Looks like macci has been busy.
http://www.hexus.net/
First news article on there, more details HERE
15k didnt last long did it :)
Another excellent job macci!
G
PS apologies if this has been posted already.
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Looks like macci has been busy.
http://www.hexus.net/
First news article on there, more details HERE
15k didnt last long did it :)
Another excellent job macci!
G
PS apologies if this has been posted already.
Just came back from the Barcelona-trip :toast:
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/...20/15738_f.PNG
:D
Dryice cooling only - no cascade as they mentioned at Hexus
I'll shoot for 16k in a day or two :D
Wow that was you? Proprietry cooling? :)
Amaizing is the only word that comes to mind. The aritcle said they gave you 2. Care to donate to the poor :D
ill take it! lol.
macci is it fairly phucking fast?? :D
Most impressive macci, congrats.
Card was unmodded??
Macci, congras! also you got 33.7k on a 2.4GHz pentium 4! I have told the guys over at futuremark but they dont believe me! I am right with my 40k predictions with a x800xt if someone uses a proper a64! macci, do you have a screenshot of the 2001 scores? id like to know how it did in the game tests, especially in nature!
O M G, where did Macci get a x800xt!!! And he is only using a 2.4a prescott it looks like too. Congratulations very nice score, i think these new video cards will make 3dmark03 work like 3dmark2001 lol.
yea he broke 33.7k on a 2.4GHz p4. imagine a 3.2GHz a64! 45k in 2001 probably
Ti4200, the 33484 was done on a A64 @3G and with X800Pro (12pipe) @696/560 or so and old beta drivers on WinXP system. Nature was 252 or so.
With the X800XT @714/630 or so the 2001 Nature is around 309FPS :D
:owned:Quote:
Originally posted by macci
Ti4200, the 33484 was done on a A64 @3G
Only 7500 points to fullfill prediction
hey macci did u ever overclock with default cooling to see what it would do?
Wow, you can add over 1k for just the Nature score. I wonder what a few mods would do?
so am I right in saying a stock x800 pro would match your 9800xt at 640/465 clocks? you get 252fps overclocked. I am estimating 190-210fps on a stock x800 pro. this would make 30k or more possible with a stock x800 pro and a 3GHz plus a64, right? how does it do in dragothic and car low? also when can the orb accept scores from those x800 cards?
Macci when can u get a Geforce 6800 ultra?
Quote:
Originally posted by I²K
Only 7500 points to fullfill prediction
Ti4200, the 33484 was done on a A64 @3G and with X800Pro (12pipe) @696/560 or so and old beta drivers on WinXP system. Nature was 252 or so.
not bad and its just a x800 pro too! 2.5k higher than his 31k record he got with the 9800xt on a slower cpu than the 31k record run too. also windows xp and old drivers hurt performance. over 35k should be easy with win 2k and newer drivers. as for the x800xt, it should be about 5k higher than the x800 pro cause its 16 pipes and higher clocks. It was getting about 60fps higher in nature plus similar increases in car low and both dragothics. I still stand by my 40k prediction :D
I don't know what to say first ....Quote:
Originally posted by macci
Ti4200, the 33484 was done on a A64 @3G and with X800Pro (12pipe) @696/560 or so and old beta drivers on WinXP system. Nature was 252 or so.
With the X800XT @714/630 or so the 2001 Nature is around 309FPS :D
OK,
:toast:
Fantastic
That's the easy part, I'll list the rest
1) Have you got a screen print of 3dmark01 run ?
2) The XT overclocks well with cold temps .. other sites using air cooling got 30-50Mhz you get almost 200Mhz with extreme cold .. was it stock voltage ?
3) Did you get a feel for how memory helped the score, ie is it bandwidth restricted or is it mainly gpu based still ?
4) Can you give us background on how you were invited to Barcelona, as one of the top overclockers, I am sure I would not be alone in being interested in this.
5) With the power of the Ati X800XT did you notice more cpu power coming into play within GT2 GT3 and, possibly, 4 ?
6) Will you be testing GF 6800 now or are you now Ati forever :) ( see 4 above )
I find the massive overclock very impressive ..... once again :toast:
Regards
Andy
PS forgot to mention
7) 300+ fps nature very nice :D
2) The XT overclocks well with cold temps .. other sites using air cooling got 30-50Mhz you get almost 200Mhz with extreme cold .. was it stock voltage ?
