DC Vault Projects Thread

[[XC]thewildblue]

Here is the main link to DC Vault

http://www.dc-vault.com/

Here is the link to XS

http://www.dc-vault.com/showteam.php?team=311

I thought that I should create a thread where we have all the projects we are currently running to improve the our DC Vault status

These currently are:

D2OL (http://www.d2ol.com) - CPU Intensive
Dimes (http://www.netdimes.org) - Bandwidth
DPAD (http://www.stephenbrooks.org/muon1/) - CPU Intensive
F@H (http://folding.stanford.edu) - CPU Intensive
Majestic 12 - Bandwidth
QMC@H - CPU Intensive
R@H - CPU Intensive
RC5-72 and OGR-25 - CPU Intensive
Red Library - Bandwidth
SOB - CPU Intensive
Simap (http://boinc.bio.wzw.tum.de/boincsimap/) - CPU Intensive
Sztaki Desktop Grid CPU Intensive ?
Now if we add any more/or ones Ive missed please add to the thread.

[[XC]melymel]

I think we have a very small simap team too but i'm not sure if it's taken up seriously. I think it's another cpu intensive one though. Good idea for the sticky though these projects needed their own place.

:toast:

[[XC]thewildblue]

Any links or info would be good.

[Rinsewand]

RC5-72 and OGR-25 both CPU intensive.

RwD

[[XC]melymel]

link too simap homepage: http://boinc.bio.wzw.tum.de/boincsimap/
link too simap team details: http://boinc.bio.wzw.tum.de/boincsimap/team_display.php?teamid=707

Dont know what links you need but ill edit this post if you need a different link.

P.S. how do we get different projects registered for XS over at DCVault?

:toast:

[bullet2urbrain]

Seventeen or Bust, VERY VERY VERY clockspeed dependant. my single P4 @ 3.0ghz is doing a phenomenal job.

Anyone who could spare or is going to be adding a fast P4 we (I) could use the help in SOB

[Jeff]

SoB flies on Intel.

[UCmajewski]

P.S. how do we get different projects registered for XS over at DCVault?

:toast:

You do it on the dc vault page and with a contact email. Since I got a few of them added recently dont know if they look for someone specific email address or what?

[eddieate]

I started a uFluids@Home team, I wouldn't recomend the project though.
so far; I had trouble regeristing, their site is down alot and i have some WU's on 200% or more?:confused:
also it looks like it uses that crappy score system where my lovley X2 gets paired off with some idot's 486
and I get the credit for the 486 :nono:
Hopefully just getting us on the board should improve our DC-Vault standing.
Ed.

[hixie]

Seventeen or Bust, VERY VERY VERY clockspeed dependant. my single P4 @ 3.0ghz is doing a phenomenal job.

Anyone who could spare or is going to be adding a fast P4 we (I) could use the help in SOB

Sounds like something i could add, got a 4Ghz pressie running 24/7. I'll look into it.

[Rinsewand]

Think simap still needs adding to the first post list. That, RC5-72 and OGR-25 have all been added according to the nice folks at DCvault

RwD

[UCmajewski]

Think simap still needs adding to the first post list. That, RC5-72 and OGR-25 have all been added according to the nice folks at DCvault

RwD

Yeah I added them as well ... it should be up there the next time the DC vault stats server updates. Im formatting this god for saken linux 64 to run various other projects.

The teams have been added and we are up to 80 ......we desperately need another physical science team. Ufluids@home looks promising ..... anyone ran that or know anything about it?

[Axylone]

Red Library = http://www.readyresponse.org/index.php?item=distributed&opt=2
Majestic 12 = http://www.majestic12.co.uk/

[UCmajewski]

Predictor and Moneybee are up there .... wow ran moneybee for two days and it gave us more points than Red Library has. Looks like project interest is a big determinate. We still need to fill the void in physical science. Hash Clash anyone ?

[[XC]melymel]

You've done some great work with the DCvsult projects since i last looked and i have too agree it's physical science where we lose. HashClash looks perfect if we give it the same power we gave QMC we would double the highest rac there and hit the top 40 in a day. A small effort should make a nice difference too the standings although i am still going full power too rosetta but i may throw a rig in. :toast:

[UCmajewski]

You've done some great work with the DCvsult projects since i last looked and i have too agree it's physical science where we lose. HashClash looks perfect if we give it the same power we gave QMC we would double the highest rac there and hit the top 40 in a day. A small effort should make a nice difference too the standings although i am still going full power too rosetta but i may throw a rig in. :toast:

Perfect .... im going to drum up support for hash clash. I still got some rigs on R@H and probably throwing on some more .... not too sure how long R@H will go for? We will be #1 soon so theres probably going to be a new project for us.

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

R@H is running until the end of CASP7 - we need first at (and will be before) august 10th or whenever CASP7 ends. the majority of the R@H team will be sticking with it until then

[UCmajewski]

R@H is running until the end of CASP7 - we need first at (and will be before) august 10th or whenever CASP7 ends. the majority of the R@H team will be sticking with it until then

I can guarantee 20 - 30 K hopefully .... heck might be more once I mosey on over there and get new client installed. R@H is clearly my main focus ..... I want my #4 overall back!

I kid you not we could take Hash Clash top spot quite easily :) In terms of the vault we wont move up much without another successful team in physical science.

[[XC]melymel]

I just started an XS DPAD team. It's a cpu intensive one and uses 10mb of RAM. This is the link to the hompage http://www.stephenbrooks.org/muon1/ .

I don't recommend the project so far but i'm getting some points for the team. If you really want to join the team add the [XS] tag to the start of your user name. Here's the team link if it's needed to get it added to our DC Vault rankings: http://www.stephenbrooks.org/muon1/?team=[XS]&sortby=username&oldness=730 . I'll run it for a short while and see how many points i can get out of it. :toast:

[Jose]

link too simap homepage: http://boinc.bio.wzw.tum.de/boincsimap/
link too simap team details: http://boinc.bio.wzw.tum.de/boincsimap/team_display.php?teamid=707

Dont know what links you need but ill edit this post if you need a different link.

P.S. how do we get different projects registered for XS over at DCVault?

:toast:

There is an XtremeSystems Simap Team registered. Those who want to join it all they have to do is join.

http://boinc.bio.wzw.tum.de/boincsimap/team_display.php?teamid=707

[Jose]

There is also a Sztaki Desktop Grid Team too

http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/team_display.php?teamid=617

[P0G0]

Seventeen or Bust, VERY VERY VERY clockspeed dependant. my single P4 @ 3.0ghz is doing a phenomenal job.

Anyone who could spare or is going to be adding a fast P4 we (I) could use the help in SOBAs you already know, I've already joined the team with only one of my machines. I'm thinking about swapping the other 5 over to SoB. XS has a firm grip on the beating of FDC and WILL be in first place by the end of CASP7. If anything I will put the one machine I have on SoB back on R@H and switch the rest to SoB. With only 4 people producing on our team I can't belive the climb we're already making, but there's a LONG way to go.

[bullet2urbrain]

As you already know, I've already joined the team with only one of my machines. I'm thinking about swapping the other 5 over to SoB. XS has a firm grip on the beating of FDC and WILL be in first place by the end of CASP7. If anything I will put the one machine I have on SoB back on R@H and switch the rest to SoB. With only 4 people producing on our team I can't belive the climb we're already making, but there's a LONG way to go.


my suggestion would be to leave the A64's on R@H and Switch the P4's to SoB if you must, personally i would not take any firepower from R@H at the moment.

there is too much that FDC can do on a drop of a hat...

i only have a rig running SoB because of the very simple GUI that it uses its less "Detectable" than BOINC.

