The Official Opteron 939 Overclocking Thread

[dogsx2]

Well, I got tired of asking for ss of the Opteron 939 cpu's so I got my own ss 25 minutes after I got home from work. I did rip the box open, put it in the mb and cranked up the MHz. I am not the low volts burn kind of guy(not slant on those who are). I will only post if I have a pi ss. Here's 25 minutes worth of oc'ing. Ram is OCZ4800.


http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/5990/14430034ku.th.jpg (http://img344.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14430034ku.jpg)

[Absolute_0]

Very nice... what's teh cooling and ambient temps?

Also, the voltage is very low, how well does it respond to more voltage?

[Vapor]

Sick results man....especially on the stock cooler :slobber: (assumption)

[dogsx2]

Very nice... what's teh cooling and ambient temps?

Also, the voltage is very low, how well does it respond to more voltage?

Don't know, just got it. The cooler is a hyper 6 with smart cat fan, as5.

[agenda2005]

Wow! I may have to experiment with a 146 S939 Opteron and see how it goes. 9 x multi is kinda low.

[ozzimark]

methinks my opteron is a lame one :(
1.6v for 2942mhz 1M on water:

http://forums.eclipseoc.com/index.php?showtopic=23&view=findpost&p=617359



http://eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_42.png


i can get decent screens out of it though
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=40158 - 1.55v, again water

[ZoKi]

well done boys.. Keep em coming

[gundamit]

Off to a good start except for the temps. I'm on water and you can see my idle temp in the screenie. I'm hoping I just didn't mount the block quite right. I'll look at that before I start pushing on it. Tommorow morning I'll take another shot.

I used some old Hynix I had laying around. Keeping the memory low to make sure that doesn't hold up the OC party.

Sorry about the shakey image ... I guess I was a little excited.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3184/opteron144id7dv.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2912/338x86pl.png

[dogsx2]

MB went bad and will now only work with one ram in middle orange slot. Wouldn't do anything until I cleared it. Oh well, it didn't stop me. Here's a ss in single of pi 32m(don't know if it means anything running it without dc). They do run hot. The temp in ss is after it started down. 40c@1.4 and it scales big time. I was at 48@1.5 for the first ss. I thought I didn't have the hs seated right so I took it off. That is when the memory slot went bad.

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/413/14429521mp.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14429521mp.jpg)

[Absolute_0]

SP32M at 2.95 Ghz on air with 1.40 volts... keep it coming!

[AgentVX]

What boards/BIOSes were you guys using and did the system boot with no problem when you first put the Opteron in?

[dogsx2]

What boards/BIOSes were you guys using and did the system boot with no problem when you first put the Opteron in?

I'm using 702-03 and there is no problem booting.

[gundamit]

Could't wait for tommorow. Re-mounted the water block but didn't see much improvement. But enough to try 3ghz run. Wonder if this CPU is a good candidate for IHS removal. Saw 51c pop up for a bit on the 32M run. Not good.

Later this week I'll try air and on the weekend I'll break out the Prommie for more testing ... if I haven't broken it by then. Lol.

Also need to figure out what the story is on the types of memory this thing will take.

My initial impressions of this CPU are very positive except for the temps. A bit of a "holy grail" for me to be at 3ghz on water. :woot:

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2610/334x95yh.png

[ozzimark]

My initial impressions are that this CPU very positive except for the temps
yeah, mine runs pretty hot too.. just remounted the waterblock thinking i might have made a mistake, contact looked decent, though with a new install, load temps are around 1c lower.. it should drop over the next day or so.

also, CABNE 0530APMW seems to be the same exact code as everyone else with a s939 opteron so far. :toast:

[Absolute_0]

^^ I guess this answers my question, they're all week 30 APMW

Just wait, i will order and get week 31 and it will top out at 2.7 on my h20 :nono:

[njkid32]

Where did you guys get these things? I want one! Are they out already cuz I checked Fry's already and they dont have any.

Very nice oc's guys!!

[dogsx2]

Where did you guys get these things? I want one! Are they out already cuz I checked Fry's already and they dont have any.

Very nice oc's guys!!

I sold my x2, it didn't seem as much fun oc'ing it as a single core. I think they as great but not for me. These first(because they may end up like all the rest) 144's really clock but run hot. I can't believe they are just a sd core. I ran my sd3700 at 2900@1.6 and it was the alittle cooler then this at 1.4.

