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amd2400user
02-14-2003, 10:29 PM
ok i wanna get a new power supply because i have a 300W from seventeam and i think my PSU is holding my overclock back. So which brand should i get? i dont want those huge 500+W Psu's i think 400-475 is the best.
which brand should i buy it from? and where (include the link plz!)? wat model?

WxChaser
02-14-2003, 10:38 PM
The best built PSU in my opinion is the PC Power & Cooling models...overbuilt, reliable, steady as a rock. I just ordered a new 510w Turbo Cool model from them (shipped out today) that has 3 adjustable pots for the +3.3, +5 and +12V rails.

I've been using an Antec P412X 400W PSU that is sufficient for my needs, but wanted rock stable rails and reliability this time around.

You'll find a lot of guys in here using the PC Power & Cooling PSU's, including Mr. Icee and RoydRage among others.

Major
02-14-2003, 10:38 PM
PC Power and Cooling make the best PSU's around.

http://www.pcpowerandcooling.com/products/power_supplies/index.htm

If you want an extensive list of PSU manufatures:

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348^4376,00.html

I've tried em all and have decided that the PSU is as important as anything else you put into your system. My advice is to get a the best you can afford. If your on a budget, I would recondmend the Antec Truepower line, want the best ? give PC Power and Cooling a call !

felix88
02-14-2003, 10:45 PM
quite a few folks on here like the TTGI units directron sells.

as already mentioned, the best of the best PSUs are made by PC Power and Cooling.

pelikan
02-15-2003, 12:10 PM
I think the Fortron FSP's from Directron.com are very good.

isp
02-15-2003, 12:16 PM
IMO, if you PC power and cooling is out of your budget, go with TTGI or antec true power.

spaceman
02-15-2003, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by pelikan
I think the Fortron FSP's from Directron.com are very good. Yeah, I was just lookin' at their 550 watt this morning. Or it mighta been a 520 watt. Tom's Hardware's PSU comparison rated Fortron really good. :) Only $20 more for the Antec True550, at Directron, so it's a tough choice. :confused:

youthemandan
02-15-2003, 12:52 PM
TTGI 520 WATT PSU FROM DIRECTRON. Took me all the way to 3173 at 2.2 vcore. U will never need more power than what that puppy was using.

Susquehannock
05-08-2003, 11:13 AM
My vote goes for the Fortron units.
They have to be the best deal going.
Look at my sig ... this 300w unit has been quite a surprise. :)
Clearly it is able to handle more than it's max rating.
Just for kicks, I did a test and hooked up everything I could
find to one of the 12v MOLEX connectors to see what it would take to
trip the overload.

Short story: ...
This thing could power everything I had and still ask for more.:rocker:


Generally, the Fortron haven't been all that popular.
However, they are rapidly gaining the attention they deserve.

AOpen, Verax, Sparkle, Fortron ... they're all made by FSP Group.
In fact, many of those brands share the same part numbers.

Every reviewer has been pleasantly surprised by the Fortron's
quiet operation, and more importantly, their ability to sustain
much more than their rated maximum.


Here are a couple of reviews if you are interested ...

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*^* Fortron/Source SFP400-60PFN Power Supply (http://r.searchhippo.com/r3.php?i=3&q=fortron+-+p300xfpn&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcextreme.net%2F) *^*

quote:
" I have to say, I am totally impressed, as this PSU took everything I could throw at it, and kept asking for more!"

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IMhO, ... This next one is an absolute must for any PSU shopper:

*^* Inadequate and Deceptive Product Labeling: (http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20021021/index.html) *^*

quote:
"With its generous maximum output of 390 watts (at which point it powers down in an orderly fashion), the Verax FSP300-60ATV is an impressive performer. Thanks to its quiet fan, the Verax is practically inaudible in use. Also recommended is the Fortron FSP. This model achieved a maximum output of 450 watts - and it was quiet."

Again, ... we see that the Verax and Fortron
share the same part numbers.
That is 90w & 100w sustained over their advertised maximum. ... nice!
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Hope this helps ... good luck:D

gobbo
05-08-2003, 11:19 AM
Hiper/TTGI are some of the best i've got my hands on in the UK.
Think they are avaialbe in USA too?

