Conroe and PCMark04

[death metal]

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[Pressure]

I would tell you to benchmark something that people actually use, instead of these artificial benchmarks ;)

Photoshop effects, 3D Animation, video encoding and decoding performance and last but not least - tell us how that i965 based motherboard overclocks!

[StyM]

i think he's under nda...

[LarsK]

Interesting. Grammar in multithreaded is typically, in my experience, the first test to fail when a cpu is overclocked too far, especially with dualcores. In your case it's probably a compability/bios issue though

[Charles Wirth]

At default speed you are crashing the test?

We use and aknowledge Futuremark benches here as a way of measuring system performance. Death Metal is benching something "we use" and for the most part not "synthetic" as it moves data across various busses and displays rendered images on screen. His score is based on his supporting hardware as well.

[death metal]

LarsK/FUGGER, yep these are stock score. Not sure if it's because of the early beta BIOS and alpha drivers on the i965. I can't seem to fire up the Conroe on my ES D975XBX, at least, not yet.

I'll try a different Conroe CPU of same speed, or try a Conroe CPU of lower speed. I'll try to use a single stick of RAM as well and see if that wil fix the problem.

And I also ran 3DMark03 and Aquamark3 last night and there's no issue whatsoever. Hmmm...I might try 3DMark05/06 but these are mostly GPU bound anyway, PCMark02 works without issues and the memory score it gives is just ridiculously high, talk about World Record :):):)

[vanovich]

can you give us your score on pcmark 05 Death Metal?

[Vapor]

Can it run dual 32M? Also, any way you could get a DMM and check CPU volts? Your board might be (not-so-unexpectedly) undervolting :(

[death metal]

Hmm...can anyone with this same model ran PCMark04? I am thinking it's more of a PCMark04 issue than anything else. Running 3DMark01 looping for 20x with dual prime95 never produce any instability or hang and the system just kept humming.

I am ruling out CPU issue here, I hope someone with the same model (or higher) can confirm this.

http://sleektech.nl/~dm/temp/conroe/conroepcmark04.gif

[vanovich]

Hmm...can anyone with this same model ran PCMark04? I am thinking it's more of a PCMark04 issue than anything else. Running 3DMark01 looping for 20x with dual prime95 never produce any instability or hang and the system just kept humming.

I am ruling out CPU issue here, I hope someone with the same model (or higher) can confirm this.

http://sleektech.nl/~dm/temp/conroe/conroepcmark04.gif
try changing your timmings on your ram ,i had same problem ,though not at std clocks ,but try with the ram ,it helped here .

[eva2000]

i had that problem with 955XE until i upped the vcore alot more @4857mhz vcore had to be upped ~0.11v from 1.38v under load to 1.49v under load

[death metal]

Thanks guys, I'll try your suggestions...I just don't think I'll have to change the vCore or RAM timing as other benchmarks are a-ok, including dual Prime95 for 4hr+, dual SPi 32M, 3DMark01 loop, 3DMark03/05 test completion and PCMark05 completion.

Of all the test I did, only PCMark04 fails :( so I was stumped...thanks again, will try to check those settings..

[Vapor]

May just be a bug with PC04 :shrug:

[sluflyer06]

04 can be finicky, i'm stabilizing a 940 right now on water so i can get a baseline before i freeze it, eveyr bench runs perfectly and i dual primed for 3.5 hours with no errors but the grammar test is failing every time...this isn't the first time this has happened either.

most of the time i do what you are doing and just say F* it to 04.

[vanovich]

make sure you have windows advance settings to best quality and not performance for pcmark 04.and classic windows config is also a nono for pcmarks .i had same problem with pcmarks once .even though other benchmarks where stabil. but like i said,try losening the ram. whats your pcmarks 05 scores by the way? i had the error at the exact same spot.

[Hassan]

same with meon my opty 170, bh5 grammar passes, tccd grammar fails at same cpu speed, every way else stable, dual superpi32m, prime95 24 hr, memtest.. you get the point, relax mem timings

[IluvIntel]

make sure you have windows advance settings to best quality and not performance for pcmark 04.and classic windows config is also a nono for pcmarks .i had same problem with pcmarks once .even though other benchmarks where stabil. but like i said,try losening the ram. whats your pcmarks 05 scores by the way? i had the error at the exact same spot.

Oh no, Why would you increase system resources usage by setting it to best quality ?
I always run performance and classic windows, never had a problem with 04', the only time I ever get issues is in the 2nd multithreaded test however bumping up Vcore a touch and/or FSB voltage straighten this out.
Having said that, it may be the case with single core P4's.
Maybe code or conroe having minor conflict ? just a guess.:shrug:

[mike]

have the same problem ith YONAH - can run PCMark05 @ 3.5GHZ - yet PCMark04 not even at 2.5GHZ... - haven't tried stock speed but have a feeling it will also crash @ grammar.

Not even running grammar sep helps

[vanovich]

Oh no, Why would you increase system resources usage by setting it to best quality ?
I always run performance and classic windows, never had a problem with 04', the only time I ever get issues is in the 2nd multithreaded test however bumping up Vcore a touch and/or FSB voltage straighten this out.
Having said that, it may be the case with single core P4's.
Maybe code or conroe having minor conflict ? just a guess.:shrug:
come to think of it, think it was 05 that had those conditions .

[ORCBEAST]

Hey hows things been going around here ?

Have you got it up and running. I see you got PCMARK running with a lower CPU speed.

Have you looked at the latest INTEL BX boards ?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=96513

[865pe]

same with meon my opty 170, bh5 grammar passes, tccd grammar fails at same cpu speed, every way else stable, dual superpi32m, prime95 24 hr, memtest.. you get the point, relax mem timings
Opteron170 + TCCD grammer pass..;) not fail..
http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/1092/screenshot0625ok.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[don_vercetti]

I think it is a pcmark04 problem.

I've had 5 X2 3800's, and none of them have been able to run pcmark04, stock or clocked. I have also changed my mobo and ram and vid card throughout that time, and the HDD ran it perfectly on my Athlon XP.

Any chance of seeing some benchmark results on this beast? It'd be nice to see some Cinebench and dual pi32m results as well. Basically, just run anything you can think of that can avg out framerates or give a time to process, and we'll be very happy!

[Hassan]

Opteron170 + TCCD grammer pass..;) not fail
I was referring to my specific situation not in general... when my ram speed gets to a certain point grammar fails regardless of whether or not the system is stable for me otherwise.

[death metal]

I just remembered this post, till now, PCMark04 crashes with Abit AW9D-Max and any Conroe or Kentsfield CPU :(...

[TuKo]

That's a PCMark04 problem, it won't work with any Core2 CPU

[death metal]

tnx for info...

[finlay666]

couldnt run ona opty 170 or my current C2D

this might help
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=116886&page=2 (well from page 1)