[UCmajewski]

there is too much that FDC can do on a drop of a hat...



Well they are done in R@H ...... dont forget other projects are in the CASP challenge as well such as predictor where we have a fledging team.

Hash Clash ( CPU )
Moneybee ( CPU )

[Jose]

Well they are done in R@H ...... dont forget other projects are in the CASP challenge as well such as predictor where we have a fledging team.

Hash Clash ( CPU )
Moneybee ( CPU )


August 12 will be the date we know who is the R@H King. Please remember that in the case of R@H, the top CASP 7 team will get immortalized in the scientific journal article wiritten by the people at Baker Labs. So at least till the last day of CASP, expect a conyinuing power crunching on that project.

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

well, i'm onboard with hashclash now... but our hashclash team does not appear to be listed on DC-Vault? hum.

[UCmajewski]

well, i'm onboard with hashclash now... but our hashclash team does not appear to be listed on DC-Vault? hum.

True ......I was keeping it on the down low till we get more people on board. A couple other projects are going as well ..... if we add them all at the same time it will be like a vault jump.

Next update we will pass the Dutch Power Cows ...... a goal of any successful project :)

[Jose]

BTW: If anyone is running Einstein@Home I found that there is an XtremeSystems Team formed ( 3 members) that doesn't show in the vault.

[UCmajewski]

BTW: If anyone is running Einstein@Home I found that there is an XtremeSystems Team formed ( 3 members) that doesn't show in the vault.

We got a ufluids team as well which consists of the credit I finally got after running it for a few days. They'll be added here shortly perhaps today / tomorrow.

[Haltech]

Damn UC, your production has taken a real drop. Whats going on?

[KaptainBlaZzed]

We also have an LHC@Home team. consisting of my self so far.

[UCmajewski]

Damn UC, your production has taken a real drop. Whats going on?

Which project? SOB I am off of ... the service install isnt that great might dig through the readme to get it rolling. QMC should be about the same and R@H should be up .... not like before but up. Hash Clash are my sempron and A64. Maj seems like a constant downward trend because of my crappy ISP. This one Maj 12 install doesnt seem to want to work .... im checking my other rigs to see what the deal is.

[[XC]melymel]

How long does the vault take too update as i have requested the seti(boinc) and the DPAD team to be added? :toast:

[[XC]melymel]

UPDATE: We're flying up the rankings and after the addition of a few projects we are now in the top 50 (46th to be exact) and have broken through 100K overall and took 9 places on the last update :woot:

http://www.dc-vault.com/showteam.php?team=311

:toast:

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

someone needs to add the XS hashclash team to the DC-Vault listings... (I would but i dunno how :) )

[KaptainBlaZzed]

someone needs to add the XS hashclash team to the DC-Vault listings... (I would but i dunno how :) )

I will once we get in the top 10.

lets hold off for now.:stick:

[[XC]melymel]

seems deb started a primegrid team but got no points for it, so i'll get us some points in it and then add it to the vault. It seems a nice project each wu takes about 10 minutes and it only requires 25mb mem for each wu. It also runs off the boinc client. Below's the link to the home page if it is needed to be added to teh original post. I'll give updates as too how easy i think this project will be for take over. :toast:

http://www.primegrid.com

[Martijn]

I started a team @ Grid.org. My father is a little more used to this project than BOINC-projects, and he runs it as well, I'll try and move some of his rigs over to our team.

Is anyone able to ask if this team can be added to the list?

[[XC]melymel]

I started a team @ Grid.org. My father is a little more used to this project than BOINC-projects, and he runs it as well, I'll try and move some of his rigs over to our team.

Is anyone able to ask if this team can be added to the list?

I just requested the Grid.og team to be added to our DC Vault list along with the primegrid team so they should be updated and registering DC Vault points for XS very soon. :toast:

[Martijn]

I just requested the Grid.og team to be added to our DC Vault list along with the primegrid team so they should be updated and registering DC Vault points for XS very soon. :toast:
My father agreed that I added his account to XS!!! He has over 19 years of CPU-time done! :woot:

[KaptainBlaZzed]

I have found an awesome combo to get max points out af a DX.

My DX is @ 3.1Ghz with 2 x 256mb 2-3-2-5

Points per day from 1 DX:
R@H ~ 1,200
Seventeen or Bust ~ 400G
Dimes ~ 5,000

You get such hingher BMarks from BOINC when only 2 CPU's are used, that using 2 only drops your output by a couple hundred points. What you loose in R@H you more that make up for in Seventeed or bust. Plus you cna still run Dimes.
Not to mentioni that it only uses up ~350mb RAM.

I am loving the points that i am recieving from this combo.:D

[KaptainBlaZzed]

A request for help in HashClash@Home!!!:cheer2: :cheer2: :slash:

I need some help in HashClash. It is kind of like R@H, it used the optimized clients and i think i get more points clock for clock from HashClash than i do from R@H.
I am moving up the ranks very fast but i would like for the team to be in the top 10.
The top team only has 375,000 points, we are almost capable of doubling that in one day with our R@H production.

If i could get a couple of people to throw a machine or 2 at HC we will be a top 10 team in no time.

check the stats here.
http://stats.free-dc.org/new/projpage.php?proj=has

Thanks for your help,

KB

[[XC]melymel]

OK kaptain i'll throw my 805 and my lappy on to it now, does this have any preference between intel and amd like r@h does? :toast:

EDIT: there added and crunching now i like these ones with short wu's make you feel like you've done more :D

[KaptainBlaZzed]

OK kaptain i'll throw my 805 and my lappy on to it now, does this have any preference between intel and amd like r@h does? :toast:

EDIT: there added and crunching now i like these ones with short wu's make you feel like you've done more :D

I am not sure, i have only had 1/2 of my DX on it for a day now. I do know that i am getting ~4000 ppd from 2 x DC AMD's.

My DX @ 3.15 has been running HC for 18 hours with on 2 WU at a time and has 1,000 credits.:woot:
The other half of my DX is running Seventeen or Bust and is getting ~450G per day.:woot:

[[XC]melymel]

I got this installed on my parents A64 3200 now to, atleast this'll finish workunits as opposed to rosetta where they timed out before they had a chance to finish. My 805 seems to be doig well too, how often does Free-DC stats update the HC data? i want to make my sig bigger :D :toast:

[KaptainBlaZzed]

I got this installed on my parents A64 3200 now to, atleast this'll finish workunits as opposed to rosetta where they timed out before they had a chance to finish. My 805 seems to be doig well too, how often does Free-DC stats update the HC data? i want to make my sig bigger :D :toast:


Sadly it only updates the stats once per day, I believe it is around 5pm CST

Thanks for the help.:toast:

Mel you should add your DCR rank to your sig., it is just a check box under the stats tool at FDC.

[[XC]melymel]

I checked both boxes but no rank's come up does it do it automatically as i can't see my name on the dcr list either, what is DCR? :D thanks :toast:

Couldn't be bothered to make another post but cheers Kaptain \/\/ :up:

[KaptainBlaZzed]

I checked both boxes but no rank's come up does it do it automatically as i can't see my name on the dcr list either, what is DCR? :D thanks :toast:

DCR is Distributed Computing Rank

it takes all your points for all your projects and ranks you against everybody else.
To see you total rank, not just your rank in a sigle project.

I believe it updates like 4 times a day and when that happens you will then be ranked.

