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E6300 ES @ P5W DH Benchmarks
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good work ;) :toast: keep it up :D
think you're gonna watch Deutschland - Sverige as well?
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Originally Posted by FischOderAal
think you're gonna watch Deutschland - Sverige as well?
of course :toast: :woot: we must win and we do win..
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nice work i think i will be getting a E6300
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would be nice to know ,what thr rest off your system is?did you find anything out with the vcore yet?
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well, he has:
Asus P5W DH
G.Skill DDR2 F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ
dunno what GFX and Power :confused:
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nice start
:toast:
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Originally Posted by FischOderAal
well, he has:
Asus P5W DH
G.Skill DDR2 F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ
dunno what GFX and Power :confused:
X1900?
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Graphics card
Manufacturer HIS
Model X1900XTX Dual DL-DVI VIVO :D
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are there any english reviews on the E6300 with the 2mb cache because al the E6300 ES have 4mb cache
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Originally Posted by vanovich
would be nice to know ,what thr rest off your system is?did you find anything out with the vcore yet?
E6300 ES 2 MB
Asus P5W DH
HIS X1900XTX 765/900
F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ
Enermax Liberty 620
or here
no, the vcore problem is still here....
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Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal
nice start
:toast:
X1900?
thx. :D
yes x1900xtx
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Originally Posted by matt89
are there any english reviews on the E6300 with the 2mb cache because al the E6300 ES have 4mb cache
my 6300 have 2 mb. all 6300 have 2mb. some 6400 ES 4 MB
you see. my 6300 @ 400 fsb. but not really stable. only a short 1M. I NEED VCORE!!!!!!!!!!
http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/2350/1997bz.jpg
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your english sucks...;) but your results rock!:slobber:
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ohok so its a pretty nice cpu then
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Originally Posted by Dave DEF
your english sucks...;) but your results rock!:slobber:
i know... :( english reading is good, but writing :mad:
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can you get any results in games and do you have anything to compare the scores against
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F.E.A.R. Benchmark? or which game? i don´t have quake or so.
nothing to compare. the old system (pentium 4 650 @ 4.1) is demounted.
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some fear results would be good
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is this retail or es cpu?
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Originally Posted by matt89
are there any english reviews on the E6300 with the 2mb cache because al the E6300 ES have 4mb cache
E6300 with 2mb cache. Please use a translator
http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/evalu...05/791941.html
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If its not too much of a bother...I do not want to be too much of a bother... is it possible to run prime95 or another app in its place then, use a program called speedfan to show what kind of vdroop it has? Nothing fancy or complex...
All you do is tab over to charts click on vcore (I believe) and then run prime95 (for example).
Thanks for the information you provided this community so far. Its very helpful indeed.
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now you got the vcore working ,whats the highest fsb stable on that mb?looking good so far
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Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
If its not too much of a bother...I do not want to be too much of a bother... is it possible to run prime95 or another app in its place then, use a program called speedfan to show what kind of vdroop it has? Nothing fancy or complex...
All you do is tab over to charts click on vcore (I believe) and then run prime95 (for example).
Thanks for the information you provided this community so far. Its very helpful indeed.
no problem:
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/2793/spped5hf.th.gif
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Originally Posted by vanovich
now you got the vcore working ,whats the highest fsb stable on that mb?looking good so far
over 400 mhz i must set MCH voltage to 1.6 V. over 425 mhz fsb windows won´t boot. no matter what vcore or MCH voltage.
i have two problems and i hope to find a solution:
1. i can´t set RAM 1:1 over 400 MHz FSB
2. when i shutdown the pc with windows, the pc power off, but after 3-4 sec it power on automatically.
any idea?
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Originally Posted by webwilli
Thank you very much. Now that I know that vdroop is not an issue without mods I think this is enough redemption to value a second look towards purchase :toast:
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I think kyosen said awhile back that Vdroop wasn't that bad on this board. I've been running the P5W DH for about a day now and like it a lot more than the Bad Axe. It just feels a lot tighter. I think clock-for-clock it's faster than the Bad Axe, though I would have to do more testing to confirm this. Using Tuniq Tower 120 at the moment.
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8809/32m38942gh.th.jpg
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I've heard that this board is faster clock/clock than the badaxe a couple times now, but in both P5W-DH previews the FSB topped out at 425, while the badaxe seems to go to 450. Maybe it's the mods that make the difference?
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hi sierra_bound,
have you the shutdown problem too?
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when i shutdown the pc with windows, the pc power off, but after 3-4 sec it power on automatically.
thanks
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Yes, mods would definitely make a difference. Kyosen was gotten his board up to 450 FSB. I'm sure he will go higher.
