dry ice supplys for the uk

[leejsmith]

We have a thread in the 3dmark section that started out as uk 3dmark team but quickley changed to dry ice so i have started this new thread.

i am waiting for quotes on solid tubes that i could supply with full kits including insulation and mounting hardware but it's a slow process and the cnc people i am working with are realy taking there time.

in the mean time soddemfx has started work on a brased tube and hold down.

here are some links for dry ice compresion springs ,threaded rod and armaflex insualtion sheet , tube


dry ice first

http://www.allaboutice.com/cubed_crushed_dry.htm

10kg Pellets £29.80 + VAT
they have online ordering
delivery to nottingham £15
i think they offer free delivery to london.
you need to have something to store it when it gets to you as they delivery it in there own freezer lorry.

http://ind.yara.co.uk/en/products_services/products/dry_ice.html
minimum order 20kg
£60 deliverd including insualted box.


http://www.highlandice.co.uk
minimum 10kg order £56 inclusive deliverd to nottingham.


for springs / threaded rod and armaflex sheet

http://www.cisdirect.co.uk

and for armaflex tube

http://www.kitsonsthermal.co.uk/flex_foam.htm


copper / aluminium tube / round bar sheet

http://www.metalsontheweb.co.uk/asp/home.asp

[marvt74]

I've just been on the phone to a company called Global Ice they seem to have many retail outlets so may be an idea fo collection to save about £15 on delivery. I'm waiting for a price at the minute.

They have a base in The Wirrel which is in the North West along with many in London but if you give them a ring they may have one local to you. 0800 731 4487

[leejsmith]

Oxford is the closest for me

http://www.global-ice.co.uk/html/global_network.html




I've just been on the phone to a company called Global Ice they seem to have many retail outlets so may be an idea fo collection to save about £15 on delivery. I'm waiting for a price at the minute.

They have a base in The Wirrel which is in the North West along with many in London but if you give them a ring they may have one local to you. 0800 731 4487

[marvt74]

Ok Global Ice North West quoted the usual £30 for 10kg so thats obviously an industry standard price pretty much. Delivery was £10 so that makes it a good deal for a days benching as it should last about 8 hours. Probably longer if using with a Dothan chip since they give out such low heat.

[leejsmith]

yes £40 is better.

[bazx]

lee good call starting a new thread

and thanks for all the links guys

there seems to be alot of us here in the UK looking for this stuff

[K404]

Thanks for the links...the armaflex links in particular i`m grateful for :)

[leejsmith]

Glad i can help.
i just need to find the link in phase change section for the liquid tape

also working on a mounting system for dothan instead of the p4 brackets for the tubes but i think it's been been done in the dothan threads anyway.

[leejsmith]

the parts i orderd from cisdirect arrived today.
if you use the supersaver it could take 3-4 days to arrive.

[SoddemFX]

Ready to brase:

http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/4585/top9hk.jpg

Another angle:

http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/1275/side6oq.jpg

Its will be brased with Silfos 15% rods, these are the best i have...

Tom

[leejsmith]

the base looks awsome :slobber: nice work.

[lawrywild]

looks very very nice..

i want one.. :p:

have you thought of a price :p:

[SoddemFX]

No price, no sale, one off :D

...but thankyou! :)

[leejsmith]

i went to see the cnc people in person today.
the big delay was getting a special tool to mill the in side over the length of the tubes so after talking to them and seeing what they could do with tools they already have we have some ideas and they will work on it monday.

it will be simular to the soddemfx tube as it's 2 part but i hope the solid base part will be longer and they will have some nice solid base pins / fins designs for me.

first will be aluminium prototype but the desings will be ok for copper too.

this is not to say soddemfx's tube isnt awsome but i planned from the start to get some made and i will if i have to enter the machine shop in the dead of night and make them myself :)

[lawrywild]

i will if i have to enter the machine shop in the dead of night and make them myself :)

hehe :D

[SoddemFX]

All finished and posted to Lee a few hours ago:

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/913/side6wt.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1554/sidedown3vm.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1551/parts9lr.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3773/together5gb.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7567/top4ua.jpg

Hopefully it should work well, we'll see :D

Tom

[marvt74]

Looking good mate, lets hope a few records come home :D

[lawrywild]

hehe looks very nice

GJ

[leejsmith]

I am about to order a 10kg bag from yara heathrow
1 x 10kg bag £14.25
1 x carton £5.50
1 x delivery £15

total inc vat £40.24
should be with me tommorw.

[bazx]

have fun with it

[leejsmith]

first thing will be testing soddemfx's tube to see how the solder joins cope if this goes well will get it ready for a p4 to test and then a dothan 770.

[marvt74]

Awesome, any chance of a down the tube picture.

You still aiming to build some yourself? Mine seem to not be comming any more :(

[leejsmith]

i am if the cnc place pulls his finger out of his :banana: :banana: :banana:
and gets on with it.

i will post pics with mounting on dothan and everything else.



Awesome, any chance of a down the tube picture.

