***Official nFORCE2 Bandwidth Thread!***

[sysfailur]

Since alot of us have nforce2 boards, and OPP mentioned that a new bandwidth thread should be started up, I thought I'd go ahead and get one goin.

Keep in mind, this is strictly for nforce2 based motherboards and just the sisoft sandra memory benchmark. And let's keep it in sync and dual channel (if you can). Feel free to list your mods, your bios, etc, so that we can all learn from each other :)

______________

I'll start it off by posting what I think will most likely be max FSB attainable with my A7N8X.

A quick overview of mods, 1.9v on the chipset, 3.12v on the memory, 1002.001 beta bios, cpu_fsb jumper @ 100, new battery, 85w peltier + chilled water on the core (-5 to -8C temps). My PSU is also vmodded and gives me 5.15V under load approximately (not sure if that affects the high clock.) Memory is 2 sticks of XMS3500 (winbond -5ns) in DC 100% sync.

EDIT: Timings were 2.5-7-3-3 @ 240mhz. 2-6-2-2 @ 236mhz

http://www.maximumoc.com/img/hardware/asus_nforce2/240mhz.jpg

[H¥percUbe]

Great!!!!
mine compliments!!!
The system running rock solid?
There's a tutorial for modding A7N8X?

[Drozdov]

nice bandwith sys, what are ya timings?

[starck]

Here's mine @225, no vmods, DC100% sync'ed, 2x512mb Corsair XMS3500c2. vcore@1.85v, vmem@2.8v, 3dmark benchable but not that stable. 2700+ unlocked. Will push it further with my newly arrived Prometeia very soon :D

http://www.yenz.net/benches/fsb225.jpg

[sysfailur]

HÂ¥percUbe: I'll have a guide up soon on how exactly I did everything on my site, Maximum OC. And as for rock solid, I could bench sandra, I could do most things in windows, I didn't try PCMark2002 but I will give that a shot eventually. Speaking of PCMark I scored 6464 @ 232 2-6-2-2.... was just testing.

Drozdov: Silly me I forgot to put it in... 2.5-7-3-3. 236mhz I can do 2-6-2-2 though. ;) (I will edit my post w/ this info.)

[H¥percUbe]

Okkk. Thankz!!
i'd like to view PCmark & 3DMark screenshot ;)

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by HÂ¥percUbe
Okkk. Thankz!!
i'd like to view PCmark & 3DMark screenshot ;)

I'll upload em tomorrow, heading to bed now :cool:

[bigjohns97]

Can you post an unbuffered sandra bench at the low timings.

[X Men SS]

Here's my bandwith @ 10.5x230 ...

And here's my PCMark2002 score @ 225MHz, both sync and SC DDR :rolleyes: ...

CPU : 7604
Mem : 6300

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm=1109227

[spaceboy]

here's mine by now
on 8rda vdd modded

2.84vdimm is a POS


http://digilander.libero.it/spaceboyz/233x11sanmem.jpg

[H¥percUbe]

Good Result,
it's rock solid?

[spaceboy]

Originally posted by HÂ¥percUbe

Good Result,
it's rock solid?




wellÃ:banana: Ciao :)
yes it's rock solid and 3dmarkable 233 dual channel, till 228 is quite easy

i'd better go with NF7 1.2 or 8RDA+ then A7N8X ,altought Sys got an impressive fsb with that ;)

[morphling1]

http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Benchmarks/3645.jpg

Kingston Hyperx 3500 2*256 MB/s cas2.5 6,2,2 vdd 1,98V vdimm 2.86V, this all with normal watercooled NB in warm room, no xtreme mothods, I'll try those soon :D

Like Spaceboy wrote POS Vdimm. I'm thinking of modding but can't decide if it's worth it, oh yeah Epox 8RDA here with 3117 bios, btw Spaceboy that helped a lot. With my previous latest bios, I got BSOD loading windows even at 230 in normal room temperature conditions

[sjohnson]

That is really, REALLY nice morphling1. Congrats on a fine workup!

[sysfailur]

I think I'm gonna lower my resistance a smidget (slap on a smaller resistor rather) and try for some higher fsb... not sure if that'll do it but it's worth a shot.

[Method Man]

2x Corsair PC3500 XMS running dual channel in timings 4, 2, 2, 2 Vdimm 2.77V

Vdd @ 1.60 not Vdd moded "yet"

[OPPAINTER]

Dual Kingston HyperX 3500s,, 256Mb sticks,, 3.1V,, 7-2-2 CL 2.5
Epox 8RDA,, Chipset voltage at 1.9V

OPP

[Dissolved]

heres mine.. Not great at all..

[twiggy]

Corsair 3500 2-7-3-3 @2.7v on a NF7. VDD@1.8v.

[morphling1]

Wow huge score there OPP, let me see if I can get anything more out of my mem. with chilled water on NB :)

[spaceboy]

we need Vdimm Morph :);)

[morphling1]

LOL yes we desperatly do :D I just bough trimmers today so if I wont' be able to get higher with chilled water, I'll do the mod this weekend.

[spaceboy]

i don't like to do extreme Vmod on POS mobos
my KX7 was a rock so i did 3 mod and still works great but i'm afraid that this 8rda could die on me anytime :(

[morphling1]

Hehe ,as they say: if you wanna make the omelet, you need to brake some eggs :D

[ctgilles]

Nice :toast: your the man :D
Great bandwidth goodness, makes me wanna void my warranty :D

[Rodkorn]

Originally posted by sysfailur
Since alot of us have nforce2 boards, and OPP mentioned that a new bandwidth thread should be started up, I thought I'd go ahead and get one goin.

Keep in mind, this is strictly for nforce2 based motherboards and just the sisoft sandra memory benchmark. And let's keep it in sync and dual channel (if you can). Feel free to list your mods, your bios, etc, so that we can all learn from each other :)

______________

I'll start it off by posting what I think will most likely be max FSB attainable with my A7N8X.

A quick overview of mods, 1.9v on the chipset, 3.12v on the memory, 1002.001 beta bios, cpu_fsb jumper @ 100, new battery, 85w peltier + chilled water on the core (-5 to -8C temps). My PSU is also vmodded and gives me 5.15V under load approximately (not sure if that affects the high clock.) Memory is 2 sticks of XMS3500 (winbond -5ns) in DC 100% sync.

EDIT: Timings were 2.5-7-3-3 @ 240mhz. 2-6-2-2 @ 236mhz

http://www.maximumoc.com/img/hardware/asus_nforce2/240mhz.jpg

Sorry, this may be a n00b question... sysfailur how did you get to 240Mhz FSB if A7N8X is supposed to support only 211Mhz FSB??? (I think so :rolleyes: )

Sorry if I'm wrong... thanx, bye!

[morphling1]

You should flash bios sometimes, and you will see some changes, up to 250 I think :D

[Rodkorn]

wow, such a big change just flashing BIOS??? great!!!

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by Rodkorn
wow, such a big change just flashing BIOS??? great!!!

Well the option to get to 250 is there but it would be mighty tricky to hit it! And without a chipset voltage mod or memory voltage mod on the A7N8X don't expect to get much past 205-210. :(

[morphling1]

Yeah, finaly made vddr/vbt mod on 8rda+ So I charged my Kingston with 3.23V and got this

[sysfailur]

Nice job!! *gets bumped to 3rd place* :( hehe

[muzz]

This is my old board ( still has a chance at life- but doesn't want to work right now, and may never again).
4-2-2-2 timings 238fsb ( sandra says 239) 1.77vdd ( wish I went a little higher with this board b4 it went belly up)2.9vdimm
2x256 Corsair XMS3500c2 ,slots 1+2 ( I think it was c10 bios)

I never cut the L12 bridge on this 2600+/333 chip, but I did remove the JCLK jumper.
EDIT: 8RDA+ Rev1.0
http://home.attbi.com/~gpl08/238_fsb_4222_timings_3708_Sandra_says_239_fsb.jpg

[morphling1]

Great score there muzz, I'm just slightly behind you with this one 7,3,3 2.5

[muzz]

XLNT score there morphling....... :thumbsup: , the 1.1 I have now doesn't run as good as that board did at 1.8 vdd...... still looking into what I can do to make it better......... wonder if the L12 will do anything for me? I know bowman said it did for his, and he has the same chip I do ( 2600+/333).... considering it.