I may be wrong about this, but I feel the Bad Axe is a little deceptive. Although people have gotten great results with that board, I'm wondering whether the FSB and CPU speeds are really reflected accurately in the SuperPi times.
I never had any problem with VCore options with the Asus board. They were all there, even on the shipping BIOS.
The only really annoying feature of the board is one it shares with the Bad Axe. The board will power down for a few seconds after you save any major changes in the BIOS, then power up again.
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Originally Posted by webwilli
hi sierra_bound,
have you the shutdown problem too?
thanks
Hi. I don't have that particular problem. My board only shuts down temporarily after saving changes in BIOS.
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no not the shutdown bug in bios or after windows reboot.
when i end my work. windows xp: klick on start -> shutdown computer. board power down, but restarts after a few seconds. it is tricky to get the system down :(
no matter what fsb...
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No, I haven't seen that problem. When I shut down using start button, it stays shut down.
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curious...
i use bios 0504
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I'm using 065 BIOS. Haven't tried 504 yet. Has anyone else experienced that problem?
The board has a lot of nice features that I will probably never use, like built-in Wi-Fi. The 8-phase power design is also nice.
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i hope anyone can help me :(
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Does it do this every time you shut down via Windows? Also, have you had this problem with every BIOS you've tried? I wondering if it's something other than the motherboard. Maybe PSU?
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I can only suggest that you check your molex, 24-pin and 8 or 4 pin 12v connection. Then check to make sure the standoff and board is not making contact creating a short. For example, having an extra stand off screwed down to the MB tray making contact with the MB itself. I know for a fact that what you explain can happen under this kind of conditions. However, that's not the ONLY reason. You may also need to look at:
-bad board (bios, etc)
-defectiver cpu
-bad psu
-bad ram can do this too
The possibilities are endless. I can only give you my experience which is only 1 example with an old board.
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Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Does it do this every time you shut down via Windows? Also, have you had this problem with every BIOS you've tried? I wondering if it's something other than the motherboard. Maybe PSU?
Lot of latest intel mobo does it. (Even not conroe ones such as Asus Premium one I had, etc). It seems to be new requirements from intel specification...? Kind of bothersome with phase unit with controllers. (I know froster has new firmware coming out soon... I mentioned it to developer while back)
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Hi Jin. His problem is different. When he ends a session and shuts down in Windows, the PSU turns off, but then comes on again. It shouldn't do that. That's different than the PSU shutting off temporarily during reboots or after making BIOS changes.
And yes, the temporary shutdown after a BIOS change is annoying with SS units that have controllers. I speak from personal experience. :)
One other thing worth trying is reseating the CPU. I've found that when these LGA775 processors are not latched down properly, you can have problems.
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Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Does it do this every time you shut down via Windows? Also, have you had this problem with every BIOS you've tried? I wondering if it's something other than the motherboard. Maybe PSU?
yes every time. i tried 0502 and 0504. tomorrow i will test all versions. my psu is a enermax liberty 620. work well on a p5wd2 premium
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Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
I can only suggest that you check your molex, 24-pin and 8 or 4 pin 12v connection. Then check to make sure the standoff and board is not making contact creating a short. For example, having an
extra stand off screwed down to the MB tray making contact with the MB itself. I know for a fact that what you explain can happen under this kind of conditions. However, that's not the ONLY reason. You may also need to look at:
-bad board (bios, etc)
-defectiver cpu
-bad psu
-bad ram can do this too
The possibilities are endless. I can only give you my experience which is only 1 example with an old board.
i will check all cables tomorrow. no extra standoff. i think the standoff are ok. in a few days i will buy a watercooler for the pwm and so i check all standoff.
psu is liberty 620. 3 month old.
ram will tested tomorrow
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Originally Posted by sierra_bound
One other thing worth trying is reseating the CPU. I've found that when these LGA775 processors are not latched down properly, you can have problems.
but the system runs fine. only this shutdown problem. but i also check this suggestion. :D
one thing i find out:
i press the power button 4 sec in windows boot menu, system goes down but restart after a few sec.
i press the power button in bios menu, the system goes down AND it is still off.
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Originally Posted by sierra_bound
The only really annoying feature of the board is one it shares with the Bad Axe. The board will power down for a few seconds after you save any major changes in the BIOS, then power up again.
interesting even DFI CFX3200-DR does that but that is due to DFI implementing it as a workaround for RD580 chipsets issue of not resetting HTT strap when you overclock the HTT Bus too far for s939 platform. Maybe intel is doing it to ensure settings changed in bios stay changed on reboot ?