You still aiming to build some yourself? Mine seem to not be comming any more :(

[leejsmith]

The dice arrived this morning yara was very helpfull in making sure i get all the details inc tracking.
it arrived in a box but in the box was a poly box with a bag of peletts and also pieces in paper about 10cm x 5cm i guess for packing.
this box fitted perfectly inside a poly box i already had so it's double insulated when not in use.

i decided to use a celeron an crappy abit sis chipset mobo as tester for the tube.
it was already insualted so i just used the mouting kit soddemfx sent.

http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/dice/tube1.jpg

very easy.

in the bios temps showed 18C with no dice.

http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/dice/start.JPG

then after filling with dice it dropped to -60C and stayed there for about half an hour until i switched off. (no overclocking in the mobo so no point trying)
i need to find some liquid to put in but not sure what to get.

http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/dice/minus60.jpg

http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/dice/tube2.jpg
http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/dice/tube3.jpg

i need to do some work on my dothan rig so wont get chance to run that yet.

once the dice in the tube is used i will check the solder joints but looks like it will be ok.

[marvt74]

How did it all go pal, how long did the Dice stay for being melting away?

Looks like i should be able to get free dice aswell due to a family friend :D, just need to get a tube

[leejsmith]

i am trying to get my booster mod sorted so have not ran any more dry ice runs.
i have a problem in that i cant get the hold down off the threaded rod so need to sort that too.

i do have one problem. at what point do you remove the tube when you have finished. if you leave it too long with no load everything frosts up and then you get water over everything. try and take it off before and it's very very cold.

[SoddemFX]

Nice going Lee, liquid is definately needed.

How cold is the nylon upper mount getting?

Tom

[leejsmith]

it got a bit frosty while i was just in the bios.
i was thinking it could have gone lower than -60 but the bios only goes down that far.
My temp sensor only goes down to -50.



Nice going Lee, liquid is definately needed.

How cold is the nylon upper mount getting?

Tom

[leejsmith]

I put the dice tube on my 770 but as it was sunday and i had it since friday i think it was not as cold as it was.

cpu temp showed -35C idle and -32 load.
i had my 770 upto 3.2 a 23sec super pi 1m run but it started to generate errors like the ram was unstable but i know it wasnt.
plus i am sure i could go higher too.

decided to stop and check how my insualtion was holding up and found a little frost on the edges of the ct-479 but everything else was ok.

it works well soddemfx and the solder joints are fine.

will check what pictures i have and post them later tonight.

[SlackeR]

DICE is always the same temp.. It is like ice water, which is at 0C because that is its melting point. DICE has both melting an boiling point at app -80C, so it is always at that temp :)

[leejsmith]

even after sitting in a poly box for 2 days and only 20% was left 10% i used so 70% turned back to gas.?

[marvt74]

Yeah it'll have just gone, it lasted longer than i expected actually, though i guess if you wern;t using it.

Maybe bad contact with the 770. As likeSlacker says its always going to be -79 it doesnt warm up so to speak.

Unless you used extra acetone to fill the tube and had a bigger ratio of it to Dice?

When did you get that 770 anyway dude thought you only had a 750 that wasn;t related to work.

[leejsmith]

sold my 730 and 750 for a 770 es but it's not as goon on air as the 780 i had.
indoors on air 2850 is max with my crap single stage and a core temp of -2 3150.

but i do have some geil one bh5 and running at 3150 with fsb of 240 2-2-2-5 and proper turbo and pat set from 200fsb i ran a 23sec 1m pi run but didnt get a screen shot of it as i thought i would do better.
running at 200fsb with turbo and pat make a massive differance in pi scores.

the contact with the 770 core was good i did have a p4 heatspreader on it though.

i had the poly box from yara in another poly box i had and was happy to see some left on monday not sunday (was very hung over sunday) even better than i said before.

and i am on my 3rd 9250 card still 600 points short.


Yeah it'll have just gone, it lasted longer than i expected actually, though i guess if you wern;t using it.

Maybe bad contact with the 770. As likeSlacker says its always going to be -79 it doesnt warm up so to speak.

Unless you used extra acetone to fill the tube and had a bigger ratio of it to Dice?

When did you get that 770 anyway dude thought you only had a 750 that wasn;t related to work.

[SoddemFX]

Glad to hear it Lee :)

Are you using a liquid medium with the DI?

Tom

[leejsmith]

i only have white spirit so only used a little bit due to fumes not sure where to get acetone and was told nail polish remover is not good.

what about vodka ? have plenty of that.

i have to say i was a little put off using the dice after my first go and the amount of liquid left on the motherboard and cpu ect but i guess it just needs a few goes to work things out.


Glad to hear it Lee :)



Are you using a liquid medium with the DI?

Tom

[leejsmith]

i did have a picture of a 23sec run

http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/benchin/m77023sec.jpg

plus dry ice mounting on dothan + ct479

http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/benchin/ct4793.jpg
http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/benchin/ct4792.jpg

the foam is cut around the ct479

http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/benchin/ct4791.jpg
http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/benchin/ct4794.jpg

and the top foam is cut on the underside to allow for the socket / cpu

http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/benchin/dothantube1.jpg
http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/benchin/dothantube2.jpg


i have used the same hook type things to mount my single stage and water blocks.

[marvt74]

Interesting, where did you get the hook things? and is that just a nut stuck onto it for the rod to screw into?

Also do you have any links for the fsb mod? I can't find a post explaining it or is it just a case of soldering a connection between the pins?

Did you notice muchof an increase between your SS and dry ice?

[leejsmith]

i made them from L shape aluminium bar and there is a bolt each side.

what do you mean fsb mod ? i am not sure

as my single stage has a leek it was only showing -25C on the golden froster display and -5C in the bios max OC 3150 . the dice showed -35C in the bios and i had it at 3200 but started to get errors in super pi but errors that i normaly get when ram is the problem.



Interesting, where did you get the hook things? and is that just a nut stuck onto it for the rod to screw into?

Also do you have any links for the fsb mod? I can't find a post explaining it or is it just a case of soldering a connection between the pins?

Did you notice muchof an increase between your SS and dry ice?

[marvt74]

The fsb mod for the jumpers on the ct-479 so the jumper doesn't stick up

[dinos22]

i need to find some liquid to put in but not sure what to get.pretty sure people use acetone

[leejsmith]

cut the pins back , remove the plastic base and solder some links inplace of the sumpers.


The fsb mod for the jumpers on the ct-479 so the jumper doesn't stick up

[marvt74]

Cheers thought so just preferred confirmation already almost buggered one adaptor up :(

[leejsmith]

Well back to the dry ice tubes i spoke to the cnc shop and he says he can start work on my tube designs next week so i wil have an idea how much they will cost and after actually using a tube i have a better idea whats needed.

[marvt74]

Cool i've just bought Jan's aluminium tube but if you have any plans for a gpu tube i'd be very interested

[4Qman]

Many thanks to the UK sellers of Dry Ice.

Im looking to make or buy a Pot as im new to Dry Ice. Can anyone recommend
any where to buy or the correct sizes in which they have used.

Be very grateful.

[Waus-mod]

Nice setup leejsmith... but isnt 23.xx to slow for 3100mhz?

[leejsmith]

my ram was poor on this run that held me back
plus just after the cpuz clockgen problem took out my gskill tccd too. :( so didnt get chance to get my best score.

After this i had some geil one bh5 but it didnt work to well on the intel system.

at 200 2-2-2-5 full pat and turbo it maxed at 236 fsb. if i booted at 201 with no pat / turbo and used i865 tweaker to adjust latency i could run 1m pi at 250 2-2-2-8 with latency 01 but it was not as fast as the 235 with full pat.
plus was not 100% stable.

if i had the bh5 ram at 236 with the cpu at 3100 i would have a better score.

but thanks anyway it was fun on the dry ice but a little scary at the same time.


Nice setup leejsmith... but isnt 23.xx to slow for 3100mhz?

[marvt74]

Many thanks to the UK sellers of Dry Ice.

Im looking to make or buy a Pot as im new to Dry Ice. Can anyone recommend
any where to buy or the correct sizes in which they have used.

Be very grateful.

I'm likely to have one but you'd need to make a hold down for it

[4Qman]

I'm likely to have one but you'd need to make a hold down for it

Just PM'd u mate,

[marvt74]

Any update on your tubes Lee?

Still not got sorted yet with my dothan plans :( Killed my 730 the other day and just ordered 2 chips with unknown potential so not sure hoe they'll do

[leejsmith]

Nothing.
i have not spoke to them for a week but i think it's a waste of time.
i keep asking and they say in the next week ect. I dont have the time to keep chasing or find another one local.

the bigest problem is the tooling needed to do a solid tube. all the places i spoke to need to get the tool special so it adds to the cost of the tubes.

[marvt74]

Glad i can help.
i just need to find the link in phase change section for the liquid tape



Just flicking back thread the thread and remembered this

Liquid Tape (http://www.frost.co.uk/productList.asp?catID=18)

[Raccoon]

Massive 2 year bump... ^^

Does anyone know where i can buy / have a Dry ice pot made?

Want to spend about £80...I don't know if that is reasonable though

=)

Advice welcomed

[K404]

There arent really any pot makers in the UK. Piotres (Poland) and Duniek (France) might be able to help and ship a pot over to you :)

K

-> Welcome to XS!

[PPInDaHouse]

There arent really any pot makers in the UK. Piotres (Poland) and Duniek (France) might be able to help and ship a pot over to you :)

K

-> Welcome to XS!

Duniek is from Poland, well at least last week he was :)

[Raccoon]

Thanks dude

I'll PM them both

Dad is an electrician, working on a Forge at present, he said he'll speak to the blacksmith if he is able to make one

^^

[K404]

Woops! Sorry to Duniek!

[Mankz_91]

Aqua-Pcs in the UK stock Little Devil pots...

[Raccoon]

I looked on the site, but i can't find any little devil pots

They have a LN2 Pot - £180 though!


=/

[K404]

Yea, those are made by LD :) Cheaper going straight to LD though.....

[Raccoon]

I don't know if Duniek reads this, but i have been 'advertising' your work on another computer enthusiast forum [Our British overclockers club]

Is it possible you have a picture of your Value Alu/Alu DICE/LN2 pot? Would be good - thanks