Radiator or Heater core?

[Mond]

Should i get a heatercore or radiator for my watercooled heatpipe system( http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1154135#post1154135 )?
i know that heatercore performs better but car radiators are HUGE!! (64cm by 24cm)which one should i buy?i only hav a budget of 70us max. How big should the radiator or heatercore be?too big is just overkill.

Thanks

[Mr. Tinker]

As the owner of a heatercore system, I'd like to suggest that you use a radiator designed for computer watercooling, particularly Thermochill brand.

[Mond]

i only hav a budget of 70us...

[aMp]

Order a Black Ice from Danger Den. They're still running a huge discount -- BIP3 for $45, BIX2 for $58.

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

Order a Black Ice from Danger Den. They're still running a huge discount -- BIP3 for $45, BIX2 for $58.
wow, that bip3 for 45 is a huge deal. id defiently get it over a bix2.

[Jochenp]

As the owner of a heatercore system, I'd like to suggest that you use a radiator designed for computer watercooling, particularly Thermochill brand.
So radiators are worth the money over heatercores?
The thing is, I can get my heatercore for free from a friend of my dads who runs a garage, so that would be sweet, but if radiators are a lot better, i'll go for that.

[Calderbrae]

One of the big differences between made for computer radiators and the heatercore is having to put it in your system.

With the rad you will not have to do much work, whereas with the heatercore you will have to add the barbs, make a shroud, etc etc etc.

All in all, a good heatercore will out perform a good radiator.

[Jochenp]

Mm, I see, and just in case that I won't get my heatercore for free and buy one of those singleheatercore's from dangerden for 55€, would they outperform a 55€ BlackIce (don't know what model anymore)

[mindwreck]

definitely, the heatcores are great for their price and willoutperform radiator their price

[Jochenp]

Then why do people buy the radiators for 80€ while dangerden sells watercool-ready heatcores for 55€? There must be something I'm overlooking, no?

[aMp]

Ease of use, aesthetics. Silence -- cores tend to be pretty dense, so you need some moderately high airflow, which means noise. Size is another factor -- I've got a 2-199 core, which I thought would be roughly the same size as a BIX2, but it's way bigger. (Speaking of which, that's the DD core. Where do you intend to mount yours? The 2-199 is wider than a drivebay.)

And the newer PA series from Thermochill looks to beat them all out on every level. The exception, of course, being price -- they're expensive as hell, but you get what you pay for.

[Jochenp]

I intend to put all watercooling devices out of my case, so that I have less chance of frying it all in case of a leak.
Maybe I'll just put my pc out of its case on a little table, no case at all:)

OT: Is a pump of 500-600 litres per hour enough for watercooling (an aquarium-pump:))

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

depends on the head pressure of that pump and the wattage dump.

for radiators, best performance per:
unit cost: heatercore
unit area: thermochill PA

[moonlightcheese]

the ease of mounting DEFINITELY outweighs the extra cost you incurr when you buy a purpose built radiator and purpose built radiators are well worth the cost (especially the PA series thermochill radiators). performance is the same between heatercore and other radiators with the PA series easily beating the competition.

as for that pump... it's possible it has enough head pressure to bust the hoses right off your blocks! but then it might not lololololol.

recommend: PA series thermochill radiator

[Jochenp]

Then what pressure should a pump have?Could you give me specifications so I can ask my dad

[Mond]

I personally have a pump that pumps 2700l/h and it has a head pressure of 4m.It only costs 26us

[moonlightcheese]

VERY nice pump Mond. perfect for WC.

@Jochen: most DC pumps that are made for PC cooling have anywhere from 2.5m to 5m of head pressure and anywhere from 500 to 4000l/h (maximum, no pressure). check the head pressure on that pump and make sure you have at least 2m of head pressure and you are set (with 2m of head you can expect similar performance to a good DC pump made for watercooling). anything more than 5.5m of head might be too much.

also check the heat dump on that pump and make sure it is less than 25W. the most heat dump on current pumps afaik is the laing D5 at 20W but 25W is still tolerable if the pump has a lot of flow and pressure. post the specs on the pump if you can.

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

more than 5.5m head isn't too much, its just almost always associated with high heat dump. 25-30 watts max heat dump for a pump to still be good.

[Jochenp]

My dad is away at the moment, if he get's back I'll ask him the specs.
But after reading a bit about pumps, it seems 500-600l/h is not enough, so I'll end up buying a new one anyway, and I'll use your specs then.