New "Liberty" 620W from ENERMAX

[CodeHunter]

http://www.enermax.com/product_psu_liberty620w.htm

Seems like a winner!

[.sentinel]

I don't think so after what the so called Enermax 650W "SLI" Certified did in the Hexus.net Power Supply Showdown. It blew chunks. I will not ever buy a Enermax

[Lando95]

I don't think so after what the so called Enermax 650W "SLI" Certified did in the Hexus.net Power Supply Showdown. It blew junks. I will not ever buy a Enermax

So you will not buy any component based upon 1 failed psu in 1 review? That's not very logical, IMO. And Enermax has a stellar reputation for building high quality psu's.

[.sentinel]

I think I can base it after their High-End power supply didn't even deliever the rated 650W.

[Dissolved]

I think I can base it after their High-End power supply didn't even deliever the rated 650W.




1. enermax is better then you think
2. just because one psu fails cant mean you say a Whole company sucks. get real dude. you think OCZ or antec or other companys didnt have a psu or memory stick fail during a review?
3. your crapping on a great company. you do have an opinon, but its basied off a stupid fact. i like how your sig takes about thread crapping.

[.sentinel]

Its not that it failed its that it couldn't live up to the rated specs. I said I would not buy a Enermax its called an opinion which you pointed out. How is thread crapping the same as basing an open on a compnay.

[sin0822]

dont hte 600watters blow up?

[metro.cl]

i have an enermax and is great rock solid and really low noise and temps

[Dave in Daytona]

Its not that it failed its that it couldn't live up to the rated specs. I said I would not buy a Enermax its called an opinion which you pointed out. How is thread crapping the same as basing an open on a compnay.You are are very foolish to base such a decision on "1" review &
that by people doing the review in the lab of a competing company (FSP).
Enermax has a long history of making quality PSU's &
there are 100's of positive Enermax reviews. :fact:

One must assume that you are an inexperienced. (...)censored :D - bachus_anonym.

[Dissolved]

Its not that it failed its that it couldn't live up to the rated specs. I said I would not buy a Enermax its called an opinion which you pointed out. How is thread crapping the same as basing an open on a compnay.


well your bashing a new product from a company that had one issue with one review. why even post that stupid comment? its not useful to this thread.

Anyways, i like the look of the psu, but its nothing id get right now.

-edit: im not trying to flame anyone, just simply people that have things in there sigs and making posts like that just annoy me a tad.

[CodeHunter]

I am sold! Liberty, here I come! :banana:
(good thing I can return my un-opened Enermax AIO Noisetaker 600W!)

[\Karting_freak]

does it have 8pin connector?

[Quest For Speed]

I agree that you can not draw any conclusions on 1 review. The OCZ power supply failed TomsHardware stress test but is one of the most popular power supplies with very few complaints. When I need another PSU I will seriously consider the Enermax.

[[KoG]^weaZel]

does it have 8pin connector?


Full support of Dual Core systems (incl. Pentium D EE and Athlon 64 X2) & Dual CPU systems.
Normally this would mean that yes it does have the 8-pin connector.

[D_o_S]

I don't think so after what the so called Enermax 650W "SLI" Certified did in the Hexus.net Power Supply Showdown. It blew chunks. I will not ever buy a Enermax

A) The Enermax is not 650W, but only 600W (at least the EG701 was the closest to 650W that I could find in Hexus' review).
B) I have that Enermax, and I have to say that it is a very good unit, I have not experienced any issues with my current system.
C) In the past, Enermax has made a lot of quality PSUs, so please don't put it down onto the level of something like a QTEC.

I will not say that you should speak from experience, because that is almost certainly impossible to do (unless you have had 10+ Enermax EG701s go bad on you). I have nothing against your opinion, I am simply asking you to learn from your mistakes and not base everything on one review.

I think that we can agree that PC Power and Cooling units are among the best, but see post #2 here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1044982 . Not every unit is perfect...

Cheers,

[CodeHunter]

Does anyone know when are they going to be available in the market? :banana:

[goodcooper]

why should buy a unit that failed EVEN 1 test in EVEN 1 single review...


when i could buy one that didn't just as easily?

enermax fanboys aside, i wish we could buy Akasas here
next unit will probably be a Tagan

[NickS]

I've owned 2 Enermax's personally. My 420w Noisetaker still power's my pc fine.

I've reccomeneded Enermax's to everyone and everyone who's bought one has loved them.,.

[Dave in Daytona]

I really can't believe the *** n000bs here! Here is a company (Enermax) that has been giving us excellent PSU's for years & one "BS" website faults one of their PSU's & these *** are throwing in the towel! ***! :slapass:

[self moderating]Dave ;)

[rick_fx]

I've owned 2 Enermax's personally. My 420w Noisetaker still power's my pc fine.