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The Asus board has an interesting way of setting the N/B strap. You dial in the FSB frequency, then you choose from a menu of memory ratios/frequencies which have already been adjusted according to the FSB you selected. This is a nice feature because you don't have to calculate the memory frequency in your head.
The temporary shutdown feature is annoying because if your SS controller uses the same PSU, it will turn off the condenser when it shuts down the board for a few seconds. The only way around this is to put the controller on a seperate PSU. I have a spare PSU which I may utilize for this purpose.
Aside from that one thing, I'm really enjoying this board. It just feels more solid than the Bad Axe. And as I mentioned earlier, I have a feeling it's faster clock-for-clock than the Intel board.
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interesting glad my Kayl Black Frozen SS doesn't use such a controller - straight mains power :D
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so 2.7 ghz on stock voltage? this might be the chip for me!!!!! how much do these cost again?
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The board is available in some parts of Europe and Asia, but not in the US yet. One American e-tailer had it listed for $260. Pre-order only.
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Originally Posted by tvdang7
so 2.7 ghz on stock voltage? this might be the chip for me!!!!! how much do these cost again?
DailyTech say $US 183 at launch. Dunno if thats 1000 unit quantities or retail.
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That can't be the retail price. The P5WD2-E Premium which has fewer features than this board sells for $240-260.
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probably P5B at US$183 not P5W
pre-order price for P5B in OZ is AUD$299 versus P5W Deluxe AUD$400-455
AUD$1 = US$0.732 right now
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Originally Posted by eva2000
probably P5B at US$183 not P5W
pre-order price for P5B in OZ is AUD$299 versus P5W Deluxe AUD$400-455
AUD$1 = US$0.732 right now
So which Conroe board are you getting Eva2000?
And where from?
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Originally Posted by MnM
So which Conroe board are you getting Eva2000?
And where from?
OCAU sponsor CA http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...5&postcount=23 Adam to the rescue :)
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Originally Posted by eva2000
probably P5B at US$183 not P5W
pre-order price for P5B in OZ is AUD$299 versus P5W Deluxe AUD$400-455
AUD$1 = US$0.732 right now
lool I was refering to the Core 2 Duo E6300, not the mobos ... sorry for confusion >:)
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the mobos are pretty expensive
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So is this the board to get for Conroe based system ?
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The BIOS still needs maturing. For example, it doesn't run the 4:5 ratio as well as I would like. But all my DDR2 pairs run with no problems on this board.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...32m38344-5.jpg
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Originally Posted by eva2000
So do you know when they are supposed to be coming in?
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conflicting info, some retails say within days.. disty says 1st week of July..
EDIT: okay within days is 1st week of July hehe
my 2x E6600 Step 5 QPGE conroes arrived today ! just need some boards LOL
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I've read a lot of places they will be coming out this week. The 28th or so.
http://www.jncs.com/php/showdetail.p...d=mb-as-p5w-dh
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hm... another german user with the windows-shutdown-problem.
configuration:
Bios 0504
INTEL EE955
x1900 crossfire
Geil 667
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could shut down issue be crossfire and/or psu related ?
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I wonder if it has something to do with the boards shipped to Germany. Hard to say at this point because there are so few users. Some Europeans were also having issues with the VCore setting in the BIOS. My board came from Asia and I never had a problem with VCore. Even with shipping BIOS (401), all the VCore settings up to 1.7v were accessible.
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where did you get your cpus from eva
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Originally Posted by matt89
where did you get your cpus from eva
confidential :)
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Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Yes, mods would definitely make a difference. Kyosen was gotten his board up to 450 FSB. I'm sure he will go higher.
I may be wrong about this, but I feel the Bad Axe is a little deceptive. Although people have gotten great results with that board, I'm wondering whether the FSB and CPU speeds are really reflected accurately in the SuperPi times.
I never had any problem with VCore options with the Asus board. They were all there, even on the shipping BIOS.
The only really annoying feature of the board is one it shares with the Bad Axe. The board will power down for a few seconds after you save any major changes in the BIOS, then power up again.
Hi. I don't have that particular problem. My board only shuts down temporarily after saving changes in BIOS.
my aopen does that as well maybe its a chipset thing.
ibby
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Are you talking about the temporary shutdown thing or Webwilli's problem?
The Bad Axe board shuts down temporarily too, especially after you change the ratio in the BIOS. That's by design. I think it gives the board time to adjust to the new strap.
The feature will probably freak out people who've never used the 975X chipset before. When their PSU shuts off, they'll think their board just died.
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Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Are you talking about the temporary shutdown thing or Webwilli's problem?
