LCD or CRT?

[Airtel]

I dont know what to buy - a CRT screen or LCD screen?

I have room for a CRT, but LCD is much nicer - and it is alot more cooler then the hot CRT, and is larger in screen sizes.

I understand that MS wise the LCDs are okay and dont have ghosting problems with low MS's like 8MS and lower.

But what about picture quality? is there really such a huge diffrence between CRT and LCD? like if a standart LCD has a 1:600 contrast - how much does a CRT have?

I need the monitor for gaming btw.

p.s
oh and standart LCDs only support resoultions up to 1280X1024 right? so I cant go up to 1600X1200 ]= (im gonna get a 7900gt)

and if i but a CRT then ill buy a 19" and if LCD then 17"/19" havent decided yet.

[[XC] leviathan18]

use our lcd buyers guide read it and you will find lots of answers for that questions also there are lcd for 400$ in the 20.1 inchs range widescreen and with 1650x1200 i think resolution

[Airtel]

Ive already read the lcds buyers guide, I want your personal opinions.
and I dont have enough money for 20" and widescreens...

and another question - I understand that if an LCD is not on its native resolution then the picture looks worse, in the mean time ill play at 1280X1024 but what about in the future when the games will be heavier and ill have to play at 1024X768?

[softpain]

I prefer a crt cause I play in 1600 x1200 most of the time...

It depend on your video cards and cpu?

If playing in 1280 x 1024 is good enough with aa and aniso or
HDR etc?

CRT are very cheap but very heavy!!!! :(

[Airtel]

gonna have a opteron 148 (gonna oc it) and a geforce 7900gt.

[Delirious]

You can get huge crt's now for cheap, they also come with big power bills and they take up alot of desk space, and wiegh a ton.

If you can live with all those then get one. After buying my first lcd, while its not perfect, i wont be going back to crt.

Lcd's are limited to 1280x1024, that would be the native resolution of a 19" lcd, the bigger the lcd the bigger the native resolution is.

[Airtel]

but if im not on the native resolution - how bad does it look?

[Turok]

With a OCed Opty 148 + a geforce 7900gt, you could easily go over 1280X1024 with 4xAA and 16xAF.
You could also OC a 7900 GT over 7800 GTX 512mb 24/7 stable.
Games at 1600x1200 wont be a problem. Plus a 20" widescreen will be easier to calculate, since 1680x1050 is a bit smaller than 1600x1200 in area.

You should build up some money before the release of the Dell 2007fpw :up:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=92077

[Major_A]

I know I like my 17 inch LCD, and like you said my room is now 5+ degrees cooler after an hour or so of gaming.

[KoolDrew]

For gaming a CRT is still far superior to an LCD. Also, considering you can get large used CRT's for so cheap I would suggest going that route.

[Airtel]

about that dell widescreen - I already spent a ton on the new computer I cant spend so much on the screen...

and how much is the contrast in crts? like in the lcd I might buy its 1:600.
and do you really see a huge difference?

[Deus Excalibur]

The contrast ratio on CRTs is huge, like 40,000:1. You also get zero ghosting.

I own 2 high end 20" viewable CRTs(Sony GDM-5411 and NEC FP2141SB-BK). Compared to my Samsung 19" LCD it is no contest at all.

Go with a CRT.

[Airtel]

yeah I think ill go with a crt, not sure if a 21" like yours, but a nice 19" one.
I thought about getting a viewsonic one, I think the model was G90fb - what do you say about it?

[Turok]

The contrast ratio on CRTs is huge, like 40,000:1. You also get zero ghosting.

I own 2 high end 20" viewable CRTs(Sony GDM-5411 and NEC FP2141SB-BK). Compared to my Samsung 19" LCD it is no contest at all.

Go with a CRT.

You also get visible flickering at low frequencies, visible aftherglow on some CRTs, blurriness, cr@$%er colors, a glossy glass screen, bulkyness, more power consumption, more heat, etc.

If it's mainly for gaming, and you really dont have the money for even a nice 19" LCD, and on top of that you have the super-human ability to notice ghosting on a pure 8ms responsetime, then go for a nice ViewSonic, NEC,or Sony CRT :rolleyes:

[Airtel]

mm I have the money to go with a 17" or 19" LCD depends how much I want to spend (cause im already spending alot on the pc itself), and not a super lcd with 1:1000 contrast, with something like 1:600, 8MS and 320cd/m.

but what bothers me with lcd's its that I cant get past the 1280X1024 and with my system I could go 1600X1200 with some games, and in the future like in UT07 that ill may have to go down 1024X768 - its not the lcd's native resolution and it'll look bad.

[Airtel]

And what do you say about this screen: Samsung 997mb?
and whos better it or the viewsonic g90fb?

[biohead]

You also get visible flickering at low frequencies, visible aftherglow on some CRTs, blurriness, cr@$%er colors, a glossy glass screen, bulkyness, more power consumption, more heat, etc.

If it's mainly for gaming, and you really dont have the money for even a nice 19" LCD, and on top of that you have the super-human ability to notice ghosting on a pure 8ms responsetime, then go for a nice ViewSonic, NEC,or Sony CRT :rolleyes:
I notice little bit ghosting on a 4ms lcd, in quake especially.

[viper650]

personally, i would go with the lcd. i like not having a HUGE crt taking up half of my desk space.

[Deus Excalibur]

You also get visible flickering at low frequencies, visible aftherglow on some CRTs, blurriness, cr@$%er colors, a glossy glass screen, bulkyness, more power consumption, more heat, etc.