I've reccomeneded Enermax's to everyone and everyone who's bought one has loved them.,.

I still prefer OCZ though :)

[NickS]

I really can't believe the *** n000bs here! Here is a company (Enermax) that has been giving us excellent PSU's for years & one "BS" website faults one of their PSU's & these *** are throwing in the towel! ***! :slapass:

[self moderating]Dave ;)

I know, really. :mad:

How much'ya wanna bet, Goodcooper has never owned an Enermax? :stick:

[goodcooper]

never owned one, but i've worked on several, they seemed 'without issue'...

i never did flame enermax, and i do agree, there are a lot of n00bs here that will not look beyond thier own :banana::banana::banana::banana: and buy a different product, its called product bias... everyone thinks thier own stuff is better than everyone elses...

i've owned a lot of power supplies, and right now i'm running a Tt 480w, that these days probably isn't suitable for a lot of systems, no 24pin connector etc, low +12v rails... but its never been unstable.... and i'm sure there are a lot of people here who would flame it in a heartbeat...

i'm just saying they operate @ spec.... why should i buy a unit that has EVER FAILED EVEN A SINGLE STUPID LAME TEST (which hexus' WASn't, it was EXTREMELY thorough if you read the thing through, more than just hooking the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: up and measuring the rails on it... ) when i can buy a fortron or tagan... or akasa (i wish) or even a new Tt or Antec?

NickS is just trying to stir something up, like always, the avg fanboy

EDIT: why do you CARE what others buy? its a form of flaming everyone elses brands... its a form of saying if somebody decides to buy an OCZ instead of an enermax, they should have bought an enermax.... why? because OCZ sucks...


so stop trying to call other people flamers... and just drop it,


of all things to get angry about, wow, a friggin power supply

[NickS]

Nobody was angry =|.

[goodcooper]

nick you don't count, shhhh

[IFMU]

Watch it people, lets not allow this to become a flame fest.
Dave in Daytona, you are pushing it, keep it up and you will receive an official warning.

IFMU

[Dave in Daytona]

Watch it people, lets not allow this to become a flame fest.
Dave in Daytona, you are pushing it, keep it up and you will receive an official warning.

IFMUIs that a threat? :confused:

[IFMU]

Is that a threat? :confused:
No, it's a promise.

[Jupiler]

Picked up this one today :


http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/liberty/IMG_1504.jpg


http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/liberty/IMG_1505.jpg


http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/liberty/IMG_1506.jpg


http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/liberty/IMG_1507.jpg


http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/liberty/IMG_1508.jpg


http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/liberty/IMG_1509.jpg


http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/liberty/IMG_1517.jpg


http://users.skynet.be/MetalHead/liberty/IMG_1519.jpg


I will be testing it this weekend and post some results.

[Dave in Daytona]

CONGRATS! :toast:
A beautiful PSU! :clap:

[Jupiler]

It looks nice indeed, hope it performs the same way.

One little thing I find weird is how the cables are managed.
There are 8x 4pin connectors and 8x SATA connectors in total, divided over 4 cables.
Now, logically, you would expect that you'd have 4x 4pin molex per cable and 4 SATA connectors per other cable, right? That's what I'd expect anyway.
But no, you have 2x 4pin and 2x SATA on each cable. Don't really understand why they did this. If you have 4 SATA drives in your rig, you'll be needing 2 cables instead of just 1, if there were 4x SATA connectors on it.

[Dave in Daytona]

It looks nice indeed, hope it performs the same way.

One little thing I find weird is how the cables are managed.
There are 8x 4pin connectors and 8x SATA connectors in total, divided over 4 cables.
Now, logically, you would expect that you'd have 4x 4pin molex per cable and 4 SATA connectors per other cable, right? That's what I'd expect anyway.
But no, you have 2x 4pin and 2x SATA on each cable. Don't really understand why they did this. If you have 4 SATA drives in your rig, you'll be needing 2 cables instead of just 1, if there were 4x SATA connectors on it.To balance the load over 2 cables, instead of one. :banana:

[Squid_Spit]

Very nice write a little review if you can.

[nn_step]

So you will not buy any component based upon 1 failed psu in 1 review? That's not very logical, IMO. And Enermax has a stellar reputation for building high quality psu's.
Lovely but I never heard of a PCP&C PSU dying in any review/test what so ever...
I spend too much money on my rig to risk it with a "most likely" good PSU
I demand perfection from my PSU and Enermax has yet to meet my requirements...