[[XC]melymel]

Hashclash down? none of my wu's are uploading and I think the sites down too, I only have about an hour of backlogged wu's left so hurry up and fix hashclash :(

[KaptainBlaZzed]

that is what i am gettig also.

This is the first time i have seen this and i have geen running HC for ~2 weeks now.
you should change your setting so BOINC DL's more WU.

[Rinsewand]

just created a team for ClimatePrediction ( http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/ )

ive set 5% of my cpu onto it. will add it to DCVault when there some points.

RwD

[[XC]melymel]

OK people if you check out the rosetta section you will notice that on JUNE 17th well this saturday and the duration of this Sunday we are pushing for the big 1 MILLION day and need ALL the help we can get so I'm going to plead with you like me to swap all rigs back to rosetta for that one day. :toast:

[Rinsewand]

will do Sir!

:)

RwD

[KaptainBlaZzed]

no problem, will switch to Rosetta for a couple of days.

[[XC]melymel]

Thanks guys and as i said everything and them some is going to be needed for this but it's certainly going to be impressive :D. :toast:

[Jose]

BTW: Many of you may have World Community Grid credits floating arround. I found that there was an XtremeSystems Team that had not been registered and I registered. If you have world Community Credits do register them as part of the XtremeSystem Team

ALSO: If you register an XtremeSystems Team please do check with NJKID or any of the Administrators and kindly provide the teams password/

Please do check the Vault page for the registered XtremeSystems Teams. If any of you have credits already won for those projects that are registered and have not "joined" the respective teams do so. This basic accounting action helps.

And finnally Mucho thanks to all of you that are helping the Rosetta Team reach Freedom Day and the 1 Million Mark day. Your help is appreciated and dully noted and believe me it will be reciprocated.

[Jose]

just created a team for ClimatePrediction ( http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/ )

ive set 5% of my cpu onto it. will add it to DCVault when there some points.

RwD

Do register it as soon as possible. Registering it even with a single memebe in a team gives a nice chucnk of points. Also please remeber to provide the password to a team administrator.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

now that we are #1 in Rosetta we need to get out DC-vault standing up.:toast:
(or soon to be)

I was thinking that we should do a kind of Tri-athlon with our DC projects.
we run a project for a week or so and then switch to a diferent one, thus giving us a decent showing in all projects and getting our standing way up.

We could take QMC or Hashclash in 1 day and have 2 more #1 spots.

After that i am not sure what projects would be good to run, maybe every BOINC project just to keep it easy.

Let me know what you think, I am going back to HashcClash after the day is done. I like it because of the short WU's.

[[XC] moddolicous]

Well, thats gonna be really hard for DDTung. I think if DDTung desides to stay crunching, he should put his DX rigs on Seventeen and bust, and we'd have to find some other project good for AMD. BTW, I think we should keep our daily high til we have a decent lead on Free-dc.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

i know it would be really hard for DDTUNG, but most everybody has direct access to the comps. all the time and it should not be much of a problem.

I would definately say lets get a nice lead on FDC, but we can start to divert some of our recources elsewhere; since we are doing 3X their out put per day right now. I also do not see FDC tring to take back this spot, since they have lost it twice to us now and know that it we really want it we will take it.

I now that we are the #1 producing team in HashClash right now and i am producing 80% of the points my self. I expect to be in the top 10 by the end of the week.:D

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

lets run down F-DC or DPC in another main project :)

[KaptainBlaZzed]

lets run down F-DC or DPC in another main project :)


FDC is #2 in QMC and #1 in HashCalsh.:eek:

lets take them down.:D

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

there won't be any new work in hashclash for a while; they found a useful collision and have enough work flying around to last a while. Regardless, I've attached to hashclash and QMC (in addition to Rosetta) so i should be divided 3 ways; we'll see how it goes.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

there won't be any new work in hashclash for a while; they found a useful collision and have enough work flying around to last a while. Regardless, I've attached to hashclash and QMC (in addition to Rosetta) so i should be divided 3 ways; we'll see how it goes.


i know HashClash is out of work and it is because of me. HaHaHa

Check it out.:D


Hi Robert T. Silva

You can see the progress on the Server Status Page
here : Server-Status (http://boinc.banaan.org/hashclash/status.php/)

now : 55,799 Results in progress. [As of 14 Jun 2006 20:49:50 UTC]

10 % from one User : USER (http://boinc.banaan.org/hashclash/show_user.php?userid=1144), with 3 Hosts

greetz DAXL

[[XC]melymel]

well done Kaptain now that's an acheivment :clap: I was doing alright in Hashclash until you nicked all the work :p: . If you want another short wu boinc project I recommend primegrid. The wu's are about as long as hashclash ones and i was able to get XS into the top 5 producing teams on my own with only the power I used in Hashclash so It shouldn't be hard to get first in :D.

[Jose]

People : Lets start getting organized. I am developing a plan that will allow the Rosetta Team march on for their crazy goals while helping the other teams go for the top and while marching for dc dominance in an organized , methodical and ruthless way. All of this while having fun.

I am checking all the Vault Projects to see if there are projects in which there are semi inactive teams or individuals that have points but have not joined the XtremeSystems Teams . I am also checking to see in which projects we do not have a team registered or the team is unregistered. I will report back to you in a day or two.

Believe me : Al projects are going to get help, Rosetta Domination is going to be absolute and legendary, the teams that are close to being at the top will get at the top and the other teams will get moving as we will get Vault domination too. We will get the Dimes Team on to the top

These are great times to continue recruiting new members for the XtremeSystems Teams.

The great thing about discipline and focus and power is that it is efficient :)


PS to Rinsewand : Please as soon as you get your first credits in the Climate Prediction Project register the team at the vault. Do not worry of you are the only member for now. The important thing is to have the team registered ASAP.

[Jose]

BTW: Want to get started into the Vault Domination Race. Please remember that the projects where one gain the most points easier and fastest are the projects where the team right now has a low standing (under a 100) ; the lower the current standing the higher the amount of points we gain as we move up. (I checked the Vault Formula and this effect is a direct result of the way credits are calculated).

The nice thing is that we can allot small amount of resources into a group of small projects , while keeping our prime interests well supported ( like Dimes, Rosetta etc) and we can move up fast. Please notice that while we were concentrated in Rosetta ( Again thanks to all for their help) we did move up to 29 because the smaller teams moved up a little while providing the larger number of points the score formula allows for. Keep this in mind: we don't have to sacrifice our favorite projects, all we have to do is to get organized )

As to Prime Grid: Right now our team standing is the result of two team members so you can imagine what 5-10 new members doing some crunching . Ditto for SIMAP, Ditto for SZTAKI Desktop Grid were I am the team , Ditto for UBERO, EON and World Community Grid and so on.

Also remember that Right now , all the Majestic 12 team need is a little help and they go over the top with ease.


PS.... Guerrilla warfare is and can be fun. Lets start nipping at the heels of the other projects. Get the Top teams worried and weakened and then POUNCE for the kill ....

As I said before: I is a great time to belong to XtremeSystems.

[[XC]melymel]

The nice thing is that we can allot small amount of resources into a group of small projects , while keeping our prime interests well supported ( like Dimes, Rosetta etc) and we can move up fast.

:up: precisely the point we have been trying to make. Jose I don't know if you saw where we started but before we started our vault attack we were down 130+ and now we're 29th while still maintaining 500K+ in rosetta. :woot:

Below is the formula for point calculation for those that still don't know and as you can see by knowing this you can work out which projects are best such as E@H and S@H because of the large amount of teams etc.

Overall score = Sum of all category scores
Category scores = Sum of all projects scores in a category
Project score = 10000 - ((Position - 1) * (10000 / Total number of teams in the project))

:toast:

[Jose]

:up: precisely the point we have been trying to make. Jose I don't know if you saw where we started but before we started our vault attack we were down 130+ and now we're 29th while still maintaining 500K+ in rosetta. :woot:

Below is the formula for point calculation for those that still don't know and as you can see by knowing this you can work out which projects are best such as E@H and S@H because of the large amount of teams etc.

Overall score = Sum of all category scores
Category scores = Sum of all projects scores in a category
Project score = 10000 - ((Position - 1) * (10000 / Total number of teams in the project))

:toast:

melymel2789 I hope you remeber that all I said was that all the major teams efforts need not to be sacrificed and yet we can be numero 1 at the vault.

The key here is to remeber that all our goals have been met when we work as a team. There are on egos in a team that works great. Every Contribution small and great is welcomed .

See one of the problems we had was tht certain people wanted all the glory , personal glory and that screwed things over.

Want to laugh I am the XtremeSystems EON Team and Ubero Team . I dont even know how eon or ubero work and I have not even checked my personal stats but I know XtremeSystems gained nice points in the vault, so at other projects where I am the only one member.

As I Have said to you before: We will be numero 1 at The Vault and the team members will help other teams get to be Numerro uno in their projects. We have proved to all that when we as a team commit to a goal , we as a team will do.

BTW if you can find about 5 P3s even that are not OC. There is a small project ready to get moving and get nice points . :)


Stranbgely enough the project that can gives us the highest jump at the Vault is the the project every one avoids like the plague: SETI LOL LOL LOL

[KaptainBlaZzed]

I am moving my DX's to Primegrid bacause they can not handle the long workunits of QMC. it will take about 20 hours per WU on a DX

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

MJ12 would be over the top (and with a nice margin) with only 5 more members (or 5 existing members) matching top production (ie, mine or moddo's [or haltech's until his gets back in the sky]). even if you can't come close to 1M a day, we need every last scrap of bandwidth! bring in the 56K modems!!! Since when did XS settle for only being 4th in dailies for a project, especially one as dominatable as MJ12?! C'mon gang, we can do better ;)

what we need is a new subteam, XS_Swat_Team, for all these side projects...

[Jose]

MJ12 would be over the top (and with a nice margin) with only 5 more members (or 5 existing members) matching top production (ie, mine or moddo's [or haltech's until his gets back in the sky]). even if you can't come close to 1M a day, we need every last scrap of bandwidth! bring in the 56K modems!!! Since when did XS settle for only being 4th in dailies for a project, especially one as dominatable as MJ12?! C'mon gang, we can do better ;)

what we need is a new subteam, XS_Swat_Team, for all these side projects...


In my humble opinion that is the first project that should be helped. Not only because it is one of the esiaest but because we know why. :)

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

because F-DC is right in front of us and we can trample them again? ;)

[Jose]

because F-DC is right in front of us and we can trample them again? ;)

Lets not rile Free Dc that much at least for a day or two. LOL LOL Tets say they are in a state of what the hell happened to our big Rosetta Lead of 4 months ago ...lol lol I

[KaptainBlaZzed]

I thought about running MJ12, but them i saw that it required that i install .NET and i decided i did not want to do that.

[Jose]

Kaptain : Every one must select the projects that he/she feels comfortable. That is why XtremeSystems is such a great community. :)

[[XC]thewildblue]

Im glad to see that we have renewed interest in gaining vault standings after achieveing numero uno in Rosetta.

Like I said before we need to choose a project and blitz it for a month and then we can gain some high standings quite quickly. The longer we wait the harder we have to work.

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

who's waiting? i'm already divided 50/50 between rosey and QMC ;)

[Jose]

Im glad to see that we have renewed interest in gaining vault standings after achieveing numero uno in Rosetta.

Like I said before we need to choose a project and blitz it for a month and then we can gain some high standings quite quickly. The longer we wait the harder we have to work.


There is not even a need to blitz for a month. Careful selection of projects will get us a lot of vault pints without scarificing the major projects. That is the beauty of a points systems like the vault that rewards with more points movement in projects where the initila standinng is low.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

who's waiting? i'm already divided 50/50 between rosey and QMC ;)


I am not waiting.

Currently I am spread like this.:cool:

3 x AMD DC on QMC
1 x DX on D2OL
2 x 1/2 DX on PrimeGrid
2 x 1/2 DX on Senenteen or Bust
5 x instances of dimes running

[Jose]

who's waiting? i'm already divided 50/50 between rosey and QMC ;)


Sorcerer when I say wait..it means lets really get very well organized and that is comming soon... the other DC teams are going to cry when they realize what hit them :) You are a living proof of what being disciplined and using ressources carefully and efficinetly can do for the benefit of all the teams you join.

BTW any one of you that can run the world community grid , eon or ubero thingies and leave them running unattended without sacrificing too much do so, and joint the XtremeSystems teams. While we are far away from number one on those projects the way the vault points are calculated, a lot of vault points will be gotten even with a slight movement.

[Jose]

I am not waiting.

Currently I am spread like this.:cool:

3 x AMD DC on QMC
1 x DX on D2OL
2 x 1/2 DX on PrimeGrid
2 x 1/2 DX on Senenteen or Bust
5 x instances of dimes running

Did you join our Prime Grid team? Only Melymel and I are shown as active in the roster?

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

Sorcerer when I say wait..it means lets really get very well organized and that is comming soon... the other DC teams are going to cry when they realize what hit them :) You are a living proof of what being disciplined and using ressources carefully and efficinetly can do for the benefit of all the teams you join.
:) *points at his MJ12 and DIMES scores while whistling* :D
all those other projects i run are merely filler for my CPU when it gets bored organizing packets and archiving crap for MJ12 :D

[[XC]thewildblue]

@Kaptain

What do you find it the best on memory resources as I find r@h to be the most hungry, specially for a DX when you are trying to run VMs as well. When I run qmc I found that was very good on memory.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

@Kaptain

What do you find it the best on memory resources as I find r@h to be the most hungry, specially for a DX when you are trying to run VMs as well. When I run qmc I found that was very good on memory.


Hachclash uses almost no memory neither does senenteern or bust.

you can run 2 instances of each on the same DX and still have 200mb free out of 512mb.

I am not sure about PrimeGrid yet, but i think rosetta was the worst about eating memory.

[[XC]melymel]

Memory usage for Primegrid i've seen range from 15-25mb per instance so it's quite good.

[[XC] moddolicous]

Something you guys have to understand is there are some people like DDTung that are allowed to install it on their work comps and dont have much access to them afterwords. So for someone like DDTung, I think a project that would be perfect would be seventeen and bust, as everyone has a large lead on us. With DDTung doing well in that, we can focus on other easy projects until any certain project needs a "stampede".

[Jose]

Something you guys have to understand is there are some people like DDTung that are allowed to install it on their work comps and dont have much access to them afterwords. So for someone like DDTung, I think a project that would be perfect would be seventeen and bust, as everyone has a large lead on us. With DDTung doing well in that, we can focus on other easy projects until any certain project needs a "stampede".


Please remeber that Victor is commited to Rosetta at least to the end of CASP 7 ( He has been clear on that and I think we should respect his wishes)

[[XC]thewildblue]

Hachclash uses almost no memory neither does senenteern or bust.

you can run 2 instances of each on the same DX and still have 200mb free out of 512mb.

I am not sure about PrimeGrid yet, but i think rosetta was the worst about eating memory.


Cheers for that. I will look at putting sob on a DX soon then.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

Cheers for that. I will look at putting sob on a DX soon then.

DX's owen in SOB, they are good for ~600g per day.

But if you only run 2 instances of SOB you still get ~400g per day and then you can run 2 instances of a BOINC project. That is what i do, you just stop SOB bench the comp with only 2 cpu's thus giving you a higher BMark and then restart SOB. That way you get maximum points from your machine.

[LP_]

I would love to see a separate forum for DC Vault or "other" DC projects.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

I was think that would be nice too. It seems the DIMES forum has become the DIMES etc. Forum. :D

[[XC]thewildblue]

Well I dont mind having the vault stuff here, seems to fit in fine in my view. Any stickies you guys want just let me know, start your own thread if you like so you can edit at your pleasure (im not always on) and if we feel it should be stickied I will do so.....hope that makes sense. Maybe we should rename the Dimes forum the DC Projects forum.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

are there any other BOINC projects that allow the use of optimized clients other than Rosetta, QMC, and HashClash?

I really like to run the ones with optimized clients.:stick:

I know these do not:
LHC
Predictor
PrimeGrid

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Has hashclash started sending out work yet?

[KaptainBlaZzed]

Has hashclash started sending out work yet?


No not yet, the server still has ~25,000 completed WU to process.

I think they need a better server.

[Jose]

are there any other BOINC projects that allow the use of optimized clients other than Rosetta, QMC, and HashClash?

I really like to run the ones with optimized clients.:stick:

I know these do not:
LHC
Predictor
PrimeGrid

I used to think the lack of acceptance of optimized clients by Prime Grid and Ztaki Desk could be a problem. ( Rememebre I am the ZtakiDesk Team LOL LOL ) In some ways it is not because the work units are processed so fast one accumulates a lot of points so one moves up fast. Also the more people with optimized clients into the mix the higher the chance two optimized computers get into the quorum and the quorum myth gets broken.

Again remember that these projects since few people are in and because we have a relatively low team position will reward us with more credits for the vault standing for every upward movements. This one of the cases we do not need even in the top 10 to get mucho primo vault points. :)

Again that's I why I have been repeating: lets hit the projects where we are in low position first: milk the fast and easy prime amount of vault points ; help MJ12 get to first, start the raids to get Dimes to First, redo DC history in Rosetta and get ready to pounce on all projects. The mere sight of XtremeSystems moving up will get the others team in a quandary of what project they are going to protect and fight us head to head. As they reorganize , we crunch them slowly but surely. ( I got inspired by DDTUNG's signature please read it and smile: he has things in perpespective.) The fun part is that this bunch of overclokers will beat them with their rules; rules that have been stacked against teams like ours. :)


Meditate on this one: what we dis in Rosetta we went to the top in less than 4 months, gave back close to 4 million points and came with a vengeance and in less than a month retook 1st place and ...shows our power and our discipline..imagine the others teams that know this seing us moving up im many projects at the same time while still doind Dimes and Roetta at seemingly full blast: the sense of doom will hit them and make them easier to hit .

[LP_]

I was think that would be nice too. It seems the DIMES forum has become the DIMES etc. Forum. :D

Right, and I don't run Dimes, so it seems funny to check here for other DC projects input.

[[XC] riptide]

Please remeber that Victor is commited to Rosetta at least to the end of CASP 7 ( He has been clear on that and I think we should respect his wishes)
Also remember that he's got a bunch of P4's that would be good on that seventeen or bust, but Like I said in the other threads.. CASP7... then take the world!

[Jose]

BTw for all of you interested in Vault standing
http://www.dc-vault.com/showteam.php?team=311 we went up to 28 to day most of the close to 4 k points that moved us up to 28 came from EON (where I am the only team member that I know of ) and Ubero ( Where again I am the only team member) This again shows who in the "lesser teams"a small move is rewarded better.

Look at the position we have at SETI ,,, that project can be milked for a lot of easy credits fast, if one can tolerate SETI. We could ask one of the renegade SETI Teams to join us as a subteam of Xtreme LOL LOL LO ...(Somebody shoot me please LOL )

[Jose]

Please read how instead of who eeck eeeck

[LP_]

EON (where I am the only team member that I know of )

I joined you on EON.



Look at the position we have at SETI ,,, that project can be milked for a lot of easy credits fast, if one can tolerate SETI.

Seti it will be then.. for awhile.

Brings back memories of my first dabblings with a DC project-

SETI@home member since 3 Apr 1999:)

[Jose]

I joined you on EON.




Wouza!!! I have a classy lady as a team mate , so let me get the champagne out to greet her.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

we are about to loose our #5 spot in QMC!!:mad:

i need some help ASAP.

bring on the :shoot: POWER!!

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

i'm crunchin 50/50 Rosey and QMC, so i'm there :)

[Movieman]

we are about to loose our #5 spot in QMC!!:mad:

i need some help ASAP.

bring on the :shoot: POWER!!
Got some coming for you today..as soon as I can find the damn app!:D
Ok, got one up and running..And I think NJKID is installing on his Opty170..
Yell if you need more!

[[XC]melymel]

damn there close we can't lose to a SETI team :eek: , I'll give it all the power i got

[KaptainBlaZzed]

Thanks for the help guys, i really appreciate it.


KB

[LP_]

Jose, you have to watch EON because pretty soon it will be sleeping.. sleeping..
meaning it has no work to do.

Ok guys, as soon as this Seti (yes Seti :p: ) unit finishes, I'll switch that tower over to QMD.
-------------------
Ok, it's on QMC now.

[[XC]thewildblue]

Moved an a64 @2500 over to help in qmc.

[Haltech]

SETI is just lame. I bet those guys dress up as starwars characters... I won't crunch SETI.Ill look at some of the other projects.

[[XC] moddolicous]

SETI is just lame. I bet those guys dress up as starwars characters... I won't crunch SETI.Ill look at some of the other projects.
I agree, but I'm sure I'll get yelled at by someone. Anything looking for aliens is weird. Since my P3 isnt doing much in rosetta, and we need it more in other places, what would you guys like me to put it on?? What project??

[[XC] riptide]

I bet those guys dress up as starwars characters... .
WTF! Never... Star Wars is just too class for those guys... they dress up in ET costumes and the like... You know the Roswell version of the alien... Big head and eyeys.. humanoid biped, and the rest of the BS! I think its one of the greatest wastes of PC CPU cycles and electricty in history. And its just getting worse, cos all new systems these days take larger power drain etc.... You know when I was in college i was Leading member of the Astronomy Society and some of these people wanted to use the comp for SETI... to hook it up to a dish and search for signals.... it never happened! I used it to look for :banana::banana::banana::banana:! ha ha ha!!!!

EDIT: Forgot ..... Sorry for the ladies that may be viewing...

[Haltech]

I had to give 2 guys time off just when the new starwars movie came out recently.. These 2 guys went to like ohio or some :banana::banana::banana::banana: and waited 2 weeks in some mass line, dressed as SS Storm Troopers.. I put them on :banana::banana::banana::banana:detail when they returned when i found out. Its sad when you see a 35 and 41 yr old playing starwars... Now i know why they arent married.

So, whats the breakdown on these projects? I have a gutless 754 clawhammer that needs some work.

