BD7II the new Intel Mobo King ???

[OPPAINTER]

Tomorrow night the new king of 3D will be OPPAINTER acompanyed buy an Abit BD7II and a NW2.26 Intel chip with DDR memory running at 250. Stay tune to the 3D charts, heh heh.
I'm talking 16000 default. I can all most bet on it :D

OPP

[JBELL]

VERY impressive bro!!!!

but you still got nothing on my p100!!!

[DaGooch]

I know you can do it! Make Rambus look like Rambust! :p

[OPPAINTER]

I know I can too, I figuered it out today. My basic Mushkin 3000 is running at 230 as we speek, so all I need to do is run at 190 fsb and I'll run the memory at 250 and Wamo, 300 more points then I have already. Hopefully Frys will let me borrow a stick of Corsair 3200 Tomorrow :D

OPP

[DaGooch]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I know I can too, I figuered it out today. My basic Mushkin 3000 is running at 230 as we speek, so all I need to do is run at 190 fsb and I'll run the memory at 250 and Wamo, 300 more points then I have already. Hopefully Frys will let me borrow a stick of Corsair 3200 Tomorrow :D

OPP

Borrow? Hmmm, five finger discount? JK :p

[OPPAINTER]

Heres some DDR at 232,

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by DaGoochMeister


Borrow? Hmmm, five finger discount? JK :p

Na, just use it for a day or 2 and bring it back.

OPP

[JBELL]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Heres some DDR at 232,


damn!

[JAWS]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Heres some DDR at 232,

Honestly (I know I'm sleepy) but, those are some of the highest memory scores I've ever seen! That's just plain awesome!

[OPPAINTER]

I figuer running it at 250 those numbers will be close to 4000.

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[Hardass]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Heres some DDR at 232,

Those are just plain KICK ASS numbers.

[DaGooch]

OMG 1,000MB/s above Rambust! Gotta love it! GJ! :D

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by DaGoochMeister
OMG 1,000MB/s above Rambust! Gotta love it! GJ! :D

Is it?? I have no clue what Rambust does as a mem bench.

OPP

[DaGooch]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER


Is it?? I have no clue what Rambust does as a mem bench.

OPP

2450MB/s in stock form. :D

[OPPAINTER]

I see, your looking at that little chart thing:D That was probably at 100 fsb.

OPP

[DaGooch]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I see, your looking at that little chart thing:D That was probably at 100 fsb.

OPP

Jeah Jeah :D

[OPPAINTER]

So Gooch,

Does Xtreme Tek Werkz want some advertising in my Top 3D run?? I'll have you guys as a sponcer for the 2.26 chip for the cash I owe.

Woops, I have turn into a punkin now, I'll talk to you later, keep your eye on the 3D charts Tomorrow.

See Ya,
OPP:D

[stompah]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I see, your looking at that little chart thing:D That was probably at 100 fsb.

OPP But still i doubt even with RAMBUS at 150MHz youcannot touch your benchie :)

[OPPAINTER]

Well I got some Corsair 3200 and doesn't work worth a Crap, it can't even do 230 like the Mushkin 3000. Not going to pass Macci anytime soon, damm, I need some good memory.

OPP

[JAWS]

OPP are you running your system with aggressive memory timings? Mushkin sounding pretty good right now! :)

[OPPAINTER]

Well no new memory today guys. I did do some overclocking though. Just 10 points away from the great Macci, dam I'm good:D

Jaws, those setting at 230 are as low as you can get 2.5, 363, but at 230 they are very powerful.

This was done at 191:

[JBELL]

how does samsung fair up against it?

[Silversink]

I told you all Mushkin kicks @SS!!!


Nobody listens to a damn word i say because Im a Intel user......glad Im not alone now.....Thank GOD you made it OPPAINTER.

PS OPP these blokes are just jealous and they secretly wish they could tinker with a Northwood...But they won't admit it.

[JAWS]

Originally posted by Silversink
I told you all Mushkin kicks @SS!!!



I learned my lesson, "you get what you pay for” Next time, I'll get the expensive Mushkin, because mine sucked A$$. LOL

[JBELL]

Originally posted by Silversink


PS OPP these blokes are just jealous and they secretly wish they could tinker with a Northwood...But they won't admit it.


tinker with??

how about tinkle on!

[Smizack]

Originally posted by JBELL



tinker with??

how about tinkle on!

LOL!
My thoughts Ed Zachery!:D :D

[Raptor]

Hy!

Sorry for interrupting this happy moment, but i must show you guys my Sandra scores with RDR!!! :D


These were done with my "old" P4T-E, the one i sent to my friend Macci so that he could beat the 16k score!!!

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/raptor/sandramem.jpg

sorry about the size!!!

Now with the P4T533-C, it seems that the memory scores are even higher... but i have to go to work right now...

Maybe when i get the Prometeia, i might get some 3DMarks scores like yours OPP, the problem is where can i get a nice TI4600... still in TI4400 category (right after Sampsas LN2 experience!!!)

[macci]

Raptor, yeah your mobo kicks some butt! :D

So far I'm running slower (10/8) RDRAM timings but its still giving some 4250/4240 scores in sandra @200FSB - 3D performance is outstanding too ;)
The stupid BIOS disables the fast timings (9/7) when past 133fsb or so.

But this is what I got in Sandra2002 w/ my old TH7-2 running at 202FSB 3x RDRAM:
4340/4330 (http://www.solidhardware.com/macci/nw/3240MEM.GIF)
This is w/ fast RDRAM timings (9/7). THat board couldn't handle more than 191FSB for 3D though.

THe P4 mobo king? Id say its the ASUS P4T533C or IWill i850E board at this time. Asus seems to be a little bit faster than the IWill though (prolly cos it enables the faster timings for RDRAM?). Both of those boards require some serious modding (turbopll, Vcore and Vmem vmods) but once modded its the best board out there :)

But BD7-2 is faster than I expected it to be though! :D
That 90+FPS you got in Car Hi shows that its got a lot of "raw" performance! :)
DDR is getting closer to RDRAM all the time - right now the actual performance difference is next to nothing.

[Raptor]

Macci, what do you mean about (10/8) and (9/7) timings?

something in wpcredit?

[OPPAINTER]

Does Abit not have a new Rambus Mobo out yet??

OPP

[JCviggen]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Does Abit not have a new Rambus Mobo out yet??

OPP

Nope but lets hope they will bring one out... the TH7-II would be awesome if it werent for the DRCG's and the poor CPU overclocking. I'm sure Abit should be able to sort that out...

[Raptor]

lets just hope so!!!

But, until then, this P4T533-C rullez! :D

[Silversink]

According to Cw823, the best overclocking mobo is the msi Ultra (I tend to believe him as he's tried them all)

Heres my next mobo(But Im keeping my Epox 4BDA2+ as well)



845E Max2-BLR

http://www.msi.com.tw/products/mainboard/mainboard.php?model=MS-6398E


World's 1st P4 Bluetooh mainboard!
845E Max2-BLR

Support Intel® Pentium 4 processor up to
2.53GHz
FSB: 533MHz
ATA 133 RAID 0 or 1 supported
6 USB 2.0 ports supported
Onboard IntelR 10/100Mb Ethernet network
function
Luxury 5.1 Channel Stereo Audio
PC2PC-Bluetooth - The world's 1st mainboard
supports Bluetooth wireless connection.


That looks like its the king of the Hill boys (Gooch this is what you want mate)

[gambit]

Originally posted by Silversink
According to Cw823, the best overclocking mobo is the msi Ultra (I tend to believe him as he's tried them all)

would that be the msi 845 ultra? i got the ultra-aru and can only manage 2.6ghz with my 1.6. kinda dislike how you can't lock the pci/agp speeds like the abit motherboards. maybe theres a modded bios or something?

[CSHawkeye81]

hopefully after i get my stuff settle next week with randi i am gonna go watercooling in a few weeks with the setup i got.

from danger den:


478 Maze 3 1/3 fittings
Lucite for maze 3
1/2 fittings
Brass Fittings
Black Ice Xtreem with 1/2 fittings
Eheim pump 1250 for 1/2 system
10 ft of silicon tubbing
12 oz of water wetter

[N8]

Originally posted by CSHawkeye81
hopefully after i get my stuff settle next week with randi i am gonna go watercooling in a few weeks with the setup i got.

we ain't heard that story b4 have we? :)

thought u were done w/ these forums?

[john433i]

I have some Crucial PC2100 on my BD7/1.6A combo, and my memory is currently holding me back. It doesn't seem to like to go over 183FSB with 2.7V:p. If anyone has any idea on how to mod this mobo, please help us. I think many of us in the overclockers' community would love to find out how to get some more voltage with this mobo. If anyone needs a pic of what might be the vmem controller, here is the thread: http://discuss.madonion.com/forum/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=techmobocpu&Number=869292&Search=true&Forum=All_Forums&Words=QuadDamage&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=853628

[CSHawkeye81]

hey opp any place good to get the 2.26b or did you get it at the computer fair?

[SKATAN]

Originally posted by macci

The stupid BIOS disables the fast timings (9/7) when past 133fsb or so.


THe P4 mobo king? Id say its the ASUS P4T533C or IWill i850E board at this time. Asus seems to be a little bit faster than the IWill though (prolly cos it enables the faster timings for RDRAM?). Both of those boards require some serious modding (turbopll, Vcore and Vmem vmods) but once modded its the best board out there :)



#1 have you tried booting lower fsb with agressive timings ,then increasing fsb with cpufsb?

that is a little trick i used on 8kha+ as epox suckx a lot in bios and force a lot of slow settings ....

#2 I think theres a new p4t533 coming out that goes 200+ fsb ;)

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OPP

could you post a sandra bench with mmx sse sse2 buffering disabled?

sandra 2002 sux

[OPPAINTER]

SKATAN,

I don't have that mobo anymore, it's on it's way to DDTUNG:D
I should have a IT7 later this week and will be able to do more benching, you'll have to let me know how to dissable that stuff before I do it.

OPP

[Neptune5k]

Opp, what was you're highest stable FSB. I'm considering giving a P4 a shot with this board, and I'm looking for a board with high FSB tolerance.

DDTUNG, I'm looking forward to seeing your results as well.

[SKATAN]

by the way


i think this is the solution to your 250mhz problem

http://211.156.161.168/image/200206/06-xx-3.jpg

[Neptune5k]

Skatan, this is off topic, but i love your Sig - I've had nothing but trouble Epox boards, never again will i mess with their shotty hardware.

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by Neptune5k
Opp, what was you're highest stable FSB. I'm considering giving a P4 a shot with this board, and I'm looking for a board with high FSB tolerance.

DDTUNG, I'm looking forward to seeing your results as well.

I believe The highest I ran 3D as far as memory was 226. I really didn't test much when I couldn't get higher then 232:D
My 100% stable FSB was at 189, my chip was pushing it after that.

OPP

[SKATAN]

Originally posted by Neptune5k
Skatan, this is off topic, but i love your Sig - I've had nothing but trouble Epox boards, never again will i mess with their shotty hardware.


:)

i like my sig too :D


i´m over reacting a bit I just hate their stoopid bios ;)

[macci]

Originally posted by SKATAN



#1 have you tried booting lower fsb with agressive timings ,then increasing fsb with cpufsb?

that is a little trick i used on 8kha+ as epox suckx a lot in bios and force a lot of slow settings ....

#2 I think theres a new p4t533 coming out that goes 200+ fsb ;)

#1 yeah Ive tried that once but that time I was unlucky and the POS just locked up while upping the FSB w/ CPUCOOL. Guess I should maybbe try it again someday :) Or then I'll just flash the P4T533C bios as it may solve this little problem.
There is only one reg. that is different when in slow memtimings mode but I can't set it back to normal w/ WPCREDIT cos it locks up.

#2 I think I've already got an ASUS that not only goes to 200 but also does over 200FSB :D
But Its about time for them to release a board that can overclock without mods though.

[Silversink]

Originally posted by [N8]


we ain't heard that story b4 have we? :)

thought u were done w/ these forums?


Cshawkeye is in the process of making amends ;)

[dmitriyaz]

so for DDR ram, is BD7II the best northwood MoBo or not? (for 1.6a, in particular)...
by the way, really nice forum you got here...pure useful info, no trash...

[OPPAINTER]

dmitriyaz,

Welcome to Xtreme:)

Personally I couldn't tell you if its the best, I can tell you it's a very stable and highly overclockable mobo.
I'll be testing a IT7 soon and see how it compares. One thing that the BD7II lacks is mem voltage. The IT7 is suppose to have more so you can take advantage of the 3:4 FSB/MEM ratio.

OPP

[dmitriyaz]

thanks OPP, :)
do you know if IT7 has the "fixed dividers" option like BD7II?
and doesn't IT7 have less Vcore adjustments?
in any way, could you tell me when you'll get done testing it, so that i can check back with you...?
thanks again,

[biCker]

Pic made of voltage settings on my it-7 with 2266 running on 2.8 gig, fsb 165, 3:4 ( wich btw gives me only 13580 3dmark scores, on fsb 175, 1:1 gives me 14050, so i 'don't understand why this 3:4 would be better, it limits my fsb to 165?? )

http://home.pi.be/~depippe/v.JPG

vcore set to max 1.7v
dram set to max 3.2v

Does anybody found something about doing a vmod on this it-7?

[JCviggen]

if you could do 3:4 175 it'd be better ;-)
Now your ram cant handle 175 3:4 , thats why...

[CSHawkeye81]

yeah i might consider an it7 now cause of the higher memory voltage.

[GOD]

Hi to u all...
i`ll be coming here too.....
i`m just wondering.
what r the chances of me getting to 3gig with a 2.26B with BD7II???
i`ll be getting it mid this week.....
with a pair of 512meg corsair XMS3000 on the BD7II???
Cheers...

GOD.....

[deerslayer]

God,

I recently got a 2.26B and put it in my BD7. 3 gig on air :D

Only problem I am having is the temps @ 1.85 are like 10c higher then the 1.6a @ 1.85v. I reseated the volcano 7+ several times. I really dislike this cooler, $45 for cheap POS.

And hello, nice little forum you got going here. :)

[GOD]

Originally posted by deerslayer
God,

I recently got a 2.26B and put it in my BD7. 3 gig on air :D

Only problem I am having is the temps @ 1.85 are like 10c higher then the 1.6a @ 1.85v. I reseated the volcano 7+ several times. I really dislike this cooler, $45 for cheap POS.

And hello, nice little forum you got going here. :)
so what`s the actual temp for load and idle???
i`ve used a zelman CNPS 5500cu with a delta 60cfm 80mm fan
and i was getting 40c with 2.0A @2.66gig with 1.85v...

damn this forum is slllooooooowwwww.....:rolleyes:

GOD.....:)

[deerslayer]

It is like 39 idle and 57 @ load!!! 1.6a @ 1.95 was like 48@ load. Reseated cooler 3x so I don't know if these 2.26B's run hotter or what.

[CSHawkeye81]

Originally posted by deerslayer
God,

I recently got a 2.26B and put it in my BD7. 3 gig on air :D

Only problem I am having is the temps @ 1.85 are like 10c higher then the 1.6a @ 1.85v. I reseated the volcano 7+ several times. I really dislike this cooler, $45 for cheap POS.

And hello, nice little forum you got going here. :)


wow where did you get your chip at???

[deerslayer]

www.aticom.com.
It is a Maylasian chip.

[CSHawkeye81]

wow good oc man!

[Darius]

2.26b malay 165fsb x 17 with 1.62v stable.

Cant get more out of memory ... I seriosuly have tried everything, the fastest I have gotten it to is 202mhz 2.5 - 6 - 3 - 3 dsabled enhanced dram :(

ive nearly given up on this ddr poo ...

[Naser]

Very nice score OPP,heres my DDR at 189 & 4:5 setting on an Asus board.Its says cas-2 but its 2.5,also how to calculate what fsb the ram is running at? is it 189*5/4 =236 ?

http://www.tbreak.com/~naser/3Ghz/189ram.jpg

[IFMU]

Originally posted by Silversink
I told you all Mushkin kicks @SS!!!


Nobody listens to a damn word i say because Im a Intel user......glad Im not alone now.....Thank GOD you made it OPPAINTER.

PS OPP these blokes are just jealous and they secretly wish they could tinker with a Northwood...But they won't admit it.

heh... well I wont go into all of that.. BUT

I had a stick of Mushkin, PC3000 too. I couldnt get it above 156? or something like that. It wouldnt do crap..... and I know it was the ram, due to removing it and putting in some crucial pc2100, I got to 172. So, heh, I cannot agree that its all that.. LoL

oh, and see sig =) :D