[VulgarHandle]

i want someone to pop the ihs off, and see if there happens to be an 's' on it like some fx's we've seen, just outta curiosity

[Vapor]

That's a very good question VH :D

[gundamit]

Where did you guys get these things? I want one! Are they out already cuz I checked Fry's already and they dont have any.

Very nice oc's guys!! Thanks. Wish I had more time to tweak during the weekdays. I'll try to do as much as I can but I expect by Wednesday they'll be another big group testing the same CPU and much more info available. If you read through the threads you can see who we're getting the CPUs from. Apparently he's swamped with orders now so I'm not sure if he wants the source advertised openly.

@dogsx2 - Rumor has it you have a 146 on the way. Do you have another board to test on?


i want someone to pop the ihs off, and see if there happens to be an 's' on it like some fx's we've seen, just outta curiosity As hot as they're running, someone will take a blade to it soon I'm sure. So what would the "S" be an indication of?

[dogsx2]

Thanks. Wish I had more time to tweak during the weekdays. I'll try to do as much as I can but I expect by Wednesday they'll be another big group testing the same CPU and much more info available. If you read through the threads you can see who we're getting the CPUs from. Apparently he's swamped with orders now so I'm not sure if he wants the source advertised openly.

@dogsx2 - Rumor has it you have a 146 on the way. Do you have another board to test on?

No, not sure what I'm going to do. Yes, i have a 146 coming this week. If Team Japan is any indication of how it will do, it looks like about the same as the 144.

Good job on the 3000MHz.

[dogsx2]

Still on single channel but can't quit playing with it.

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/3060/14430air3xi.th.jpg (http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14430air3xi.jpg)

[gundamit]

@dogsx2 - I'm guessing the 3ghz 32M SuperPi stable club will be growing pretty big by Wednesday. Congratulations on that mark on air! I have a Thermaltake Typhoon I'm going to use to try to do the same.

I have a 146 coming too. I thought I might need it if I had a problem with the HTT crapping out too low. Doesn't look like that'll be a problem now though.

[dogsx2]

@dogsx2 - I'm guessing the 3ghz 32M SuperPi stable club will be growing pretty big by Wednesday. Congratulations on that mark on air! I have a Thermaltake Typhoon I'm going to use to try to do the same.

I have a 146 coming too. I thought I might need it if I had a problem with the HTT crapping out too low. Doesn't look like that'll be a problem now though.

I did the same thing, I figured between the two of them, one should be OK. I also bought a BT for the x2 but with a s cat fan on my Hyper 6,not much diff. I hate to buy another board with all the new ones coming out soon but will have to rma this one and don't have another.

I think this should put to rest the thought that the opertons 939's are just a sd .

[gundamit]

I think this should put to rest the thought that the opertons 939's are just a sd . Once we get a look a Optys outside of the initial production weeks we'll really be able to see if they can separate themselves from their SD brothers. In the meantime we need to push on the memory controllers (more bandwidth) to see if we can get FX owners to flinch just a little. :D

[ozzimark]

I'm guessing the 3ghz 32M SuperPi stable club will be growing pretty big by Wednesday.
i'm wondering if my mobo is lame.. and that's why my results are so much slower than you guys :stick:

[gundamit]

Did you ever move off your stock cooling? dogsx2 has some pretty good air going. I'm on water. Might be the CPU (luck of the draw) since I think we had a little less voltage for the same clock speeds than your chart indicated. Still, way too early in the testing to draw any conclusions. When we have the next batch in the hands of more users, the truth shall be revealed.

[ozzimark]

yeah, i'm using water right now. takes about 1.6v to get 2942mhz sPI 1m stable, where as you guys are doing 3ghz with 1.4-1.5v

it could be that i simply have a bunk core too.

[mongoled]

yeah, i'm using water right now. takes about 1.6v to get 2942mhz sPI 1m stable, where as you guys are doing 3ghz with 1.4-1.5v

it could be that i simply have a bunk core too.

Looks like u gonna have to test tht chip on another mobo 4 sure, you know anybody who can test it for you? Cos u got a new mthbrd also (i think i remember u sayin it was new) you dont know how tht mthbrd performs.

Im sure i dont need to mention this but I will, LOL :) try to take pieces out of the equation, i leave my explanation at tht,

heheheee

[jinu117]

Put it on dual channel guys... you will see nice temp increase -_-;
Now put it on 2x1gb dual channel you will see even nicer temp increase... -_-;
something I found on these x2 chips last week.