The Bad Axe board shuts down temporarily too, especially after you change the ratio in the BIOS. That's by design. I think it gives the board time to adjust to the new strap.
The feature will probably freak out people who've never used the 975X chipset before. When their PSU shuts off, they'll think their board just died.
i had that scare with Abit AW8D too heh but if i had cpu fan header connected no shut downs (when on g4 storm water)..
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Originally Posted by eva2000
could shut down issue be crossfire and/or psu related ?
he also have an enermax liberty 620. interesting. i have no other here. just a liberty 400... f**k...
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For what it's worth, I'm using a 600W PowerStream that I've had for a long time. I've used it on numerous boards and it's never let me down.
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i´m using this liberty since feb 2006 and it work perfect. but with the p5w dh it is possibly a problem.
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whats the max vcore and FSB on this board ?
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and vMem (to continue on from Devious)
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They are in stock in Sweden now. My board is about to be shipped :)
-k0nsl
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Originally Posted by MnM
So do you know when they are supposed to be coming in?
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God, i really need to know the Max FSB this board can do !!
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I missed this somewhere on the way : what is the max standard Vdimm of the Asus P5W ?
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They are in stock in Sweden now. My board is about to be shipped
I've ordered P5W DH from Belgium , hope they will send it soon :)
Wasn't max fsb around 450 ? :confused:
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@ thorgal.. 2.4 V.. currently :|.
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Originally Posted by goldenfrag
@ thorgal.. 2.4 V.. currently :|.
Thanks, that makes the DFI a bit stronger on that side :-/
@ Mykou : I wonder : where did you order ?
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@ Mykou, max FSB in BIOS is 600, AFAIK. I want to know the real stable max. it can do though...
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Originally Posted by thorgal
Thanks, that makes the DFI a bit stronger on that side :-/
@ Mykou : I wonder : where did you order ?
@Thorgal
I ordered the P5W DH deluxe from
www.shop.selection.be
here is the link to the board ( 16 in stock )
http://www.shop.selection.be/c2s_com...ieldLoginArea=
they still have some available as they say but I received a notice that I 'be told when the board arrive ... :(
Not pretty to say they already have them to my sense ..
@goldenfrag , thanx for the tip although I do not plan to overclok that much :-)
Cheers
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Been trying to order from these huys last night but they seem to ship to most european countries except uk :mad:
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The maximum FSB setting in BIOS is 500 if you use the 504 BIOS. That's going to be plenty for most people. Running at 500FSB in Windows is not so easy. Only one person in the world has done it so far. And he was using a heavily-modified board.
And trying to run at 600FSB is just totally unrealistic. Think about it. If you have an E6600, that would mean 600FSB x 9 = 5.4GHz. No one has even done 5.1GHz yet with Conroe. Even 500FSB X 9 would be 4.5GHz. No one has done that either with an E6600.
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Originally Posted by sierra_bound
The maximum FSB setting in BIOS is 500 if you use the 504 BIOS. That's going to be plenty for most people. Running at 500FSB in Windows is not so easy. Only one person in the world has done it so far. And he was using a heavily-modified board.
And trying to run at 600FSB is just totally unrealistic. Think about it. If you have an E6600, that would mean 600FSB x 9 = 5.4GHz. No one has even done 5.1GHz yet with Conroe. Even 500FSB X 9 would be 4.5GHz. No one has done that either with an E6600.
Thanks, whats the max vcore and Vmem ? Ive just had an email from my shop saying its being packed and shipped :toast:
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Originally Posted by Devious
Thanks, whats the max vcore and Vmem ? Ive just had an email from my shop saying its being packed and shipped :toast:
vmem : 2.4V (it's on previous page ;) )
vcore : 1.70V
Also look here
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Maximum VCore is 1.7v. Highest memory voltage is 2.4v. I would not recommend using more than 1.7v on any Conroe with air-cooling. I've been using 1.55v with air and 1.6 with phase-change cooling. Conroe does not get as hot as Prescott. But they still get very warm with 1.6v or higher.
Most Conroe users are probably going to run FSB in the 350-450 range. So having more than 500 in the BIOS is mainly for show. As I explained to someone else, it's like having a car with a speedometer that goes up to 200mph. But the car itself is capable of running at only 130.
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^^ Yes, but it would be nice to know if this Board can actually do around 450 FSB.
Coz on Water cooling, people can surely, push their E6600's to 4 Ghz, thatll be around 445x9... so... Yea.. 450 FSB Stable is required !
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Can somebody check it Scythe Ninja fits to this board?
Please.
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450 FSB should be possible. I haven't tested my board yet for maximum FSB.
Many people new to Intel don't seem to understand the relationship between FSB and CPU speed. Once they do, they'll realize why even 500FSB is going to be more of a dream than a reality.
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Originally Posted by BulldogPO
Can somebody check it Scythe Ninja fits to this board?
Please.
I don't have that heatsink. Sorry. I use a Tuniq Tower 120 which is huge, and it fits.
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Kyosen in Japan is up to 460FSB with E6700 and dry ice cooling. His P5W DH is modified. Plus he's a skilled bencher.
I think this board is a little faster than the Bad Axe, if you look at comparable speeds and times.
http://222.151.148.34/c-board/file/1...E6700_4.6G.png
http://222.151.148.34/c-board/file/A...E6700_4.6G.png
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Originally Posted by webwilli
E6300 ES 2 MB
Asus P5W DH
HIS X1900XTX 765/900
thx. :D
yes x1900xtx
Can you publish 3d 2k1? It is allowed :)
Same card clocks, conroe 6600 @ 3.3Ghz, 57K
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8985405
Seems that extra 2MB cache gives a nice boost
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yes. i make a fresh 3d 2k1 today with 2940 MHz:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9002020
AND i fix the windows-shutdown-reboot-bug YEAH!!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:
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Good to hear. How did you fix the problem?
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my answer to the
WINDOWS-SHUTDOWN-REBOOT-BUG (WSRB) (patent pending):
BE CAREFUL with USB Port 3 and 4!!
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2...hme12pv.th.gif
today i check every power connection on the board, but nothing helps me. then i unplugged all unnecessary USB cable and my windows shutdown normal without reboot :banana: :banana: :banana:
so i insert the USB cables one by one and test my system.
after i insert the USB hub or my USB Fan controller in Port 3 or 4, the system goes down and make a reboot.
the manual say this:
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2316/aufnahme20vt.gif
i have now idea to deactivate this feature. now i have my keyboard/mouse in port 4 and an USB extension cable on port 3. And it works perfect.
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Good to know. Thanks for doing all the checking. I'm not using any USB devices, so I would have never known.
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any new updpates with your overclock since i notices you can now add voltage?
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I bet we will see 500FSB on the P5W DH Deluxe very soon. Kinc had a ES of that board which made 459 or something and he will get the retail one without bugs in a couple of days. I will decide wheter to go for it or not when I see what he can pull off ;)
I just need a board which can give me lots of FSB :) hm maybe everyone does? :P
Have you tried P5W sierra_bound?
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Yes, I've tried the board. See these posts in the thread. ;)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&postcount=25
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&postcount=53
Won't have much time to test today. Have other things to do. Will probably switch to SS cooling by tomorrow. My CPU should do 4.2GHz+ with no problems.
Is that gocchin in your avatar? Are you a Jpop fan?
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Originally Posted by tvdang7
any new updpates with your overclock since i notices you can now add voltage?
only 420 MHz FSB = 2940 MHz
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Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Nice I'll wait for you SS results then ;)
Yes it probably is (Goto Maki/Gomaki). I've heard like 1 jpop song by def divas which is on a website and it sounded nice, I got no clue what they sang haha :D :toast:
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Originally Posted by webwilli
only 420 MHz FSB = 2940 MHz
not bad i woudl be happy with that. what volts?
and what is holding it back? memory? board? heat? or just the chip it self.
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Originally Posted by NiCKE^
Nice I'll wait for you SS results then ;)
Yes it probably is (Goto Maki/Gomaki). I've heard like 1 jpop song by def divas which is on a website and it sounded nice, I got no clue what they sang haha :D :toast:
Ah, you must have visited gocchin's Jpop website. In that song, you keep hearing the words "baka mitai". That basically means "I feel like an idiot." Haha. You can find the English translation of the song here. That phrase can also refer to someone else, like "What an idiot."
Sorry for off-topic. I will post phase-change results as soon as I get them.
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Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Ah, you must have visited gocchin's Jpop website. In that song, you keep hearing the words "baka mitai". That basically means "I feel like an idiot." Haha. You can find the English translation of the song
here.
Sorry for off-topic. I will post phase-change results as soon as I get them.
Yepp that site ;)
Damn gotta learn japanese I think :)
Sorry for OT!
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Originally Posted by tvdang7
not bad i woudl be happy with that. what volts?
and what is holding it back? memory? board? heat? or just the chip it self.
good but not enough :p: :toast:
1.5 Volt.
i think the board, but i don´t know exactly. i need a 6600 stepping 5 :rolleyes:
