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Just got this board to replace my DFI RDX200 ( in RMA)
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/biostar/6100/biostar.jpg
Looks real nice , a bit DFI touch
I must say this is an amazing mobo :toast:
lots of memory options : the usual + TRC, TRFC , TWTR , MAL , RP
voltage range from 2,6 - 2,9vdimm , vcore upto 1,7v , built-in memtest :eek:
All this in micro -ATX form !! (and cheap as well 90€)
Currently running my 3200 Winnie at 255x10 on this board.
pcworks
12-10-2005, 02:59 AM
I love my Tforce 6100, incredibly overclockable and very stable. Got mine for £51 inc vat in UK, could not justify paying more for a DFI ultra. It is very tweakable and just runs and runs and runs.....
Not too impressed with my Gecube Radeon x1600pro though, I have got one of the first on sale in the uk, the 128bit memory interface definately holds it back.
Rob H
Rob,
What hardware monitoring utility you use ? (to check voltages and temps)
The Biostar programs on the CD are useless imo, I installed 3 of those programs an none of them is even functioning :rolleyes:
I'm using the ITE smartguardian (yes the NForce4 version :D )
I did some changes in the config file of Smartguardian , now it works .
pcworks
12-10-2005, 03:57 AM
I used to use the monitor on the biostar cd-rom. I believe there is an updated version you can download from the biostar.com.tw website.
I un-installed the old version because it used to stop my pc booting down. Not using a monitor at the moment but I check temps occasionally in sandra 2005 and I hitting 43C fully loaded with prime 95 running.
Using a 450watt Jeantech psu with 36amps on the 2 12v lines and it is rock solid.
Rob H
Here's a pic of the modded SG. It ain't perfect , but it's good enough for me.
Only CPU temp is shown , but all voltages are visible.
http://users.telenet.be/taye/pics/Biostar%206100/Biostar.jpg
fans are also monitored : the first is CPU fan , the other is the intake fan.
Does this board have integrated graphics? How much 3dmarks does it get?
Does this board have integrated graphics? How much 3dmarks does it get?
It's really low in scores, sub 1k in '05 IIRC.
I've been eyeballing the 6100/6150's for awhile... I've got a P3 800eb that's hoggin up a decent little MATX case that needs to go in favor of my spare winchester that's homeless:(
Some scores with the Biostar integrated graphics :
~ 6000 in 3d01
~ 1500 in 3d03
~ 12000 Aquamark (takes ages te complete!! )
Didn't bother with 3D05
Not really good enough to play games , but the best integrated graphics I have seen.
I have one of these Biostar TForce 6100 boards waiting for an Opteron 165 that's supposed to be here Tuesday. I read through one of the dedicated TForce threads over at [H] and this board does seem to be pretty darn good. I'm hoping for 2.6-2.7GHz with ~1.50v.
If all goes well... I'll be ordering another for an Opteron 170 setup later in the week. ;)
Just wanted to say that this motherboard can not be beat for farmers... or "budget" minded people.
My 165 is running 298x9(2.67GHz)@1.54v full-load 24/7. This motherboard has been a pleasure overclocking. The only "odd" thing is that the Vcore isn't labelled correctly in the latest BIOS. At the 1.7v setting I'm getting ~1.55v.
Just be sure to upgrade to the latest BIOS and you should get great results.
TWO THUMBS UP FOR under $80 delivered!!! :toast:
jackie
12-14-2005, 02:53 PM
not a farmer but i tell you this board is the real deal. i have 3000+ winchester that i could not OC it past 265X9 with my soltek board no matter how much Vcore i threw at it but this little gem will do 295X9 @stock stable all other hardware being the same. in fact it is @ less than stock, the board under volts.
i am not a gamer but the on board video is also very good and capable of running most recent games at high res. i can play farcry at very high with no hicups or drag.
Damien
12-14-2005, 02:58 PM
Yup I planned on getting one for my aspire Q-pack. This will be replacing a DFI Ultra-D, so it'll be kinda weird, but I'm hoping to at least get the same overclock when in such a small form factor.
Also, idk if anyone has it or not, but what cooler/s can you use in the QPack? I think I read a review saying the zalman 7500 or whatever works but it's a tight fit. Maybe stock is the way to go?
Optymystic
12-14-2005, 04:56 PM
One of these on the way for a 165. Picked the 6100-939 over the Asrock dual SATA, even though I have an AGP card that I would have liked to re-use. Will keep this thread updated as well.
high5
12-21-2005, 02:16 PM
anyone running a dual core in this mobo?
how about RAM OCing, any of you tried TCCD?
chew*
12-21-2005, 04:38 PM
I have the same board but mine says geforce 6100:confused: if there are other versions of it well they're website doesn't list it. Anyway it runs great so far. Southbridge could do with some better cooling though.
Newegg lists both however and from comparing pics they are identical boards with identical layouts however the t force has better quality caps and omits a couple caps and one fan header.
high5
12-22-2005, 12:03 AM
they are different products series.
one is general (products->motherboard on biostar site) and other is for OCers (products->t-series on biostar site).
http://www.biostar.com.tw/products/mainboard/board.php?name=GeForce%206100-M9
http://www.biostar.com.tw/t-series/products/socket%20939/tforce6100-939/product_details.php
MaxxxRacer
12-22-2005, 12:06 AM
I saw this board on newegg and wondered about its quality.
Now my hopes were confirmed, and this board is deffinetly a winner. congrats to Biostar for such an awesome budget board.
It really does well for a inexpensive A64 build that is for a non-tech user becuase it doesnt use fans. I know this sounds silly, but I have built a few systems for people and the NB fan always dies on them and I always end up having to go replace it. I vowed from that point that any system i build for a non tech person would not have a NB/SB fan, and this biostar fits the bill nicely.
as Rodny Reynolds would say " this is a kickass motherboard" :D
chew*
12-22-2005, 05:36 AM
they are different products series.
one is general (products->motherboard on biostar site) and other is for OCers (products->t-series on biostar site).
http://www.biostar.com.tw/products/mainboard/board.php?name=GeForce%206100-M9
http://www.biostar.com.tw/t-series/products/socket%20939/tforce6100-939/product_details.php
yep i saw that. curiosity makes me wonder is the t-force bios flashable to the g-force. looks like the higher quality caps are to ensure X2 reliabilty. As far as the cheaper board goes though its highly stable.
arctic-k20
12-22-2005, 06:04 AM
ya they are different series but what are the differences? i compared the two and the only difference i can come up with is the pcb colour and the dfi style sockets aka neon etc...
as far as chipsets and options they are identicle - the T-force one is $10 more here in Canada - for different colour pcb??
**edit**
the difference must just be in the bios - i checked the bios' for each board and they do have different revisions - but the hardware is the same so its just different options available in the bios to make these boards distinct....
they are different products series.
one is general (products->motherboard on biostar site) and other is for OCers (products->t-series on biostar site).
http://www.biostar.com.tw/products/mainboard/board.php?name=GeForce%206100-M9
http://www.biostar.com.tw/t-series/products/socket%20939/tforce6100-939/product_details.php
chew*
12-22-2005, 06:32 AM
ya they are different series but what are the differences? i compared the two and the only difference i can come up with is the pcb colour and the dfi style sockets aka neon etc...
as far as chipsets and options they are identicle - the T-force one is $10 more here in Canada - for different colour pcb??
**edit**
the difference must just be in the bios - i checked the bios' for each board and they do have different revisions - but the hardware is the same so its just different options available in the bios to make these boards distinct....
that and you'll notice that they use better quality caps on the t-force board although the cap arrangement looks to be identical. to be more specific note the aluminum colred caps on the t-force next to cpu socket versus the cheaper ones on the g-force. This was a new build for a buddy of mine the other day. I'll see if he's brave enough to let me flash the other bios to it and see if it works.
high5
12-22-2005, 07:04 AM
T-series boards also have that handy onboard power & reset switches like DFI.
I'll see if he's brave enough to let me flash the other bios to it and see if it works.
that would be nice thing to try. :)
chew*
12-22-2005, 08:31 AM
T-series boards also have that handy onboard power & reset switches like DFI.
that would be nice thing to try. :)
Ahh those are a nice touch
Whats the highest HTT you guys get on this board?
Cpt Twitchy
12-22-2005, 02:02 PM
I agree with Maxxracer I can easily think of 3 chipset fans my bro has replaced on family pc's.
I also agree with styrg. I wanna know how it oc's.