[Jose]

There is one AND ONLY ONE very good reason for a team that wants to have Vault Dominance like we do to do SETI: the vault points formula rewards with more points upwards movement of teams that are down in the ranks... the lower the team in the ranks the more points the vault rewards you with. If you don't believe me check the vault standings today and please notice where are we getting the most points ( Hint: in those teams where we are under a 100 or even better still where we are under a thousand !!!!!.) The other case is when we start a new team!

So we are under 37500 at SETI. Care to guess how many vault points any significant upwards movement in SETI could get us ?

I don't like SETI for reasons that have nothing to do with ET ( I have problems finding intelligent live on Earth, thus I doubt there is intelligence outside our universe) but if we want Primo Vault points fast , SETI@Home , a new team (Notice how the new Climate Prediction Team just got us more than 2000 Vault points) or the teams where we are lower than 100, 1000, 2000, or 3000 are the way to go.

Also remember that the chances for being numero uno @ the Vault without having a significant presence in all the teams is hard (Drat 37000 is not significant)

[Jose]

I had to give 2 guys time off just when the new starwars movie came out recently.. These 2 guys went to like ohio or some :banana::banana::banana::banana: and waited 2 weeks in some mass line, dressed as SS Storm Troopers.. I put them on :banana::banana::banana::banana:detail when they returned when i found out. Its sad when you see a 35 and 41 yr old playing starwars... Now i know why they arent married.

So, whats the breakdown on these projects? I have a gutless 754 clawhammer that needs some work.


May I suggest Sztaki Desk or Get some people to run the World Community Grid or Ubero thingies or start one of the math projets where we dont have teams and we need the points.

[Jose]

I agree, but I'm sure I'll get yelled at by someone. Anything looking for aliens is weird. Since my P3 isnt doing much in rosetta, and we need it more in other places, what would you guys like me to put it on?? What project??


If memory doenst fail me one of the Sieve projects where we dont have a team likes P3s let me check for you?

Prime Sierpinski Problem - Sieve

Read all the info here http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=2665 I marked some stuff in red and posted it here.

What portion of the project to contribute?

The best part depends on your computer type. The sieve software doesn't work well on computers with Pentium-4 chips. So by default all P4's should participate in the PRP portion. Other fast computers might participate in the sieving or the PRP portion. Slow computers should stick with sieving, since the time it takes to sieve a work unit is constant and does not increase over work units, unlike PRP, where time increases exponentially over work units. Computers as slow as 166 MHz can also make some difference to the sieving portion of the project.



How to participate?

PRP: Use the automated network client if your computer has an Internet connection and you don't want to deal with installing work and submitting results. If you are without an Internet connection you can run the manual version of the client, but you will have to then manually reserve ranges and submit results. You could though reserve ranges from one computer with an Internet connection and then transfer the files to another computer with no Internet connection and then back to the first computer to submit results and get more work.

Note: - If you are on a LAN and have several machines or you are behind a firewall and cannot connect to the outside world, you can run your own server or proxy server that distributes numbers to your clients.

An illustrated guide for running the network/server client or the manual client for PRP can be found here.

Sieving: - We only have a manual client for this currently. We are working on an automated version.
An illustrated guide for running the manual sieve client can be found http://www.psp-project.de/guides/sieving.html

So as you can see P3s have an use still lol

Once the first credits to a person are posted in the project mb, a team can be formed and registered at the vault.

This gets use for some coputers that may not be usefull at Rosetta while we do great things at Rossetta.

[[XC] moddolicous]

Thanks Jose. Kinda busy studying tonight (last comp tomorrow) so I'll try to get it running soon.

[Jose]

I remember Comps.... ARGH!!!!!!! Good Luck man

[Haltech]

Interesting. Anyone is free to run SETI if they want. Im not wasting my time with ET's, but feel free.

This Sieve project doesnt seem very easy to setup... Its all manual, including submitting results via PM.. To much effort for me. I need automated tasks.

[Movieman]

Interesting. Anyone is free to run SETI if they want.
Im not wasting my time with ET's, but feel free.

We agree on this one but for different reasons. I just don't consider SETI the priority that I do with the other projects. I think the medical research is #1 priority whether it's Rosy,F@H, or even D2OL(YEECH!)
SETI may give DCVault points but I think it's a waste of what can be used better elsewhere. JUST my 2 centavlos..

[[XC] DragonOrta]

I've got the Prime project running on my laptop. Once I can start posting on their forums, I'll get the XtremeSystems team started.

[Jose]

We agree on this one but for different reasons. I just don't consider SETI the priority that I do with the other projects. I think the medical research is #1 priority whether it's Rosy,F@H, or even D2OL(YEECH!)
SETI may give DCVault points but I think it's a waste of what can be used better elsewhere. JUST my 2 centavlos..


To MM and Haltech: I agree with you regarding SETI: it is a waste of research time , it is lame and it is @@@ . So please do not read me as saying any major crunching resource investment should be done there. (I will not do SETI, unless ETs mother calls me at my house ...so fat chance)

But we cannot forget that there are math projects and physical science projects that need to be dealt with as very soon we will be dominating most if not all biological science projects and vault points will not be coming our way there. So, I for one will not deny anyone the chance to do some Seti , should they want.


Haltech want to have some automatic biological science projects: run the World Community Grid and Ubero. The nice thing about them is that you set them and forget them and they will give points without one even noticing. They are basically maintenance free and they are suitable for any computer that is slow and that cannot be used in those projects that need speed and a lot of power . The negative side of them is that they can take a lot of memory.

Again: I am pleased to see how we as a team deal with the vault issue. We do not improvise, we respect each others point of view, we do not force projects for projects sake ( we evaluate our rigs to see what they can do best and more important we evaluate ourselves to determine what gets our juices pumping), we keep supporting the Major projects at the level they need and very important: we help each teams effort when they need it,

We keep having fun while doing good.


Ps we moved up to 27 :)

[Jose]

Interesting. Anyone is free to run SETI if they want. Im not wasting my time with ET's, but feel free.

This Sieve project doesnt seem very easy to setup... Its all manual, including submitting results via PM.. To much effort for me. I need automated tasks.

Another automated task that is easy to set (it is a Boinc Project) is Sztaki Desk. The work units are short are processed fast. (The down side is their freaking quorum)

I agree with you : Sieve is hard to set up and report . But please remember that Sieve is not for everyone.. This is the place where P3s that otherwise are not being used optimally in another project can be used. Again, a person should enter a project that fits his computing profile best. We are in agreement that careful selection of projects is what makes the DC experience viable and useful for us.

Ps : I think you should sent ET a copy of your mug picture : the one with the big gun.... :D Once he sees what is waiting for him here, he will disconnect his phone. :p: :p: :p:

[LP_]

Ps : I think you should sent ET a copy of your mug picture : the one with the big gun.... :D Once he sees what is waiting for him here, he will disconnect his phone. :p: :p: :p:


I know it worked for me. :p: I got an immediate disconnect, and I'm on DSL. :explode2:

[[XC] DragonOrta]

I posted on the DC Vault forums about Leiden Classic and it not accepting new registrations, and if that affects it's DC Vault validity.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Do you think that we should maybe have a link to DC Vault in the first page? And maybe get the rest of the links to projects in there too.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

Do you think that we should maybe have a link to DC Vault in the first page? And maybe get the rest of the links to projects in there too.


That sounds like a great idea to me, and maybe including a little blurb about each project espically about which type of CPU the project prefers.

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

i think we need a updated project listing, with all vault projects we're currently participating in as well as a list of team captain(s) for given project, with appropriate links to setup guides etc for each project.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

TWB, you should just be able to quote this stuff into your first post so that all of the links are there. I added HashClash in too.


HashClash (http://boinc.banaan.org/hashclash) - CPU intensive
Majestic 12 (http://www.majestic12.co.uk/) - Bandwidth intensive
QMC@Home (http://qah.uni-muenster.de/) - CPU intensive
Rosetta@Home (http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta) - CPU intensive
RC5-72 and OGR-25 (http://www.distributed.net/) - CPU intensive
Red Library (http://www.readyresponse.org/index.php?item=distributed&opt=2) - Bandwidth intensive
Seventeen or Bust (http://www.seventeenorbust.com/) - CPU intensive
Sztaki Desktop Grid (http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg) - CPU intensive

[[XC] gomeler]

I would really like a detailed list of every project we are in and what these projects prefer. For example some projects prefer AMD over Intel while other projects really fly with netburst vs Core. I think it would also be helpful if we could merge all the teams? More communication would definetly help us to distribute our computing power more effectively. Rock on guys and lets keeping taking first place positions.

[[XC]thewildblue]

Added the main DC Vault link to the first post. I will work on getting a big list setup and the best system for each project.

[Jose]

Sztaki Desktop Grid (http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg) - CPU intensive

My experience with Sztaki is that the Boinc Manager does a good job of schedulling/coordinating the units along with your other Boinc Projects. In my case they seem to run without any hassles at all. I alloted a moderate ammount of resources when compared to Rosetta)

That said: what is aggravating about Sztaki is their freaking quorum and the way they hand out points/credits. They do run out of work as they did during the last day or two and worst, they have a weird way to decide how much work they send you ( I am trying to understand it)

If anyone of you decides to run Sztaki and wants to be the team leader , please contact me so I can transfer the administrative powers to you. Right now Iam the founder of Record and if memory doesnt fail me the only XtremeSystems Member that is running the project.

[Jose]

I think we have a very small simap team too but i'm not sure if it's taken up seriously. I think it's another cpu intensive one though. Good idea for the sticky though these projects needed their own place.

:toast:

The Simap team is a small one ( Right now we only have two people with credits: LP and I). Since it is a Boinc Project people with only a rig will see their work units organized to run by the Boinc Manager according to the schedulled date of return. That is why I wont be reporting Wu's for a while, Rosetta and other Boinc Projects have due date before my Simap units.)

Again I found this to be an easy set up and the units I have run have run without a hitch. This is one of the set it and forget it types of projects. It blends that easy in your Boinc Manager.

[heater918]

The Simap team is a small one ( Right now we only have two people with credits: LP and I). Since it is a Boinc Project people with only a rig will see their work units organized to run by the Boinc Manager according to the schedulled date of return. That is why I wont be reporting Wu's for a while, Rosetta and other Boinc Projects have due date before my Simap units.)

Again I found this to be an easy set up and the units I have run have run without a hitch. This is one of the set it and forget it types of projects. It blends that easy in your Boinc Manager.
Can you add Climate Prediction to the main list.

[LP_]

Can you add Climate Prediction to the main list.

What main list? It's already on the DC Vault site for XS. :confused:

Are you getting any points for CP yet? I have yet to get any new points after almost 24 hours running.

[Jose]

Remember that not all projects update to the Vault at the same time. Some are almost automatic and some are slow. Someone must be doing a lot at Climate Prediction for we have gained a lot of points there. That person should take a bow. :)

[heater918]

What main list? It's already on the DC Vault site for XS. :confused:

Are you getting any points for CP yet? I have yet to get any new points after almost 24 hours running.
I was refering to the 1st. post, i did not see it there and was not aware we had a team untill you posted your list. I had not looked at the DC Vault list.
I'm not on the team yet. Where do you get the password to join team?

[LP_]

I was refering to the 1st. post, i did not see it there and was not aware we had a team untill you posted your list. I had not looked at the DC Vault list.
I'm not on the team yet. Where do you get the password to join team?

Ok, I was confused. :)
The Vault list and website is here. (http://www.dc-vault.com/showteam.php?team=311)

Password for which project? There is no password for Climate Prediction?

[Jose]

Now If I could remember my eon pasword , I can get eon ready. Lp it is not the obvious one :(

[Rinsewand]

Theres no CPDN password. As for points, the WU's are split up as they are HUGE, so i think you get a certain number of points per 1% of the WU you do... Thats what ive been able to find so far. correct me if im wrong.

RwD

[LP_]

Now If I could remember my eon pasword , I can get eon ready. Lp it is not the obvious one :(

If you know the email address you signed up with, you can request your password.

Another tip- recipe file card holder and index cards, makes a good place to keep all your info. :)

[Jose]

If you know the email address you signed up with, you can request your password.

Another tip- recipe file card holder and index cards, makes a good place to keep all your info. :)


Yes mother :p: . Iam doing that. I also believe a copy of the account numbers and passwords should be kept with the administration and the moderators. Just incase a situation like mine (an olde phart that loosesforgets his information easily) or worst just in case one is called to the big vault in the sky. ( I am not being morbose , but death happens and not everyone in our families know about our DC and Vault teams . )

[LP_]

Yes mother :p:

Ahhh... that's a sign that my job is being done. :D

[bullet2urbrain]

pledge for an update.

just curious to see where we have teams and where i may be able to venture to get XS a fledgling team

[[XC]melymel]

pledge for an update.

just curious to see where we have teams and where i may be able to venture to get XS a fledgling team

tanpaku: http://issofty17.is.noda.tus.ac.jp/index_E.php would be a good way to spend some cycles. i think it is another protein folding one but XS is only 16th and has a rac of 1000 there and only 78k total. but the top team only has 700K and a 10k rac so it could be a nice project to get and dominate and isn't completely pointless ;) :toast:

[bullet2urbrain]

pledge for an update again James :D

and to add BeWeS and SpinHenge@Home

[XS_parts]

I put a few points on TSC. There's some dcv points there for the grabbing and they are easy points for a while yet. But those dcv points will help the medical end of it. We are at 14,000 tsc points, should move up to 55,000 TSC points after my addition. If we get up to around 140,000 tsc points, that would raise us up 1,000 dcv points in the medical section from where we started at the 14,000 with 8500.xxx dcv points. Which would help us in the overall dcv rankings.

[XS_parts]

Ahhhh those points were reflected in the new DCV stats. The tsc points moved us up from a Bio/med rank of #12, to #10, resulting in 691.22 more DCV points in Bio/med. It upped our overall dvc score up to 335,779.64 which gives more room between us and Team Norway who is trailing a little behind us in overall points. :up:

There are still some relatively easy points to gather in tsc. Getting up to an overall tsc team score of around 140,000 or so would give us approx 95xx.xx dcv points, without having to really get too serious about it.

The other one that would add some points in the misc. category is moneybee. Though I'm not a fan of that project really, but getting the team dcv score at least up into the 9xxx.xx range would give us more points in the overall without having to get very deep into moneybee.

I guess it really all boils down to whether there's enough people playing the dcv ranking game, or whether people are more concerned about getting team #1 positions. ?????
:shrug:

[[XC] 4X4N]

Awesome, thanks for that :toast:

I am currently focusing on projects were we have less than 8000 points. I think it is easier to move up in those.

On your last comment, you are right on, but that opens up a bigger discussion that usually leads to to no good. So, we all just keep crunching what we like :)

[XS_parts]

4X4N;2379420']Awesome, thanks for that :toast:

I am currently focusing on projects were we have less than 8000 points. I think it is easier to move up in those.