Andrew LB
05-08-2003, 01:14 PM
PC Power & Cooling gets my vote. Ive owned Enermax, Antec, and Sparkle... and none of them ran as smoothly and without as fluctuation as my PP&C PSU does.

Stang_Man
05-08-2003, 01:22 PM
I've had good luck with the TTGI models.. The PC Power & Cooling is a great psu, but can be expensive for some, but I guess you get what you pay for..:)

SupaMan
05-08-2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by gobbo
Hiper/TTGI are some of the best i've got my hands on in the UK.
Think they are avaialbe in USA too?

yeah, direcrtron sells them

Susquehannock
05-08-2003, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by spaceman
Yeah, I was just lookin' at their 550 watt this morning. Or it mighta been a 520 watt. >>>>>. :confused:


FYI ......

Please be aware that the 550w & above Fortron units are for servers and
have the 24pin ATX connector. If you want to use one of those
with a non-server board, a $15 ATX adapter is required.

However, the 530 watt and below model Fortron units have
the 20pin ATX connector.:)
Both Directron and NewEgg carry them I believe.

felix88
05-08-2003, 02:46 PM
i've also had very good luck with Sparkle/Fortron. i've never used anything higher than a 350w model, but it's nice to see they are doing well.

Susquehannock
05-09-2003, 06:09 AM
Just found an interesting 500w PSU for $79.
From the specs it appears to be a heavy duty server PSU
with 24-20pin adapter included.:)

P4ATX-500W Dual Fan, Switching Power Supply (http://www.myaopen.com/ag50brdualfa.html)


Complete overload and overvoltage protection, fan speed control,
and monitor output .... nice features.:)

It's made by AGPB Enterprises (http://www.gpb-jge.com/file/ps.html). Never heard of that
manufacturer. Anyone here know of them?


here are the features from the $79 webpage ...
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quote:

"Features

Support Intel & AMD Dual CPU Server M/B
(24pin connector for Intel Server M/B and additional adapter cable for AMD
Server M/B

One 24pin - 20pin adapter cable for regular ATX M/B

Fan Control Switch - for fan speed adjustment

One more power outlet for Monitor

Two 12 VDE ball-bearing fan

Output over voltage protection

Short circuit protection on all outputs

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here is the manufacturer specifications webpage. HERE (http://www.gpb-jge.com/file/ap55f.html)

+12v = 28a
+5v = 52/66a
+3.3v = 26/35a

+3.3V and +5V max Output 260W,
Peak Surge Max Output 620W
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These look like sturdy PSU. Unfortunately, there don't seem
to be any reviews of them though. And very few vendors sell them.
Most of the ones who do are asking $120-$180 for the 500w and
over units.:eek:
That $79 offer might not be so bad.;)

Susquehannock
05-09-2003, 09:31 AM
------------------------------
update:

HERE (http://www.bostonbestpc.com/ag50atxdualf.html) is the exact same 500w unit as above but for $78. It
also comes with the 24-20pin adapter.
The vendor has a good listing of the specifications too.

These PSU are usually for Dual CPU and Server boards.
They should be great for an OverClocking rig.:)

Royal Oaks
05-09-2003, 09:47 AM
This looks familiar :cool: (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12159)

Hey another familiar sighting :cool: (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10652)

Mtgoat
05-10-2003, 10:18 AM
Most folks seem to forget that Wattage isn't everything. There are a lot of 350W and 400W PSU's out there that just don't cut it because they don't have the line amps per rail to back up the rated Watts. Most run of the mill PSU's ony carry 25 to 28 amps max as compared to the better ones with 45 amps or more on the 3.3v and 5v rails. I am currently running a Robanton 600W PSU that carries 3.3v=40A/ 5v=50A/ 12v=16A.

felix88
05-10-2003, 01:54 PM
watts = amps x volts

i believe the rated maximum wattage is approximatly what the 3.3, 5 and 12 volt rails can do at the same time.

my 350W Sparkle can do 220W combined on the 3.3v and 5v rails, and the 12v rail can do 120w. that gives me 340w, close enough. cheaper PSUs just use cheaper components and won't last as long as a good one.

sauria
05-11-2003, 02:16 PM
My new PC Power Cooling TurboCool 510W seems a notch above the True Control 550 in my other nf7-s rig.

I thought it would be loud? It isn't Did they replace the fan on the new ones?