Intel D975XBX "Bad Axe" Revision 304 - Who Wants One?

[Sneaky]

To make a long story short, Intel began shipping these boards about a week ago, so good luck getting them out of retail stores before the older revisions are sold out (a.k.a. not anytime soon)

I have a friend in Boston that has connections at an Intel channel, and he's going to be checking if they have received any revision 304 boards that support Conroe yet. If all goes well, these boards will be available through me and mikeguava in a short while.


Pricing for the boards has been established at $190 per board ($1900 per 10-pack OEM system builder pack)

the way this will all go down is that once we have a surefire 30 boards sold, everyone will send payment in full via either paypal, or money order/cashiers check

once payment is recieved for all 30 boards, the order will be submitted to the channel warehouse for processing (can take between 1-2 weeks for the order to ship, it is company policy at the channel to test all hardware before shipping it to ensure that there are no DOA boards)

then when the boards are shipped from the channel and recieved by me, they will be sent out to their respective buyers via USPS Priority/Global Priority mail




http://www.hpc.co.jp/B-P4/051208_D975X/D975X-L.gif


Boards will be ordered in multiples of 10 (OEM system builder bundles - estimated $190 per board)

if we get 20 orders and more people want them - we need 30 boards to be sold, there can't be any extras


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if you are one of the people who are going to be pre-ordering D975XBX rev. 304 boards, please email me at my alternative email address: sneaky.xe@gmail.com


include your Name, XS Display Name, and E-Mail where I can contact you if/when needed

please title the subject of the email - D975XBX Rev. 304 Pre-Order


-Justin

[vapb400]

Chris dot Hughes89 at gmail dot com

sorry :) I dont want spam :)

[Latiass]

latiass at gmail dot com

Throw me on the "maybe" list. :O We're Intel channel at work, so I might end up getting my own through that, and I'm also heading to ICC next week, so I might also win one there. If neither of those happen, though, I'm most certainly interested if the cash is in my pocket!

As a side note, let's hope for some juicy Conroe/Merom benches at the ICC, and hopefully some juicy info!

[automagic]

I'm interested but Intel boards have a reputation of not being much on overclocking. Do you think this one will have any oc ability?

Thanks

[Sneaky]

this has somewhat limited overclocking options, but the main thing is that it will run conroe, when no other boards will be out that fully support conroe until its official release in Q3

[zabomb4163]

so this will be useful for early ES chips.

[Latiass]

so this will be useful for early ES chips.

And as far as I know, dropping an ES/Extreme Edition (confirm?) into the 975XBX unlocks all the "enthusiast" features, so.. some extreme conroe overclocking, perhaps? 8)

[SluRRR]

If the price is no more than $250, count me in.

geshook at sbcglobal dot net

Since I am new here, could you please forward (at the email address above) some details about past group purchases and some of the payment options you used for them.

Many thanks.

[vengance_01]

Count me in if Price is not over 250$

jflogerzi @ gmail.com

[Waffles]

jakewaffles at hotmail.com

i def. want one! :)

[gone_fishin]

I found a way to overclock any chip to any speed you want on it. Just modify the ITK file (with Intel Developers ToolKit) in the bios update to change the hidden settings to what you want, flash the new settings, reboot, shut down, change jumper to start in maintenance mode, shut down, put jumper back, then boot into windows. Once changed hidden settings are flashed they stay till a new flash.

You can over ride the FSB to 1066 or 1333 and add or subtract up to 30% so this gives the entire FSB spectrum. Once you overide the hidden FSB overide for non-ES or EE chips, you manipulate the 30% burn in option to fine tune it to where you want to go.

This also works for the hidden vcore of Non-ES EE.

Here's my example,
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=86970

As you can see I am overclocked with a 920 to 41% above spec. This was done by setting the hidden FSB overide to 1066 then adding an additional 7% to the FSB manually.

[StixxX]

If you can ship it to Canada then corveete@hotmail.com but put me as a maybe wondering If i should get this now n be futureproof r wait till all the boards come n pick the best one...but if this happens we should finally see Conroe Overclocked by a bit:banana: :banana:

[gone_fishin]

Correction, I used the tool called Intel Integrator ToolKit.
Some are PM'ing asking what the developer toolkit is, sorry for the mixup.

http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/itk.htm

[freecableguy]

kjboughton @ COX DOT NET

i'm in for 2

[Extera]

So this board is surley supporting conroe?

"In addition to multiple thread support, the Intel 975X Express Chipset enables key performance-optimized capabilities such as support for multiple 2x8 graphics cards"

This also means crossfire support I gues?

Let you know if im in for 1 soon

[death metal]

The D975XBX is a great board that supports up to 30% overclock from the nominal FSB or clock speed. If you have an ES or an Extreme Edition, the features for voltage and multiplier setting, as well as the so called "enhanced power slope" that somehow reduces dropping will become available.

I am getting five(5) of these from internal contacts soon along with a "processor" ;)...

You can also play with Chipzilla tool, if you ever ran out of options specially if you are not using an ES or XE version of the processor =)

Have fun guys...and let us see some extreme volt modding for the motherboard. Btw, do let me know what other features you'd like to have on this board if ever you believe it is lacking and I'd be willing to shout it out to my relevant internal contacts.

Here's an old OC:

I changed the multiplier from 13 to 15. Not tested heavily, but it's 4Hours+ stable on Prime95. All other benchies work, 3DMark, PCMark, Sandra, S&M (run once only). Stock voltage, stock fan =)

CPU-Z Validation: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=79090

http://valid.x86-secret.com/ccpuz.php?id=79090

[althes]

In for one damianbarker at comcast dot net

[Extera]

sorry, didn´t do my homework.

Found a nice revieuw http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2681

[Eastcoasthandle]

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/intel975x%20badaxe_01220680109/10651.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/intel975x%20badaxe_01220680109/10652.png
Oh NOES!!!!!

[Extera]

the fsb max sucks

But in this tread you can read a bypass

[freecableguy]

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/intel975x%20badaxe_01220680109/10651.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/intel975x%20badaxe_01220680109/10652.png
Oh NOES!!!!!

200 + 30% (x1.30) = 260 FSB
That's an artifical limitation. This can be overcome with the Intel ITK (333 * 1.30 = ~433Mhz). Plenty to get an 8x CPU to the 3.6-4Ghz range no problem. 333Mhz FSB is based on support for the Conroe XE which is a 1.33Ghz FSB product. I am assuming that we should be able to "unlock/unhide" the higher FSB support with the new rev.

-FCG

[Extera]

An other issue might be mounting a tube on it / isulation of the mobo

There is not much space arround the socket. But he, it's not the worst problem to overcome :)

For the rest I join FCG, the fsb stucked @ 250/260 is just cuz it's 30% OC max.

[\Karting_freak]

ygpm buddy!

[Thorburn]

An other issue might be mounting a tube on it / isulation of the mobo

There is not much space arround the socket. But he, it's not the worst problem to overcome :)

For the rest I join FCG, the fsb stucked @ 250/260 is just cuz it's 30% OC max.

Have used a Vapochill XE-II with the D955XBK and D975XBX no problem in our labs.

[LarsK]

Have used a Vapochill XE-II with the D955XBK and D975XBX no problem in our labs.

No problems here with a D975XBX and a Mach II GT either. it actually works much better with the Mach II than the Asus P5WD2-E did, because it doesn't do the "shut down and restart" thing that Asus does @ 280+ MHz fsb.

My board is also completely stable @ 345 Mhz fsb with 4 mem blocks @ 1:1 cas 3-2-2-8.

I would love to get a rev. 304 board as well (mine is rev 0302), but I bet postage to Europe would cost an arm and a leg.....

[vengance_01]

No problems here with a D975XBX and a Mach II GT either. it actually works much better with the Mach II than the Asus P5WD2-E did, because it doesn't do the "shut down and restart" thing that Asus does @ 280+ MHz fsb.

My board is also completely stable @ 345 Mhz fsb with 4 mem blocks @ 1:1 cas 3-2-2-8.

I would love to get a rev. 304 board as well (mine is rev 0302), but I bet postage to Europe would cost an arm and a leg..... Nah USPS Would get it there cheap. For customs mark it dead computer hardware and say its a gifted:slap:

[Rovtar]

Wtf it hs 3 pcie-x?:S

[Sneaky]

top = 16x physical, 16x electrical
middle = 16x physical, 8x electrical
bottom = 16x physical, 4x electrical

[mine]

sorry if this is covered before

wonder how this rev.304 , which is a revision and not a new designed board will handle the high-end conroes mainly the 1333 EE version , due to the end of this year ?

[Extera]

They added some caps ect.

[Burner27]

Put me down for one:

jeffrey.siegel@gs.com

[Rovtar]

top = 16x physical, 16x electrical
middle = 16x physical, 8x electrical
bottom = 16x physical, 4x electrical

and what's the point of it?

[vengance_01]

and what's the point of it? I think you can do triple displays, buts that really it. I wish there were 3 PCI slots. That extra PCI-E slot is retarted.

[Sneaky]

I think you can do triple displays, buts that really it. I wish there were 3 PCI slots. That extra PCI-E slot is retarted.


if you're running a pci-express SCSI controller or something, then its definitely not useless

[gone_fishin]

Ethernet, usb, firewire, sata cards, the upcoming physics cards(maybe), a third display card, a tv tunercard, they all come in PCI express these days and would plug right in, probably more too. Doesn't pcie offer more bandwidth over pci for any of these uses? Lots of boards are only giving the tiny pcie1X slot but this larger extra pcie X16 sized slot probably gives more options even if it only runs 1X.

[vengance_01]

Ethernet, usb, firewire, sata cards, the upcoming physics cards(maybe), a third display card, a tv tunercard, they all come in PCI express these days and would plug right in, probably more too. Doesn't pcie offer more bandwidth over pci for any of these uses? Lots of boards are only giving the tiny pcie1X slot but this larger extra pcie X16 sized slot probably gives more options even if it only runs 1X. Yea I guess, but its been a very slow process to migrate over to PCI-E instead of PCI slots.

[vengance_01]

Sneaky what time frame are we looking at? I need a computer ATM, and want to order soon.

[Sneaky]

probably 1-2 weeks once we get a guarantee on the availability of rev. 304 boards

[Sneaky]

the last 16x slot is also compatible with any smaller PCI-E interfaces - it just won't take up the entire length of the slot

[Sneaky]

update:

OK, he says he has boards available, but he needs to check if they're revision 304 yet


but we can get OEM 10-packs of boards (system builder packs) for about $1900 a peice, so thats ~$190 per board is what he estimated w/o shipping

[cupholder2.0]

The motherboard should OC decently. The D975XBX and D955XBK have exactly the same bios options. Im on the D955XBK and I got my Presler 950 to 4.5 Ghz and Im not maxed yet. Im not using the bios to OC though.


Does anyone know how to use the Intel Integrator Tool Kit to mod the bios? Where do I get the new .itk file to start modding it?

[afireinside]

Where can I get a conroe soon? I'm interested like I was with yonah but I'm afraid this will be the same but reversed. Board with no CPUs.

[vapb400]

Doesn't make a difference to me, but doees it being OEM mean that it is the board on the right here: http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bx/bx_available.htm
aka no firewire, additional raid, or spdif

jw

~$190 + shipping sounds awesome....keep up the good work.

[freecableguy]

The motherboard should OC decently. The D975XBX and D955XBK have exactly the same bios options. Im on the D955XBK and I got my Presler 950 to 4.5 Ghz and Im not maxed yet. Im not using the bios to OC though.


Does anyone know how to use the Intel Integrator Tool Kit to mod the bios? Where do I get the new .itk file to start modding it?

I have the *.itk file for the 975XBX board. :)

The available FSB options to set for default in the BIOS are: 533, 800, 1067 and 1333 MHz :)

I will make a custom BIOS for anyone that wants one. :D

http://members.cox.net/kjboughton/1333.jpg

[cupholder2.0]

Thanks, could come in handy when I get a 975 :)

Anyway how did you get the default config override? I have that when I go into bios but I cant see it in the tool kit.

[Sneaky]

I have the *.itk file for the 975XBX board. :)

The available FSB options to set for default in the BIOS are: 533, 800, 1067 and 1333 MHz :)

I will make a custom BIOS for anyone that wants one. :D

http://members.cox.net/kjboughton/1333.jpg




could you teach me how to use that? i understand how to mod everything, but not how to save/export the BIOS and be able to flash the board with it once its been modded in ITK

thanks
-JR

[Sneaky]

Doesn't make a difference to me, but doees it being OEM mean that it is the board on the right here: http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bx/bx_available.htm
aka no firewire, additional raid, or spdif

jw

~$190 + shipping sounds awesome....keep up the good work.

i don't know why it wouldn't come with the extra 4 silicon RAID SATA ports, but otherwise i just don't think that it ships with the front panel thingy or the extra USB/firewire PCI connections


edit: theres two 10-pack order codes, and what i THINK is the situation is that:

KD975XBXLKRPAK10 = 10 pack of desktop D975XBX boards

BLKD975XBXLKR = 10 pack of boards w/o the extra SATA ports


checking with my friend about this right now - we should have an answer soon

[freecableguy]

File -> Generate BIOS File... to create the *.BIO file after you are done making changes. Save as "bx0908p.bio".

Then go here (http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=N&Inst=Yes&ProductID=2205&DwnldID=10321&strOSs=38&OSFullName=OS%20Independent&lang=eng) and download the BX0908P.ISO file (2nd from the top).

Open the ISO file with something like UltraISO. Replace the *.bio file with the BIO file you just created and then save the ISO. Then burn the ISO to a CD using Nero or other similar program

Reboot the Intel board with the CD-ROM inserted. Follow the prompts. The system will reboot once more and then flash the BIOS automatically.

-FCG

[vapb400]

FCG I take it the Albatron board was no luck?

I just opened the program up and took a peek around. THat is a very cool program I forsee alot of custom XS BIOS in the future (even if they are only basically tweaked with a logo :)).

[freecableguy]

FCG I take it the Albatron board was no luck?

I just opened the program up and took a peek around. THat is a very cool program I forsee alot of custom XS BIOS in the future (even if they are only basically tweaked with a logo :)).

Albatron channel has stalled. Waiting for samples to become available.... :(

[Burner27]

i don't know why it wouldn't come with the extra 4 silicon RAID SATA ports, but otherwise i just don't think that it ships with the front panel thingy or the extra USB/firewire PCI connections


edit: theres two 10-pack order codes, and what i THINK is the situation is that:

KD975XBXLKRPAK10 = 10 pack of desktop D975XBX boards

BLKD975XBXLKR = 10 pack of boards w/o the extra SATA ports


checking with my friend about this right now - we should have an answer soon


I would prefer the board with the extra SATA ports if that is possible.

[gone_fishin]

You don't need to create a new .bio bios file, you just make a new settings configurations and flash that. If you want to change the boot logo or something like that then make a .bio bios file.

I can make a simple tutorial if needed.

[cupholder2.0]

Wait can you guys tell me how to get the Default config override feature under Chipset? I can see it in my actual bios but Dont see it here...

[Sneaky]

File -> Generate BIOS File... to create the *.BIO file after you are done making changes. Save as "bx0908p.bio".

Then go here (http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=N&Inst=Yes&ProductID=2205&DwnldID=10321&strOSs=38&OSFullName=OS%20Independent&lang=eng) and download the BX0908P.ISO file (2nd from the top).

Open the ISO file with something like UltraISO. Replace the *.bio file with the BIO file you just created and then save the ISO. Then burn the ISO to a CD using Nero or other similar program

Reboot the Intel board with the CD-ROM inserted. Follow the prompts. The system will reboot once more and then flash the BIOS automatically.

-FCG


thanks alot fcg :toast:

[death metal]

Use the ITK Framework Edition and you won't need a BIO file just a config file saved on a bootable diskette. Hit the "Generate Media" and load a bootable diskette and voila, the dos-based ITK will just "unlock" the other options in the BIOS.

Don't forget the Enhanced Power Slope =).....

Really nice to see you guys tweaking an Intel-branded board =)...

[cupholder2.0]

Thanks, so your saying that dos based itk will just auto unlock the other features? interesting...and what exactly does the "Enhanced Power Slope " do?

[Sneaky]

enhanced power slope is something thats supposed to reduce vdroop - and from what i've seen, it actually works

[cupholder2.0]

wow thats pretty impressive. Anyway what do you guys think about Intel desktop control center?


http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/744/idb3rd.jpg

This is a quick OC on a spare prescott, it looks cool and all but it starts a little slow and hates all other programs which try to access the Pll, SMBUS, temp sensors etc. If I run any other program which uses these the program instantly crashs and wont work until I reinstall and rebot. Anyone else get this problem?

[gone_fishin]

I put up a quick and dirty ITK tutorial to get people started on the 975XBX who are not blessed with engineering samples or wads of cash for extreme edition processors.

