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G H Z
02-19-2006, 12:06 AM
Decided I'd give a try at making my own container. Still searching for CU so started out on a 2 3/8 ALU chunk. This will have a stepped inner wall when complete with 8MM base thickness.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/Rosspot2.jpg
n00b 0f l337
02-19-2006, 12:14 AM
More and more solids, now who can mass produce?
ghz you doing the Machining ya self
G H Z
02-19-2006, 12:29 AM
Sure am, this will be Ross's new toy to torture his 930 with.
Sure am, this will be Ross's new toy to torture his 930 with.
hehe ross is doing very well just the thing for that cpu
more pics:D
Waus-mod
02-19-2006, 04:37 AM
Wooo :P you turned my picture in alu :P haha great work!
http://wausmod.computerjunkie.nl/pics/Site/CIMG0272.jpg
afireinside
02-19-2006, 12:02 PM
More and more solids, now who can mass produce?
Jason has mass produced. You have one...
Looks good GHZ, the walls look a bit thick ;) How thick will they be when finished?
n00b 0f l337
02-19-2006, 12:44 PM
No, Jasons are limited run. Mass produced means like, 1000+
afireinside
02-19-2006, 01:16 PM
Why would anyone do that? 1000 dry ice units would never be sold. There aren't even 1000 hardcore benchers, forget 1000 who would want to try dry ice or ln2 cooling their computers. Jason makes enough for the people who really want them.
n00b 0f l337
02-19-2006, 01:19 PM
I'm not going to get into an arguement, but you could say there arent 1000 people who are hardcore benchers and need phase change, but OCZ is doing it.
but people are going to buy OCZs cooler to look badass for the most part. I guarantee well over 50% of people who buy them will have no idea how to utilize them...and when that kind of stupidity comes to dry ice and LN2 it can become just plain dangerous
afireinside
02-19-2006, 03:47 PM
I'm not going to get into an arguement, but you could say there arent 1000 people who are hardcore benchers and need phase change, but OCZ is doing it.
You can't compare them. Every overclocker wants better temps. OCZ phase is cheap, looks "cool", is easy to use, and can be run 24/7. DICE/ln2 can't be run 24/7 so people looked down on it for that reason.
G H Z
02-19-2006, 04:55 PM
Wooo :P you turned my picture in alu :P haha great work!
Nice, I wish I had that Copper stock to play with. I'm kinda stuck atm because my boring bar is too short :p
afi, wall thickness will be .100 This is a small pot so trying to maximize mass & performance with this diameter tube.
ilkkahy
02-20-2006, 12:03 AM
More and more solids, now who can mass produce?
Anybody with few thousand bucks on their account and ability to draw very simple cylinderical machinery drawing.
Then you take the drawing to machinist and your part of the work is done. Doesnt require very much ability i think.
n00b 0f l337
02-20-2006, 08:15 AM
It takes quite a bit, experimenting for best wall sizes and base thickness's.
ilkkahy
02-20-2006, 09:53 AM
If you wanted to be sure about good measures you could first do container with lets say 7mm walls and 15mm bottom and then that reduce bottom 2mm by step by step until load temps start raising. After that you could take 1mm from the walls and see if it has negative effect on performance. My guess is that wall thickness needs to be quite thick before it reduces inner surface area so much that it starts to have negative effect on temps. It would be task matter of a half day if the lathe dice and proper testing setup is right there.
I can do this some day since i have the needed equipment and will share all the information too, but not now (perhaps in april).
But anyway you really have to be way off with base/wall thickness to get poor performance on solid copper container.
Cpt Twitchy
02-20-2006, 03:55 PM
G H Z this company onlinemetals.com is based out of seattle and can be picked up, I do not know if they have good prices compared to the other metal yards around seattle though. Your Aluminium pit is looking good so far.
OT Do you work at a machine/fab shop or know a friend who works at one?
G H Z
02-20-2006, 04:31 PM
I just found Online metals today, $174 for a 1 foot section of 3" CU :eek:
Wonder how tall 3" pots are and if a 6" version would work. That would be about $80 in CU alone for two pots. This lathe is my dad's, he has almost every tool known to man ;)
Cpt Twitchy
02-20-2006, 07:10 PM
I just found Online metals today, $174 for a 1 foot section of 3" CU :eek:
Wonder how tall 3" pots are and if a 6" version would work. That would be about $80 in CU alone for two pots. This lathe is my dad's, he has almost every tool known to man ;)
I wish my Dad had tools like that. My dad always buys the cheap stuff and regrets it later but our hand tools are nice. Keep up the good work and YGPM :toast:
G H Z
02-27-2006, 11:39 PM
Grabbed some more stuff to play with today. I'm going to test an unbrazed two piece design with the tube on the right.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/Container-Stock.jpg
Waus-mod
02-28-2006, 12:54 AM
Looks great :D want to see it finished :d
boostedevo
02-28-2006, 02:57 PM
Not as badly as I do :D
k|ngp|n
03-01-2006, 05:18 AM
Looking good G!!
Congratz to you for doing your own :clap: and I'm really looking forward to seeing it bolted to your motherboard and kicking ass.
Harshal
03-01-2006, 07:15 AM
Yes.... things are moving at fast rate then it seems. Nice work G H Z. About 1000+ container production well I think if you make people aware about your product then you will get some who are ready to freez there way to some kinda record. Hell, with ever growing population and lil bit of money I think India will have 10-15 atleast outta those 1000+. But I think doing things by yourself means a lot more and thats why people keep doing things that are better.
G H Z
03-03-2006, 01:00 AM
Mission accomplished ;)
The inside is a little rough but for a 10" boring bar and the wrong inserts :rolleyes: it's pretty good I think. The lowest inner diameter is sized to the fit the IHS on Cedarmill so the container has the highest mass and thinnest base directly over the IHS only.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/LNZ3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/LNZ1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/LNZ2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/LNZ4.jpg
boostedevo
03-03-2006, 01:04 AM
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
I like it :D Fire it up....er, ice it up!!
G H Z
03-03-2006, 01:06 AM
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
I like it :D Fire it up....er, ice it up!!
:D
You'll have to do that yourself ;)
Looking good G!!
Congratz to you for doing your own :clap: and I'm really looking forward to seeing it bolted to your motherboard and kicking ass.
Thanks Kingpin, you and MM we're the inspiration for this :toast:
This one is shipping out tomorrow so I won't be testing it, but when I get a copper version finished I'll see what it can do to a 4800.
Waus-mod
03-03-2006, 01:09 AM
Looks really great there! now to the results :D nice job!
boostedevo
03-03-2006, 01:19 AM
I guess you're anxious to get to work on your copper units, eh? :D I have so much dang work to do, I don't think I'll even have a chance to mess with it before the weekend :( I am going to work over this weekend though and see if I can't get it all done early to take Friday off totally, pick up some ice and go to town.
So what do you think the chances of a 661 that will suicide 5.8GHz @ 1.62Vc on a SS being able to crack off a 7GHz screenie on dice/1.70Vc? What I am really dying for is some 6GHz benches on the 930 :toast:
Nice job GHZ!!!
Is there some kind of a "bullet" in the middle of the bottom?
Nice work, should be very nice to use:D :toast:
Eldonko
03-03-2006, 09:16 AM
Mission accomplished ;)
The inside is a little rough but for a 10" boring bar and the wrong inserts :rolleyes: it's pretty good I think. The lowest inner diameter is sized to the fit the IHS on Cedarmill so the container has the highest mass and thinnest base directly over the IHS only.Looks great bro :woot:
boostedevo
03-11-2006, 01:03 PM
Just thought I post a follow-up on Icetube that I got from GHZ...
First order was business was to lap the machining marks off the base.
As received:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/boostedevo/dice/LNZ2.jpg
After ~30 min. 600->1500->2000 grits:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/boostedevo/dice/lap1.jpg
Yeah, but it is flat? You bet!
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/boostedevo/dice/lap2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/boostedevo/dice/lap3.jpg
I messed around with it last night...first time with DI. System off temps were -62C. Idle temps were about -56C to -58C @ 5.6-5.8GHz on my 661. That idle swing seemed mostly dependent on Vc...or maybe my lack of experience with DI :) For SPi 1M, temps rose 4-5C and for the LONG 32M they only rose 6-7C. I think that's pretty good for a tube this size, but again maybe my lack of experience with DI is playing a role there and the delta could be even less. It took me a good long while to realize in the first place that I was using way to much DI.
In any event, DI is definitely fun and I plan on getting some more "experience" tonight :D Thanks go out to GHZ for an excellent job!!