I want to know this too. what is the stock volts, did you vmod it, if yes to what volts and how is the vmod done? If you do not want to tell anyone the secret to the vmod, I respect this ;)
thats nice
nice to see the man at work:D 116fps in GT2 ugh that's damn fast:)
:slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
OMG
What to say Macci but Congrats!!!!. Sweet score!
Verry nice job!
//Gabbax
WOW MACCI ! thats insane.... :hehe:
wow, that's just awesome
Wow Macci very nice scores, those cards can really clock:toast:
Looking good!!
OPP
I still want to know whever a volt mod was done.
It is a TSMC low K 0.13 process so you wouldn't imagine reducing ther temp that much on its own would produce that good a result.
But 180Mhz overclock is amazing on just reducing temps with such an "out of the blocks" card .. I am slightly baffled.
Regards
Andy
Nice! :slobber: So what about 6800U? :toast:
Kickass thats for sure.
Stopming all over Nvidia, Macci did you play with the 6800U at all?
Macci,
Can you not publish this scores for some reason?
OPP
Probably not until the card is released to the general public...
wow, this is certainly something to aim for :)
and they all said that 600mhz on the core is 0.13 process limit :D
i assume it's not vmodded yet, right ? if so, did u find vddr mod yet as vgpu seems to be exaclty same as on 9800xt?
waiting for some 3dm01 screeen action now,
congratulations, macci :toast:
IF 600MHZ IS THE LIMIT FOR .13 PROCESS, wahts the deal with teh 675mhz clocks on .15? lol
(sorry for caps.. lock was on)
maybe at aircooling :D not below 0 ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Evil_Spork
IF 600MHZ IS THE LIMIT FOR .13 PROCESS, wahts the deal with teh 675mhz clocks on .15? lol
(sorry for caps.. lock was on)
macci have you found vmods yet?
What a great time that must have been. I wish I could've went!
according to pics i've seen, vgpu mod is exactly same as on r9800xt... so we only need to find vddr one and we're set :DQuote:
Originally posted by EmineM
macci have you found vmods yet?
Nice scores Macci... :thumbsup:
I bet he's tweaking the stuff right now... I too wonder if he has an 6800U to play with :D
Editin and uploading pics etc at the moment.
Here is something for starters:
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/...il_x800pro.gif
And yes ORB wont let me publish the scores yet.
Ever thought about these words before you wrote them down?? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
Macci, congras! also you got 33.7k on a 2.4GHz pentium 4!
Bet they gave Macci a few to play with. `Here take these home and mod the dancing babanas out of it`. Jeez I also want to be cool Maybe one day...
Looking very sweet.. I´ll bet there´s more juice in em´ somewhere :)
Geforceti4200 --> Do us ALL a small favor by actually thinking bout´ the things you say.. Otherwise you´ll just look stupid.
dude...... that is just so nice
i gotta ask,
what does one have to do to get so that people will just give u free stuff like that :slobber:
Breaking 2 3dmark WR´s among other things?
I'm confused.Quote:
Originally posted by macci
Just came back from the Barcelona-trip :toast:
Dryice cooling only - no cascade as they mentioned at Hexus
I'll shoot for 16k in a day or two :D
The ati press release is talking about a overclocked P4. That would probably get a high score as well, but I'm curious as to why there's a setfsb utility on your desktop that's used for nforce3 exclusively.
Did ATi did not like nVidia having a hand in "their" (read: your) score?
http://www.yoaliens3000.com/upload/sss.gif
Look what Jason got so far! I had predicted he will break 38k, everyone laughed at me, but I am right :banana: also Macci, your nature fps is very low. Jason's x800 pro is at 550MHz core and hes 5fps shy of your 700MHz core. He could break 300fps on his x800 pro!!!!!!
Sarcastro,
Mark03 was all P4 stuff. I tried with A64 on NF3 but got clearly lower scores for some reason (GT1 was better on AMD, GT2-4 better on Intel - the difference in Nature for instance was around 10FPS!!).
If you look closely there is also CLockgen for IC7 series on the screenshot :D
I used the same WinXP installation for both platforms (I even had the NF3 chipset and nVidia display drivers installed on that system).
Here is a little pic gallery/article I just put together. For your viewing pleasure :D
YEa my X800Pro run on A64 mobo might have been very unoptimal - the OS was full of drivers - AMD and Intel and ATI and nVidia etc :DQuote:
also Macci, your nature fps is very low.
But I think that this one is quite ok :D
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/.../nature_xt.gif
Yeah i noticed 03 tends to favor the P4 for some reason.
Maybe something has been pushed to far and ended up slowering down core clock or memory can do this, temds to be the memory clock mind.Quote:
Originally posted by macci
YEa my X800Pro run on A64 mobo might have been very unoptimal - the OS was full of drivers - AMD and Intel and ATI and nVidia etc :D
But I think that this one is quite ok :D
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/.../nature_xt.gif
i realize numbers are abstract, or maybe you posted the wrong pic, but how did you get 32.8k = 38k?Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
http://www.yoaliens3000.com/upload/sss.gif
Look what Jason got so far! I had predicted he will break 38k, everyone laughed at me, but I am right :banana: also Macci, your nature fps is very low. Jason's x800 pro is at 550MHz core and hes 5fps shy of your 700MHz core. He could break 300fps on his x800 pro!!!!!!
God Ti4200, can you just stop with your damn predictions? Really, no one cares. Until you get a 38k by yourself, stop predicting this and that... jesus.
As for macci, good lord thats sweet!
Quote:
Originally posted by gokickrocks
i realize numbers are abstract, or maybe you posted the wrong pic, but how did you get 32.8k = 38k?
Jasons x800 pro is still air cooled and he has not maxed out his fsb, ram nor cpu. Hes got another 150MHz clocks on his x800xt that hes gonna hit once he superchills it. He gains about 1k marks per 30MHz overclock on the gpu. 150MHz should gain him 4 or 5k more and another 1k more from his cpu. my 38k estimate was quite conservative too.
glad to see u got ahold of these beasty x800's macci :D nice job man, these cards are awesome.
Nice work, i think ill start saving for one now :)
I think we all will...BUT...the race has only begun, and we haven't seen the results from the other side of the fence.Quote:
Originally posted by kommando
Nice work, i think ill start saving for one now :)
mhh well lets wait for nvidia cards, as i heard they will be alittle cheaper and they have ps 3.0 :D. don´t forget that. the x800xt is only another r300 but this time with 16 pipes and higher clocks. don´t think will be worth the money as long as nvidias card reaches the same speed:rolleyes:
The XT seems to do a lot better with AA and AF, and I would get it over the 6800 ultra for that reason even if the Nvidia benches a bit higher. AA and AF is where its at in games.
i wouldnt mind having one of those cards. unbelieveable scores.
Its kind of useless for game manf's to implement PS/VS 3.0 code when only one line of video cards will be capable of using it..
next gen is where we will see it. I believe that was the hint behind the Unreal 3 release date :/
well that doesnt really make it worthless... its kinda a good idea to me. If i got a 6800 id keep it for atleast 2 gen's . :cool:
Quote:
Originally posted by macci
Sarcastro,
Mark03 was all P4 stuff. I tried with A64 on NF3 but got clearly lower scores for some reason (GT1 was better on AMD, GT2-4 better on Intel - the difference in Nature for instance was around 10FPS!!).
If you look closely there is also CLockgen for IC7 series on the screenshot :D
I used the same WinXP installation for both platforms (I even had the NF3 chipset and nVidia display drivers installed on that system).
Here is a little pic gallery/article I just put together. For your viewing pleasure :D
Thanks, that explains it all. So you just built in a little headroom? :D
Nice pictures, I especially like
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/...es/r420/b1.jpg
that's a like a doctor visiting a sick patent .. everything for lightness ( assume dual cascade system would have got stuck on the baggage conveyor belt at the airport). As Fugger mentionedf before when he was showing off his and Chilly's P4 EE at a show, doing this at home is one thing, doing it in a difereent environment is another ..lots of things to consider . So even more kudus for this !
Why the trupower and not the trucontrol ..or is it modded ?
Have you gone to OCZ EB and left your old 2-5-2-2 BH5 stuff behind ???
Like the briefing documents .. now those are the type of documents I could spend hours leafing through.
The actual 2001 scores are actually not that impressive if you consider the vpu core overclock looks like ATi definitely moving on to shader power and leaving texture power behind, hence the fantastic 03 result. They say nvidia favour old sttyle textures still, ie 2001 !
Nice to know that cpu's now make a difference in 03, getting to be like 2001 is, a system test. Shame it favours intel though considering latest offereings from Intel and AMD
The worse, most expensive, case scenario is that you need AMD and nvidia for 2001 and Intel and ATi for 03 :eek:
Well that's only $1500+ of course, plus a small amount for X800XT and 6800U Extreme ..
Cough,
Regards
Andy
Andy,
As far as 2001 goes I think that ATI will be a bit stronger there (according to Hexus review for instance).
The reason why the score improvement in % is nowhere near the Mark03 jump is the fact that its so system speed limited test now.
On normal systems (lets say 3.5GHz P4 and down) only Nature test is not 100% system speed limited. Clocking my X800XT card from 525/575 to 555/575 only gave an improvement of 92Marks (and all came from Nature)!
We need 3.5GHz A64s with huge bandwidht to see the real power of these cards in 2001 :D
I've been useing the 3.3V modded Truepower for a while now and it has done the job nicely.Quote:
Why the trupower and not the trucontrol ..or is it modded ?
Have you gone to OCZ EB and left your old 2-5-2-2 BH5 stuff behind ???
I have loads of BH5 left - was just testing the OCZ stuff. Both are very good. OCZ runs better with lower voltage.
btw, pic from the ATI booth:
http://www.muropaketti.com/sampsa/ku..._launch/07.jpg
(pic by Sampsa of Muropaketti.com)
Love the beers :)
I killed an Abit Kv8 MAX3 when I span in my chair quickly and some beer flew out of the glass and landed on the board which was sitting on the floor doing a bench :rolleyes:
"Clocking my X800XT card from 525/575 to 555/575 only gave an improvement of 92Marks (and all came from Nature)!"
Sigh, oh dear, I hear the bells ringing in the distance and a knocking at the door from a hand that is bone not flesh....
Regards
Andy
omFg dude, that is just plain sickness ... :D
thinking of my 209 3DMark03 score on my GeForce 2 pro right now ... :)
what are u trying to say? 3dmark01 is on its way out?
Sadly yes :(Quote:
Originally posted by r3b0rN
what are u trying to say? 3dmark01 is on its way out?
When you go from 525Mhz core to 700+ which is 30% and you get a 10% increase the writing is on the wall.
Which is a shame as you cannot stop 3dmark03 between games and it only has 4 tests not 8 so does not show as well differences in cpu, FSB and gpu speeds in the overall nature of things.
Why is there not a GT1,2 and 3 high and low in 03 ?
Maybe need to email worm.
Regards
Andy
Yeah I agree with you zakelwe but in the same light 03 is too GFX intensive. Okay I know it is a GFX benching tool but the reason why I still love 2001 is it has a great blend of CPU/FSB and GFX benchmarking.
01 it is more `tweakable` than 03 and takes more skill to get higher scores IMO. Maybe I`m missing something but 01 is still my best benchmarking program :up:
yup, wait till Macci gets those things on triple phase cascade at his house! then we'll probably see some exciting action.
yeah true zakelwe... but we are seeing possibilities of whole system clocks helping with 03 now that we have such awesome video cards. and just like u somewhat mentioned, i too think 03 could be improved if they released an 03 SE which allowed you to stop during tests and also had low tests which focused more on whole system specs.
heh. i cant wait to see what those cardsll do with some nice die cooling
I agree. 03 isnt going to let us test our whole systems the way it is set up right now. We all love 01 because of how it tests everything like CPU speed, FSB, memory timings, memory bandwidth, etc. 03 just doesnt do that the same way 01 does. Its definetly time for 3dmark2004 that does.
Awesome macci. Can't get my hands on one finally will be able to beat OPP's FX-51 score :D
FM is making new 3DMark as we speak optimised for DX9.0C most probably will be ready once M$ announces there new DX. Patric from FM was hinting it's not gonna be just a patch but the whole new benchmark.
What happened? :DQuote:
Originally posted by QuadDamage
FM is making new 3DMark as we speak optimised for DX9.0C most probably will be ready once M$ announces there new DX. Patric from FM was hinting it's not gonna be just a patch but the whole new benchmark.