I saw this on newegg a week or two back and wondered how it would oc. It appears to be a good board but no one has oc'ed it yet. The major turn ons for me was that it has IGP so graphics can be upgraded later if you don't have the money during upgrade and choose to stay with agp for that matter.
MaxxxRacer
12-22-2005, 04:24 PM
the SATA2 is also a nice feature. It is a much more futureproof board than many others. When building a PC for someone who is going to use it for a very long period of time, getting the most updated technology is essential so that a few years down the road they arnt so far behind. Usually though, this is only attainable with very expensive motherboards. This one on the other hand, has all the bells and whistles, including IGP (which for who i would use this board for) and is at an excelent price point. Really hard to think of a better buy than this motherboard.
anyone running a dual core in this mobo?
how about RAM OCing, any of you tried TCCD?
There's a 3,3vdimm jumper on this board :toast: Just found out by reading the manual :stick: With this jumper enabled , vdimm=3,3v ;)
I'm currently testing some BH-5 memory , 245Mhz 2-2-2-5 is the highest so far.
My TCCD is only good for cas2 , 220 2-2-2-5 /240 Mhz 2-3-3-6 is very stable, like on my DFI NF4 board.
This board is a good cpu clocker , I'm running my Venice at 2808Mhz with a mediocre cpu cooler ! Quite extreme for such a small board.
I need some cheap board and if it had 3.3V vdimm it would be good.
Does the general board have 3.3V?
high5
12-31-2005, 12:43 AM
i seriously doubt it.
it wouldn't make much sense for Biostar to include 'advanced' options on their budget board. but anyway, 3.3V line Vdimm mod is very easy to do.
fareastgq
12-31-2005, 12:59 AM
guys, the 6100 T series is THEE matx board to get, period. If your not going matx though I would opt for somthing else starting with the ultra-d and up. tested 3 matx boards and the biostasr one is the best of the 3. Here's a bit of info for u guys who haven't seen it.
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=78500
PkG.1337
12-31-2005, 01:05 AM
how does the 6100 stack up against the FX5200
galadar
12-31-2005, 01:08 AM
MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH better
yep, compared manuals and only tforce has 3.3V jumper.
I think I'll go with this board for a budget PC. Should be better than Asrock 939 dual, don't you think so? At least this board has vcore up to 1.7V and vdimm = PSU 3.3rail line (using jumper) without any mods at all.
high5
12-31-2005, 04:05 AM
yes, i would also go for Tforce board.
OC-friendly, nice features... uses quality components. :)
Cpt Twitchy
12-31-2005, 12:53 PM
This board is just getting better and better. I like it.
[XC] DragonOrta
12-31-2005, 04:36 PM
can someone compare highest OC on a CPU that they have used in a DFI and this one, just to see how high it can go compared to the DFI.
sabrewolf732
01-01-2006, 11:48 AM
best htt I can get is 285 :stick: 290 = no go, might be my venice crapping out though who knows :stick: my pci slot colors are also diff, they're green with the pci-e as orange :stick:
I will get this board tomorrow (already ordered) + Venice 3000+. Will let you know how good it is :D
sabrewolf732
01-04-2006, 11:58 AM
I will get this board tomorrow (already ordered) + Venice 3000+. Will let you know how good it is :D
lmk if you can break 285, and what bios
KenRico
01-05-2006, 01:20 AM
Have this board in a Aspire X-Qpack with Thermaltake Bigwater SE with cheapo cs2 ram.
With budget OC configurtation had a 146 CABGE 0536 at 10x260 with a lot of voltage. So FX55 speed...
Currently running 165 with much better steppings 9*269 with just a small voltage nudge. So 4800+ speed with no herculean effort.
Been pretty stable (primed both cores for a few hours at 9*269). All of the above was with 166 mem divider. Anything above 270 just unwinded, all settings made no difference..so gave up and just enjoyed my Borged Cube.
I like the board! If my SOURCE gets his OEM FX60 sample will grab another board and give it a real test.
best htt I can get is 285 :stick: 290 = no go, might be my venice crapping out though who knows :stick: my pci slot colors are also diff, they're green with the pci-e as orange :stick:
Is it a GeForce (red PCB) or TForce (blue PCB)? Check the chip heatsinks, dunno what kind of crap they put under those, might limit your OC a lot.