Enjoy. :D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1403187#post1403187

[PGHammer]

To make a long story short, Intel began shipping these boards about a week ago, so good luck getting them out of retail stores before the older revisions are sold out (a.k.a. not anytime soon)

I have a friend in Boston that has connections at an Intel channel, and he's going to be checking if they have received any revision 304 boards that support Conroe yet. If all goes well, these boards will be available through me and mikeguava in a short while.


-Justin




http://www.hpc.co.jp/B-P4/051208_D975X/D975X-L.gif




Sneaky
mikeguava
vapb400
Latiass (?)
SluRRR
vengance_01
Waffles
StixxX (?)
freecableguy (2)
^^
althes
\Karting_freak (2)
^^
Burner27
krullet









Add me, please. pghammer21@comcast.net

Just one for now. Don't need the extra SATA ports.

[cupholder2.0]

I put up a quick and dirty ITK tutorial to get people started on the 975XBX who are not blessed with engineering samples or wads of cash for extreme edition processors.

Enjoy. :D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1403187#post1403187

Very nice work. Too bad I dont have much use for it :( lol, I have an ES so I already got the options. I wonder if there is someway more options can be added lol. Too bad Intel doesn't allow direct FSB changing instead of the percent.

[SluRRR]

Doesn't make a difference to me, but doees it being OEM mean that it is the board on the right here: http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bx/bx_available.htm
aka no firewire, additional raid, or spdif

jw

~$190 + shipping sounds awesome....keep up the good work.

Per the link provided above by vapb400, BLKD975XBXLKR is the board with 8 sata. This is the only board I am interested in. If you can work out a purchase for this board, I'm still in.

I would also assume that none of the retail 'extras' (software, cables, bay inserts, etc) would be included in the oem package. I can live without these extras, but I would like confirmation.

Thanks.

[gone_fishin]

Very nice work. Too bad I dont have much use for it :( lol, I have an ES so I already got the options. I wonder if there is someway more options can be added lol. Too bad Intel doesn't allow direct FSB changing instead of the percent.

Thanks :)

1 percentage changes are small increments.
At 800fsb 1% = 2mhz fsb boost
at 1066 1% = 2.66mhz fsb boost
at 1333 1% = 3.33mhz fsb boost

It works in plus or minus mode so you have a full array of fsb steps from 200 up to 433 with multiple ways to achieve them.

[tdenton1138]

Greetings all.

Could this be the board for me?

A little while back, I had my NewEgg shopping cart all loaded up with my upgrade to an s939 165 (since we all knew AM2 wasn't all that) from my well used p4 2.53 when I read about Conroe...

Now, like so many others, I am anxiously awaiting real results/availability - although I've seen Victor's amazing results, so I guess we all have an inkling of what to expect. I had already resigned myself to waiting until Conroe was released to upgrade and in fact purchased a refurb agp 6800gt (replaced a 9800pro) to hold me over while I explore Oblivion.

Unfortunately, if I were to jump on this board, I will need a stop gap processor while waiting for Conroe. I don't know if that's that big a deal, but I'm not sure what I should get... and perhaps I could ebay it once Conroe is out.

New mobo ($225), new cpu (920? $240? best bang for the buck for now I suppose until the 2.66 Conroe hits?), new air cooling ($50?), new ram ($? Is there 'good enough for Conroe' ddr2 already out?), new video ($300+)... hopefully my powersupply will hold up - its a CompUSA semi generic ("Mad Dog" - don't laugh, I was desperate) '500' watt unit, but seems to do fine.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. I'd really love to upgrade now, and think this board might be my ticket.

Tad

[vapb400]

so who is gonna find the vcore/vdimm mods? :)

[Sneaky]

freecableguy ;)

[cupholder2.0]

Thanks :)

1 percentage changes are small increments.
At 800fsb 1% = 2mhz fsb boost
at 1066 1% = 2.66mhz fsb boost
at 1333 1% = 3.33mhz fsb boost

It works in plus or minus mode so you have a full array of fsb steps from 200 up to 433 with multiple ways to achieve them.


Yeah, Im aware of that, I was just saying that it would be a little nicer if you could also just change the FSB. Would allow a little more control.
Anyway Im glad Intel is being a lot more OC friendly now.

[vengance_01]

Greetings all.

Could this be the board for me?

A little while back, I had my NewEgg shopping cart all loaded up with my upgrade to an s939 165 (since we all knew AM2 wasn't all that) from my well used p4 2.53 when I read about Conroe...

Now, like so many others, I am anxiously awaiting real results/availability - although I've seen Victor's amazing results, so I guess we all have an inkling of what to expect. I had already resigned myself to waiting until Conroe was released to upgrade and in fact purchased a refurb agp 6800gt (replaced a 9800pro) to hold me over while I explore Oblivion.

Unfortunately, if I were to jump on this board, I will need a stop gap processor while waiting for Conroe. I don't know if that's that big a deal, but I'm not sure what I should get... and perhaps I could ebay it once Conroe is out.

New mobo ($225), new cpu (920? $240? best bang for the buck for now I suppose until the 2.66 Conroe hits?), new air cooling ($50?), new ram ($? Is there 'good enough for Conroe' ddr2 already out?), new video ($300+)... hopefully my powersupply will hold up - its a CompUSA semi generic ("Mad Dog" - don't laugh, I was desperate) '500' watt unit, but seems to do fine.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. I'd really love to upgrade now, and think this board might be my ticket.

Tad
Grab a 805. 130$ Dual core Pentium D

[Gautam]

the_mongoose_50 at hotmail dot com

just to confirm.

[mike]

Soon we'll start a XBX - competition thread here :D

[Sneaky]

now that we're getting closer to 20 boards, please email me at my alternative email address: sneaky.xe@gmail.com if you are one of the people who are going to be pre-ordering D975XBX rev. 304 boards


include your Name, XS Display Name, and E-Mail where I can contact you if/when needed

please title the subject of the email - D975XBX Rev. 304 Pre-Order


thank you
-Justin

[Durzel]

Have emailed you Sneaky as per your instructions above, hope I'm not too late to get in on this :)

[althes]

sent email as requested

[Burner27]

"You've got G-Mail"

[Extera]

And another one

[tdenton1138]

Done and very much looking forward to being able to upgrade finally.

[wakeskier]

KD975XBXLKRPAK10 = 10 pack of desktop D975XBX boards

BLKD975XBXLKR = 10 pack of boards w/o the extra SATA ports


checking with my friend about this right now - we should have an answer soon

Did you get confirmation on which version you will be able to get?
I would need the extra SATA ports...

[freecableguy]

Here's what I know (hope this helps locate the right boards):

Model: Intel D975XBX
Part#: D27094-304
PCN 106056-00 (http://developer.intel.com/design/pcn/MTHRBRD/D1060560.pdf)

[SluRRR]

now that we're getting closer to 20 boards, please email me at my alternative email address: sneaky.xe@gmail.com if you are one of the people who are going to be pre-ordering D975XBX rev. 304 boards


include your Name, XS Display Name, and E-Mail where I can contact you if/when needed

please title the subject of the email - D975XBX Rev. 304 Pre-Order


thank you
-Justin

Sent email.

[JimboJoe43]

Looking to upgrade my cuv4x/733mhz now looks to be a good time. :toast:

I have sent an email to sneaky.

BLKD975XBXLKR = 10 pack of D27094
BOXD975XBXLKR = retail box of D27094

These are the models with the 8 SATA connectors (4xSATA2, 4xSATA-150).

If I have spread misinformation please correct me.

[JimboJoe43]

http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d975xbx/sb/CS-022036.htm

10-Pack Product Codes

BLKD975XBXLKR
KD975XBXLKRPAK10

It seems they are different box codes for the same product.

Maybe Intel likes to confuse their customers?

So according to this page both of those seem to have the 8 SATA ports.

[Sneaky]

yeah, that seems to be the most recent document as well


i'll double check on this with the guy at the channel though

[freecableguy]

sneaky - check this url: http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bx/bx_proc.htm

BIOS 0618 is needed to support the 965XE....wonder if this is the "future" processor support. I still have a hard time believing that 10 resistors and 2 capacitors is all that is needed to support Conroe. I have a funny feeling that we're all going to get these rev 304 boards with still no Conroe support. I think this rev is nothing different than the rev 302 with just a few small changes. Big deal. The final Conroe compatability will come from yet another new BIOS...I think.

[Thorburn]

freecableguy: The 304 revision DOES support Conroe and the modifications are essential to enabling this.

[freecableguy]

freecableguy: The 304 revision DOES support Conroe and the modifications are essential to enabling this.

the only modification that I can possibly see that needs to be done is coupling the VIDSEL (pin 40) to VCC/EN (pin 1) to select to VRM 11 VID table over the VRM 10.x table. I'm going to do this when I go home and see what happens.

here's the "mod" for the ADP3189 (8-bit Programmable 2- to 5-Phase Synchronous Buck Controller):

[gone_fishin]

Yes, processor microcode must be included in any bios to work with that processor.
Intel is supporting this board very well so far with a lot of bios updates to timely fix issues and include new processor support. My bet is Conroe support is not in there yet. If they needed a bios update to include 965ee microcode then it is highly unlikely they put Conroe microcode into the bios just yet.

Being "Conroe ready" and having the actual microcode support in the bios are two different things.

[Sneaky]

hrm... this is true...

[S2M]

So $190 a board? Plus shipping?

[Sneaky]

yea

[-aDaM^]

you can add me sneaky.

[Pokyoky]

E-mailed you earlier, count me in

[S2M]

Ok, just to bare with me here. I haven't owned an Intel setup in 4 years ;)

These boards are listed as 1066/800FSB but people are mentioning dropping a 805 in to one of these boards. Can anyone confirm that works?

If thats the case then count me in on getting one.

[SluRRR]

Last we heard, availability of the rev 304's had not yet been confirmed. Any updates?

[Extera]

Ok, just to bare with me here. I haven't owned an Intel setup in 4 years ;)

These boards are listed as 1066/800FSB but people are mentioning dropping a 805 in to one of these boards. Can anyone confirm that works?

If thats the case then count me in on getting one.

check the intel site, saying it support's intel D
If I'll get this board, i'm putting a 805 in till conroe 2

[S2M]

check the intel site, saying it support's intel D
If I'll get this board, i'm putting a 805 in till conroe 2

Ok sweet, definately down for this then.

[Extera]

Support for Intel® Pentium® D Processor (in an LGA775 socket with a 800 MHz system bus)

http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/d975xbx/index.htm

805 seems like a nice cpu to hold up with, and put under some extreme cooling to get to know the board's OC options :)

[gone_fishin]

Only the 800fsb Pentium D's are officially supported.

The 805 is not on the list and is a 533fsb chip. I would not count on the microcode for the processor as being suported in the bios because only 800mhz and higher fsb chips make the list.

http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bx/bx_proc.htm

[tdenton1138]

hmmm... so now we seem to have a debate as to whether of not this board will support either the 805 or conroe. I know Intel says the rev 304 supports conroe, but there seems to be some doubt about that... I also am planning on the 805 until conroe, and expect that this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1402994&postcount=44) will be able to set the motherboard to run the 805 until conroe hits.

I hope this can all get straightened out before an ordering deadline of some sort hits...

[gone_fishin]

hmmm... so now we seem to have a debate as to whether of not this board will support either the 805 or conroe. I know Intel says the rev 304 supports conroe, but there seems to be some doubt about that... I also am planning on the 805 until conroe, and expect that this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1402994&postcount=44) will be able to set the motherboard to run the 805 until conroe hits.

I hope this can all get straightened out before an ordering deadline of some sort hits...

There is no doubt that Conroe is supported and 805 is not, at least in my mind.
The ITK cannot add microcode for new processors so it will not help at this time if you get an early Conroe. Early Conroes are likely to be engineering samples so again no need for ITK.
If you get the microcode somehow and are handy with extracting bios modules and adding it in with a hex editor without ruining the checksum then early Conroe is possible on the board. Or getting your hands on an insider bios version that supports Conroe (please share if anyone does). One obviously exists as they demo'd it on the 975xbx already.
The last and least likely scenario is Conroe microcode has been included in the bios already.

[LightMeDark]

email sent

[tdenton1138]

Well, I am not really concerned about getting an 'early' conroe (like before they are officially released) since I cannot think of how that would happen. Assuming this board has the hardware to support Conroe, then a bios update should be forthcoming with the release of Conroe if it needs it.

I would still need an interim processor though. Do you think that using the ITK to set the fsb to 533 would not be sufficient to run the 805? I do see that the 820 ($157 v $130 for the 805) would work (along with the 630/631). I would be fine with the 820 if necessary as a bridge to Conroe.

Is there any reason this should not work?

[Sneaky]

i don't see why this board wouldnt work with the 805... intel wouldnt exclude a processor from being compatible with their current flagship board...

[S2M]

I have a rev 302 board at work, I'll try and drop a 805 in it tomorrow and see what happens.

[PGHammer]

now that we're getting closer to 20 boards, please email me at my alternative email address: sneaky.xe@gmail.com if you are one of the people who are going to be pre-ordering D975XBX rev. 304 boards


include your Name, XS Display Name, and E-Mail where I can contact you if/when needed

please title the subject of the email - D975XBX Rev. 304 Pre-Order


thank you
-Justin

You have GMail (confirming my earlier post in the thread).

PGHammer

[Ender17]

g-mail sent

[Burner27]

I am glad I can use my 840D EE on this board until Conroe comes out. :D

[S2M]

I tested the 805 on the rev 302 975x board today, it posts and detects the CPU just fine.

[Thorburn]

It should do too, theres a 533 option in the BIOS on them.

[S2M]

It should do too, theres a 533 option in the BIOS on them.

True but 'officially' the board supports 1066/800 only.

[kiwi]

Anyone got any info about other manufacturers and conroe support? Is it more serious than bios update for 975 boards? Maybe newer revisions will be out.

A few Intel boards I had didn't oc at all :)

[\Karting_freak]

kiwi
some caps were added + new vrm

[JimboJoe43]

Here is a response I received from someone at asus when asked about conroe support on the P5WD-E Premium.

"The Intel Conroe processors will more than likely be supported via a bios update. However until Intel releases the CPU or at least documentation on how the CPU should be addressed I can't guarantee that."

Guess that really does not help anyone..

[DaWaN]

Here is a response I received from someone at asus when asked about conroe support on the P5WD-E Premium.

"The Intel Conroe processors will more than likely be supported via a bios update. However until Intel releases the CPU or at least documentation on how the CPU should be addressed I can't guarantee that."

Guess that really does not help anyone..

Sounds like bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: to me, there are already ES'es floating around and Intel didn't have documentation about it ? Making a CPU with information you'll get after you made it..... Really stupid answer imo.....

[Ender17]

I just picked up a 820 for $130
guess I can handle the downgrade from a X2 3800+ for a few months

sending in my PCP&C to get the 8 pin aux changed

now all I need is a good 2 x 1GB DDR2 kit - anyone got a suggestion?

[Sneaky]

We're almost to 30 boards now, and so far I have recieved e-mail confirmations from the following people:


Sneaky
\Karting_freak (2)
^^
Burner27
PGHammer
Extera
-aDaM^
Pokyoky
althes
tdenton1138
SluRRR
Durzel
LightMeDark
hicookie
Ender17
wakeskier
vapb400
Gautam
S2M




the people below still need to do the following:

please email me at my alternative email address: sneaky.xe@gmail.com

include your Name, XS Display Name, and E-Mail where I can contact you if/when needed

please title the subject of the email - D975XBX Rev. 304 Pre-Order



mikeguava
Latiass (?)
vengance_01
Waffles
StixxX (?)
althes
krullet

[Sneaky]

ender, whats your budget for some ram? if you only have a few bucks the ocz gold ddr2-667 2gb kit is a pretty good investment

[SluRRR]

Sneaky - you have me in both lists. email confirmation already sent.

[SluRRR]

Sneaky - What's the latest news?

(I know - I'm an impatient little bugger. :D)

[Sneaky]

just noticed that slurrr, please delete the massive quote in your post as well please

problem fixed

-JR

[vapb400]

emailed you sneaky. thanks

[Sneaky]

thanks vapb - got it and edited the lists :)

[Gautam]

Also sent.

[S2M]

Sent

[Sneaky]

thank you guatam and s2m - lists have been edited

[Levish]

will the board ship with the correct rev bios for conroe support?

[SluRRR]

My interest in this mobo is purely for Conroe compatibility. In light of this recent posting http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=96989, I feel I must hold off on purchasing the D975XBX. I hate this because I really like this board. Recent posts by gone_fishin and freecableguy (and others) have shown that this board really has a lot of potential. I was really looking forward to getting my hands on a rev 304, but if there are no definitive documents (i.e. from Intel) that state it will support Conroe, I will have to wait.

