First Rule of Thread Derailment Organization: YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT TDO.
Second Rule of Thread Derailment Organization: Denial is the first sign!
Third Rule of Thread Derailment Organization:Refer to rules 1 and 2.
Counseling for those that have been proven with out a doubt to have derailed a thread or two or three @ one time or another :)
You know you who are, the first step is acceptance!
There is also the support group for the enablers so you know the deal. Your "mark" on the dotted line.
Save your grumbling for another thread.