When they made 3D03 they said it would be the benchmark for Future Graphics cards, they made it tough so they wouldn't have to make a new one soon. I guess not it wasn't tough enough:D
OPP
They made '03 Futureproof, they just didn't make it Nvidia proof....;)Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
What happened? :D
When they made 3D03 they said it would be the benchmark for Future Graphics cards, they made it tough so they wouldn't have to make a new one soon. I guess not it wasn't tough enough:D
OPP
LoL the nerve of nvidia always trying to sneak those drivers in every version
stopping between tests would be a big plus, yes, that's another of 03 limitations that mean it is not as much fun ....Quote:
Originally posted by r3b0rN
yeah true zakelwe... but we are seeing possibilities of whole system clocks helping with 03 now that we have such awesome video cards. and just like u somewhat mentioned, i too think 03 could be improved if they released an 03 SE which allowed you to stop during tests and also had low tests which focused more on whole system specs.
Regrads
Andy
Well I hope the new benchmarks put things on the right track so we test our systems to the fullest.
But it makes for a easy bench. You just turn it on and walk away hoping when you get back you made through. Benchmarking made simple:DQuote:
Originally posted by zakelwe
stopping between tests would be a big plus, yes, that's another of 03 limitations that mean it is not as much fun ....
Regrads
Andy
OPP
ya i hate 3dmark01 for that. in order to get a really nice score and good run u have to baby it through and i hate that, plus u watch it worrying its going to drop to desk or BSOD. so much nicer to be able to walk away and forget about itQuote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
But it makes for a easy bench. You just turn it on and walk away hoping when you get back you made through. Benchmarking made simple:D
OPP
Wow. Impressive. Looks like the new generation of cards has shifted the performance bottleneck back to the cpu (even highly overclocked A64s).
ya its hard to fill 16 pipes of 715mhz GPU even with a 3ghz+ A64 .... so dayem nice :toast:
I think with the new graphiccards we'll a trunover.Quote:
Originally posted by PCBliss
I agree. 03 isnt going to let us test our whole systems the way it is set up right now. We all love 01 because of how it tests everything like CPU speed, FSB, memory timings, memory bandwidth, etc. 03 just doesnt do that the same way 01 does. Its definetly time for 3dmark2004 that does.
Excellent benches Macci. Like was said earlier in this post, looks like this summer is going to be quite interesting as more and more people get their hands on these new video cards. Can't wait to see how high this next push goes.
I have a n00b question, how do you get the clocks higher with Ati tool already maxed out?
That's pretty radical ! Could even leave the room and go talk to my wife I guess.Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
But it makes for a easy bench. You just turn it on and walk away hoping when you get back you made through. Benchmarking made simple:D
OPP
No, I'm still not sold ;)
:D
Regards
Andy
Yeah, that's true but not always, there are things you can do;)Quote:
But it makes for a easy bench. You just turn it on and walk away hoping when you get back you made through. Benchmarking made simple
Ooh I hate that sort of inside info I am not party to .... :p:Quote:
Originally posted by Hiwayman
Yeah, that's true but not always, there are things you can do;)
I'd really like to be able to stop the bench after GT1 on 03 for instance. Maybe when I get to be a member of the StoneCutters , like Homer did, I will find out :)
Who controls the British Crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do, we do.
Who keeps Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We do, we do.
Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star?
We do, we do.
Who robs cave fish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do, we do!
Who can stop 3dmark03 in it's tracks
Give it something it presently lacks
We do, we do!
Regards
Hom, er Andy
its not maxed out :DQuote:
Originally posted by Revv23
I have a n00b question, how do you get the clocks higher with Ati tool already maxed out?
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/...20/atitool.gif
it will automatically extend the clock range when needed
you think Pro will be moddable to XT? stupid question i know
Thats a good question and I think we will find out soon.. (once RivaTuner is updated? :D)
I'd guess it is possible..
Not at all stupid. Probably the biggest asked question right now as the X800PRO is coming out before the XT.Quote:
Originally posted by Peen
you think Pro will be moddable to XT? stupid question i know
Macci clever marketing by ATI to use you to promote the card IMO as the 6800UE is currently faster than the XT @ default speed in 2003. Although it is faster it`ll be nice to see what a 6800UE can clock to....
From what I've seen the 6800ue is not much more than a marketing ploy. Basically just an overclocked 6800u. While I'm sure some will buy the card, why not just buy the ultra instead and overclock it yourself?
Same can be said for the X800XT PE. GT vs Ultra too with 50Mhz less on core and mem but one Molex and $100 less?