[morphling1]

XLNT ? sorry I'm not realy good with those abbrevations :)
What should L12 do ?
Oh yeah I squeeze a little more out of my mem, just a little to past you :)
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Benchmarks/mem%20rec2.GIF
I forget cpuid, but it was the sam fsb as before, just timings 8,2,2, 2.5

[sysfailur]

Damn I lose :( hehe Methinks I need to crank up tha chipset voltage! Rawr! ;P

[muzz]

XLNT= Excellent.....
I am regretting not cooling my old boards NB with at least a wb, and even better a wb/pelt combo and raising the vdd to 1.85+....... that board was rockin' at the lowly 1.77 missed opportunity there... I don't trust this board as much as that 1.....and have 2 156w pelts, but the wb I have does not fit, and I would have to design a hold down out of some strap metal and bolts....been thinking about that also, as this one stops around 233/234. may lower the resistance a bit... heheheh

Nice bench:toast:

[Method Man]

I finally worked up enough balls to do the VDD mod and looky at what I got running dual channel :banana:

[muzz]

Those balls got to heavy for you to drag around anymore huh MM....:bounce: :bounce: hehehehehe

Good job man....... looking good there.:thumbsup:

[Method Man]

Ya muzz those balls were getting pretty heavy :D


Anyways nice score to you too, I will see if I can get higher later, I just need to put a fresh OS on there again as I just killed it pushing a little to high :smileysex

[muzz]

I would ghost an image right after you do an install if it were me..... that way you don't have to keep reloading the whole thing after/if it gets corrupt.. loading an image takes about 5 minutes.:D

[Method Man]

ya I should make a ghost image...I have just been to lazy/ forgot to in the past :eek:

[muzz]

Thats unacceptable...........;) :D

[Dissolved]

So are most of these high mem benches comming from the epos's?

[morphling1]

Yeps, because no matter how big the pos is, it's still the best mobo out :D

[hollywood]

Guys help..I have an issue

I have the MSI K7N2-L nForce 2 motherboard, a wiretricked Athlon XP 2400+ and Kingston HyperX PC3500.

I'm at max FSB @ 200 my ram only does 3,3,7 and the CPU won't go beyond 2.2 Ghz. I'm using AS3 on the CPU and a HHC-001 HSF...Temps are NOT a problem. I'm running this as of now:

CPU @ 2.2 Ghz 1.675 V

FSB @ 200 (DDR400)

Mem @ 3,3,7 2.5V

Now I know one thing, the MSI doesn't allow VDIMM adjustments...so I'm stuck at 2.5V....At DDR400 FSB Dual channel is VERY UNSTABLE, while single channel works fine...Is that whats keeping me from the 2,2,6 settings EVERYONE seems to have?!?!?! Also..the damn MSI doesn't allow over 200Mhz on the FSB..so what do I do???

Do I have to buy an ABIT NF7 V1.2?? Or is there any hope for the MSI??? Any suggestions are welcome as I want to move to the next level! :D

[sysfailur]

Hollywood... I would have to say that you'll need more VDD (chipset) voltage to stay stable in dual channel. You might also want to try TIGHTER timings believe it or not that might work. Also check for bios updates constantly!

[hollywood]

Thats the problem SYS...it seems that the damn K7N2-L has NO fix for the VDIMM settings. Anyone here heard of a fix for us poor, wretched MSI users?!?

[hollywood]

I just realized that you meant Chipset voltage (VDD) Duh...Man...That means I may have to slap on a better HSF for the northbrige and do a VDD mod on my mobo...hmm...wonder if there's any mods for the K7N2-L out yet. Now as far as the ram voltage..I think MSI will resolve the issue via a new BIOS..but it's already up to version 3.3 (started at 3.1) and they still have yet to fix the VDIMM issue..

[Liquid3D]

You guys are absolutely sick!!! These have to be the highest scores on the Planet!!! This forum houses the best overclockers on the Internet without question. Congrats'! I better get my nForce2 board ASAP! "This is madness!" (think of Phebe's voice, and intonation)

[Iolao]

this is mine :)

http://digilander.libero.it/mybenchmark/sandra230.jpg

This is with vdd at 2.00v and vdimm at 2.85v (real)
Timings are cas2 4-2-2

I'm using 3129 bios because of cold boot bug resolved, do you think I can squeeze out some more bandwith using earlier beta bios?

[ctgilles]

sweet :)
gotta get me some pelt action :)

[gtcrispy]

Heres my bench using some nice cheap PC3200 Twinmos :) $57/stick.
Running 3-2-2-2 @2.9V Vdd@1.9

http://207.44.156.21/~admin309/benchmarks/8rda_232_membandwith.jpg

[CCtaylor]

http://216.240.159.13/Public%20Folder/CC%20mem%202.jpg

[sysfailur]

CCtaylor, this thread is for nforce2 boards _ONLY_. Nothing else.

[Kamerat]

My 8RDA+ @ 231MHz 1,85V running Xerox PC2700 (Samsung chips) @ sync 2,9V.
T(RAS)=7
T(RCD)=4
T(RP)=4
CAS Latency=2,5
http://home.no/kameraten/pc/xerox_pc2700_512mb_@231,0mhz_8rdap.png

@227MHz (my everyday 100% stable):
T(RAS)=6
T(RCD)=4
T(RP)=4
CAS Latency=2,5
http://home.no/kameraten/pc/xerox_pc2700_512mb_@227,0mhz_8rdap.png

[Michaelangelo]

Now I'll have an awesome database to work with when I get an nForce2. Probably going w A-bit's NF7S-ver. 1.2. It look s like it will be the best one out. For now.:D

[saaya]

it is? what makes the bit board better? more options higher options? new chipset revision?:confused:

[spaceboy]

a little update

8RDA+ dual channel


http://digilander.libero.it/spaceboyz/238-dual.jpg

[Michaelangelo]

I'm guessing it has either a PCI lock in the BIOS or they put the one sixth divider in there or both. A friend got his UPS tracking number on his w/a new T-Bred B 2100. So he should be getting his on Thurs. So we'll see what the things got. Excaliber PC has a combo deal w/the CPU & the new NF7-S 1.2 for a low low price. You'd think I work for them. Anyways, you would've had to order over the weekend to get one this week. They get a new shipment in every week. But they sell out almost immediatly. :)

[OPPAINTER]

NF7 at 250 :D

OPP

[spaceboy]

the NB is only watercooled or do you put the TEC on?
1.96v?

[morphling1]

:toast: Opp
And I also wonder what kind of cooling you use to achieve that, plus voltages & timings

[Greyfire]

That's awesome OPP. With the rev 1.2 I assume? Also: How? ;)

[OPPAINTER]

Its only one stick at 7-2-2-2.5,, I am still only water cooling the NB. I was useing 2.1V VDD, 3.1V on the mem.
I was at 10x 250.

OPP

[morphling1]

wow, such great score with single channel, Sandra must realy like FSB :) Is that with Kingstons ? What about DC how high can you get ?

[muzz]

WTG OPP :thumbsup:

Not many hit 250.

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by morphling1
wow, such great score with single channel, Sandra must realy like FSB :) Is that with Kingstons ? What about DC how high can you get ?

I'm not sure how many have seen this as this thread is kinda hard to find, but on this thread, 3 Finnish guys got sick overclocks on the A7N8X Dlx.... 250mhz DUAL channel 2-4-2-2, 250mhz dual channel 2-5-2-2, and 242mhz dual channel!

250mhz 2-5-2-2 gave 3901/3669!!! ===> http://users.kymp.net/p203463a/A7N8X/210203/sandra250cas2225d.gif

[spaceboy]

now i know cause i got lower score at 238 Dual than other users

on 8RDA 7-2-2 is better than 5-2-2 :rolleyes:

[morphling1]

Originally posted by sysfailur
I'm not sure how many have seen this as this thread is kinda hard to find, but on this thread, 3 Finnish guys got sick overclocks on the A7N8X Dlx.... 250mhz DUAL channel 2-4-2-2, 250mhz dual channel 2-5-2-2, and 242mhz dual channel!

250mhz 2-5-2-2 gave 3901/3669!!! ===> http://users.kymp.net/p203463a/A7N8X/210203/sandra250cas2225d.gif

FOOOOK, what the hell are they using LN2 on NB and memory itself or what :D:D

[gecko991]

Thats incredible for an A7N8X

[muzz]

Yeah Sys I saw that.... the guy disturbed posted that here.
Great clock for certain:thumbsup:

[DisposableHero]

Originally posted by spaceboy
now i know cause i got lower score at 238 Dual than other users

on 8RDA 7-2-2 is better than 5-2-2 :rolleyes:

really?!

[ctgilles]

http://www.ctgilles.net/images/overclocking/2.8GHZ/mem_2.8G.jpg
Just aircooled :) I should reboot, and take that 230 screenshot ... Ah, will do :)

[ctgilles]

Got it up a bit ;)
*needs colder room* :D

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by ctgilles
Got it up a bit ;)
*needs colder room* :D

Come on over to visit me... it's frigid here! Got down to like -5C last night. We'll just open the winders :P hehe

[B4E]

My FSB with 8RDA bios 8RD13305 (NO Vdd MOD!!!)

http://digilander.libero.it/LunaRottaByCinoRicci/FILES/My_FSB.JPG

Sandra is not important cause I can't use synch RAM/FSB...my XMS 333 doesn't work correctly over 205MHz...

...but FSB without Vdd MOD is very impressive!!!:banana:

CYA

[spaceboy]

u can go till 240 without mod in Async mode ...

[B4E]

Sorry, but I don't understand!!!

Could I go till 240MHz in asynch...but not in synch???

Help me for understanding!!!

CYA

P.S: Sorry 4 my english

[ztop]

219 no vdd mod?!north cooling?dual or single channel?can you run sandra or sup-pi at 219?

[B4E]

Single channel...only a 5x5 fan over the SPP's original dissy

Yes I can close Super PI & Sandra memory test, but my memory is asynch with FSB because XMS 333 doesn't work at 219MHz...so I setted them to 83% !!!

This is my screenshot with this configuration

http://digilander.libero.it/LunaRottaByCinoRicci/FILES/Ram_asynch_FSB.JPG


http://digilander.libero.it/LunaRottaByCinoRicci/FILES/SuperPI_FSB.JPG

CYA

[muzz]

Originally posted by B4E
Single channel...only a 5x5 fan over the SPP's original dissy

Yes I can close Super PI & Sandra memory test, but my memory is asynch with FSB because XMS 333 doesn't work at 219MHz...so I setted them to 83% !!!

This is my screenshot with this configuration

http://digilander.libero.it/LunaRottaByCinoRicci/FILES/Ram_asynch_FSB.JPG


http://digilander.libero.it/LunaRottaByCinoRicci/FILES/SuperPI_FSB.JPG

CYA
You will get higher performance running fsb/mem synched than asynch.... at 200mhz synch those scores in Sandra will be in the 2900 -3000(INT- Buffered) range.... try it. Do some benching of different apps like sandra/pcmark/3dmark/games synch( around 200mhz, or the best you can do synch), and I think you will see what I am trying to say B4E.

[B4E]

Originally posted by muzz
You will get higher performance running fsb/mem synched than asynch.... at 200mhz synch those scores in Sandra will be in the 2900 -3000(INT- Buffered) range.... try it. Do some benching of different apps like sandra/pcmark/3dmark/games synch( around 200mhz, or the best you can do synch), and I think you will see what I am trying to say B4E.


Sure, I know what you mean, but I wanted to see where I could arrive with my FSB.

My RAM works max at 414MHz...so I coudn't test it with higher FSB!
CAS2.5 6-3-3

Below my screenshot in this case.

http://digilander.libero.it/LunaRottaByCinoRicci/FILES/testram.JPG

CYA

[Morkai]

Asus A7N8X modded
Sandra mem (http://www.skenegroup.net/dfi_modit/242_sa.PNG)
3Dmark 2001 (http://www.skenegroup.net/dfi_modit/3dmark.PNG)

[muzz]

Ahhh much better B4E.........
Morkai nice fsb speeds :D
Looks like single channel ... still good:thumbsup:

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by muzz
Ahhh much better B4E.........
Morkai nice fsb speeds :D
Looks like single channel ... still good:thumbsup:

Actually I think that's dual channel, but lower timings. I scored 10 lower on the Int, but scored 19 higher on the Float w/ my dual chan @ 2.5-7-4-4... so maybe he was using worse timings? Not sure.

[gecko991]

Deluxe@216, Corsair XMS with relaxed timings

[ctgilles]

Originally posted by sysfailur
Come on over to visit me... it's frigid here! Got down to like -5C last night. We'll just open the winders :P hehe

Ok :) pay me a ticket Belgium - sysfalur's place :p

[Morkai]

Originally posted by muzz
Ahhh much better B4E.........
Morkai nice fsb speeds :D
Looks like single channel ... still good:thumbsup:

Yes it's SC. 3th ram slot won't work above 220Mhz reliably when benching 3D, allthought pifast and sandra mem test work just fine 242MHz DC. (4-2-2-2 3.2V Kingston HyperX PC3000)

[VoraciousGorak]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Dual Kingston HyperX 3500s,, 256Mb sticks,, 3.1V,, 7-2-2 CL 2.5
Epox 8RDA,, Chipset voltage at 1.9V

OPP

Of course, leave it to OPP to leave no room for competition... like my generic PC2700 could stand a chance anyway.

OPP, do you run SETI? If so, how long does it take to complete a WU?

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by ctgilles
Ok :) pay me a ticket Belgium - sysfalur's place :p

I can't even fathom what that would cost :P Btw guys.. I've got a plan to hit 250mhz dual channel with my setup. I aint done yet!

[Morkai]

VoraciousGorak: if you are intrested here is my seti@home (http://iltaa.no-ip.info/history.htm?user=3388344) times.

[umekami10]

11.5X147
Memory timing 7-3-2-2.5


http://hem.spray.se/umeimak10/epoxnforce8rma/barton/sandra/247.jpg



http://www.thenakedreview.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=347



Barton 2500 AQUCA 0303VPBW
EPOX 8RDA+
2X256MB TwinMos PC 3200
HD :IMB 30GIG-7200
VGA matrox 4MB pci
PS:Antec 400W
Cooling: Prometiea
Win 2000 pro
Vddr: 3.02V
VDD :1.9V
Vcore:2.1V

[Chong345]

Damn thats a lot of bandwith. :D

Chong

[Learn]

HI

8rda+ 1.0 A2 north (all mod), ddr3.1v, mem 7,2,2,2, 2700+ aiugb 0244

http://membres.lycos.fr/ftpad/images/3702.png

8rda+ 1.1 A2 north, vdd and vddr mod,
vddr 3.1v, vdd 2.1v, 1600+ agoia 4, mem 2.5/4/4/7
http://membres.lycos.fr/ftpad/images/memory-fsb-244.png


and with my new nf7-s 1.2 A3 north, and my 2500+ aquca 0303 vpbw

vdd mod 1.95v, vddr = 2.9 bios = 3.01, v-core 1.6v, mem 2.5/3/3/7

http://membres.lycos.fr/ftpad/images/ABIT-NF7-S/3745.png

[muzz]

Excellent as usual Learn.....:thumbsup:

[OPPAINTER]

NF7 and Barton 2500 at 250x10, Kingston 3500 HyperX dual channel 3-2-2-2.5 timings
I can't seem to get it to run at cas2:( Does 3d mark and everything:)

OPP

[ctgilles]

Originally posted by sysfailur
Come on over to visit me... it's frigid here! Got down to like -5C last night. We'll just open the winders :P hehe

Did I mention that I can get my ambient to -25°C :D hehe

[Learn]

Originally posted by muzz
Excellent as usual Learn.....:thumbsup:

i try :D

[Learn]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
NF7 and Barton 2500 at 250x10, Kingston 3500 HyperX dual channel 3-2-2-2.5 timings
I can't seem to get it to run at cas2:( Does 3d mark and everything:)

OPP

WOW :eek:

[muzz]

Nice work OPP:toast:

[OPPAINTER]

Anybody seen any higher then this for an AMD setup?
250x11,, Kingston HyperX @ 3-2-2 Cas2.5

OPP

[muzz]

I don't know OPP, if I have I dont remember it..
Great Job:thumbsup:

[cpulloverclock]

Originally posted by umekami10
11.5X147
Memory timing 7-3-2-2.5


http://hem.spray.se/umeimak10/epoxnforce8rma/barton/sandra/247.jpg



http://www.thenakedreview.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=347



Barton 2500 AQUCA 0303VPBW
EPOX 8RDA+
2X256MB TwinMos PC 3200
HD :IMB 30GIG-7200
VGA matrox 4MB pci
PS:Antec 400W
Cooling: Prometiea
Win 2000 pro
Vddr: 3.02V
VDD :1.9V
Vcore:2.1V great but this bench is better :confused:

249X10.5 Aggressive
Timing 7-3-2-2.5

UMEKAMI

http://hem.spray.se/umeimak10/epoxnforce8rma/barton/sandra/249.57agg-7-3-2-2.5.jpg

[Lunatic]

what cooling do you guys have @ southbridge when hitting that high fsb?

[Shroomalistic]

hey OPP, I've got the nf7-s ver1.2 - I cant cant even get it to 250 single stick let alone two sticks at any multiplier. My board is vmem modded and vdd modded. I've got a watercooled chipset and cpu. My temps dont go above 30c at any voltage. I have a decent heatsink on my southbridge, do i need any thing on any other chips? I have 2x 256 kingston hyper x, and an awsome 2100 t-bred "b"

[Method Man]

Has anyone ever broke 4k with an amd system yet? Thats my goal:p

[swissocer]

damn the best i can handle with my 8rda+ (unmodded)
and a stick of 3200xms is 210mhz fsb
http://www.pbase.com/image/14849956/original

[Lunatic]

Originally posted by swissocer
damn the best i can handle with my 8rda+ (unmodded)
and a stick of 3200xms is 210mhz fsb
http://www.pbase.com/image/14849956/original thats pretty good, beacuse i have not seen so many 8rda+ unmodded go above 200mhz

[Lunatic]

Originally posted by Shroomalistic
hey OPP, I've got the nf7-s ver1.2 - I cant cant even get it to 250 single stick let alone two sticks at any multiplier. My board is vmem modded and vdd modded. I've got a watercooled chipset and cpu. My temps dont go above 30c at any voltage. I have a decent heatsink on my southbridge, do i need any thing on any other chips? I have 2x 256 kingston hyper x, and an awsome 2100 t-bred "b" cant even get 250single? its not many that have achieved that. btw you could try to add heatsinks on the mosfets beacuse they get really hot when overclocking

[Shroomalistic]

that was going to be my next step

[saaya]

finally got my 8rda+
1700+ (relabeled 2600+ cpu) tbred-b
got it too 2.4ghz with my coolermaster super silent air cooler :banana: 1.4ghz@2.4ghz sounds nice doesnt it? :)

can run 205fsb single channel without any mods
(twinmos pc3700)

how much does increasing the fsb from 200 to 240+ increase performence?

i get about 9000 points in 3d2k1 and 1333 in 3d2k3 with my radeon 9100(250/200...yeah thats right 200 and the memory wont oc a single mhz... :/)

to those who already did the vdd mods, what was your 3dmark score before and after the mods and ocing?


__________________________________________________
so far:200fsb single channel= 2843/2605 just bought the
innovatek chipset wb and the trimm resistor :)
__________________________________________________

[cpulloverclock]

2*OCZ El DDR PC3500
7-2-3 cas2.5
10.5*245.8
Windows 98SE
soon a best score in WinXP
http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/3806.png
http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/236.25.png

[cpulloverclock]

It runs with 237 7-2-2 cas2.5 on prime

http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/3811.png

[cpulloverclock]

the last bench

WinXP
http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/wow.jpg

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by Shroomalistic
hey OPP, I've got the nf7-s ver1.2 - I cant cant even get it to 250 single stick let alone two sticks at any multiplier. My board is vmem modded and vdd modded. I've got a watercooled chipset and cpu. My temps dont go above 30c at any voltage. I have a decent heatsink on my southbridge, do i need any thing on any other chips? I have 2x 256 kingston hyper x, and an awsome 2100 t-bred "b"

I have a heatsink on the mosfets, other then that I have a heatsink on the SB and I use a 80W pelt on the NB.

OPP

[cpulloverclock]

250.57 :)

rev 1.2


http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/record.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/250.57.jpg

[saaya]

nice... some more memo tweaking and youll be the first one to get 4gb/s scores with an amd system :)

[cpulloverclock]

third score in the world with an AMD system

[cpulloverclock]

second score ;)

Twinmos PC3700 instead of Ocz PC3500

http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/record1.jpg

[saaya]

cool, i got the same memory... havent done the vdd mod yet, nice to see what the memory can do... what voltage? 2.77 or 2.9?

[cpulloverclock]

Originally posted by saaya
cool, i got the same memory... havent done the vdd mod yet, nice to see what the memory can do... what voltage? 2.77 or 2.9? 2.9 and burn with prime in high priority (10) to test the stability

my system is stable at 238-240 in DUAL

[saaya]

hmmm i cant run it at 205fsb 5-2-2 cl2.... should i try again with more voltage?

[swissocer]

do i miss sumthin or why can everybody set 250mhz fsb on the abit nf7-s? i saw in many reviews only 237mhz fsb

[muzz]

Nice clocking there cpu....:toast:

[cpulloverclock]

thx muzz

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by swissocer
do i miss sumthin or why can everybody set 250mhz fsb on the abit nf7-s? i saw in many reviews only 237mhz fsb

The latest Bios provides up to 250 FSB.

OPP

[cpulloverclock]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
The latest Bios provides up to 250 FSB.

OPP I'd like a new bios to have more than 250
266 for example :slobber: because 250 isn't enough to break 4Gb/s

[swissocer]

oh well gotta get a abit nf7s.. but first comes my lian li pc65 got tired of my old cs 601 :D

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by cpulloverclock
I'd like a new bios to have more than 250
266 for example :slobber: because 250 isn't enough to break 4Gb/s

I hear you my man :D

OPP

[saaya]

afaik the pll is integrated into the southbridge and doesnt support an fsb over 250mhz?

[macci]

Have you guys tried running the unbuffered/unoptimized test?

at 245x10 im gettin 1803/1962 (http://www.solidhardware.com/macci/8rda/mem_245.gif) also ran it at a bit higher cpu speed at 242x11 and got 1830/1978...using 3-2-2-2 timings

buffered at 245x10 was 3778/3552 (http://www.solidhardware.com/macci/8rda/mem_245_buffer.gif)

[Iolao]

Originally posted by macci
Have you guys tried running the unbuffered/unoptimized test?

at 245x10 im gettin 1803/1962 (http://www.solidhardware.com/macci/8rda/mem_245.gif) also ran it at a bit higher cpu speed at 242x11 and got 1830/1978...using 3-2-2-2 timings

buffered at 245x10 was 3778/3552 (http://www.solidhardware.com/macci/8rda/mem_245_buffer.gif)

what memory sticks are you using and at what voltage?

[cpulloverclock]

I have 4 rams stable@238 but with differents timings
vdd 1.93v
vdd 3.20v
vcore 1.3v
nf7-s rev 1.2

http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/238..jpg

[B4E]

Here my scores ... without any mod!!! RAM A-Data pc3200 BH-5 CAS2-5-2-2 .... obviously powered by Abit NF7-S rev2.0 & XP1700+ JIUHB0309UPMW DUT3C aircooled by SLK800&Y.S.Tech 80x80x25 45.2CFM

http://digilander.libero.it/LunaRottaByCinoRicci/FILES/abit_mem_newest.JPG

CYA

[T@nker-xXx]

Originally posted by B4E
Here my scores ... without any mod!!! RAM A-Data pc3200 BH-5 CAS2-5-2-2 .... obviously powered by Abit NF7-S rev2.0 & XP1700+ JIUHB0309UPMW DUT3C aircooled by SLK800&Y.S.Tech 80x80x25 45.2CFM


CYA what's your Oc maxx witch your processor ?

[spaceboy]

Originally posted by macci
Have you guys tried running the unbuffered/unoptimized test?

at 245x10 im gettin 1803/1962 (http://www.solidhardware.com/macci/8rda/mem_245.gif) also ran it at a bit higher cpu speed at 242x11 and got 1830/1978...using 3-2-2-2 timings

buffered at 245x10 was 3778/3552 (http://www.solidhardware.com/macci/8rda/mem_245_buffer.gif)


good score there!
what NB have you got?

[B4E]

Originally posted by T@nker-xXx
what's your Oc maxx witch your processor ?

Aircooled @2V by SLK800 & Y.S.Tech 45.2CFM 3000rpm 34dB

http://digilander.libero.it/LunaRottaByCinoRicci/FILES/Abit_SuperPI_new.JPG

CYA

[cpulloverclock]

39s@2525 and 2499MHz

http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/39.JPG
http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/2499.JPG

[cpulloverclock]

vdd 2v
twinmos PC3700 + OCZ PC3500
DUAL DDR

http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/240.54.jpg

[JCviggen]

Vdd 2.16 , Vddr 3.32

this board doesnt like anything over 222 MHz cas2 though :(

NF7 1.2

http://users.pandora.be/JCviggen/fsb11.JPG

http://users.pandora.be/JCviggen/maxMEM.JPG

[OPPAINTER]

Nice job JC:)

How high was v-core when you did that?
And where the hells my EPOS:D

OPP

[causticVapor]

EP-8RDA+ v.1.1
A3 stepping northbridge

The northbridge has the ability to go all the way to 216FSB @ 1.85vdd. This is with a GF2 HS and 50MM fan; without the fan all that was attainable was 205 FSB.

Single channel, only one stick now, of corsair XMS3200. It'll go all the way up to 210ish or so @ CL2, 3-2-2 but is not stable. To run at DDR433 (216) I have to up Vdimm to 2.9v and relax the timings to CL2.5, 7-3-3.

Another thing to note is that my system is not stable at 216FSB with "Aggressive" (northbridge?) timings. "Optimal" is required. At aggressive the GUI turns bluish and other interesting visual anomalies pop up. :p

[causticVapor]

Here's a dramatic visualization of what happens when I try to run 216FSB at aggressive with 1.85vdd: :eek:

:p

[Learn]

finally i hit 250.57 :D


vdd 2.16v vddr 3.24 v-core 1.87/1.90

http://membres.lycos.fr/ftpad/images/ABIT-NF7-S/record/memfsb250.57T.png

superpi 1mo
http://membres.lycos.fr/ftpad/images/ABIT-NF7-S/record/pi1mofsb250.57T.png

[bias_hjorth]

awesome benches...

I am only able to hit 218FSB with my pc2700
http://www.oc-central.dk/tests/pc2700/bench3.JPG

sorry for the bad image quality:rolleyes:

[Morkai]

AthlonXP 1700+
Asus A7N8X Rev 1.04
2x256MB Kingston HyperX PC3000 5-2-2-2

Sandra 2003 Unbuffered 1816/1986 (http://www.skenegroup.net/Kellottelut/250_sa.PNG) 250,57MHz
Sandra 2003 Buffered 3852/3612 (http://www.skenegroup.net/Kellottelut/250_sm.PNG) 250,57MHz

SuperPi 1MB 38s (http://www.skenegroup.net/Kellottelut/superpi_1mb.jpg) 10,5x250,57MHz
SuperPi 8MB 7min 2sec (http://www.skenegroup.net/Kellottelut/superpi_8_2.jpg) 10,5x246MHz
Pifast 3.3 4194304 23,36sec (http://www.skenegroup.net/Kellottelut/pifast_7.jpg) 10,5x250,57MHz

[Learn]

update :D it's with a new windows 2kpro installation

only 39sec for my pi 1mo :/

http://membres.lycos.fr/ftpad/images/ABIT-NF7-S/record/memfsb250.57R.png

http://membres.lycos.fr/ftpad/images/ABIT-NF7-S/record/pi1mofsb250.57R.png

[gecko991]

I can only do 216 with no Vmods at 1.85.

[SAE]

My older nf7-s 1.1 @ ~2,1Vdd
236MHz,
2,0-3-2-2,
Vcc 3,1 (sometimes dropping to 2,96)
Kingston hyperX dual

[Ewok]

yes thats all very nice, but how many people here are running that kinda vdd for normal use? and how many people here are actually stable at any of these speeds?

what i wanna know is whats the highest vdd and highest STABLE mem clocks that people are getting in normal 24/7 use.

im at 1.91vdd and 2.9mem (shows as 3.0 though in bios), managed 225fsb at 7/2/2/2 on my NF7-S 2.0 with 2x256mb xms3500. system temp according to bios never goes above 31c under load which i think is fine using stock cooling.

[SAE]

This vdd I am using all the time. My max stable fsb was 230MHz dual channel before taking this 1.1 out of my sys to put in my new 2.0 :mad:

After that I could not even boot at 220MHz fsb with my kingstons. So back to my good old 1.1 but my proc was changed though.
But now though pelting my nb as before I could not run fsbs like before :(

So I gotta test out the max of my 1700+ (near 2450 b/c of fluctuation of voltages) @1,78-1,82. Think I am gonna put some hs on all the mosfets to stabilize it more effectively.

Think today I am able to use 11*221MHz @2,0-3-2-2 24/7 and 4eva ;)

Hoping on a fix for rev2.0...

[sysfailur]

I'm not sure if my mobo finally bit the dust, but if it did I'll be RMAing for a a7n8x 2.0. I was told that putting a 100mhz fsb processor in my board might fix it, so I'm going to give that a shot and hope for the best. Just thought I'd update people who were wondering why I haven't been benching anything in a while :P

Just to show I'm still @ it though, here's a Soltek 75FRN-RL maxed in the bios @ 211mhz with ease. I may be getting a 75FRN2, which allows for up to 250mhz. :cool:

http://www.maximumoc.com/img/hardware/soltek_nf2/211mhz_sisoft.jpg

[maphisto]

abit nf7 rev 2 UN moded
XMS 3000C2 (on 100% )
3 3 6 2.5
vdd 1.7
vcore 2.1
vdim 2.7
vagp 1.6
1700+ 0302

http://forums.ort.org.il/files/30/1748798/9262235.JPG

[B4E]

Abit NF7-S rev 2.0 (NO mod) with a-data BH-5 single side(2*256MB) dual channel CAS2-5-2-2!

Xp1700+ @FSB 166MHz def (L12 modded) air cooled by SLK800 & Y.S.Tech 80x80x25


http://digilander.libero.it/LunaRottaByCinoRicci/FILES/abit_memory_TOP.JPG

CYA

[ztop]

:slobber: :D ;)

[Liquid3D]

Hello B4E, when did you buy the A-Data, and where if you don't mind sharing? Little higher and you'll have the highest bandwidth on th planet! Woow. Forgot who it was here who said the highest was 4K?

[B4E]

Originally posted by Liquid3D
Hello B4E, when did you buy the A-Data, and where if you don't mind sharing? Little higher and you'll have the highest bandwidth on th planet! Woow. Forgot who it was here who said the highest was 4K?

I bought A-Data a few weeks ago in Italy as well.
What do you mean when you say: "Forgot who it was here who said the highest was 4K?"?

CYA

[Liquid3D]

Meaning your at 3700MB/s bandwidth, and 4000 = 4K, so if you were to breach 4000MB/s you would effectively have attained the highest memory bandwidth on a AMD system on Earth. If I read that prior statement correctly. It's here in this thread somewhere.

[B4E]

Originally posted by Liquid3D
Meaning your at 3700MB/s bandwidth, and 4000 = 4K, so if you were to breach 4000MB/s you would effectively have attained the highest memory bandwidth on a AMD system on Earth. If I read that prior statement correctly. It's here in this thread somewhere.

Yeah, I know it, but you must consider that my abit isn't modded and I only use standard air cooling system, so IMHO this is a very good result.

CYA

[shidokanjohn]

first posting here so i would like to say a big hello to all:toast:
this is mine bandwith with 2*256 kingston(winbond chips) running 223fsb 2.9vdimm for every day use

[Liquid3D]

Welcome, nice overclock there. Especially for DDR333. Is there anyway it'll run at lower VDIMM?

[shidokanjohn]

Thanks Liquid3D
At 2.8 vdimm can run 2.2.2.6 at 210 fsb
At 2.9 (3.06 with abits overvoltage) i have 223 at 2.3.2.6..
I think i can go 4-5 mhz more but 1.7 vdd holding me back
I have seen running winbond chips even 3.3vdimm for a long time working just fine

[shidokanjohn]

and a screenshot:)

[B4E]

By Twinmos pc3200 Mtec 256MB

http://digilander.libero.it/LunaRottaByCinoRicci/FILES/recordsingle_fsb.JPG

CYA

[Liquid3D]

B4E your the man!!! Nice, really nice. Your going to have to find a Beta BIOS which allows for 275MHz FSB!

Hey shidokanjohn I just ordered the Soltek SL-75FRN2-L which allows VDD adjustment to 1.8V. It wasn't too warmly embraced initially because the board's 1st BIOS was only 200MHz FSB. It was then increased to 211MHz FSB, however; recent BIOS versions offer 250MHz FSB. And supposedly each board has the C1 stepping nForce2 NB. Speaking of NB's, I took the NB heatsink off my 8RDA yesterday, and the stepping was A3 so I was happy. I put an old Thermaltake CPU HSF on there, but haven't fired it up yet, because I had problems with my Prometeia's microfreezer contact. I think CPU temps were as high as 50C, but with the inaccuracy of PCHealth (thermistor is under CPU which is affected by Prometeia's low temps) I'm afraid I damaged my 2400+.as actual temps may have been over 60C. I had experienced all sorts of visual anomalies in the BIOS. Anyway, I'm going to give it a go tomorrow morning when I'm not so tired.

Really nice overclock guy's. Your inspiriation it can be done! But where the heck to you go after 250FSB? Wow.

[ztop]

nf7\s 2.0 full air,no mod....DC

http://space.virgilio.it/elio.munari@tin.it/8-2-2-2-dc-242.JPG

[shidokanjohn]

Liquid3D
Thanks man:toast:
I wish you good luck with your cpu
I will do vdd mod this week so i'm hoping too catch 230-235fsb:D

btw ztop very nice overclocking
:thumbsup:

[B4E]

http://digilander.libero.it/LunaRottaByCinoRicci/FILES/Opt_sandra.JPG

CYA

[theonetheycall]

I am stuck with this crappy efficiency :( 92% or so.. ingle channel though, also only 1.592v VDD and 2.8v Vdimm

[Liquid3D]

Originally posted by theonetheycall
I am stuck with this crappy efficiency :( 92% or so.. ingle channel though, also only 1.592v VDD and 2.8v Vdimm Beleive me that bandwidth is nothing to feel too bad about, that's excellent. Man you guys are rocking! I have 2GB's of OCZ EL-PC3700 between my two rigs, but; I'm having trouble with my Prometeia, or I might be posting myself. In the interim, I can only watch you guy's have all the fun (little Cindy Boo-Hoo).

[Spec3]

vdd was 2.1V and vdimm was 3.15V

This was done single channel but I am now working on dual

Steve

[rms]

Originally posted by B4E

Xp1700+ @FSB 166MHz def (L12 modded)


Can someone point me to instructions for this L12 mod? What benefits does it offer for my 1700+ ? thx very much!

rms
rsquires@flash.net

[B4E]

Look at the picture!

CYA

EDIT: This is a L12 mod for increase FSB default from 133MHz to 166MHz.

[sysfailur]

B4E.. what should we be looking at? What does that do?

EDIT: Nevermind.... *Smacks himself in the head*

[B4E]

Originally posted by sysfailur
B4E.. what should we be looking at? What does that do?

EDIT: Nevermind.... *Smacks himself in the head*

This mod permit to go more high with FSB with thoro B 133MHz FSB Def.

Before this mod my max FSB was 230MHz ... after 250MHz!

CYA

[rms]

Ok, I reconnected the L12 bridge as per the picture on my 1700+ JUIHB, and the cpu was indeed recognized as a 2600+ at 166fsb. But it made the overclockability worse, not better. It would not run above 222fsb stably regardless of the memory settings. This mod sounds bogus to me. This is on a Abit NF7-S v2.0 with the 1.1 bios. Disconnecting the mod let me run at 230fsb once again. Disconnecting the L12 bridge on a 2600+ should give you the same advantage, but reconnecting it on a 1700+ is a mistake.

rms
rsquires@flash.net

[B4E]

Originally posted by rms
Ok, I reconnected the L12 bridge as per the picture on my 1700+ JUIHB, and the cpu was indeed recognized as a 2600+ at 166fsb. But it made the overclockability worse, not better. It would not run above 222fsb stably regardless of the memory settings. This mod sounds bogus to me. This is on a Abit NF7-S v2.0 with the 1.1 bios. Disconnecting the mod let me run at 230fsb once again. Disconnecting the L12 bridge on a 2600+ should give you the same advantage, but reconnecting it on a 1700+ is a mistake.

rms
rsquires@flash.net

Have you tried to use older version of bios? IMHO 1.0 is better than 1.1.

CYA

EDIT: you can see discussions about L12 mod here

http://www.amdforums.com/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=901049&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

[rms]

No I didn't try it with 1.0 bios. There was another very odd thing about the reconnected L12 mod behavior: my cpu temp skyrocketed to 65C idle (watercooled) from 33C with the L12 bridge disconnected. This was not an artifact or a bad job mounting the cpu, as the water radiator was also quite warm. After disconnecting the bridge and reinstalling the temp went right back to 33C. So there's something strange going on, possibly bios-related.

But there needs to be more than just the one "reconnected 1700+ L12" positive result before I'd recommend people do this assuming it will work.

rms

[Liquid3D]

Originally posted by rms
Ok, I reconnected the L12 bridge as per the picture on my 1700+ JUIHB, and the cpu was indeed recognized as a 2600+ at 166fsb. But it made the overclockability worse, not better. It would not run above 222fsb stably regardless of the memory settings... Remember this; http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=307

[bias_hjorth]

I just tried another time
Still using pc2700 ram! rated 7.5ns
..:

http://www.oc-central.dk/pics/1.jpg


and

http://www.oc-central.dk/pics/2.jpg

Timings: 7-3-3-2.5

timings is a little on the slow side but hey its fair enough..

[cpulloverclock]

new bios for The a7n8x

a screen
It's not me but kazama (creator of setfsb)

http://www.page.sannet.ne.jp/k-hazama/result/wcpuid/277-a7n8x.gif

[bias_hjorth]

Originally posted by cpulloverclock
new bios for The a7n8x

a screen
It's not me but kazama (creator of setfsb)

http://www.page.sannet.ne.jp/k-hazama/result/wcpuid/277-a7n8x.gif

simply crasy!! wow...

btw. I hope they would make a bios like that for the rda+´s

[ztop]

Originally posted by cpulloverclock
new bios for The a7n8x

a screen
It's not me but kazama (creator of setfsb)

http://www.page.sannet.ne.jp/k-hazama/result/wcpuid/277-a7n8x.gif

can you give me a link??

[caspergt]

Originally posted by bias_hjorth
I just tried another time
Still using pc2700 ram! rated 7.5ns
..:

http://www.oc-central.dk/pics/1.jpg


and

http://www.oc-central.dk/pics/2.jpg

Timings: 7-3-3-2.5

timings is a little on the slow side but hey its fair enough..

That`s some crazy bandwith with your pc2700 :slobber:
I almost beat you on 228 FSB man i gotta get higher
http://www.mounewetter.nl/memory3.JPG

On 228 FSB with Twinmos pc 2700 no winbond chips 2.9 volt, overvolt on NF7-S to 3.04 volt.
I think the chipset is limiting me i cant go higher with loose timings or not but i`m trying, this is a single stick of 512 mb:D

[cpulloverclock]

Originally posted by ztop
can you give me a link?? no problem
http://www.page.sannet.ne.jp/k-hazama/ ---> BENCH RESULT

http://www.page.sannet.ne.jp/k-hazama/result/maxgogo/max55.htm
http://www.page.sannet.ne.jp/k-hazama/result/wcpuid/amd-wcpuid.htm

[ztop]

thanks:p

[saaya]

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[Tekime]

Hehe... okay this score is shamed by you psychotic Prometia owners, but I finally got my 10,10.5 multis working so I'll post my work (in progress) :)

This is all on air. I'm hoping I can get FSB up a little higher... right now just ensuring stability at this level. Ran Prime95 all night with no errors, so I think it's doing fine so far.

EPoX 8rda+ A1
HyperX PC3500

http://www.fury-tech.com/images/user/Tekime/sandra_10.5x220.gif

http://www.fury-tech.com/images/user/Tekime/wcpuid_10.5x220.gif

[Ocbench]

caspergt:

thx man! btw mine is also a single stick

[Liquid3D]

Here's my pathetic OCZ EL-PC3700 (10x221FSB), 2-3-3-6 and 2.6VDIMM. I'm having problemo's getting above 221FSB. I can acheive it, but I have to lower the mutli, to the point where it defeats the bandwidth. Foolish me, for some reason I thought the bandwidth would be an independent measurement from internal clock speed. Apparantly the overall speed up's the bandwidth as much as the FSB, and Latency?

[Spec3]

Originally posted by Liquid3D
Here's my pathetic OCZ EL-PC3700 (10x221FSB), 2-3-3-6 and 2.6VDIMM. I'm having problemo's getting above 221FSB. I can acheive it, but I have to lower the mutli, to the point where it defeats the bandwidth. Foolish me, for some reason I thought the bandwidth would be an independent measurement from internal clock speed. Apparantly the overall speed up's the bandwidth as much as the FSB, and Latency?

If you run the test unbuffered the cpu speed has nothing to do with the benchmark of the ram.

Steve

[Tekime]

Originally posted by Liquid3D
Here's my pathetic OCZ EL-PC3700 (10x221FSB), 2-3-3-6 and 2.6VDIMM. I'm having problemo's getting above 221FSB. I can acheive it, but I have to lower the mutli, to the point where it defeats the bandwidth. Foolish me, for some reason I thought the bandwidth would be an independent measurement from internal clock speed. Apparantly the overall speed up's the bandwidth as much as the FSB, and Latency?


yeah I can hit 228FSB with an 8x multi, but I'm not running at 1.8GHz just for the added FSB!

I think part of it can be attributed to the stress factor. As you increase the clock speed of your CPU, it actually takes full advantage of the FSB and puts a higher strain on it. Could be wrong though, this is entirely speculation. I'm sure there are a number of factors, latency being one of them as well.

[saaya]

those 6gb/s scores of the 300fsb P4 rigs seem so much faster, but i just remembered that its pure bandwidth. they are not really much faster in gaming then an xp or barton with 250fsb.

with all this quadpumped fsb stories i just see the history repeating itself, intel is now taking the mghz legend to the fsb... and many people are falling for the 1.2ghz fsb. but paired with the low latency i must admit that its a different story then P4s mhz thing.

[Liquid3D]

Originally posted by Spec3
If you run the test unbuffered the cpu speed has nothing to do with the benchmark of the ram. Steve in Sandra I can disable "Buffering/Block-Prefetch Benchmarks" is this what your referring to? And if I did, then wouldn't my test be different from everyone elses?

Also is prudent to disable, "Use 50% Memory Only for Test"? Could this adversly affect the purpose of the twinbank memory architecture?

BTW Tekime I think your onto something there, or it may be as simple as the vcore needs to raised to compensate for the higher clock-speed. I think your correct as far as latency is concerned at higher clock-speeds, however; raising the latency would again defeat the benchmark.

[spaceboy]

http://www.ocenthusiast.it/forum/files/250x10b.jpg

:banana:

[emp]

My score seems pretty low, running 230MHz 4-2-2-2 @ NF7-S rev2
Dual Channel :confused:

http://www.biologigrand.ac/lgh11/temp/san-230-4222.jpg

Have I missed a setting in bios?

BTW, Hi everyone (first post).

[Liquid3D]

Most recently (what's holding me back from 2.5, 2.6GHz is the dam Vcore 1.85V max)

[Liquid3D]

Doh! Forgot the bandwidth.

[bias_hjorth]

Originally posted by emp
My score seems pretty low, running 230MHz 4-2-2-2 @ NF7-S rev2
Dual Channel :confused:

http://www.biologigrand.ac/lgh11/temp/san-230-4222.jpg

Have I missed a setting in bios?

BTW, Hi everyone (first post).


to low multip?

[spaceboy]

cpu interface -->enable

[Zeus]

Closing every prog that's running also improves bandwidthtest a little.
Erm...don't close windows though!

[solvet]

my score....:toast:
I'm excited...my first post!::)
2X256 A.Data BH5 on 8RDA+ (OVP,Vdd,Vdimm) @7/2/2/2 dual
Tec on Cpu and NB (226+156)+ the "Ice cream boy":D
http://gabbersak.supereva.it/247x12.gif

[caspergt]

Damn dude that`s friggin great :P
Just a little bit more mhz on the FSB and you have the highest bandwith wit an AMD system (i think)
4 GB can be done :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:

[Liquid3D]

Originally posted by caspergt
Damn dude that`s friggin great :P
Just a little bit more mhz on the FSB and you have the highest bandwith wit an AMD system (i think)... A few people here have already reached 250FSB, and I belive someone reached 267FSB with a Beta BIOS? Although I'm not sure about 4GB/s bandwidth, but it's either just been done, or very close.

BTW emp I found clock speed is just as important as FSB, so as bias_hjorth mentioned, you may have to raise that mutli. And disabling thermal throttling is very important. Although itn depends on your motherboard, and CPU. I understand the Barton, has internal thermal throttling, so unless the motherboard has the option to disable it, that could be a problem.

[spaceboy]

yes sandra buffered it's cpu dependent ,that'why some score are higher even at lower fsb

Unbuffered bench are more "real"

[solvet]

Right Space, right.
Next time I'll try an unbuffered bench with Sandra.... ;)

[Major]

solvet welcome to the xtreme forums, glad to see you here.

Thats some great bandwidth ! ;)

[solvet]

Thanks Major:)

[bias_hjorth]

whicked fsb!

[Liquid3D]

I know this is going to sound like a silly question, but how do you find a BIOS which allows above 250MHzFSB? Is this a beta release, or are there many BIOS versions above 250 now, and if so, what are their limit's? 275FSB? 300FSB?

PS: can you tell me where you got that AIUHB2100?

[cpulloverclock]

Originally posted by Liquid3D
I know this is going to sound like a silly question, but how do you find a BIOS which allows above 250MHzFSB? Is this a beta release, or are there many BIOS versions above 250 now, and if so, what are their limit's? 275FSB? 300FSB?

PS: can you tell me where you got that AIUHB2100?
The last bios of all NF7 rev 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 and 2.0 allows above 250MHz
not tested yet

on fae.abit.com.tw/eng of course or abit-usa.com

[SektorX]

the latest bios for v1.1 doesn't allow over 250 here. just FYI

[bias_hjorth]

the latest bios for the 2.0 allows 300fsb!..
well Opp. and all you other crasy people.. What are you waiting for?:D :toast:

[MCWB]

Ooh I just discovered this thread! :) Some damn nice numbers there, nothing I can compete with, but here's a little 8RGA+ action, no mods whatsoever. :) Vdimm of 2.9 V sux though! :D

http://members.optushome.com.au/mcwb/8RGA+228DC.gif

[MCWB]

I like your style! ;) I know this is a chipset limit though, not the RAM (does 245 in my Intel rig), so I shall have to work on that first. :)

[Liquid3D]

I forgot to take bandwidth shots on this OC, but just wanted share my latest. It seems keeping the board at the higher FSB in this case 200FSB, break's in not only the chipset, but the memory. I wasn't able to reach 228 unless my memory was 2-4-4-7, now it's 1=230FSB @ 2-3-3-6! This at 1.8VDD, 2.7VIDIMM. Can't Wait to try OCZ Gold!

Edit: Now i remeber, the Multi was so low I didn't bother running Sandra.

[cowpuppy]

I just wanted to let every one know some of the bus speeds I hit yesterday with the recent purchase of some Hyper x 3500, a NF7-S v/2.0 and a Barton 2500............I hit 246x10.5 and was able enuf to run 3dmark01 this is after only a North bridge mod running 2.1v........the recent move to a chiller that I purchased on ebay for a $100.00 has also dramaticly helped out, temps were 15C in winbond............I have a Swiftek mc50w coming and next weekend I'm moving up to a 9800 that MrZee wil help me do the v/mods too and we are planing on doing the memory mod to the board also...... currantly have a v/moded 9700 thats pushing 20064 in 01 (posted) I couldn't have done this without the help of our team mebers and Mrzee Thanx

If someone can help me about posting screenies :-) Where? URL

I'm now coming to run with the big Dogs. Ruff ........cowpuppy.

[cowpuppy]

That was in DC also :-)

[cowpuppy]

hit 250x10 yesterday. I have screen shots I just cant post them (option is not availible if someone could explain why?) this is in DC still. tried 255 but I think I'll have to do the mem mod to get any higher............I was able to run 03 @246x10.5 w/a mild overclock on the vid card temps were 9C



runnin with the big dogs. Woof

[cowpuppy]

trying to atach a image



[img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/224619/250-2.jpg
[img]

[saaya]

has anybody reached 4gb yet?

[Estide]

4Gb?!? I think that it is impossible with an AMD sys @the moment or?!?

[bias_hjorth]

or is it.. the latest abit bios allows 300fsb... should be enough for 4gb/s

[cowpuppy]

not sure what happened to the other pic

[saaya]

4Gb?!? I think that it is impossible with an AMD sys @the moment or?!?

or is it possible? :D

http://gabbersak.supereva.it/247x12.gif

[Estide]

Originally posted by bias_hjorth
or is it.. the latest abit bios allows 300fsb... should be enough for 4gb/s allow and reach is not the same... :)
@saaya this bandwith is'nt for a longer peroid of time i think...:D but who has done this?! You?

greets Estide

[bias_hjorth]

well opp. or some other xtreme oc´er ought to do it... mine pc2700 only goes around 234fsb at 2.9V so.. and havent tried with these pc3500 hyperX since I´v got this abit..

[shidokanjohn]

a small update
229*11 sync new ram kingston winbond chips bh-5ns ddr 400

[saaya]

@saaya this bandwith is'nt for a longer peroid of time i think... but who has done this?! You?

no its says on the pic. solvet posted it in this very thread some pages back. he scored so high because of the 3ghz cpu power +250fsb . i actually think that 4gb can be achieved 100% stable. maybe we need another nf2 revision or a new amd stepping (cpu power is very important for high bandwidth scores)

i only reach 2.3ghz (11.5x200) without any mods so far. watercooling for cpu and chipset on the way, got the vr for the vdd mod and everything, but at the moment i dont even have any money for the hoses i still need to buy :( and i always tell myself that i dont have any time to do it, but i end up hanging around in this forum for about 1 hour a day... i should spend that time to finally get watercooled.

i outperform the 3000+ and 3.06 P4 in both of sandras cpu benches but barely reach 3gb/s memory bandwidth :(

[Estide]

Sandra 2003 "needs" more Cpu power to reach high bandwith but i heard that the Cpu power Sandra 2000 is equal :) test it :D

I know your Porblems because thats the same that I have :D

My Cpu is already Watercooled, thank good but there are so many other things i should do (e.g.to leanr for the English class Test tomorrow) but what i do is playing chess with a good friend 4hours a day 7days per week :D But don't talk to much lets Oc´:)

Greetz Estide

P.S.: Sayaa are you a German freak?!?

[saaya]

aber sicher Fr€4K`N PROUD! :D

komm komm aus hh
wakü scheint bei deinem xp nix zu bringen , is noch n pali oder?

[Estide]

doch ist ein T-bred A- aber er ist ja passiv gekühlt, das schafft man mit Luft net ;) Der DLT ist unterwegs (mit ner Ti4200 hab ich getauscht gegen meine 9500NP), sollte schon samstag da sein...wenn der Typ mich verar****hat dann gibt es Tote :D
Die Kingston sollen auch nächste Woche eintrudeln, Graka und NB kühler kommen in vier wochen bis dahin muss das Case fertig sein, ich meinen AB zusammengepappt haben, VDD,VBR+VDimm Mod muss gemacht werden usw... schaff ich bestimmt net :( *g*
Aber lass jetz mal wieder English labern oder emailen (estide@web.de)sonst werden wir noch rausgeschmissen :D

Estide

[saaya]

actually i think i can run my 1700+ passive. it runs stable with 1.4v up to 1.5ghz i think! temps are so extremely low that im sure i can unplug the cpu fan (i have a huge heatsink -> coolermaster) and itll run ok. so your getting a 4200 or your getting a 9500np?

vdd mod is pretty easy. (50m von hier wohnt son elektro türke zu dem alle hingehn wenn sie probleme mitm fernseher, videorecorder etc haben. der typ hat meinen fernseher für nur 15€ wieder zum laufen gebracht! der zeilensetzer war im arsch... bei nem anderen technik laden meinten die den fernseher kann man knicken! ich kenn den jetzt schon ganz gut und werd ihn fragen ob er mir eben 2 kabel an die stellen löten kann. macht er bestimt umsonst :D

if there is a shop like that close to you go there and ask them! (but watch them carefully, if they dont look very skilled or motivated better do it yourself)

another way if you dont feel confident enough is go to conrad if theres a shop close to you. they have very skilled soldering people and im sure theyll do the job for 5€.

where did you order the kingston ram and for how much? hyper x 3500 right?

[Diablo II]

Originally posted by saaya
actually i think i can run my 1700+ passive. it runs stable with 1.4v up to 1.5ghz i think! temps are so extremely low that im sure i can unplug the cpu fan (i have a huge heatsink -> coolermaster) and itll run ok.

lol, mine at 1.52V and 30C h20 ;)

http://digilander.libero.it/DiabloIIx/2700+@1.52V.JPG

I can do default freq. (1733) with 1,25V :D

[saaya]

NIIIIcceeeee :toast: i need 1.75-1.8v to be stable @ 2.1ghz

whats your max oc?

[Diablo II]

Here it is... Plain 20°C H20... Vcore 2.03V on epox 8rda vdd modded

http://digilander.libero.it/DiabloIIx/All%20@%20220.96x12=2651.46.JPG

[KennethChong]

wow, impressive.

[Estide]

@saaya I have sold my 9500, now I have an Ti 4200 but this card don't want to go higher then 300/600.. The DLT 1800 I have, seems to be bad too....
I want to do The Mods myself... :)
I bought the Kingston memory from a Forum member of Hluxx(celemine1Gig), and he bought them on Ebay (it's a longer story)
It is 2700 kingston Value Ram with Bh6 Chips
The Forum Meber bought the 2700 Vdata too, so we (He the Vdata and I will test the Kingston)can test the Chips :D

But now back to topic
With an 1700+@1700mhz and an FSB@208 I have an bandwith from 30XX

Have a good day

[sysfailur]

Originally posted by saaya
or is it possible? :D

[IMG]http://gabbersak.supereva.it/247x12.gif[/]

SMOKIN! :)

4g is deffinitely possible. When my 8rda3+ arrives, and I get some LN2, I'm going to shoot for it :)

[saaya]

i think none of the peops here has done the vbt mod right? that should boost max fsb by another 5-10mhz :)

[Estide]

The VBT is for the Vdimm(VBT should be the half of Vdimm) or?!?

[DKOr]

sweet

[saaya]

The VBT is for the Vdimm(VBT should be the half of Vdimm) or?!?

yeah its yet another memory voltage, but since the memory is keeping people from gettng 4gb/s and not the chipset this will really help i think.

[SAE]

Originally posted by saaya
yeah its yet another memory voltage, but since the memory is keeping people from gettng 4gb/s and not the chipset this will really help i think.


How does this one work? What do I have to do???

Any pics? Clearance would be appreciated... :D

[Estide]

www.8rdafaq.com

[Iolao]

you will need 3ghz cpu and 250 with tight timings to break 4gb/s wall in sandra buffered.

[saaya]

255, theres a screenshot of solvet who has 3ghz+ 250 and only got 3990. well that was with cl 2.5 though i think.

[SAE]

Originally posted by Estide
www.8rdafaq.com


Haha :D :rolleyes:

I feel VBT mod is only for 8rda's...

Got a (two) nf7-s!!! :cool:

[Estide]

Yes only for 8rda and only if you do the Vdimm Mod