMp-
the iceberq didnt work well at all but i think the iceberq4 will do alot better. does everyone that has high chipset temps have a huge video card cooler that blocks the airflow or pushes hot air at the chipset cooler? I ask this because that is why my temps are so high. I installed a zalman vf700cu on my video card and my chipset temps dropped about 7-8C.
were exactly did you dremel it? if is not to much to ask.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
looks great thx.
http://img181.echo.cx/img181/343/spiredremel2ft.jpg
I had to dremel here to clear the crystal. Otherwise, the hsf wouldn't make full contact with the chipset.
what r u guys using? ASC5 or AS paste? I have both, I'm assuming the paste would be better for long term so I dont have to keep re applying ASC5... I wanna apply some before I even start to oc
I use AS5. It's thick enough that it sticks the hsf to the chipset relatively well. BTW, what AS paste?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seriola
AS paste comes with their HSFs... its silicone compound paste, not sure if it even compares to the AS5... but they say to apply it for their HSF
Oh, ok. It doesn't even come close to AS5, but it is better than nothing ;) Use AS5 if you've got it, but if you don't then that stuff will do. Oh, btw, I'm pretty sure that's Arctic Allumina - their value stuff :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Seriola
Weird, I had no problems fitting the Iceberq to mine although it is a tight fit when pushing the pins in, you must make sure they are in the inner recess of the mounting holes. I've got no regrets about using the Iceberq here.Quote:
Originally Posted by babalouj
that is insane, and I am highly considering doing that!Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
is the center just hacked out? or is there more modification than that.
Anymore water blocks for that DFI nF4 chipset besides the one in Germany?
Mine is running dang hot!! 45C @ Tambient 20C, at idle (close case).
A new chipset fan cooler and HS is no option for me with 2 6800 Ultras exhausting hot air over it.
i had to dremel too there, thx! with the iceberq4 my temps went down 5 degrees...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
well that settles it then, im gonna go to frys and get a iceberq4 and return the crappy iceberq.
Temps are here, dont know if he use fan on it...Quote:
Originally Posted by CJ4
http://koti.mbnet.fi/a020171/ScreenHunter_026.gif
How much did you have to dremel? Could it maybe be done with a metal file?
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Originally Posted by thelostrican
very little, dont really need a dremel, you could use a drill, or a nibbler...
I don't like noise very much, so I did something similar to this:
http://img154.echo.cx/img154/5084/zalman6bw6po.jpg
Chipset temps are ~41C idle
P.S. One side of my case is always opened
Anyone find any other chipset waterblocks that will work with this board? Perhaps one with 1/2" fittings? I really don't feel like downsizing my tubing for the one that someone listed here.
Thanks man, i just ordered an iceberq4 :)
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Originally Posted by thelostrican
HK, from where?Quote:
Originally Posted by HKPolice
Any other ready-made sinks that would still fit dual graphics cards (both with big coolers)?
The Zalman NB47J mod doesn't work with big coolers (I've tried) and with dual long PCI-E cards.
Iceberq and the stock DFI fans both whine annoyingly.
Any other options?
Hey thats mine! :toast: You'll get a huge temp drop with some decent airflow, mine idles around 30 degrees.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
And about ZALMAN ZM-NB47J?
http://www.nuxpress.com/admini/immag..._nb47j_c_p.jpg
I MUST change chipset cooler ... with DFI stock cooler at 300x8 I reach 53°-54° :(
I have an ASUS AX800XL and the DFI Ultra-D mobo and the clearance between the chipset and the card is basically 0! The card is touching the chipset fan and sometimes it'll make those weird noises, like when you put your finger in a spinning fan. If the card isn't mounted correctly you could complete stop the chipset fan. So those out there that may be hearing that weird noise or notice you have high chipset temperatures, check to see how close your videocard is to the chipset fan because the fan could be stuck on the card. I really hope I don't have to do any modding to this thing so everything works nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
It's possible to put pci-e card in the second pci-e slot so they don't touch ... I have moved mine X800XL and I have set jumpers to SLI mode so second pci-e works @ 8x without differences in performance :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Techwarrior
Awesome! I didn't know that! Do you have to move the jumpers to SLI mode for it to work @ 8x?Quote:
Originally Posted by XiN
Exactly. In SLI mode both slots works @ 8x and the difference in perfomance between 8x and 16x is about 1%-2% :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Techwarrior
Without moving jumpers, instead, second slot works at 4x (or 2x I don't remember ...)
But that will also not make a performance differnce try it out and you will see..they really dont NEED that much bandwidth...
Dragon
Just a small tid-bit, for those who don't know:
There is a measurable and real performance difference in SELECTED 3D apps between 8x and 16x PCI-E lanes.
In games this is rarely if ever visible, but in certain 3D apps the difference is there.
Just FYI.
What kind of 3D apps? 3D graphics apps?Quote:
Originally Posted by halcyon
I use one but i had to remove some pins, and bend anothers. It's working same temps stock cooler, but dead silent.Quote:
Originally Posted by XiN
The graphics card fits in the middle of the zalman.
That Artic cooling chipset looks awsome, probably will keep temps like 30ºC also!
3D Modelling (pro) apps, but yes some games also show the miniscule performance difference as written above by others:Quote:
Originally Posted by XiN
http://www.tomshardware.de/graphic/2...nalyse-09.html
Is vantec iceberg really better than the stock one????? The stock one looks more beefier.
My max chipset temp is about 45C, that's with room temp over 30C (summer in LA no AC, gotta love it) and under fool load (Prime95 Custom Blend)?
Ok...
MadMikeSS tried moving video card to the other slot and lost significant performance - so it's not worth it. Just finally ripped my rig apart today replaced the chipset cooler with the Vantec Iceberg. Chipset idle now is 34, load 39, about 10 deg lower - oh ya and used AS5 Tim (but I was using that with the stock chipset cooler too).
Anyways heres a look -
http://www.3dxtreme.net/other/ontap/...r/IMG_1222.jpg
aua, and that is so cool' i like it a lot :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
anybody tried the "ICEBERQ 4 PRO" or "ICEBERQ 5"?
They are supposivley better if they can fit.
Looks like very goodQuote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
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Originally Posted by dnottis
hi how about with stock n as5 :toast:
It will help a bit, but get a cooler like my spire or the vantec iceberq4. It holds my chipset to ~35C with chipset @ 1.7V.Quote:
Originally Posted by DjiNN
So far from what I'm seeing the ICEBERQ4 PRO doesn't fit. You need the ICEBERQ4. I just picked one up today and I will try fitting it to motherboard. A lil dremel work must be done but nothing too hardcore. I really need to find my AS5 though.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHiRaKaWa
now i did it as5 n stock cooling... and it seems fact it only 1C :confused:
it was 47 befor as5 an now it is 46 :slapass: :D 270 x4 htt n 1,5 v
A small L shaped heatpipe solution that can be mounted in 3 different directions would solve all problems with heat and placement of chipset on any motherboard.
I was already doing that - wasnt any good.Quote:
Originally Posted by DjiNN
temps were like 40 - 48
Well theres two fingers to those who said it doesnt fit :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
Nice and neat with the power lead too there!
Its 2x. I thought I saw something in the manual that suggested there was a way to jumper the 2nd slot to 16x?Quote:
Originally Posted by XiN
switch the jumpers to SLI and it becomes 8x. no performance hit visible with my x700. infact, I beat my previous 3dmark record with it in this spot. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ewitte
I'm working on that as we speak. I've got an aerocool vgacooler that needs a little work fitting on the chipset....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
Well I just got done installing the Vantec Iceberq4 and my temperatures have gone up atleast 2C!! WTF?! I even applied AS5. I tried reseating the whole thing twice now and the first time my temps almost hit 60C. I don't get it, I thought this thing was supposed to improve temperatures. I also chipped two corners of my chipset when doin' it. I don't think it'll hurt anything, but if I'm unstable at the same settings I'll know why. This really pisses me off! It seems like I've wasted $23 CAD so far. The light looks cool and does go well with my Asus AX800XL. Hmm, maybe the Iceberq4 is taking the hot air exhausted from my graphics card and putting it straight to the chipset. BTW, I'm using MBM5 to monitor temperatures.
EDIT: I'm using 1.6V through chipset. Idle with Iceberq4 is now 50-52C. With the stock is was 48-50C w/o AS5. I'ma try the stock cooler with AS5 in a minute.
Tell us when your done, think im gonna try build one from copperblock and some other stuff just for fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Why would the vantec be so much better ?
In my eyes its the same size ?
i did it like Minstadave but also mounted an amd fan which is plugged in the fan3-connector
works great and is very silent
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=31267&stc=1
I personally don't think anything is wrong with the stock hs, take it off and put some good TIM on it and that should suffice.
It gets very hot with an arctic cooler fitted and spins up after 45 degrees and gets noisey, thats with AS5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Major
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Originally Posted by Minstadave
Yep the fan on it is "winnie"
See if you can't mount an 80mm fan blowing over the area, the nb fan is controlled in bios and also smart guardian. If you can get some cool air blowing towards it you can turn the fan down on the nb so it's not as noticable. IMO if you have good airflow in the case then a passive hs like has been illustrated would work fine too. I've just never had any problems in my case with either of my NF4 and temps. they run around 45c which IMO is normal and under stress get to 50c but I've never had any issues with the temps causing hardware problems.
Im thinking about changeing chipset fan to passive hs cooling. You think its enough ? Im planing to buy old non working gfx card for 1$ and use it on my dfi.
What ya think ?
http://www.allegro.pl/show_item.php?item=52655708
looks nice.
Hah, do you run your motherboard vertically or horizantally? Because that looks very heavy...
Nice mod!
Not heavy at all.. approx. 150grams :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by JDizzle
Running vertically
..or use som parts from an old zalman GPU cooler :banana:
http://forum.hardware.no/index.php?a...ost&id=4520919
looks interesting..... so what are the temps like and how much will it cost?
Let me tell ya that during the summer, the chipset temp is a problem with the 2 6800 ultra breathing hot air onto it. Tambient: 32C Tchipset: 57C at idle. :mad:
Articoc that was very clever solution.
Can you fit SLI with it ?
Its an Freezer thats cut ?
ok ok Vantec Iceberq or Iceberq4 or is this totally not even worth getting and just sticking with stock.... I dont want something too loud....
Yeah! Done :toast:
http://forum.hardware.no/index.php?a...ost&id=4523310
ArcticOC, how did you cut the heatsink fins so cleanly?
very xtreme!!! nicely made :toast:
any improvements in terms of OC?
:slobber: WOW :slobber: ArcticOC, that's REALLY nice work!!!
just want to make sure y'all are aware that in PC health there is a NB fan setting...
@ stock, the thing wont run 100% till its >50C!!!!
make sure you set it so that it runs 100% at >26C
i assume if you use a new HSF but plug it into the NB fan header, it will "under spin" that fan too :nono:
EDIT:
ive replaced the stock TIM with AS5 and run the fan @ 100% .
here are my load temps: :fact:
(room temps were 67F)
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/5...02697ym.th.jpg
http://img346.echo.cx/img346/2438/pict02616xe.th.jpg
(the mem is running on a 5/6 so its @ 250)
I`m going on (alco)hollyday tomorrow :toast: , so the results must whait a while :(
And my screencard i currently in RMA.
I used a circlesaw to cut the cooler.
The cooler won`t let you use SLi, but lets you use any known VGA-cooler
My former cooler will do it in SLi (see sig.)
The cooler was quite simple to bulid :)
Well I'm working on a solution that is easy, cheap, looks cool and hopefully it will cool as well as H2o. I'll post here when all this is confirmed and I have pictures then maybe you will want to duplicate my idea.
Fed up w/ trying all the low profile :banana::banana::banana::banana: , so I grabbed an AL heatsink from digi-key (had it for awhile) bent it up to allow my, err I mean her x700 to fit then epoxied (AS) it onto the chip on my wife's future 'puter, temp after 1 hr of occt is 38c (but it's in the cool basement. Closing the case DROPS the temps from 40c (guess the flow sets up better :D )
Will be bringing it up next week to the 'real world' and see what happens - my target temp is < 45. If needed I can always point an 70-80mm fan there :D
Pics if successful
hi, my first post on Xs :banana:
i live in austria and here it is very hard to find the vantec iceberg cooler and special stuff that dont sells well today i came across this Revoltec vga cooler. it looks exactly like the iceberg.is vantec and revoltec the same company? or are they workling together?
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/580/rs0021rb4kx.th.jpg
what do you guys think will it fit on the lanparty ut nf4? anybody running this setup? the mounting holes sould be fine -right? do i need to get aditional screws and nuts for assembling? i remember a post here at xs where somebody said he had to dremel his vantec iceberg, i will look that up later.
thx and sorry for my bad english