Strange color combination you've got on the slot, doesn't match any of the two.
http://www.biostar.com.tw/products/mainboard/socket_939/geforce%206100-m9/pic.jpg http://www.biostar.com.tw/t-series/products/images/Accessies1102_09.gif
None of them have 4xSATA, even though there's space for it?
I wanna see more max HTT results! :toast:
The 6100 mobos from Epox and ASRock looks interesting too, I hope people here at XS get them soon. OCworkbench got 320 MHz from the ASRock mobo.
sabrewolf732
01-05-2006, 10:56 AM
t series board. :D Ill try to take pics
t series board. :D Ill try to take pics
Good!:toast: Have you checked the chip heatsinks?
sabrewolf732
01-05-2006, 12:34 PM
Good!:toast: Have you checked the chip heatsinks?
If they're making good contact? Ill check this weekend
Newbie_User
01-06-2006, 05:44 AM
Impressive results for a new chipset....
Unfortunately, i can't order Biostar branded products.....
So there are many boards with various chipsets :
6100/Nforce 410
6100/Nforce 430
6150/Nforce 430
It depends on the PCB, right?? ;)
300 HTT is good enough for me, especially with Venice....
Does this chipset supports X2 or opty's (14x/16x)??
Thanks
:)
Newbie_User
01-06-2006, 10:08 AM
Asus A8N-VM CSM (6150)
Asus A8N-VM (6100)
Gigabyte GA-K8N51PVMT-9 (6150)
Gigabyte GA-K8N51GMF-9 (6100)
MSI K8NGM2-L (6100)
will she does?
also have boards with ULI :) chipset :
Abit UL8
or
Radeon Xpress 200 chipset :
Asus A8R-MVP
Which chipset seems to rock.....??
I have a test :
http://www.insanetek.com/review.php?id=222&page=1
will find for Xpress 200
Initial results with the Tforce-939 board.
9x300 is no problem (HTT multi 3x). But I do have problems >305 no matter what cpu multi. I haven't checked all bios options however.
Also you can get vdimm = PSU 3.3 rail - 0.1V with a jumper. Tested up to 3.6V DMM so far with some old school BH5 :)
Bios is dated 12/20 @ the biostar site but it shows 11/02 using software and @ post screen. Anyone else has this?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41926&stc=1&d=1136580490
fareastgq
01-06-2006, 02:02 PM
Asus A8N-VM CSM (6150)
Asus A8N-VM (6100)
Gigabyte GA-K8N51PVMT-9 (6150)
Gigabyte GA-K8N51GMF-9 (6100)
MSI K8NGM2-L (6100)
will she does?
also have boards with ULI :) chipset :
Abit UL8
or
Radeon Xpress 200 chipset :
Asus A8R-MVP
Which chipset seems to rock.....??
I have a test :
http://www.insanetek.com/review.php?id=222&page=1
will find for Xpress 200
Your looking for voltage options, not brand name. None of those I bet will match up with the T-series board.
Kiwi,
I have bios 10/20/2005 as shown in CPUz. This is still the original bios.
Wonder if you have more tweaking options in your newer bios .
Nice clocks man :toast:
DragonOrta ,
i'm running my Venice at 2808Mhz (234x12) @ 1.536vcore aircooled. On the Dfi NF4 this cpu did 2880@1.536v albeit watercooled
I would say this board overclocks as good as my DFi NF4 Ultra.
Great performance too ! see my superPi 32M time
LoN3R
01-07-2006, 05:12 PM
board is loooking pretty good . i might splurge on a SFF setup if i cant get a multi proc setup goin
danmoody
04-08-2006, 11:10 PM
i have gskill 4400le its rated for 2.5 3 3 7 1t @ 277fsb. do you think i will be able to reach thoose speeds at 1:1
uwackme
04-09-2006, 06:08 AM
I like the MSI version better... 6150 and DVI connector.
All these, Biostar, Foxconn, MSI all need a real modded bios turning on all the A64 memory settings, etc.
Also, we need Vdimm mod's to allow use of BH5 and VX chips, 2.85V just dont cut it.
oicurafox2000
04-09-2006, 06:18 AM
Also, we need Vdimm mod's to allow use of BH5 and VX chips, 2.85V just dont cut it.
It allows up to 3.2V....More if you have a PSU that has adjustable pots. :fact: