View Full Version : DaGoochMeister, some info on that KryoG2?
I saw this in your signature:
KryoTech SuperG2|Athlon XP 2600+ @ 2750Mhz|
Can you give me some info on temperatures etc. - I'm thinking of getting one used for me..... is it worth it?
Thanxs ;)
P.S. Happy Birthday :toast:
DaGooch
01-17-2003, 06:32 PM
TodB:
I would say it is as good as the Prometeia concerning temperatures and such due to having both units to play with. The only problem is that you will be stuck with the Socket A Kryo Chamber on the KryoTech with no upgrade path to the Hammer series or to change platforms to Intel and such. Basically, the unit needs a custom Kryo chamber milled from scratch if you plan to upgrade.
I got no problem with that - I'll always be on AMD, so not a problem ;)
Any info on temperatures, the refrigerator type? :)
DaGooch
01-17-2003, 07:10 PM
The compressor is an out of production unit made by a subsidiary of Electrolux and is stamped as a R22 unit but when I had mine recharged earlier this year, I was told that the unit had r134a in it and replaced with r134a. Temperatures on the evap surface is around -35C at full load at 2750MHz therefore similar to the Prometeia. I live in somewhat a lower ambient temp in Southern California about a mile from the beach so my temperatures are a bit better than most.
Thanxs a lot man :)
I'll see what I can do about getting one, it seems quite good for the money.... I had one offer for 200 Euros, which is quite cheap comparing to the 450/500 E for Prometeia/Vapo
DaGooch
01-19-2003, 11:19 PM
For 200 Euros, I would definitely buy one! :)
Yep, I'm still thinking it over..... the G2 I need to get from Denmark ( I live in Bulgaria ), and now I got round here one Vapochill classic for testing out :)
They're both 200 Euros, and I think that the G2 should be better, but who knows :)
Decisions, decisions :rolleyes:
Raptor
01-21-2003, 05:42 AM
TodB, you've got PM! ;)
Originally posted by Raptor
TodB, you've got PM! ;)
Raptor, you've got PM! ;)
marlboro
01-23-2003, 05:03 AM
@TodB
Are you sure not to receive a Kryotech SuperG 1000 (SlotA)
Where do you find a SuperG2? Any webadress (onlineshop/forum or anything else)
THX
Marlboro
Originally posted by marlboro
@TodB
Are you sure not to receive a Kryotech SuperG 1000 (SlotA)
Where do you find a SuperG2? Any webadress (onlineshop/forum or anything else)
THX
Marlboro
It G2, I'm sure :)
there's no webadress, it's from a friend of mine that has it...... or should I say has it lying around and not using it :D
marlboro
01-23-2003, 01:16 PM
Perhaps you decide not using it too - send it to me :p
Anyone else know where to find a SuperG2?
Marlboro
Originally posted by marlboro
Perhaps you decide not using it too - send it to me :p
Anyone else know where to find a SuperG2?
Marlboro
Well it's still with his original owner and If I decide to keep the Vapo there's Raptor before you - he'll get it, he wish to have it first ;)
c7775
01-31-2003, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by TodB
Yep, I'm still thinking it over..... the G2 I need to get from Denmark ( I live in Bulgaria ), and now I got round here one Vapochill classic for testing out :)
They're both 200 Euros, and I think that the G2 should be better, but who knows :)
Decisions, decisions :rolleyes:
did YOU buy the Persy Vapochill sample mate!!! if so you should have given me a shout cause i know the guys that work there and they would have lowered the price to 150E .... :eek:
Originally posted by Voodoo|Minion
did YOU buy the Persy Vapochill sample mate!!! if so you should have given me a shout cause i know the guys that work there and they would have lowered the price to 150E .... :eek:
No problem, I still haven't paid it, we'll talk with Eugeny next week..... but I'm not thinking to give 200E away for it - It was in a really bad shape, I've practically repaired it on full, there was condensation problem and so on, and so on....
But you can lower the price to 100E :D :D :D :D
Right now I'm torturing one 3.06 P4, but my PS is weak - 300W FSP Group, but still can handle high loads....
Raptor
01-31-2003, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by TodB
Right now I'm torturing one 3.06 P4, but my PS is weak - 300W FSP Group, but still can handle high loads....
how much are you getting from the 3060 M8?
Best Regards
Raptor
ps: 100€ would be fine! :P
c7775
01-31-2003, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by TodB
No problem, I still haven't paid it, we'll talk with Eugeny next week..... but I'm not thinking to give 200E away for it - It was in a really bad shape, I've practically repaired it on full, there was condensation problem and so on, and so on....
But you can lower the price to 100E :D :D :D :D
Right now I'm torturing one 3.06 P4, but my PS is weak - 300W FSP Group, but still can handle high loads....
yep i know it is knackered mate ! i saw it at Byte expo (or whatever it was called) and it needed a lot of patching up to get it to work again. But at the end of the day they did manage to run that little 1.8A at 3.08Ghz :)
Yep, It WAS really bad..... but not anymore :D I've been messing with it a whole week long and did manage to get it to work almost perfect ;)
Raptor, for now I can offer this, later will try with better PSU ( It's 100% Stable at that speed@Vcore :) )
It's not something great, but hey - it's still undervolted :D
Raptor
01-31-2003, 04:47 PM
That terrible!
That's no good for you!
Sell Sell Sell! ;)
Oh sure, It's terrible :D :D :D
Now this is more interesting, just a little 0.08V more:
Raptor
01-31-2003, 05:50 PM
/me thinks i'll never see that vapochill from Bulgaria... :P
See, 2ºC, that's to much for you! Sell Sell! :D
Originally posted by Raptor
/me thinks i'll never see that vapochill from Bulgaria... :P
See, 2ºC, that's to much for you! Sell Sell! :D
Nope, you won't see it :D ;)
BUT ( as wee spoke not long ago ) I'll contact my friend in Denmark and If the Kryo is still there I'll give ya the contacts for you to get the Kryo at least ;)
Raptor
02-01-2003, 03:13 AM
Great M8!
I Can't hardly wait! :)
Originally posted by Raptor
Great M8!
I Can't hardly wait! :)
Hey dude, you've got PM ;)
Gigamoller
02-02-2003, 11:44 AM
where can u buy such a kryotech thing in europe?
€200 is definately not much :)
ZaVkE
09-07-2003, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by DaGooch
The compressor is an out of production unit made by a subsidiary of Electrolux and is stamped as a R22 unit but when I had mine recharged earlier this year, I was told that the unit had r134a in it and replaced with r134a. Temperatures on the evap surface is around -35C at full load at 2750MHz therefore similar to the Prometeia. I live in somewhat a lower ambient temp in Southern California about a mile from the beach so my temperatures are a bit better than most.
It was charged with R134a and you replaced it with the same? Sure that sentence is correct?
Anyhow, can you perhaps give the type of the compressor? And Any info in max heat (watt) displacement and so on would be very helpfull too.
How about the sound, startup time, ... ?
Might get my hands on one so ...
DaGooch
09-07-2003, 09:03 PM
Forgot about this thread and the technician who first worked on the unit was quite a bit wrong or did not want to charge with the appropriate refrigerant on my unit. The unit will be shortly refurbished with updated components and the proper refrigerant done by a much more qualified technician to be followed by an article on the front page. The compressor was originally made by Americold and the only information stamped on the unit is "H22" of which I have been able to see and have been told is that it is a low temperature R404A unit. Details of the compressor will be noted in the article when more accurate information can be found on the unit. The sound is much louder than any of the Prometeia units and the startup time is around 2 minutes from a warm start.
ZaVkE
09-07-2003, 09:13 PM
Ok thnx
change fans to 2 big radial one's (with a shroud if needed) should fix the sound problem and give a much higher flow :)
Pretty sure i'm gonna buy it if the price is right :cool:
DaGooch
09-07-2003, 09:25 PM
Actually, it is not the sound of the fans that is loud. The compressors are much larger than the ones on the Prometeia and make hella more noise while the unit is running. :)
ZaVkE
09-07-2003, 09:31 PM
Is it the compressor itself or the vibrating that makes the noise?
Hmmm, larger compressor :)
With the proper adjustments ... :D
DaGooch
09-07-2003, 10:19 PM
Both, compressor itself and much more vibration especially during startup. :)
ZaVkE
09-07-2003, 10:27 PM
I think that the problem is that you're using the wrong gas, especially the wrong amount.
I've heard ppl with overfilled prom's (refilled after a gas-change or leak) also complain about more noise and vibrations.
If i get mine i'll post my findings here (plz do the same if yours is refurbished sooner then i get mine).
With R404 (and the right amount) you will probably get much better temps also :toast:
Gary Lloyd
09-07-2003, 10:59 PM
If the bottom of the compressor is cold, you have too much refrigerant in the system, regardless of what type of refrigerant is in it. This can severely damage the compressor.
If this is the case, remove a small amount, wait at least 15 minutes and check it, remove a little more, etc. If you remove too much, the suction line will start to warm up. The suction line should be frosted, the bottom of the compressor should be warm.
ZaVkE
09-07-2003, 11:11 PM
And when he is freakingly hot?
Cause i have a Kryotech Renegade lying around and that compressor runs really hot.
When i just let it be (nothing attached) it cools to 17°C (normal operating temp for the unit, but the compressor is very hot to the touch. When i give it a bit of load (50W) i can barely touch it and the temps go rise till 40°C. Instead of staying around 20° (like they should).
Too less fluid inside?
Charles Wirth
09-08-2003, 11:43 AM
THe compressor I have gooch is a R404 unit low RPM/Quiet compressor. That was a Kryotech unit right?
It gets down to -41c without load and -21c with load and makeshift P4 bracket contact.
Raptor
09-08-2003, 12:00 PM
With my Kryotech, the Evaporator Temp never gets Higher than -44ºC... the idle temperature is -49ºC, but i think the reading value is limited by the "chill control unit".
Charles Wirth
09-08-2003, 12:03 PM
I am using a digital temp meter strapped to the head with insulation. Might be able to get a better reading if it was bolted down tighter.
Raptor
09-08-2003, 12:35 PM
Guess i'll try a digital temp also to test it! ;)
Gary Lloyd
09-08-2003, 06:50 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but as I understand it, kryotech has different models, and the renegade is just one step up from a water cooler.
Raptor
09-09-2003, 01:58 AM
Mine is a Kryotech SuperG with R404a...
DaGooch
09-09-2003, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by FUGGER
THe compressor I have gooch is a R404 unit low RPM/Quiet compressor. That was a Kryotech unit right?
It gets down to -41c without load and -21c with load and makeshift P4 bracket contact.
Yes, the unit you have there was the special evaluation only and not for resale 220V version. :)
DaGooch
09-09-2003, 03:18 AM
Originally posted by Raptor
Mine is a Kryotech SuperG with R404a...
Yes, from all the information that I have been able to compile in the last several months, the SuperG Slot 1 version was the first version with the R404A compressor.
DaGooch
09-09-2003, 03:28 AM
There was also the "Cool Athlon" Slot A series with most of the units at 800MHz that used a R134A compressor and when modified makes a pretty decent GPU direct die cooler for benching. Here is a picture of the unit that I found at Tom's Hardware:
DaGooch
09-09-2003, 03:29 AM
Another picture from Tom's Hardware:
Raptor
09-09-2003, 03:35 AM
But mine is a Socket A version!
DaGooch
09-09-2003, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by Raptor
But mine is a Socket A version!
I believe all Socket A versions were officially SuperG2 and and the Slot A 1Ghz versions were SuperG units. Your unit might be a very early Socket A version as both of my Socket A units are labeled SuperG2. They may have had several 220V SuperG units that were fitted with a Socket A evaporator? Seems production was pitifully low with a barebones price of $2,250.00 USD. There is a sticker on the back with a do not remove warning of which I presume is the serial number which says: SG2-18G-1-0008 and the other as SG2-18G-1-0009.
Raptor
09-09-2003, 05:10 AM
My unit was a special unit Kryotech had in their Lab... I bought from the Chief Engenier of Kryotech Labs that's is my friend, but now he works for Chip-con.
and BTW, mine doesn't have any sticker!
Charles Wirth
09-09-2003, 07:39 AM
The G2 evap head is a perfect 1 inch in diameter. It fits in tight areas like on the chipset.
I have installed a bigger evap for use on a P4.
ZaVkE
09-09-2003, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by FUGGER
The G2 evap head is a perfect 1 inch in diameter. It fits in tight areas like on the chipset.
I have installed a bigger evap for use on a P4.
Why don't you chip of the heatspeader and apply the normal evap head?
Would give lower temps i think
Charles Wirth
09-10-2003, 08:11 AM
The evap head is still the same, except it is now fitted with the proper mounting for P4/Athlon64 with condensation proofing and wing nuts. Its a pretty good unit capable of 4.3Ghz