View Full Version : Barton 3000+ in Stock
SpudHo
02-07-2003, 10:18 AM
Barton 3000+ in Stock at http://www.accubyte.com/applications/search/itemdetails.asp?sku=AMDXP30R
If you buy 5 or more only 349.95, almost half price?
1- 4 $644.99
5 + $349.95
:)
xgman
02-07-2003, 10:24 AM
they won't ship till tues.
Svenn
02-07-2003, 10:33 AM
Any 4 or more people wanna buy em together in bulk?
SpudHo
02-07-2003, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by xgman
they won't ship till tues.
What the fock! Guess that's why I like newegg, not so many games.
sysfailur
02-07-2003, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by Svenn
Any 4 or more people wanna buy em together in bulk?
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
THREE MORE PEOPLE!
Svenn
02-07-2003, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by xgman
they won't ship till tues.
Where do you see that?
nikhsub1
02-07-2003, 10:51 AM
Go check again... it is now 6+ for $624.99 talk about games!
Svenn
02-07-2003, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by nikhsub1
Go check again... it is now 6+ for $624.99 talk about games!
Not for me?
nikhsub1
02-07-2003, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Svenn
Not for me?
Wow that's weird! I first went to the site and put 5 CPU's in the cart, it came out to like $3300! Then i went back to the description and it said 6+ $624.99, now is says $349 again... Here this is what I saw... http://www.accubyte.com/applications/search/itemdetails.asp?sku=AMDXP30
SpudHo
02-07-2003, 11:06 AM
Hey you can buy the 2500+ for
1 - 4 $204.99
5 + $349.95
Same with all xp's I think, they need a new web update data person.
http://www.accubyte.com/applications/search/itemdetails.asp?sku=AMDXP25R
But the good news is the Bartons are out!:banana:
k1114
02-07-2003, 11:15 AM
www.resellerratings.com is your freind. do not buy from accubyte.
sysfailur
02-07-2003, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by k1114
www.resellerratings.com is your freind. do not buy from accubyte.
Holy crap... nm my previous post :P
SpudHo
02-07-2003, 11:47 AM
Yeah they suck! Check those shipping charges. I got this link from amdzone
http://www.accubyte.com/applications/search/itemdetails.asp?sku=AMDXP30&sc=pi
must be the real address.
nikhsub1
02-07-2003, 11:56 AM
OK I figured this out. For the OEM CPU's it is $649 for 6+ but they list the BOXED (Retail) CPU's as $349.95 for 5+, makes NO sense to me:rolleyes:
SpudHo
02-07-2003, 12:00 PM
Like k1114 said check the reseller ratings
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1812.html
They're going to get alot of attention, maybe this will cook their goose!
Svenn
02-07-2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by SpudHo
Yeah they suck! Check those shipping charges. I got this link from amdzone
http://www.accubyte.com/applications/search/itemdetails.asp?sku=AMDXP30&sc=pi
must be the real address.
Actually, that's the OEM and the original link is the retail box. I still wouldn't go near them.
cpulloverclock
02-07-2003, 12:21 PM
http://www.x86-secret.com/pics/news/b3000+/b3000.jpg
http://www.x86-secret.com/pics/news/b3000+/cm3000+.jpg
BrainStorm
02-07-2003, 07:00 PM
You guys do realize how crappy this vendor's reseller rating is, don't ya? I wouldn't trust them at all.
k1114
02-07-2003, 10:17 PM
GOOD LORD!
I just looked at their link. They were the worst reseller per rating at the time a while back, but 1.02? HOLY §§§§! That takes some EFFORT!
BTW - accubyte claims that resellerratings is only a tool for other companies to try and trash them. :rolleyes:
bigdawginva
02-08-2003, 12:26 AM
I wouldn't buy from Accubyte with a gun to my head.
thesaucier
02-08-2003, 03:07 PM
What is the first of the barton cores? I thought it was the 2800+
and has anybody heard how they overclock yet?:slobber:
WerewolfX
02-08-2003, 07:19 PM
Lol That rating is so low i E-mailed them and told them they suck :)
xgman
02-08-2003, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by Svenn
Where do you see that?
I called to see if they were ready to ship.
xgman
02-08-2003, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by bigdawginva
I wouldn't buy from Accubyte with a gun to my head. I kind of agree. At least when they show up at NEwegg, they ship, period.
ABIT Marketing
02-09-2003, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by thesaucier
What is the first of the barton cores? I thought it was the 2800+
and has anybody heard how they overclock yet?:slobber:
The multiplier is locked and they are not that great for overclocking. I have tried both the 2800 and 3000+ here on the NF7 and the AT7 MAX2. :(
Firelord-OCHW
02-09-2003, 05:32 AM
Originally posted by ABIT Marketing
The multiplier is locked and they are not that great for overclocking. I have tried both the 2800 and 3000+ here on the NF7 and the AT7 MAX2. :(
Hey welcome back d00d haven't seen you around in a while :):toast:
I think the biggest benefit is going to be the 512KB Cache so it takes it on to an even playing field with the NW P4's ;)
Tedinde
02-09-2003, 05:38 AM
I remember I ordered once from them to the a Asus p4t-533c board, they were the first to have it. I even paid for over night which they did ship it. I ordered over the phone, they said they were in stock. They shipped it over night 8 DAYS LATER!!!!
Wait till newegg, google or whoever has it, in case of any overclocking mishaps. I'd hate to have to return anything to them.
I just read their reseller ratings comments. I'll be having Bad dreams to night. very scary. a "1" in resellers ratings??
charlie
02-09-2003, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by ABIT Marketing
The multiplier is locked and they are not that great for overclocking. I have tried both the 2800 and 3000+ here on the NF7 and the AT7 MAX2. :(
You mean the NF7 or 8RDA will NOT unlock the multiplier?? That will seriously upset some of the people hoping for great things from the Barton!!
C
xgman
02-09-2003, 06:11 PM
Are the L1's closed?
ABIT Marketing
02-09-2003, 06:31 PM
I can't speak for the 8RDA, but the NF7 and the AT7 MAX2 that I have tested will NOT unlock the multiplier. :(
Maybe the 8RDA will, ya never know.. ;P
OPPAINTER
02-09-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by ABIT Marketing
I can't speak for the 8RDA, but the NF7 and the AT7 MAX2 that I have tested will NOT unlock the multiplier. :(
Maybe the 8RDA will, ya never know.. ;P
Try one on the KD7 :)
OPP
mdzcpa
02-09-2003, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Try one on the KD7 :)
OPP
;) :D
OPPAINTER
02-10-2003, 12:01 AM
The L1s are cut http://www.hothardware.com/reviews/images/amd_3kplus/traces_3.htm
A simple connecting of the bridges will unlock them :D
OPP
JCviggen
02-10-2003, 03:06 AM
I wish AMD would make up their goddamn minds on the locking/unlocking of their chips
How often have they changed now? With the Thunderbirds , the high end chips were often unlocked, the rest locked. Palomino's, all locked. Early Tbreds were locked, all Tbred-B's are unlocked. Now the bartons locked again?? sheesh...
Goddamn I hate connecting bridges
JZA80
02-10-2003, 03:14 AM
Originally posted by ABIT Marketing
The multiplier is locked and they are not that great for overclocking. I have tried both the 2800 and 3000+ here on the NF7 and the AT7 MAX2. :(
Hmph, others are showing different results with the NF7 at AMDMB...here is the Link (http://www.amdmb.com/article-display.php?ArticleID=224&PageID=11)
seems as if the multipliers are just like those in Tbred's....
I'm with JC. Man these §§§§§es are locked again. What a pain in the ars :mad:
xgman
02-10-2003, 08:44 AM
I have looked at at least 15 reviews of the 3000+ today, and not one with a decent overclock. I think the best was an unstable 2500mhz. I get better than that on my XP2800. I don't see the point of getting one unless the retail ones clock better.
bowman1964
02-10-2003, 09:56 AM
I think the low overclocking has to do with the locked condition get the chip to run high fsbs.so we will have to cut the trace just like the xp2600/xp2700 chips.
im taking a chance getting one myself.but i have a xp2800 barton on order due friday ups next day air.and i am cutting the trace the very first thing.and i am hoping for good things.;)
but here is a review showing after cutting the trace getting 2.6 out of it on air.that is inline with the current tbreds out there now.but you must exspect a slightly less overclockablitly because of the increase of L2 from 256 to 512.
only problem for me is valentines day this weekend.if my chip arives friday i am going to be iching all weekend untill i my girlfriend leaves to play with it.:(
review barton @2.6 here (http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=324&pid=1207)
SpudHo
02-10-2003, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by bowman1964
but you must exspect a slightly less overclockablitly because of the increase of L2 from 256 to 512
That may not be absolutely true the increase in die size may allow better cooling, wouldn't you think?:)
The 2500+ will probably be the bang for the buck chip at around $200, now where are they?:rolleyes:
JZA80
02-10-2003, 11:46 AM
what are you guys talking about, the bartons are not locked. check out amdmb's review....i linked it above:confused:
mdzcpa
02-10-2003, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by bowman1964
I think the low overclocking has to do with the locked condition get the chip to run high fsbs.so we will have to cut the trace just like the xp2600/xp2700 chips.