I should point out that I have read the ECN for the rev 304 board (as have many of you), and it does not state definitively that this board will support Conroe. I assumed that support for future processors meant Conroe.

[StixxX]

I am going the same as Sluurr I don't got money to burn so I rather be safe than sorry.So I am out of this too as he said and what everyone wants this board for was for Conroe and it seems like this is a guess more than a proven fact that Conroe is supported.

[vapb400]

Sorry Sneaky, count me out too, for the same reason as Stixxx amd Sluurr

[Thorburn]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1409191&postcount=17

[S2M]

I'll stay in, Conroe will be supported on rev 304 in IMO. Its my understanding that the conroe test systems that Anandtech and others got access too were running this particular board.

[freecableguy]

I have given you guys another piece of the puzzle.

[Durzel]

I'll stay in, Conroe will be supported on rev 304 in IMO. Its my understanding that the conroe test systems that Anandtech and others got access too were running this particular board.They were, and FCG has confirmed it.

I'm in, and I wanna move up the pack because of the non-believers! :p: Heretics! :p:

[TyCanadian]

Read the thread and wasn't clear on whether you can ship to Canada or not, is it possible?

Are there any other features on this board that are different from previous revisions?

Thanks!

[thunderstruck!]

Read the thread and wasn't clear on whether you can ship to Canada or not, is it possible?

Are there any other features on this board that are different from previous revisions?

Thanks!
He said Global Priority Mail, so Canada = yes.

[WildEye]

Sneaky you got pm.

[TyCanadian]

Sorry to be a bother, I have read the whole thread but just want to be clear about things before I decide. If these boards are OEM system builder versions only, what exactly will be missing when compared to a retail packaged board, and where would any potential warranty be handled through? Thanks, I really appreciate this Sneaky/guys.

[S2M]

Sorry to be a bother, I have read the whole thread but just want to be clear about things before I decide. If these boards are OEM system builder versions only, what exactly will be missing when compared to a retail packaged board, and where would any potential warranty be handled through? Thanks, I really appreciate this Sneaky/guys.

In my experience with system builder boards nothing will be missing. Basically its just a box with ten motherboards and accessories in it but no retail packaging. Boards carry a three year Intel warranty.

[SluRRR]

Doh! :confused:

[AndreYang]

sent...Thanks

[WildEye]

One more question...

The board we are talking about is this right?

http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bx/bx_available.htm
BLKD975XBXLKR and not LAD975XBXLKR

8sata vs 4
Digital audio vs none
Firewire vs none

[i found nemo]

"You've got G-Mail"


lmao

[bobov]

sent email. I'm in for one.

thanks

[tdenton1138]

Sorry Sneaky, count me out too, for the same reason as Stixxx amd Sluurr

You three should check this out before making your decision: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1409471&postcount=20

I don't want to waste $ either, I just really, really want to upgrade out of my p4 2.53 (533fsb) setup. It appears to me that this board does in fact support Conroe - even FCG agrees that this Badaxe rev 304 board DOES in fact support Conroe...

Thought you'd like to know...

[SluRRR]

I clearly jumped the gun on this. I improperly interpreted FCG's early post. He has subsequently issued a clarification (as tdenton1138 has pointed out). Please read the complete thread for details.

My apologies.

[Sneaky]

these 4 members still need to confirm that they want boards with me via email:


Latiass (?)
vengance_01
Waffles
StixxX (?)

[TyCanadian]

I sent you an email Sneaky. I'm in for one if there's still room. Thanks!

[Sneaky]

the following people have 24 hours to confirm themselves as having a board reserved, otherwise they will be removed from the order list:

Latiass
vengance_01
Waffles
StixxX


if thoes 4 people confirm that they want a board, we will have to wait until 7 more people have interest in a board, we can only do this in multiples of 10 with the system builder 10-pack board bundles



TyCanadian: added to the list :)

[Durzel]

the following people have 24 hours to confirm themselves as having a board reserved, otherwise they will be removed from the order list:

Latiass
vengance_01
Waffles
StixxX


if thoes 4 people confirm that they want a board, we will have to wait until 7 more people have interest in a board, we can only do this in multiples of 10 with the system builder 10-pack board bundles



TyCanadian: added to the list :)Just a thought - is it worth taking payment for batches of 10 and processing them seperately?

Only reason I ask is that otherwise this thread has the danger of running on forever, with more and more people expressing an interest and no one actually putting their money where their mouth is :)

I wonder even with the current list of users whether everyone would pay up in a timely fashion? :confused:

[vengance_01]

You got email sneaky count me in. The XPS M170 is going back.:)

[tdenton1138]

I would be happy to forward my $ now to get an earlier order in...

[Sneaky]

we can only order in multiples of 10 - i'll be calling on monday to see if we could just grab the first 30 now, and the last 10 once we have the last few confirmed people

[LightMeDark]

thanks for the update, sneaky

[tdenton1138]

I'm sure we're all looking forward to Monday, then :)

[jmax_oc]

Hello,
VCore maxi ?
VDimm maxi ?
VChipset maxi ?
What memory's divider ?

Thanks :)

[Sneaky]

vcore max is 1.6 or 1.7 IIRC, vdimm is 2.2, chipset is 1.65 IIRC

memory is 400/533/667/800/1000 IIRC


theres a great review that lists all the features on anandtech or THG (i forgot) but just google for a review of the board

[adamant415]

Hey sneaky I'm Adam Moore #32 on the list. You can go ahead and track me by my xtremesystem forum name now.

adamant415

[Sneaky]

Alright guys, I have an update:

Right now the channel warehouse only has revision 302 boards, and they checked with Intel about the availability of revision 304 boards, and right now Intel is still only shipping 302 boards until they run the stock down.

He advised me to check back in 2-3 weeks and hopefully Intel will be shipping 304 boards by that time.


Will update this thread again as soon as I get more information

-Justin

[Sneaky]

Update again:

the guy at the channel had older tech documents and order numbers for the boards, but I gave him the new info for the 304 boards and he's gonna call intel again the first thing in the morning to see whats up with the 304 boards with the new info

[Ender17]

Update again:

the guy at the channel had older tech documents and order numbers for the boards, but I gave him the new info for the 304 boards and he's gonna call intel again the first thing in the morning to see whats up with the 304 boards with the new info
cool, keep us posted
I'm holding off on my fresh install of windows until I get this board

[Burner27]

Sneaky,

Sent you an email from my alternate email addy with a question.


Thx

[WildEye]

Thanks for the update Sneaky.

I'm sure it will be alot of returns when these boards hit the stores with the old revs lying around, esp in remote locations that dont have much circulation of these boards, like here in Norway :)

I'm happy to wait for the good revision.

[bobov]

Any update, sneaky? :)

[vengance_01]

I talked to him tonight and he said no new news. Mabey tomarrow.

[Durzel]

Fingers crossed! :)

[automagic]

Hello Sneaky,

I have sent you a gmail, I want in.

Thanks

[Sneaky]

still no news as of 7:30AM... possibly tonight


added 2 more people to the list to complete the 40, yet thoes 4 people still havent sent me any confirmation or tried to contact me in any way

i'll send them a final PM tonight and then they're gone

[Chr325is]

Sweet I can finally post, anyways heres a bump for an e-mail sent yesterday. :toast:

[SluRRR]

Sneaky,

Number 6 and number 35 on the list are duplicates.

[automagic]

Sorry guys but I have to ask, I didn't see Cedar Mill cores mentioned as being supported by the bad axe. That will work won't it?

Thanks

[TheMagician]

Would there be any chance of getting one in Germany?
Meaning would it be possible for me to order one and have you send it to the Germany?

[vengance_01]

Sorry guys but I have to ask, I didn't see Cedar Mill cores mentioned as being supported by the bad axe. That will work won't it?

Thanks yes this board support all current LGA chips. And he did say world wide shipping, so I think you are ok:)

[Sneaky]

i will ship world wide as long as the buyer pays for the shipping

[TheMagician]

Thanks for your fast reply.
I will wait until anything new comes around and let you knw if I'm in or not.

[Donnie27]

the only modification that I can possibly see that needs to be done is coupling the VIDSEL (pin 40) to VCC/EN (pin 1) to select to VRM 11 VID table over the VRM 10.x table. I'm going to do this when I go home and see what happens.

here's the "mod" for the ADP3189 (8-bit Programmable 2- to 5-Phase Synchronous Buck Controller):

Yes but it's E6600 and i965 or bust for me, I want ICH-8 anyway.

[WildEye]

Any word on the boards Sneaky?

Availaability and the last few that haven't confirmed?

[Sneaky]

sorry - the past few days my internet has been up and down in random intervals, we have a guy from time warner coming at 10 today to check it out


but no word from my friend yet


and we're still missing email confirmations from 3 people on the main list:

Latiass
Waffles
Dumo



-Justin

[TyCanadian]

Sneaky -- unfortunately I need a new computer relatively soon, and since it is for business as well as pleasure, I won't be able to wait if they're not shipping this week as originally hoped. I am very sorry if I am causing any inconvenience, but since you haven't made any actual orders yet I hope it's okay. If they are available in the next few days, I'll still take one, but if we still have no news by the weekend I'm afraid I'll have to ask you to take me off the list. Thanks again for going to all this trouble for the community though, we all really appreciate it and if I wasn't on a tight schedule I'd wait as long as it took.

If you'd like me to send you an email as well for your records, just let me know.

[s7e9h3n]

Hey all,
I've heard from a very reliable source that Intel is holding off on the release of the rev.304 boards indefinately. They allocation of these motherboards is scarce as it is, but it doesn't look likely that any orders will be filled anytime soon. You can choose to believe me or not, but what do I know....I'm just an AMD guy :( :p:

[d@rkn1ko]

:rolleyes:

[tdenton1138]

Hey all,
I've heard from a very reliable source that Intel is holding off on the release of the rev.304 boards indefinately. They allocation of these motherboards is scarce as it is, but it doesn't look likely that any orders will be filled anytime soon. You can choose to believe me or not, but what do I know....I'm just an AMD guy :( :p:

I hope that doesn't mean they are strong-arming other companies from releasing their own rev 304 boards. Asus, DFI, MSI, etc? The specs are out. Why would they wait?

[WildEye]

Well well well...

Thats sad news if true...

[gone_fishin]

I hope that doesn't mean they are strong-arming other companies from releasing their own rev 304 boards. Asus, DFI, MSI, etc? The specs are out. Why would they wait?

Don't let him pull your leg too hard. :nono:

[Sneaky]

well right now he's waiting on a reply from the intel distributor, so hopefully we'll hear from him soon



damn... i hope intel does release the 304 boards

[tdenton1138]

Don't let him pull your leg too hard. :nono:

Just wondering if there's Intel monopolistic power that might be being used here. I kinda doubt it, since what's the point of not releasing the 304s... Unless you have a large supply of 301/2/3's that you need to dump, I suppose.

If that's the case, it would not need to affect the supplies from non-Intel mobo manufacturers...

Either way, I know the boards will ship when the chip comes out - which looks to be July sometime. I'm still hoping they drop them just after AM2. I would. I'm also still hoping AMD has something up their sleeve (although I sorta doubt it at this point). Ah well.

Waiting is always the hardest part.

[Lestat]

no offense to anyone here but wtf why on earth would you buy an intel made motherbaord..

they dont overclock.. they cost more than every other baord with the same featureLESS setup..

i have never owned any intel or OEM intel that overclocked e.v.e.r.

now i been out of the intel loop for a while so educate me

why on earth spend that much on a motherboard that isnt going to overclock like a freak ?
WHY ? lol

[Thorburn]

Lestat,

Your've obviously never used a recent Extreme series board.
I run my Pentium Extreme Edition 955 at 4GHz in an Intel D955XBK board using bios options only and at CeBIT there was a watercooled 955XE in a D975XBX at 4.66GHz on the Intel stand, if you asked nicely they'd pump it up to 5GHz....

The FSB isn't totally granular but using the 800/1066/1333 FSB over-ride and the percentage increase/decrease you can set the FSB to within 2-3MHz easily.

[gone_fishin]

no offense to anyone here but wtf why on earth would you buy an intel made motherbaord..

they dont overclock.. they cost more than every other baord with the same featureLESS setup..

i have never owned any intel or OEM intel that overclocked e.v.e.r.

now i been out of the intel loop for a while so educate me

why on earth spend that much on a motherboard that isnt going to overclock like a freak ?
WHY ? lol

That is the past. Now they have made an extremist board, the bad axe, that overclocks, and is very stable also. It has features that I am sure would shock you because of your past experiences with Intel boards.

[JimboJoe43]

no offense to anyone here but wtf why on earth would you buy an intel made motherbaord..

they dont overclock.. they cost more than every other baord with the same featureLESS setup..

i have never owned any intel or OEM intel that overclocked e.v.e.r.

now i been out of the intel loop for a while so educate me

why on earth spend that much on a motherboard that isnt going to overclock like a freak ?
WHY ? lol

- It is the most stable 975X board around at the moment

- Excellent board design with 3 PCI-E and 2 PCI that allow for CF in various configurations in order to allow usage of PCI slot even if 3D card/fan is oversized

- ability to make custom bios with intel developer toolkit

- motherboard bios is unlocked with an extreme chip

For me the stability of the motherboard is more important than ultra extreme overclocking. :D

And gosh darnit just tell me this ain't pretty...

http://cache-www.intel.com/cd/00/00/24/74/247410_247410.jpg

[greenwar]

- It is the most stable 975X board around at the moment

- Excellent board design with 3 PCI-E and 2 PCI that allow for CF in various configurations in order to allow usage of PCI slot even if 3D card/fan is oversized

- ability to make custom bios with intel developer toolkit

- motherboard bios is unlocked with an extreme chip

For me the stability of the motherboard is more important than ultra extreme overclocking. :D

And gosh darnit just tell me this ain't pretty...

http://cache-www.intel.com/cd/00/00/24/74/247410_247410.jpg


Not to mention that Intel must be using top of the line caps on their boards.

One thing I am confused about. Does this board support vcore and vdimm support for regular non XE cpus? :confused:

[hicookie]

any news coming? maybe wait 2weeks?

[gone_fishin]

Not to mention that Intel must be using top of the line caps on their boards.

One thing I am confused about. Does this board support vcore and vdimm support for regular non XE cpus? :confused:

vdimm is an open option in the bios for non extreme cpu's, for vcore you must change the bios settings with ITK.

[LarsK]

no offense to anyone here but wtf why on earth would you buy an intel made motherbaord..

they dont overclock.. they cost more than every other baord with the same featureLESS setup..

i have never owned any intel or OEM intel that overclocked e.v.e.r.

now i been out of the intel loop for a while so educate me

why on earth spend that much on a motherboard that isnt going to overclock like a freak ?
WHY ? lol

You know, before I got my Intel D975XBX motherboard, I would have said exactly the same :D

Now I've got my 965XE doing 5.6 Ghz @ 350 Mhz fsb with 4x memory blocks, 2x x1900xt(x) in crossfire and some raptor disks. It is much more stable than my P5WD2-E ever was. Granted, it lacks a little in cpu Vcore and memory voltage, but overall I actually prefer the Intel D975XBX over the Asus P5WD2-E, it just feels a lot more robust.

[mine]

so
we are going to see a freely available Winflash " INTEL bad axe overclocking bios " in near future here on XS ? :)

[Lestat]

thanks for the education gentlemen!! i appreciate your input

i knew they had their desktop overclocking thingy but i didnt know they opened up the bios.

so this little baord is pretty good huh ?

better than the Asus 975X ?

i ask as i got my 955 Extreme and by gawd i want a freaking motherbaord but i dont want to waste my money.

i've always known intel to make the most stable but the overclocking and peformance has always left people wanting...

hhmm i will definately keep my eyes on this..


i am going to double check but i swear i saw newegg had these today or maybe mwave.....

its the Intel D975XBXLKR right ? with the blue flaming heatsinks ?

man... what to do what to do!!!!!! aRRRGG!!!! cough cough gag weez

[LarsK]

Yes it is the D975XBXLKR, but you should at least wait for the 0304 revision to get conroe support.

Overclocking is limited to 30% unless you have an XE og ES chip with adjustable multiplier, or you are able to change the default fsb to a higher one. The bios is a rather different layout than say Asus, but once gotten used to it's fine.

Vcore is 1.600V max, Vddr is 2.200V max, so that's a bit low for an enthusiast motherboard. Also fs, nb and ich voltages are not as high as on Asus.

With all 4 memory slots filled, the board boots @ 345 Mhz fsb (max available with a 1066 Mhz fsb chip) just fine with some chipset voltage increases. With Glockgen, I can get to 358 Mhz fsb on stock passive NB cooling. So it's not quite as overclocking friendly as the Asus P5WD2 series, but IMO it is a lot easier to deal with. You may not set record scores with it, but you'll get really solid (and trouble free) everyday performance.

I think this is pretty good for Intel D975XBX + 965XE and a regular Mach II GT cooler:
http://www.hwt.dk/billedbrowser.asp?id=7913&pic=7

[I_G]

Sneaky, you have mail. :)

[\Karting_freak]

any news?

[Burner27]

It's Monday!! What's the latest on these boards, Sneaky?

[musmus]

hi sorry to ask this but i see some people have got Intel Pentium Processor Extreme Edition 965 in this fourm and i want realy to but one for me and i checked most or all the uk websits thay dont have this cpu the only one thay have is the Intel® Pentium® Processor Extreme Edition 955
so how can i get one am in uk


thanks in advans

[Dasgreif]

email sent

[Sneaky]

alright, we have our 40 people, all confirmed - new board reservations will not be accepted unless we have enough people that will bring the total to 50 boards


no update yet - haven't recieved any updates from the channel, so I'll be contacting them within the next couple days to see if they've heard any good news from intel on the shipping of these boards


-Justin

[Lestat]

id be interested but not until they really crank the overclocking abilities of it

im hearing its got a limit and not a real high one

[automagic]

Yeah, if it "only" overclocks 30% it'll still own anything now available.

[cupholder2.0]

Only 30 percent in bios, ofcourse you can still OC using clockgen or other programs in windows.

[Durzel]

Worth remembering that it may well be the only board for a few months to support it when its initially released, and certainly the only board released to support it if you can get your hands on an ES chip.

[Lestat]

the 955 EX the i have is better than an ES.. now i maybe wrong but i was told the 955 EX has a totally unlocked multiplier jsut like the AMD FX series. where as, if intel sticks with their standard Engineering Samples, only have the multiplier unlocked 2 down and 2 up from the stock setting.

now if i was told wrong i'll be pissed..


Tiger direct has the "Axe" in stock and so do several other places along with most places haveing the P5WD2 and -WS and -E Premium in stock..

now as for those two being the only two 975X baords for a few months i highly doubt that.. well there is the Gigabyte 975x.. others will come its just a matter of passing intels R&D and QA.


as for the 30%.. it may go 30% but does it have enough voltage and other controls to allow the 30% increase.
Does it also have the multiplier controls IF the multipliers are unlocked.


right now im sitting on a 955 EX 2gig of PC2 5300 and a 7800 gTX and im getting damned pissed cuz i cant tell which board to get and which board is truly worth the 200+ price tag.

i cant afford to just throw 200+ down on just any board...
know what i mean

[Sneaky]

ok, the way the overclocking on this board works, is that in BIOS, you can select from 533/800/1066/1333 FSB options, and then you can overclock in 1% intervals up to 30% from each of the base FSB options


these boards have basically no limit to overclockin, they theoretically top out at 333*130% which is 432.9mhz FSB... plenty of headroom


CPU voltage up to 1.65v, vdimm up to 2.2v, chipset up to 1.7v IIRC



edit: and any/all engineering samples from intel can switch between their lowest multiplier (usually 14x) and their highest (stock) multiplier, plus anything between

on the extreme editions, both retail and engineering samples, have an unlocked multiplier from 12x to 60x

[s7e9h3n]

edit: and any/all engineering samples from intel can switch between their lowest multiplier (usually 14x) and their highest (stock) multiplier, plus anything between

on the extreme editions, both retail and engineering samples, have an unlocked multiplier from 12x to 60x
Except mobiles ;)

[Sneaky]

no clue how the mobiles work... care to elaborate for us s7e9h3n?

[SluRRR]

Sneaky,

Thanks for the update. I have seen one other report on the web dated 4-28 that rev 304's have not yet hit a particular distributor. Hope your contact gets good news soon.

[s7e9h3n]

no clue how the mobiles work... care to elaborate for us s7e9h3n?
Oh...it's nothing really...I only know this since I'm testing a t2600ES. Otherwise, I'm pretty much a complete Intel noob. I have no access to multipliers above my stock one (13), but have access to lower multis (kinda like AMD's :D ).

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8270/13x2418m6od.jpg

[Sneaky]

oh, its the same, between minimum multiplier (of the processor type) and the maximum

[s7e9h3n]

oh, its the same, between minimum multiplier (of the processor type) and the maximum
Oh, ok :p: I just saw that XE thing....that's crazy :wth:

[mr_knowitall15]

damn, this could be a sweetass board if it were capable of dealing up a little higher voltages. 2.2 VDimm is weak. 2.4 would be better, or maybe OCZ should release a new DDR Booster... Also, 1.65 VCore isnt xtreme, but considering conroe is prolly gonna be like 1.3, like the cedar mills and preslers are at (i think). This could very well be a good board. Nice surprise from intel if it turns out to be so. Might get one myself in a few months, unless asus or (i heard dfi) come out with a real, hold nothing back enthusiest board.

[Lestat]

sneaky

intel ES chips dont have fully unlocked multi's they only have multi's unlocked 2 down and 2 above stock..

so if its stock at 14x you get 12x 13x 14x 15x and 16x

i have had many ES chips and i have yet to ever see one with a totally unlocked multi...

now is it possibly that the boards at the time didnt show the fully unlocked multi sure but not... no one has ever said an eS chip was fully unlocked you the 1st person i have ever heard say that.

now if you meant the 955 XE ES ok sure i can go for that since its fully unlocked already.


ok.. so thanks for the update on the clocking.. i was also concerned about the chipset itself could handle it cuz of voltages and etc...


so how are the voltage's for the board ? droop etc ? do they start drooping once you hit a certain overclock like i am seeing people say about the asus ? rather a certain clock and a certain cpu voltage all of those combined,, does the board hold up to higher clocks ?

[Sneaky]

sneaky

intel ES chips dont have fully unlocked multi's they only have multi's unlocked 2 down and 2 above stock..

so if its stock at 14x you get 12x 13x 14x 15x and 16x

i have had many ES chips and i have yet to ever see one with a totally unlocked multi...

now is it possibly that the boards at the time didnt show the fully unlocked multi sure but not... no one has ever said an eS chip was fully unlocked you the 1st person i have ever heard say that.

now if you meant the 955 XE ES ok sure i can go for that since its fully unlocked already.


ok.. so thanks for the update on the clocking.. i was also concerned about the chipset itself could handle it cuz of voltages and etc...


so how are the voltage's for the board ? droop etc ? do they start drooping once you hit a certain overclock like i am seeing people say about the asus ? rather a certain clock and a certain cpu voltage all of those combined,, does the board hold up to higher clocks ?



no, intel CPU's do not have mutlipliers above the stock multi


for example, with a intel 660, the stock multiplier is 18, and the lowest is 14

you can select from 14, 15, 16, 17, and 18, but nothing higher than stock (except for ones like 840EE/955XE/965XE, which are fully unlocked like AMD's FX lineup)

[Lestat]

no, intel CPU's do not have mutlipliers above the stock multi


for example, with a intel 660, the stock multiplier is 18, and the lowest is 14

you can select from 14, 15, 16, 17, and 18, but nothing higher than stock (except for ones like 840EE/955XE/965XE, which are fully unlocked like AMD's FX lineup)


damn it sneaky your right my bad... wonder wtf i was thinking about... wierd.:slapass: .

thanks for correcting me!!! i prostrate myself before you!

[Sneaky]

lol... what did yo mama tell you about crack? :stick:


crack is whack! :nono:

[adamant415]

Still no word on these boards??? I think that the Abit AW8D-Max will be out this month supporting conroe before these boards ship. Only thing I don't like about the Abit board is it uses a heat pipe to cool the north bridge and I have a lian-li pcv1000b case with an inverted motherboard, doubt it would work well with a motherboard that has a heat pipe since the heat pipe won't be able to work the way it is suppose to.

Anyways hope to hear something soon about getting this Intel board.

[Sneaky]

i refuse to buy anything from abit. ever.


but we're just waiting for word from intel that they're shipping these boards, we WILL be the first ones to recieve this board, as the channel will have them drop shipped directly to me from intel as soon as recieve the go-ahead (and everyone has paid once availability is confirmed)

[NinjaZX6R]

i refuse to buy anything from abit. ever.


but we're just waiting for word from intel that they're shipping these boards, we WILL be the first ones to recieve this board, as the channel will have them drop shipped directly to me from intel as soon as recieve the go-ahead (and everyone has paid once availability is confirmed)

Dang, so it looks like I'm too late. I want one, so if anyone falls through, please inform me. I sent you a PM also sneaky. Looks like I'm SOL :(

-Collin-

[vintage_guitar]

After buying my last mobo from ABIT(biggest mistake I ever made), I will have to agree with you. I will never buy another ABIT product EVER again.

[Ender17]

Dang, so it looks like I'm too late. I want one, so if anyone falls through, please inform me. I sent you a PM also sneaky. Looks like I'm SOL :(

-Collin-
you can have my spot if you want it

[NinjaZX6R]

you can have my spot if you want it

Backing out? If it is going to be soon, I'll gladly take it. I'll send you a PM later today. Have to make sure my bank account is ready for my adventures. Thank you very much.

-Collin-

[Ender17]

Backing out? If it is going to be soon, I'll gladly take it. I'll send you a PM later today. Have to make sure my bank account is ready for my adventures. Thank you very much.

-Collin-
sorry I'm gonna have to retract that offer
I'm sure you can get in on the next order though, just send sneaky an e-mail

[s7e9h3n]

OK...lucky me...I just landed a contact @ Intel :p: . I should have this board within a week or two, but the guy tells me it's not slated for release until the summer. BTW, my board won't be the final release as it's first pcie or pcix slot has been reworked for some reason or another......

[NinjaZX6R]

sorry I'm gonna have to retract that offer
I'm sure you can get in on the next order though, just send sneaky an e-mail

No problem.

[Ender17]

BTW, my board won't be the final release as it's first pcie or pcix slot has been reworked for some reason or another......
I don't understand what you're saying, can you clarify?

[Zorlac]

Okay...now I am confused! Why would Intel's Product Change Notification say that the board would be available to the public 04/16/2006 and then they turn around and decide not to release it until the Summer??? Are you sure that your contact at Intel wasn't talking about maybe a revision 305 or 306, etc.????

Anyways...I would like to get this board too if you decide to order more than 40.

I did notice Newegg is now out of stock, so if they have to place an order with Intel, I would assume they will be getting in revision 304. I would rather have a sealed retail box version, but there is no way Newegg or any other retailer will look on the side of the box for the AA number....don't ask me why though....

[s7e9h3n]

Okay...now I am confused! Why would Intel's Product Change Notification say that the board would be available to the public 04/16/2006 and then they turn around and decide not to release it until the Summer??? Are you sure that your contact at Intel wasn't talking about maybe a revision 305 or 306, etc.????

Anyways...I would like to get this board too if you decide to order more than 40.

I did notice Newegg is now out of stock, so if they have to place an order with Intel, I would assume they will be getting in revision 304. I would rather have a sealed retail box version, but there is no way Newegg or any other retailer will look on the side of the box for the AA number....don't ask me why though....
Hmmm...I dunno...I'll check again...but 2 people I've talked to said the board was delayed....They may be wrong so it's probably better off that everyone just disregard what I say :p:

[Durzel]

Okay...now I am confused! Why would Intel's Product Change Notification say that the board would be available to the public 04/16/2006 and then they turn around and decide not to release it until the Summer??? Are you sure that your contact at Intel wasn't talking about maybe a revision 305 or 306, etc.????

Anyways...I would like to get this board too if you decide to order more than 40.

I did notice Newegg is now out of stock, so if they have to place an order with Intel, I would assume they will be getting in revision 304. I would rather have a sealed retail box version, but there is no way Newegg or any other retailer will look on the side of the box for the AA number....don't ask me why though....I'd be surprised if Intel didn't have massive stocks still of the 302 boards. Theres no reason to assume that any company ordering new boards from Intel will automatically get the new revision.

[Sneaky]

yeah... as far as I know, the board is delayed. until when? i'm really not sure, and no one else i've talked to is sure about the new release date either



but as soon as I find out any other information, it will be int his thread ASAP :fact:

[mine]

yeah... as far as I know, the board is delayed. until when? i'm really not sure, and no one else i've talked to is sure about the new release date either



but as soon as I find out any other information, it will be int his thread ASAP :fact:

Something to discuss..

I tried to contact Intels press department directly .. and found out that this board in its 304 and 305 incarnation .. A.T.M.... is internally handled as .... project.
Maybe my contact was not 100 % , but I hardly doubt it.

And Sorry..
My second consideration would be .. "why buy a board that was designed 2 years ago , if there will be boards , designed from scratch for a new cpu architecture , and available in a few weeks from first class manufactors like Asus, DFI, ABIt.

Third .. I looked for every available international review of this board and though every reviewer liked the stability of this board - in none of these reviews the 975 XBX could hold a candle against the competition in terms of performance.

Sorry to spit into the soup but I find this IS something to discuss ..

[\Karting_freak]

Sneaky, sorry but
unless you can get the board within 3 days, i'm out of the deal
sorry, but this actually took to long
i know its not you who decides
its not your mistake, so no offend to you buddy!

Cheers.

[NinjaZX6R]

I'm still sitting here like a dog at the dinner table waiting for scraps of food! I think this will all work out :)

-Collin-

[\Karting_freak]

Ninja
i was going to get 2 boards.
take 1 of mine
Zorlac
take the 2nd one

[NinjaZX6R]

We'll see how long it takes. I'm pretty impatient.

-Collin-

[Zorlac]

At this point I may just press my luck with ordering from Newegg since they now have the boards in stock again. If I get a 302 or 303, I will just purchase a P965 board when they come out...

Of course if Sneaky finds out some factual info soon though...my mind will change ;)

[Zorlac]

Sorry for two posts in a row, but I just called Intel Pre-Sales.

The rep told me that the PCN that mentioned that the 304 board would be available on 04/16/2006 meant that that is the date Intel would be shipping out the boards to their distributors.

He also said that the board has NOT been delayed.

And finally he said that the 304 board being compatiable with Conroe processors was purely "guess work" at this point (since this is not officially public from Intel).

I also asked how a customer is supposed to be sure they are buying a specific board revision or a specific CPU stepping when E-tailers are not willing to advertise or physically look for the info printed on the side of the retail boxes. He said that unfortunately Intel cannot police/enforce e-tailers to give this info and the only way to be sure is to find a brick and mortar store that you can physically cherry pick the items yourself.

So after the phone call, I ordered the board and a Pentium D 950 from Newegg. If they are the wrong revision/stepping, I will just buy a P965 and a Conroe this Fall. *shrug*

Sorry, but I have been waiting almost 2 months with all the parts for my new PC except for the Motherboard and CPU.....I am sick of waiting =(

[SluRRR]

Mine,

I believe the D975XBX has been available for about 6 months (Dec 2005), and the board's performance is really just a few percentage points slower than the P5WD2-E. The thing that tips the scales in favor of the D975XBX is stability. It really is much more stable than the P5WD2-E. (I have tried both.)

I do think you have a good point concerning alternatives that will be available in the near future. We are now talking about three weeks since the rev 304 boards were supposed to be shipping. There must be some delay at work - else at least one major outlet would have received some by now. With more options becoming available, the decision to stay the coarse here is becoming more difficult. I had hoped we would have these boards in our hot little hands by now.

[NinjaZX6R]

Sorry, but I have been waiting almost 2 months with all the parts for my new PC except for the Motherboard and CPU.....I am sick of waiting =(

We're in the same boat here. I'm about ready to just order a C1 revision 9xx series if I can find one! Heck, dare I consider AM2? Heh.

-Collin-

[s7e9h3n]

-Heck, dare I consider AM2? Heh.

-Collin-
GOGOGOGOGOGOGO ;) :p:

[uclajd]

So after the phone call, I ordered the board and a Pentium D 950 from Newegg. If they are the wrong revision/stepping, I will just buy a P965 and a Conroe this Fall. *shrug*
I'm sure you'll let us know ASAP what revision you got... ;)

[Elisha]

man your cat is creepy.

[NinjaZX6R]

GOGOGOGOGOGOGO ;) :p:

Seriously. Think it'll be as bas as everyone says? Ah, this really isn't the thread to bring that up in. ;)

-Collin-

[uclajd]

The avatar is my cat. The animated one is some random pic I found. :D


man your cat is creepy.

[Elisha]

lol ok.
i was talking about the masturbating cat.

[Zorlac]

*sigh*

I got the rev 302 motherboard and a B1 stepping Pentium D 950....

Figures!

Oh well, at least I will have a badass setup until this fall and then I will buy a conroe motherboard and CPU ;)

[TuKo]

Any news ?

[White]

Sorry for stupid question, but how can i recognize rev 304?