On your last comment, you are right on, but that opens up a bigger discussion that usually leads to to no good. So, we all just keep crunching what we like :)


Well after taking a look, there aren't too many options there I see in the sub 8000 range. But on the bright side, I see that the DPC aren't really so hot in the DC Vault overall rankings, like #13. So at least we have them beat in something! :ROTF:

And regarding the last comment and your reply, yep, people should crunch what they enjoy. After all, that's basically why they got into this stuff to begin with. :)

[Paladin]

The other one that would add some points in the misc. category is moneybee. Though I'm not a fan of that project really, but getting the team dcv score at least up into the 9xxx.xx range would give us more points in the overall without having to get very deep into moneybee.

I think I'm the last one to have done some Moneybee (LBM before me). Right now there is a large # of positions between us and the next Vaulted team so it's not the most effective use of time/DCV_points.

In OGR25 I'm getting 10-20 points/day that yields 300-600/month which isn't bad. How many days did it take to get that nice TSC dump? I only run non-BOINC projects (at least til they fix BOINC benchmark to get the same result 3 times in a row) so I'd consider doing some TSC.

[XS_parts]

Hi Paladin, nice to meet you. :)

At the rate I'm crunching now with the stuff online and applied to d2ol, I'm doing roughly 3,100 points a day. So twenty days or so would give me around 60k. I would go ahead and do it, but I'd probably get the d2ol guys jumping down my throat as they/we are in a running battle at the moment with those pesky cows.

However if you could put some systems on it, I would put some on to help you so we could get up to at least 100k in tsc. That would get us some more realatively easy dcv points before the climbing really started to get a bit steep.

So what is your daily output in ogr-25?

[Paladin]

As I said "...10-20 points/per day...".
My OGR-25 history is easily viewable:
http://stats.distributed.net/participant/phistory.php?project_id=25&id=305094

Still wondering how long it took you to crunch that TSC dump. Not D2OL & not theoretical future possible output. Was it just points you had already that just carried over when you joined the team?

[[XC] 4X4N]

Hey Paladin, if you're wondering about daily output, here are a couple of examples of a few different set-ups. I ran tsc for a while and it pretty much the same as d2ol. x2 3800 at 2.8 does about 380-400 a day running 2 clients. An opty 144 at 2.9, about 180-190. e6600 at 3.6, 420-440 a day. Amd vs Intel doesn't seem to make much difference.

[Paladin]

Thanks 4x4, that's what I was wondering. So about 200/day/core on modern CPUs.

[XS_parts]

As I said "...10-20 points/per day...".
My OGR-25 history is easily viewable:
http://stats.distributed.net/participant/phistory.php?project_id=25&id=305094

Still wondering how long it took you to crunch that TSC dump. Not D2OL & not theoretical future possible output. Was it just points you had already that just carried over when you joined the team?

I was wondering what your mnode production was. :)

As for how long it took to crunch those, I can't tell because some days I had multiple systems and some only one, some days I didn't crunch. I don't track by individual system. Some of the points were carried over, and some were crunched.

Your guess of a couple hundred a day is a good average to figure on for estimating purposes. The latest models will put out close to double that.

[XS_parts]

Was just over on the FDC forum and there is a post in there that they may even be looking at November for the end of ogr-25. Don't know is that is for this sequence on stubs, or the 25 project. Only reason I mention it is that from a dcr points perspective, the points may not be lasting that long if the project goes down. Might be better off putting the computer time into an effort that will last a while. ???

[Paladin]

OGR-25 is still on-going. They just completed Phase 2 is all. Means larger/longer sequences to be tested now. I get about 14,000 Gnodes/day total (from Condor, DeXter, Allendale).

RC5-72 and all subsequent RC5 challenges have been cancelled by RSA (the people that were offering the $10,000 prize for each level of encryption cracked. I think distributed.net had a user-vote and decided to continue RC5-72 just for global-warming's sake.


It is with great sadness that we must announce that RSA Labs has
decided to terminate the RSA Secret-Key Challenge, which impacts the
RC5-72 project and all of the remaining RC5 challenges. This means
that RSA Labs will not confirm any solutions or award any additional
prizes, should a correct solution be found. Furthermore, we have
received a statement indicating that they will not be disclosing the
solutions to the unsolved challenges. More details can be found on
http://www.rsa.com/rsalabs/node.asp?id=2100 (Note that the page should
state that the RC5-32/12/8 solution was recovered on 14 July 2002, not
28 January 1997.)

Although RSA Labs is halting their official sponsorship, there is
still the option open to us to continue the project without their
prize or validation. We would like to solicit your feedback regarding
this option. Discussion is welcome on our rc5 mailing list (see
http://lists.distributed.net/mailman/listinfo/rc5 if you are not
already a member). In the coming days, we will provide a facility to
allow official votes to be made.

I even buy 100% recycled printer paper (which is double regular paper cost for some odd reason) & use each side, so RC5 is now a no-no for me. The original RC5-56 was the first distributed project I ever ran back in 1997 for Team #2 (Team AMD).

[[XC] riptide]

I even buy 100% recycled printer paper (which is double regular paper cost for some odd reason) & use each side, so RC5 is now a no-no for me. The original RC5-56 was the first distributed project I ever ran back in 1997 for Team #2 (Team AMD).

Damn! What did you run it on?

[Paladin]

riptide;2386581']Damn! What did you run it on?
Back then I had an AMD-K6 based PC and a bunch of Amigas. <--:horse:

[XS_parts]

[QUOTE=Paladin;2386537]OGR-25 is still on-going. They just completed Phase 2 is all. Means larger/longer sequences to be tested now. I get about 14,000 Gnodes/day total (from Condor, DeXter, Allendale).

RC5-72 and all subsequent RC5 challenges have been cancelled by RSA (the people that were offering the $10,000 prize for each level of encryption cracked. I think distributed.net had a user-vote and decided to continue RC5-72 just for global-warming's sake./QUOTE]

Now what in the world would a crypto project have to do with global warming????

[[XC] riptide]

Right... We need a few Vaulters to start pushing the conquest, and the strategy forward. Anyone got any ides what to start hitting?

[vaio]

P...O....E......oh, nevermind :p:

[[XC] riptide]

P...O....E......oh, nevermind :p:

:) Well what way are we fixed in teh vault for this?

[vaio]

One of your weaker projects methinks.
You could easily gain 400-500 vault points with a little push.

The only real challenge to a concerted XS effort would be 3d now and ESL.

Rest of us are relatively lightweight.

[vaio]

If you want to draw on my vault battleplan experience I'll happily draw you guys up an assault plan.

After all I did (once) guide a small team as high as 8th :p:

If you'd like my services just holler :)

[[XC] riptide]

Holler!

[vaio]

Is it urgent?
Will have a look when I can but am busy til Thursday.

A quick peak shows me you are a lil weak at both Poem and Malariacontrol.

Those 2 would be a start........they could add the best part of 1000 vault points.

Will look through your rankings thoroughly when I get a lil more time :)

[[XC] riptide]

Is it urgent?
Will have a look when I can but am busy til Thursday.

A quick peak shows me you are a lil weak at both Poem and Malariacontrol.

Those 2 would be a start........they could add the best part of 1000 vault points.

Will look through your rankings thoroughly when I get a lil more time :)

Its not urgent... but hurry up anyways. :D

[vaio]

Made a start (http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?t=196920):p:

[[XC] riptide]

Saw that. Very good