DFI Expert & 1gb kit Gskill PC4400LE

[Nebulous]

Tried evry trick in the book and I cannot for the life of me get this ram to run it's rated speed (DDR550 @ 2.5-3-3-7) on this board.

Ram was tested in a DFI SLi-DR up to 320 @ 1:1 with 2.8v @ 2.5-3-3-7, but it fails to run 275 @ 1:1 with it's factory tested timmings on the Expert? :confused:

Am i missing/overlooked something here? Plz don't tell me I spent my money needlessly on this ram for this board :(

[GSKILL TECH]

need to be expert to use expert board......
just kidding

expert board is very very hard to use for TCCD. it is design for BH-5 UTT mobo. if you still haveing your SLI-DR i recommend you change back to that

[Nebulous]

need to be expert to use expert board......
just kidding

expert board is very very hard to use for TCCD. it is design for BH-5 UTT mobo. if you still haveing your SLI-DR i recommend you change back to that


Oh nooooooo :upset: I don't own the SLI-DR, belongs to my friend who tested the ram for me.

So I'm stuck eh? Only 2 options for me:

A) Get rid of my board
or
B) Get rid of the ram eh?

:brick: I can never get a lucky break with AMD. I've went thru 4 boards, countless sets of ram, and several cpu's. None of which made me happy with my purchases. :mad:

[GSKILL TECH]

i am sorry to hear this :(

if you are not going to use BH-5 UTT chip i recommend you get rid of mobo

[Nebulous]

Wonderful :rolleyes:



Thx for the recommendations.

[bito]

My Gskill LE seems to be working fine on my Expert.....no problems at all at 10 x 280 1:1 CL2.5-3-7-3 1T....all else is auto/default in bios for now.
Vddr set to 2.79v. Orange slots. My ram is 0437 week.

Edit: Tested for you at 300HTT 1:1 at 9 x 300 with my Opty 170....CL2.5-4-7-3 1T all else auto/def @ 2.74vddr.
All timings as per windwithme DFI Venus thread here.....or as stated above ^
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=87719&highlight=dfi+venus

Give it a try again.

[Mn3monic]

My Gskill FX TCCD seems also working fine on my expert too.. now running at 300*9 (opty 144) 1:1 CL2.5-4-3-5 vdimm 2.72...

[GSKILL TECH]

yes but some of the expert board can't hit 300 stable and i have no idea why

[Mn3monic]

maybe i just got lucky :) is there any fix or bios update that will fix the problems? I just read at dfi-street that there's someone who actually flash venus bios on the expert board.. but dunno whether it'll fix the probs..

[Nebulous]

Well I swapped boards yet again... Got a DFI Ultra-D, but the Gskill PC4400LE still refuses to run it's rated speed/timmings :mad:

Tried several bioses, timmings and the best it can do is 200 (DDR400) @ 2-2-2-5 with 2.6v. If i try and get to it's rated oc speed of 275 (DDR550) @ 2.5-3-3-7 it will blue screens instantly. 260 @ 2.5-3-3-7 is the max. @ 261 and above I get the dreaded bsod. I'm forced to run 3-4-4-8 to achieve the rated 275.

Swapped out cpu's and still no dice :( Can someone please shed some light on this? I'm about to go postal !! :soap:

[Nebulous]

Anybody? :confused:

[bachus_anonym]

Did you buy this LE second-hand or it was you that run this RAM @ 320MHz on SLi-DR?
Have you tried each stick separately, by any chance?

EDIT: Scratch that... Gee. I can't focus today :D It was your friend... So, is he absolutely positive that it was 320MHz on a div200? Was that Windows-stable or Memtest-stable?

[njkid32]

Also have you messed with the drive strengths?

[Nanometer]

It will work fine. You just need to spend more time fine tunning your RAM to make it run stable and at speed. Play around with timmings and drive strengths.

[Nebulous]

Thanx for your responses guyz :)

bachus_anonym : Ram was run in a SLI-DR board with 704 bios @ 320 with 2.5-3-3--7 with 2.8v. Memtest and windows stable. Also he was using a 4400 dual core chip.


njkid32 : Again if i knew which drive strengths to use I would be using them.


Nanometer: Run fine eh? Hmmm, more time? You mean more than the 2 1/2 weeks i've already spent?

If someone would suggest the timmings/setting/voltages I should try that would be great. I have them written down and compare my notes to the ones you suggest and see what i'm over looking. Oh btw on a side note: I've already tried the settings posted in these 2 threads:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=57317

and

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=89492

and nothing seems to be working. I'm losing my patiience and losing my mind. :(

[Nebulous]

*Update*

Not the greatest in the game, but i finally got this junkbox running. Not happy with the fact I can't for the life of me run this ram's rated speed, but i got it this far and against my better judgement I'm going to accept it :rolleyes:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1328115&postcount=317


Best I can do :cool: 301x9 = 2707MHz, 1.52v

704-2BTA Bios

301x9 = 2707MHz, 1.52vcore / 2.5-4-4-7 @ 2.8vdimm

DRAM Freq : 200 (1/1)
CPC: Enable
TCL: 2.5
TRCD: 4
TRAS: 7
TRP : 4
TRC :12
TRFC:15
TRRD: 3
TWR : 3
TWTR: 2
TRWT:3
TREF: 3120
DRAM Bank Interleave: Enable

DQS Control : AUTO
DQS Value : 0

DRAM Drive: 4
DRAM Data: 3
MAX Async : 8ns
DRAM Response : FAST
Read Preamble : 5ns
Idle Cycle Limit: 256
Dynamic Counter : Disable
R/W: 16x
Bypass Max : 4X
32 Byte Gran. : Disable

[GSKILL TECH]

*Update*

Not the greatest in the game, but i finally got this junkbox running. Not happy with the fact I can't for the life of me run this ram's rated speed, but i got it this far and against my better judgement I'm going to accept it :rolleyes:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1328115&postcount=317


Best I can do :cool: 301x9 = 2707MHz, 1.52v

704-2BTA Bios

301x9 = 2707MHz, 1.52vcore / 2.5-4-4-7 @ 2.8vdimm

DRAM Freq : 200 (1/1)
CPC: Enable
TCL: 2.5
TRCD: 4
TRAS: 7
TRP : 4
TRC :12
TRFC:15
TRRD: 3
TWR : 3
TWTR: 2
TRWT:3
TREF: 3120
DRAM Bank Interleave: Enable

DQS Control : AUTO
DQS Value : 0

DRAM Drive: 4
DRAM Data: 3
MAX Async : 8ns
DRAM Response : FAST
Read Preamble : 5ns
Idle Cycle Limit: 256
Dynamic Counter : Disable
R/W: 16x
Bypass Max : 4X
32 Byte Gran. : Disable
are you runing it at SLi-DR or ultra-d mobo now?

TRC :12 -> try 7;8
TRFC:15 -> try 13;14
TRRD: 3 ->2
TWR : 3 ->2
TWTR: 2 ->1
TRWT:3 ->2
TREF: 3120
DRAM Bank Interleave: Enable

Bypass Max : 4X -> 7x
Dynamic Counter : Disable -> enable

try 275 to see it works or not
if possible to ask your frined come to your house to help you?

[Nebulous]

Using the Ultra D now. I'll try those settings you suggested and post back.

*update*

Evry setting you suggested I use @ 275 just bsod evry time :( In order to be able to boot into windows I had to reset them all back to my original settings.

Me is starting to think it wasn't the board after all, it's this ram. I got a funny feeling I got rid of the Expert mobo for nothing. Swapped mobos and still have the same problem :shakes:

[dinos22]

bachus_anonym : Ram was run in a SLI-DR board with 704 bios @ 320 with 2.5-3-3--7 with 2.8v. Memtest and windows stable. Also he was using a 4400 dual core chip.
why do i not believe this.............................................. ......

actually what does he mean by windows stable....prime/SuperPI or just booting into windows

[GSKILL TECH]

Using the Ultra D now. I'll try those settings you suggested and post back.

*update*

Evry setting you suggested I use @ 275 just bsod evry time :( In order to be able to boot into windows I had to reset them all back to my original settings.

Any other ideas?
this is with your ultra-d mobo right?

humm, my setting maybe is too tired for you
how long have you use this itme?

[Nebulous]

this is with your ultra-d mobo right?

humm, my setting maybe is too tired for you
how long have you use this itme?


Yes, DFI Ultra D. I just got this ram about a month ago, but never used it until I got the Expert mobo.




why do i not believe this.............................................. ......

actually what does he mean by windows stable....prime/SuperPI or just booting into windows


That's exactly what I meant: windows stable and evrything stable. Not 1 single problem. He played games, ran office and evrything else you can use the pc for. I don't know what else to tell you other than that's why i bought it. I can understand conflicts and issues with boards and ram, but this is rediculous. My only machine and i can't believe this.

[dinos22]

That's exactly what I meant: windows stable and evrything stable. Not 1 single problem. He played games, ran office and evrything else you can use the pc for. I don't know what else to tell you other than that's why i bought it. I can understand conflicts and issues with boards and ram, but this is rediculous. My only machine and i can't believe this.well if you test it on Ultra-D and it doesn't get even close to it the guy lied to you

i think he lied to you from what i've seen so far....................it's VERY hard getting such speeds with a single core CPU.....IN FACT a world records is within reach..........and i think on Dual core 4400 is next to impossible dude....that's my take on this......i don't know:(

[Nebulous]

Hard to believe my friend would lie to me just to make a few $$. I've known him for quite a while and he's always been true blue with me from the start.

[dinos22]

Hard to believe my friend would lie to me just to make a few $$. I've known him for quite a while and he's always been true blue with me from the start.
this is very easy then if he is your friend.....take the sticks over to his place and try it out

he either ran the RAM in divider not realising, or the sticks may have developed a fault or they absolutely hate your CPU/mobo or something else

don't get me wrong i'm just going off the knowledge i've acquired here and here is proof http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53290

there are only 3xpeople worldwide that did the speeds your friend claims he did ......you be the judge.....i think he most likely ran them in divider and didn't realise he did

[Nebulous]

Wonderful, just wonderful. I just got off the phone with him. He swore on his kids he ran 275 @ 2.5-3-3-7 2.8v and oc'ed the ram to the highest stable clock of 320 with 3-4-4-7 and 2.8v :rolleyes:

None the less I can't get this ram to run 275 unless I loosen the timmings to 3-4-4-7 :mad:

I'm just gonna throw in the towel on this and leave it alone. I'm pretty angry right now and I don't know if i should set fire to this dam cursed pc or drive to my so-called friend's house and beat him senseless with a baseball bat :mad:

[dinos22]

Wonderful, just wonderful. I just got off the phone with him. He swore on his kids he ran 275 @ 2.5-3-3-7 2.8v and oc'ed the ram to the highest stable clock of 320 with 3-4-4-7 and 2.8v :rolleyes:

None the less I can't get this ram to run 275 unless I loosen the timmings to 3-4-4-7 :mad:

I'm just gonna throw in the towel on this and leave it alone. I'm pretty angry right now and I don't know if i should set fire to this dam cursed pc or drive to my so-called friend's house and beat him senseless with a baseball bat :mad:
sorry to hear that mate...........it just didn't make sense to me

if they don't run at specified timings i'm sure you can RMA them....i've done it with two different sets myself

[Nebulous]

Problem is this is my only pc :(

[dinos22]

Problem is this is my only pc :(
well take it back to him if he is your friend he should have no issues

[Nebulous]

Yeah, i'll see what I can do. Right now I'm just gonna relax. Thanx for the suggestions.

[Nebulous]

Ok, here's the whole schpiel:

I drove to my friend's house with the ram and asked him to verify the clocks he mentioned. His setup is as follows:

DFI Sli-Dr
4400 dual core
OCZ Powerstream 520w
wd sata 120gb
XFX 7800GTX

We installed the ram in orange slots and booted up.

Positive tests/speeds/timmings:

200 (DDR400) 2-2-2-5 * 2.7v memtest/prime/Toast all pass
275 (DDR550) 2.5-3-3-7 * 2.8v Nothing passed. memtest/prime/Toast all fail
275 (DDR550) 3-3-3-7 * 2.8v memtest/prime/Toast all pass :confused:

Now here's where it gets interesting: Once i pass the 280 barrier all tests will fail unless I loosen the timmings like so;

285 (DDR570) 3-3-3-7 *2.8v Alll tests fail
285 (DDR570) 3-4-4-7 *28v All tests pass
300 (DDR600) 3-4-4-7 *2.8v All tests pass
310 (DDR620) 3-4-4-7 *2.8v All tests pass


Did'nt go any higher. He apologized about what timmings/settings he said this ram ran in his setup before selling it to me. This still does not excuse the fact that it does NOT run it's rated speed of DDR550 as labelled on the package, thus is why I bought it in the first place. It will however run DDR550 when I change the CAS from 2.5 to 3 which has me baffled. Another thing is in order to get it run @ 285 and above i would need to loosen more timmings, otherwise it would either hang at the "Verifying DMI Pool DATA" or it would bsod instantly.:bsod:

[Nebulous]

Funny how the package is labelled DDR550 @ 2.5-3-3-7 But fails to run at that speed. @ 277 the ram timmings change to 3-4-4-8 :confused: In CpuZ the SPD timmings @ 277 are 3-6-6-11?? What is that about?? :eek:
Here's a screenshot:

[GSKILL TECH]

Funny how the package is labelled DDR550 @ 2.5-3-3-7 But fails to run at that speed. @ 277 the ram timmings change to 3-4-4-8 :confused: In CpuZ the SPD timmings @ 277 are 3-6-6-11?? What is that about?? :eek:
Here's a screenshot:
spd just a reference for motherboard auto option. if you can not do 275 2.5-3-3-5, you are welcome to RMA it.

[Nebulous]

Fantastic, thank you! :) How do I go about RMA-ing?