If it's mainly for gaming, and you really dont have the money for even a nice 19" LCD, and on top of that you have the super-human ability to notice ghosting on a pure 8ms responsetime, then go for a nice ViewSonic, NEC,or Sony CRT :rolleyes:

I run 1600x1200 @ 100hz on my NEC, no problem there. 1600x1200 @ 85hz on the Sony is 100% fine as well. Very sharp too. Not to mention I can choose ANY resolution I want at or below 2048x1536 and not have that ugly interpolation.

Poor colors? Are you joking me? That is one of a CRTs strongest points. CRTs are UNMATCHED in color accuracy. Oh you mean they don't have unnaturally vibrant wacky bright colors, excuse me.

Power consumption is 120w max on the NEC 2141, leaving two 60w bulbs on doesn't bother me. As for heat, the cabinet is only warm to the touch after being on several hours. I'd rather have less desk space than worse image quality, I'm a videophile.

It seems to me like you have never owned a good CRT in your life.

[Turok]

I run 1600x1200 @ 100hz on my NEC, no problem there. 1600x1200 @ 85hz on the Sony is 100% fine as well. Very sharp too. Not to mention I can choose ANY resolution I want at or below 2048x1536 and not have that ugly interpolation.

Poor colors? Are you joking me? That is one of a CRTs strongest points. CRTs are UNMATCHED in color accuracy. Oh you mean they don't have unnaturally vibrant wacky bright colors, excuse me.

Power consumption is 120w max on the NEC 2141, leaving two 60w bulbs on doesn't bother me. As for heat, the cabinet is only warm to the touch after being on several hours. I'd rather have less desk space than worse image quality, I'm a videophile.

It seems to me like you have never owned a good CRT in your life.

Im using the NEC FE991sb and my other PC has the NEC FE992sb
Im getting tired of CRTs. They give me headaches afther long hours.
I prefer to have my room light on than off, because the brightness from this screen just burns my eyes off. Using my room light balances the intensity a bit. When I get a LCD, Ill finally be able to use my PC in the dark without burning my eyes.
Ive never owned a LCD before, but Ive seen several good LCDs and they look a lot better than a CRT and are much better on my eyes.

Im aware that my FE991sb is a bad monitor with text. Dont know if it's the same with other CRTs.
When I read text, white backgrounds are too bright and the text is verry blurry over the recommended resolution (1280x1024)
I used to play my games at 1600x1200, but I got tired of the blurry screen. My CRT is also caped at 75Hz at 1600x1200 (like most 19" CRTs), so I notice flickering and tearing when I play FPS games

About the color precision... there is a reason why professional image designers prefer high quality VA panel LCDs over CRTs, and it's because of the color acuracy and the precision per pixel.
CRTs are more blurry. Even if you think your CRT is verry sharp, when you put it side-by-side with a quality LCD, the difference is verry noticeable.
You see colors you've never seen before on a CRT.
If you saw a "unnaturally vibrant wacky bright colors" LCD, then it might of been a cr@$%y poorly calibrated LCD.
LCDs, as well as CRTs, dont come perfect out-of-the-box you know. Like a CRT, you have to calibrate them, and some companies have "wackier" colors than others at stock settings. A high quality well calibrated LCD is far superior to any CRT.

[Steensen]

Turok If you need to have the background light on, then it's because you haven't adjustet your CRT correctly (too bright)
I'll bet, that the reason why your eyes don't burn with the LCD, is because the white isn't white, but in between beige and light gray, whee as the CRT is strait on white.
Normally you shouldn't be gaming in a dark room, since it's bad fore your vision.

Airtel You can get LCD's for 1600*1200, but they costs around 1-2k$ :(
That's the advantage with the CRT, for that cind of money, you voult get a 30-32" CRT, capable of 2560*1920 resolution.
I'm also Pro CRT, cause you can get them capable of high resolution (1600*1200 or more) for a fair price (400$ or less, a lot of the 19" 1600*1200 goes for ~200-250$ in Denmark, where we got high tax on goods (25%)).
Actualy, I'm goint to buy a CRT my self in a couple a weeks.

[JaCk0]

I always prefer CRT for games and video/photo editing. A GOOD 19-20" LCD cost +500€ (fast VA or IPS panel).

[neoman]

Im happy with my 17'' LG L1730P 12ms / 550:1 contrast , only thing is that its too small :P Id like to have 21'' to watch movies. Besides i mostly play games with my LCD and it havent had any negative point to my gameplay , it feels a bit different but no ghosting even with 12ms

[Zenjirou]

You can get 21" 1600x1200 16ms LCDs for $500-700. The viewsonic and Samsung ones I am talking about. (samsung 214t I think)

Prices are comming down.

Yet my old Samsung 19" with 2048x1536 at 75Hz no interpolation suites me fine for $199.

[amd4me]

Just go lcd.
It's more appealing to the eye and they have a smaller foor print.
You will hear arguements either way.
Both have pro's and cons, decide whats best for you.

[[XC] Lead Head]

I perfer CRTs and Turok you must have some very crappy CRT, everythig is wicked sharp on my CRT and my CRT has way richer colors then ANY other LCD i have seen. The low contrast ratios on LCDs also annoy me alot, I want my blacks black damnit!

[Jarrod1937]

I perfer CRTs and Turok you must have some very crappy CRT, everythig is wicked sharp on my CRT and my CRT has way richer colors then ANY other LCD i have seen. The low contrast ratios on LCDs also annoy me alot, I want my blacks black damnit!
i prefer crt's because of the fact that you can get a 19 inch viewable crt that goes up to 1600x 1200 for only $138 , which is the monitor i have now. however, i've seen top of the line crt's and they still don't compare to the color rishness of some semi-good lcd monitors. again though, its all preference.