[Jupiler]

OK,
installed the PSU in my other rig, consisting of the ASUS P5WD2 Premium and a 630 @ 4150Mhz.
Powered up and checking the voltages in the bios.
+3.3V : 3.39V
+12V : 12.19V
+5V : 5.17V

Not bad for a start.
Had to make a fresh install of XP. After that, I tried getting MBM reading the voltages, because the high/low feature is good to record and check the average voltages.
Unfortunately, I couldn't get it to work, neither had speedfan the option to record it, because it could only read the +3.3V and +12V lines.

So I had to do it with ASUS Probe II. Couldn't find any recording features though, something the older version has.
I had 2 instances of D2OL running, and while it was running I observed the lines.
Probe II recorded the same voltages as the bios showed at startup.

The 3.3V line stayed at 3.39V and didn't move for over 5 minutes.
The 12V line fluctuated between 12.17 - 12.20V, didn't see it go higher or lower.
The 5V fluctuated also a little between 5.17 - 5.20V.

To bad I couldn't find a better monitoring program, which would make it easier to check the voltages.

About the 12cm fan :
it spins at around 1000 rpm and is very quiet.
I turned off my system fans and had only the cpu fan from the TT Big Typhoon running, which is known for being very quiet too.
Well, I couldn't hear the PSU fan from close range, the TT fan was louder than it.

To make a more accurate test, I'll be swapping PSU's tomorrow and try the Liberty on my DFI SLI-D. MBM works fine on that one, and it will give me the possibility to compare it against my Powerstream 520W.

I hope to get more results by monday.

[Dave in Daytona]

Walmart has very nice B&D DMM's for about $15. :slap:

[Jupiler]

I have a DMM thx, no need for me to go across the atlantic to find a Walmart. :rolleyes:

Took out the MM and measured the 12V and 5V lines.

Under load :
12V : 12.06-12.08V
5V : 5.13V (didn't move, stayed the same all the time)

Nice, steady voltages if you ask me.
Don't know if further measurements on another board are required. If yes, just ask.

[Dave in Daytona]

I have a DMM thx, no need for me to go across the atlantic to find a Walmart. :rolleyes:

Took out the MM and measured the 12V and 5V lines.

Under load :
12V : 12.06-12.08V
5V : 5.13V (didn't move, stayed the same all the time)

Nice, steady voltages if you ask me.
Don't know if further measurements on another board are required. If yes, just ask.Looks good to me! :toast:

[Jupiler]

Pics from DMM :

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38694&stc=1


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38695&stc=1

[Nanobot]

Thanks for the info Jupiler :)

Could you give us a reading on the 3.3 's stability on the MM ?

Depending on how efficient it really is it's goona be my next PSU since the Seasonics have some minore issues with the DFI nF4.

Hopfully SPCR (http://www.silentpcreview.com/) will do a review of it,they have an excellent testing rig.

[perkam]

JP, are the load results with your SLI rig ?

Not too surprised with the 5v and 3.3v rails as Enermax has done the same thing Seasonic does just to give insane wattage and amps to its 12v rails ---> Skimp on wattage for its 5v and 3.3v rails (total power 160W, total power for Seasonic 600W for those two rails is 180W).

Perkam

[Jupiler]

I'll check the 3.3V line later today.

[Jupiler]

Nope.
Results were measured with just 1x 6600GT in my rig.

I was assembling a rig for a friend of mine (which included the same card as mine), so I took the opportunity to put them in SLI and ran some benchmarks.

[shocktech]

If Voodoopc uses it and insures it.. its gotta be good and reliable.

[Jupiler]

Here's a pic from the 3.3V readings on the MM.
Measuring was done while dual prime was running for about 10 minutes.
3.3V line stayed at 3.41-3.42V all the time, didn't go any lower nor higher.

Keep in mind that I tested this on the P5WD2 Premium board, no tests were done on the DFI NF4 board. Sorry.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38855&stc=1

[ENERMAX]

To balance the load over 2 cables, instead of one. :banana:

Hello, I am from ENERMAX PM in Taiwan. That is wrong. The connectors a a new concept called ETERNITY. They are designed to give you maximum choice in between SATA and Molex. (Up to now Molex and SATA were fixed in numbers.) ETERNITY features these in pairs so you can have maximum SATA or Molex or mixed as you wish without adaptors up to 12, when using spare cable. (1 socket is free)
Therefore they are mixed per cable and not for load reasons or any other.
Additional benefit is that you can exchange Molex HD to SATA HD without any reconnection of other components by just using the SATA connector besides the Molex.