But this really applies to the NF2 users. Those with KT400 boards have not seen the same FSB limitations in general with the 333mhz CPUs. I've had no trouble getting 195 to 205 FSB speed out of every XP 2700 that has come through my shop when placed onto a KT400 board.
On another note, I think the overclockability in these first round of reviews looks pretty good. Most of these guys used the stock HSF unit, and many limited it to stock voltage too. Heck, a top end chip that can go another 200mhz to 300mhz with spec voltage and the retail HSF unit is a very good sign.
SpudHo
02-10-2003, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by JZA80
what are you guys talking about, the bartons are not locked. check out amdmb's review....i linked it above:confused:
Amdmb's review never went above 180fsb so he would need to cut the third L12 bridge to change from 166fsb to 133fsb and take it up from there.:)
JZA80
02-10-2003, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by SpudHo
Amdmb's review never went above 180fsb so he would need to cut the third L12 bridge to change from 166fsb to 133fsb and take it up from there.:)
The multipliers are unlocked, here is a quote;
"So, for the overclocking section of this review, I switched to the Abit NF7 motherboard that DID correctly modify the multipliers of the processors. I re-ran the benchmarks that I used here at default speed on the Abit board so as to avoid any discrepancy."
SpudHo
02-10-2003, 12:08 PM
Yeah in his review he said it was unlocked. The barton appears to be just like the 2700+ and for high fsb you have to cut the bridge.
Some bug in the nforce2 chipset?:)
thesaucier
02-10-2003, 01:00 PM
I have read on the Abit forum from an Abit personel that he tested the barton in the NF& board and it did not unlock it.
here:http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3688
xgman
02-10-2003, 01:17 PM
I think it will depend on the board and the bios version. I am hoping the 8rda+ with the 129 bios will unlock it since one of the bios updated items was "support for Barton 3000+". Still for $600, you would expect a better overclock than the sub $400 XP2800, and for that matter 2400-2700's that are already out.
bowman1964
02-10-2003, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by xgman
I think it will depend on the board and the bios version. I am hoping the 8rda+ with the 129 bios will unlock it since one of the bios updated items was "support for Barton 3000+". Still for $600, you would expect a better overclock than the sub $400 XP2800, and for that matter 2400-2700's that are already out.
ok let me clear this up if i can.
the bartons do not look to be mutiplyer locked on the chip itself.
what i am refering to is the setting of the chip to a 133 bus speed instead of the default 166 bus.this is done my cutting the L12.now i have done this for a fact.so i do know about this on a nforce board.the nforce boards will not like to run high fsb without running on a 133 setting.now before everone jumps up and down saying makes no differance........it makes a big differance.i know it looks crazy but somehow the nforce chipset runs a differant timing for a 166bus .more aggressive timing is used i believe.but running 133 bus coding on the xp chip gives a better timing allowing me a higher clock.
and on my 8rda i had to cut the chip also to give me more mutiplyers.i now have 4 up to 20 that work in my bios.
now some have had good luck without cutting the chip and to them i say.....i would like to be that lucky.but for me it didnt work.
and i am going to test this chip 24 hours before cutting it.so everyone will know......................:D
i will be benching on air first ..run to max prime stable then if need be cut the trace.i am running now A XP2600 @2834 218X13.
my xp2600 wouldnt go past 205 with out cutting the trace.
time will tell what these batons will do.
and SpudHo.....yes the xp2500 barton might be the best bang for the buck........... but in my dealing with new chips the lower end chips(xp2500 barton) are usally the cores that didnt make the cut to the high end units (xp2800/xp3000 barton)now after a few months of production i hope to see the xp2500bartons cores up to the same quality.but i am going to take my chances on the higher end chips first.
i hope i am not wasting my money.but wont be the first time,lol;)