Plasma or LCD for PS3?

[BlackX]

Please recommend me what kind of TV should I use with PS3.
It ofcourse must have HDMI and the screen must be over 80cm.
At the price lets say ~2k $
And please write models.

Thank u! ;)

[charlie]

you can get great deals on 2005 DLP projection sets. Get something like a Samsung HLS4266W, a 42" 1280 x 720 DLP. In my city runs around $1700.

[BlackX]

the problem is that it weights few tons and shipping to my country would cost ~1k $ :( and the lamp life time is only 5k hours so after about 1 year its dead.

[Turok]

Do NOT use a plasma screen for gaming. Plasmas burn-in too easy.
You dont buy a nice plasma to decorate it with permanent HUD burnins :nono:

If its for gaming, its eather a CRT, projected, or LCD TV. Or you can wait until SED releases, which is going to be a long time.

I would also wait a few months afther the PS3 releases to buy the console, because the PS3 is not looking good IMO. The only games worth getting a PS3 are MGS4 and Grand Turismo HD. The PS3's architecture also makes it harder to code games, so the nicer games with the nicer engines are made for the X360 and PC since its easier to take advantage of the hardware compared to the PS3

[charlie]

the problem is that it weights few tons and shipping to my country would cost ~1k $ :( and the lamp life time is only 5k hours so after about 1 year its dead.

they're less than 100 lbs and the new bulb costs about $200. But yeah, if they're not avail. in your country... then I'd go with a big LCD.

[Kobalt]

Go buy a ~800$ CRT projector and use a 7 foot wide screen ;).

[BlackX]

Thanx guys :)
how about sony bravia?

[J-Mag]

Definately get a 1080p set.

I have been eyeballin the Westinghouse LVM-37W3 recently, as it is a 37" 1920 x 1080p LCD and it has improved compared to the older model with faster responce times, higher contrast, and a better looking bezel. It is also only $1500 only prob is you are not going ot have killer blacks and 1080i upscaling has blurring.

You can get the 42" model for a few hundred more.

The 47incher is supposedly coming out in the next couple quarters.

[Waffles]

Definately get a 1080p set.

I have been eyeballin the Westinghouse LVM-37W3 recently, as it is a 37" 1920 x 1080p LCD and it has improved compared to the older model with faster responce times, higher contrast, and a better looking bezel. It is also only $1500 only prob is you are not going ot have killer blacks and 1080i upscaling has blurring.

You can get the 42" model for a few hundred more.

The 47incher is supposedly coming out in the next couple quarters.
when looking up close the westinghouse screens have a foggy look to them. i was gonna get a westinghouse 37" but settled for a samsung 32" that was the same price, and i'm happy with it. the difference between 32 and 37 is negligible, and image quality means everything imo :)
only thing is.. it's 720p instead of 1080i

[amd4me]

Just wait til PS3 drops.
DOnt buy anything until then.
Because you dont know if there will be better options then,

[charlie]

Definately get a 1080p set.

I have been eyeballin the Westinghouse LVM-37W3 recently, as it is a 37" 1920 x 1080p LCD and it has improved compared to the older model with faster responce times, higher contrast, and a better looking bezel. It is also only $1500 only prob is you are not going ot have killer blacks and 1080i upscaling has blurring.

You can get the 42" model for a few hundred more.

The 47incher is supposedly coming out in the next couple quarters.

only problem is that Xbox 360 is 760p native... is PS3 1080p native?

[amd4me]

only problem is that Xbox 360 is 760p native... is PS3 1080p native?Do you mean 720P?
There no such thing as 760P afaik.

[WoD]

Yeah, I'm voting for LCD too ;)


Originally Posted by charlie
only problem is that Xbox 360 is 760p native... is PS3 1080p native?

Supposably not - the hardware is too weak to handle complex graphics at 1080p.

[andyisc00l]

If you don't need it now I'd wait until the new DLPs come out in August...I think its august...but it'd definatly be worth the wait..

[BlackX]

If you don't need it now I'd wait until the new DLPs come out in August...I think its august...but it'd definatly be worth the wait..

whats so special about them ?

[andyisc00l]

whats so special about them ?

Newer technology, every new generation provides performance tweeks, its not like tube tvs where they really don't improve from year to year..DLP especially is still learning, I'd say in the next couple years the differences won't be as huge but for now there has been some pretty big differences from generation to generation, also LCD is still developing too, especially with the new 1080p stuff...longer lasting bulbs coming(thank god), thinner, just "better", samsungs new LED TV looks really awesome, heard good things about the new sxrd...also, the next generation of LCD/DLP will be absouloutly 1080p capable with more HDMI inputs...the ones they have now sometimes don't accept TRUE 1080p signals...something that you will need with blu-ray (most only accept TRUE 1080p through their PC connection)...I think like 2 have true 1080p, the best TV right now, Sony SXRD 1080p won't accept 1080p...

one thing people still complain about alot is the colorwheel, ghosting, lasting colors...they still have basic troubles that require better technology...some of the colorwheels are so loud you can hear them whine at low volume

[BlackX]

Thanx m8 :toast:
maybe u can give me some links about new DLPs?

[irev210]

Definately get a 1080p set.

I have been eyeballin the Westinghouse LVM-37W3 recently, as it is a 37" 1920 x 1080p LCD and it has improved compared to the older model with faster responce times, higher contrast, and a better looking bezel. It is also only $1500 only prob is you are not going ot have killer blacks and 1080i upscaling has blurring.

You can get the 42" model for a few hundred more.

The 47incher is supposedly coming out in the next couple quarters.


im gunna get the 37w3!

it is just an AU optronics panel, with really nice input selection

[andyisc00l]

Thanx m8 :toast:
maybe u can give me some links about new DLPs?

cnet TVs (good place)
http://reviews.cnet.com/Televisions/2001-6475_7-0.html?tag=cnetfd.dir

if you can find any information about CES 2006 (sometime in january I think), they talk about the new DLPs coming in august..
http://www.cnet.com/4520-11405_1-6398232-1.html

new sxrd...
http://www.cnet.com/4831-11405_1-6413188.html?tag=blog

new samsung...
http://reviews.cnet.com/Samsung_HL_S5679W/4505-6484_7-31641984-2.html?tag=nav

looking at current top TVs..
http://reviews.cnet.com/Home_video/4521-6531_7-5021476-2.html?tag=subnav

If I were you I'd either way for next generation LCD or next generation DLP. Personally I can't wait for 1920X1080 resoultion tvs(for computers) to be cheap, I'd buy one now if it wasn't so expensive, but $3500 is alot, this next generation MIGHT be the one I buy especially since these color wheels are like $300 and wear out in a year or so..(be careful who you buy from online especially, alot of those NY stores are bad, their good reviews are usually posted by themselves, and the bad reviews are the real people)

[BlackX]

thanx one more time ;) :toast:

[jkresh]

plasmas no longer have burn in issues. Also for best price/performance go with a projector (panasonic ae900 for about $1500 us after rebate will give you a nice 100inch 720p screen). For 1080p, the current dlp's arent realy 1080p (wobulation), so you would be stuck with an lcd (and in your budget about 37-40 inches), or you could wait for newer dlps. But why buy a set now for something which wont be out for at least another 5 months?

[alexio]

Plasma technology only becomes interested above $2.5k or so. Yes I have seen this myself and only the very expensive models give a good image (not to mention HD!).

I think a 32-40" LCD screen that supports 720p and 1080i is your best bet.

I guess affordable 1080p's might be right around the corner, but in the world of technology someting nice is always around the corner.

It's very unlikely 1080p will be broadcasted any time soon, and affordable HD-DVD players and blue-ray drivers have yet to come. There is no need for 1080p right now and 720p and 1080i look so nice already.

[J-Mag]

only problem is that Xbox 360 is 760p native... is PS3 1080p native?

720p will look just as good on a 1080p monitor vs a 720p monitor, so I don't see what the deal is...

1080i on the other hand varies from monitor to monitor depending on the quality of the de-interlacer.

[J-Mag]

It's very unlikely 1080p will be broadcasted any time soon, and affordable HD-DVD players and blue-ray drivers have yet to come. There is no need for 1080p right now and 720p and 1080i look so nice already.

No need, wtf?

1080p gives you 1920x1080 resoltuion, which you can use today with your rig hooked up via DVI.

[alexio]

1080p gives you 1920x1080 resoltuion, which you can use today with your rig hooked up via DVI.

That's cool and all, but he's looking for a tv man ;)

I'm sure he has a nice monitor already if he's talking about a $2k budget for his new tv.

[J-Mag]

That's cool and all, but he's looking for a tv man ;)

I'm sure he has a nice monitor already if he's talking about a $2k budget for his new tv.

Yeah I know but if you can hook it up to mor ethan one source ;)

TV Tuner + PC > just TV tuner

[tdunks]

Do NOT use a plasma screen for gaming. Plasmas burn-in too easy.
You dont buy a nice plasma to decorate it with permanent HUD burnins :nono:

If its for gaming, its eather a CRT, projected, or LCD TV. Or you can wait until SED releases, which is going to be a long time.

I would also wait a few months afther the PS3 releases to buy the console, because the PS3 is not looking good IMO. The only games worth getting a PS3 are MGS4 and Grand Turismo HD. The PS3's architecture also makes it harder to code games, so the nicer games with the nicer engines are made for the X360 and PC since its easier to take advantage of the hardware compared to the PS3

Plasmas do not burn in near as quick with newer technology. It now takes clos to 24 hours to even get a small non-permanent burn in with the image with NO MOVEMENT behind it or anything (your hud would have to not be at all pransparent)

[BlackX]

Maybe I'll wait for SED or BrightSide, they've been announced for Q4'06 ;)

[DCR]

This will probably be the first time in history that a 42" LCD screen will probably be cheaper than buying a game console (PS3).

Joking aside, I am in the same boat actually. I currently have a 46" Mitsubishi widescreen projection HDTV, with component inputs for the HDTV.

I want to get rid of the huge projection TV and buy a new LCD, 42" or larger, and my LORD, is shopping for these things a difficult task. Just going to Best Buy is overwhelming. There are so many TV's, Flat Panels, LCD's, Plasmas, etc, that making a decision is tough.

[tdunks]

The best type of TV out at the moment for a cost/value ratio would be DLP rear projection. They give some of the best pictures and are fairly cheap.

[Lestat]

for quality, clarity, and overall WOW factor there is no choice, plasma all the way.
Pioneer did some tests last year i believe it was for burn in.
They left a video game paused for several days and there was a slight burn in on the screen, after power cycling the tv, the burn in was cleared from the plasma fluid.
They did several tests with watermarks in paused and unpaused tv and cbale broadcasts, and ther ewas Zero burn in after many MANY hours of viewing the same channel/watermark. and there was no perm. burn in on the screen.
I think at this point in plasma tv's life cycle, if you get a 1/2 way decent brand you shouldnt have to worry about burn in. and the lifespan and quality will be what you paid for.
To the best of my knowledge there is no type of backlight bleeding or anything like that.
picture quality is much higher than LCD

LCD is designed for smaller screens, and durability.
Picture quality as i stated is not as good.
Price wise they are typically more expensive for a smaller screen than it is for a larger Plasma.
Backlight bleeding is ALWAYS an issue no matter what lcd you have. whether its right out of the box or a year from now, because of the heat those put off, the seal about the backlight and the LCD will start to show light thru.

when i got my Westinghouse 32" i was on a budget. and it was one of the best bang for your buck tv. and still is. even though now the new model has HDMI and 1080p.
When i was looking at that 32" right behind me was a 42" Plasma for $200 more, you cant imagine the torture i was put thru!
but in the end i went with the westing house. i regret it, not cuz its a bad tv,, but for 10 more inches, and a MUCH higher quality picture i could have gotten the 42" plasma.

its a tough choice but i'd go with plasma

[tdunks]

for quality, clarity, and overall WOW factor there is no choice, plasma all the way.
Pioneer did some tests last year i believe it was for burn in.
They left a video game paused for several days and there was a slight burn in on the screen, after power cycling the tv, the burn in was cleared from the plasma fluid.
They did several tests with watermarks in paused and unpaused tv and cbale broadcasts, and ther ewas Zero burn in after many MANY hours of viewing the same channel/watermark. and there was no perm. burn in on the screen.
I think at this point in plasma tv's life cycle, if you get a 1/2 way decent brand you shouldnt have to worry about burn in. and the lifespan and quality will be what you paid for.
To the best of my knowledge there is no type of backlight bleeding or anything like that.
picture quality is much higher than LCD
LCD is designed for smaller screens, and durability.
Picture quality as i stated is not as good.
Price wise they are typically more expensive for a smaller screen than it is for a larger Plasma.
Backlight bleeding is ALWAYS an issue no matter what lcd you have. whether its right out of the box or a year from now, because of the heat those put off, the seal about the backlight and the LCD will start to show light thru.

when i got my Westinghouse 32" i was on a budget. and it was one of the best bang for your buck tv. and still is. even though now the new model has HDMI and 1080p.
When i was looking at that 32" right behind me was a 42" Plasma for $200 more, you cant imagine the torture i was put thru!
but in the end i went with the westing house. i regret it, not cuz its a bad tv,, but for 10 more inches, and a MUCH higher quality picture i could have gotten the 42" plasma.

its a tough choice but i'd go with plasma


Actually at the moment LCD takes the prize. LCD is also the highest price to size ratio. If you want top detail go for LCD. 50" or more go with plasma for best detail and for best price/size/detail go with DLP.