Jupiler, since I understand you are doing a test review. In case of any questions please contact our LA or San Francisco office.

[Nanobot]

Welcome to Xtremesystems ENERMAX !

Could you please find out why the ferrite ring core of the Noisetaker is not found on the Liberty ? Is it simply not needed ?

[ENERMAX]

The Ring Core is not necessary, due to a new PCB design inside, which minimizes EM pulse.

[SPQQKY]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817194004

On sale at the egg. Looks like I know what will be on my x-mas list, though I love my Whisper II 535w.

[\Karting_freak]

Enermax
Hi!
Does this PSU have 8pin connector?
Does it have any issueus running with DFI CF-DR?

[ENERMAX]

Yes,
All our desktop psu's marked with "All-in-One" have an 8 Pin connector or like LIBERTY 4+4 (4 pins are detachable without adaptor). The EPS models anyway :-)

No issue or incompatibilities known with any mobo or graphic card as long as they are ATX12V 1.3 or higher. (No -5V available)

[Dave in Daytona]

Yes,
All our desktop psu's marked with "All-in-One" have an 8 Pin connector or like LIBERTY 4+4 (4 pins are detachable without adaptor). The EPS models anyway :-)

No issue or incompatibilities known with any mobo or graphic card as long as they are ATX12V 1.3 or higher. (No -5V available)Do you have reviews or test results with DFI N4 mobos? :confused:

[Jupiler]

Here's one, tested with the SLI-DR :

http://hi-techreviews.com/reviews/liberty/P1.htm

Other reviews :

http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/enermax_liberty/index.shtml

http://www.pro-clockers.com/article.php?id=38&page=1

http://www.pureoverclock.com/article20.html

One in french :

http://www.matbe.com/articles/lire/256/liberty-620-watts-la-modulaire-enermax/page1.php

[Dave in Daytona]

Here's one, tested with the SLI-DR :

http://hi-techreviews.com/reviews/liberty/P1.htm

Other reviews :

http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/enermax_liberty/index.shtml

http://www.pro-clockers.com/article.php?id=38&page=1

http://www.pureoverclock.com/article20.html

One in french :

http://www.matbe.com/articles/lire/256/liberty-620-watts-la-modulaire-enermax/page1.phpThank you! :toast:

[Xenom0rph]

I was going to buy an OCZ PS 520W, but it's out of stock, and then i saw the Liberty 620W, which is very stable and MUCH quieter than the OCZ, so i've asked for one already :)

[[XC] moddolicous]

This looks like a solid PSU, although I dont think I'll need the 600w. What versions do they make, 500, 620 and a 400w one??

[krampak]

I've just bought an Enermax Liberty 620W to replace my coolergiant 480W.
This PSU is rock stable ! I'm passing OCCT at 2850Mhz, will post the graphics tomorrow (going to sleep).

PD: it's on a DFI SLI-D.

Here you have it if you are interested in the results:

3.3V
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/1533/33v7rl.th.gif (http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=33v7rl.gif)

5V
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/1174/5v0ge.th.gif (http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5v0ge.gif)

12V
http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/8673/12v5go.th.gif (http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12v5go.gif)

Vcore
http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/7843/vcore1vj.th.gif (http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vcore1vj.gif)

That's with an opteron 148@2860Mhz 1.40v (in bios), 3 HD's, 4 fans, 1x7800GT stock.

[Shark-357]

It looks like the Liberty 620W will be my next PSU :slobber:

[TEDY]

price of 620w ?

[Bladesinger7x]

More than 500W and much more than 400W :D :D :D :D

Saj ne, 620W naj bi bil tam 42-43 jurjov. :stick: :slap: :slapass:
400W 21K :banana:
500W 26-27K :banana: :banana:

[irev210]

My OCCT graph looked totally different, but I have a 500watt.

I will make a new post I guess with all of my findings.

The 3.3V rail was perfectly stable, while the 5V was moving around a little.

I am going to run OCCT and 3D05 to see what type of results we get on the 12V rail, the 7800GTX SLI should really suck the power down.

Maybe i should upgrade to the 620 :)

The Power PC and Cooling powersupplies seem really expensive. I cant afford them, is the price justified?

[CodeHunter]

price of 620w ?

It runs about $170 to $190. I ordered mine from ZipZoomFly for $186.08 (after tax and shipping), I am expecting it next Tuesday! :banana:

[Dumo]

I don't think so after what the so called Enermax 650W "SLI" Certified did in the Hexus.net Power Supply Showdown. It blew chunks. I will not ever buy a EnermaxThey should review this instead:) ....10 more watts..

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7489/picture0206jp.jpg