[ozzimark]

Cos u got a new mthbrd also (i think i remember u sayin it was new) you dont know how tht mthbrd performs.
my thoughts exactly. i'm gonna try to get another one just to find out for sure :toast:

[Ref]

Can't wait for dual core 939 Opterons ! :eek: :slobber:

[VulgarHandle]

yes, something about dual 3.0 on air that gets your heart warm

[Vapor]

I can wait...preliminary indications show them costing a fortune. I'm sure they'll OC very well though.

I'm more interested in the 154....:slobber:

[LORD]

Nice results! :toast: Keep em comin'

[asianguy80]

I'll have my 146 tomorrow. Maybe i'll test it out on my neo4 platinum :banana:

[gundamit]

Dang. Wish I had more time to play with this thing right now! I tried to go straight to 3.1ghz but it ain't happening. The speed/voltage scaling seems true to the Ozzi article. I might be near the end of the OC trail on this CPU without better cooling. The memory speed is still low enough that I don't think its holding things up. I wonder if this CPU will play nice with my old school BH-5 and my 2x1gig Patriot set.

http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/886/338x94pf.png

Any one else scheduled to get their CPUs today?

@dogsx2 - Maybe you can get a database going in the original post that'll start to list the CPUs tested. Thats the kind of thing I think the mods looks for when they decide whether something is stickied. Maybe that and numbner of views.

[njkid32]

OK thats it I am getting one! Heading to Fry's after work to see if they have them yet!

[afireinside]

UGH it sucks to sit here and see this. I wish I could have ordered it from a shop with 2 day shipping and be playing tomorrow instead of waiting till friday/saturday to get it from vandi :(

With my luck I'll need direct 115v from an outlet to get 3.2ghz :p:

[Vapor]

Same boat as you AFI....but then I'll have the whole freakin weekend to play! Only to be interrupted by dancing class....ugh.

[4rory]

What is the differnce between the oppties and the sandieagos? I read there the same core, then what the point of buying one over a sd? Are they cheaper can they do something the sd cant or vise versa?

BTW dogsx2 do you happen to have a 2405fpw? :D those pics fit my screen perfect it seems. 1920*1200.

[Vapor]

These seem to have been tested differently....

[ozzimark]

The speed/voltage scaling seems true to the Ozzi article.
how does your scale anyhow.. i presume how mine did, plus ~300mhz :p:

4rory, stock speed on the 144 is 1.8ghz.. it's the same price as a 3000+. this is why they're so attractive :D

[Jeroen]

gundamit:
What type of memory are you using? Is TCCD/UTT problematic with Opteron?

[afireinside]

Same boat as you AFI....but then I'll have the whole freakin weekend to play! Only to be interrupted by dancing class....ugh.

Yeah... Got a 5 day weekend! And I can't get dry ice until the weekend anyway. But I still want to test on water. Anyone take IHS off of one yet? Mine will be naked as soon as it leaves the box :D

[Absolute_0]

What load temps are we seeing with SP2004 running for hours? Do they seem to be very temp limited? Who's gonna remove the IHS first? :)

[Vapor]

Yeah... Got a 5 day weekend! And I can't get dry ice until the weekend anyway. But I still want to test on water. Anyone take IHS off of one yet? Mine will be naked as soon as it leaves the box :DGood deal...you'll beat me to the DI by about a month, LOL. Anyway, I just realized I don't have any AS5 :stick:

Emergency order from the Egg.....here I come! (maybe frozenCPU, my radiator needs some new fans)

[afireinside]

What load temps are we seeing with SP2004 running for hours? Do they seem to be very temp limited? Who's gonna remove the IHS first? :)


Either me or Jason :D

Go get 2x 22g arctic ceramique tubes from jabtech like I did and never run out of grease again!

[4rory]

Meh don't take of the ihs just to see if it has an s, after all even my +3200 venice had the s.

Man 1meg chache for the price of a +3000 and they overclock great... do they have the multi's unlocked in the downware also?

[gundamit]

Only to be interrupted by dancing class....ugh. Like square dancing or something?


What type of memory are you using? Is TCCD/UTT problematic with Opteron? Just some Hynix I had laying around. I wasn't picky because I was planning to start with with memory at a safe/sane speed so it didn't get in the way of the CPU.


how does your scale anyhow.. i presume how mine did, plus ~300mhz I first gave it a little bump on the volts right at 2.7ghz then took a jump straight to 3ghz and just under 1.5v. No stops inbetween so I'm kinda guessing at the middle part. ;)

[dogsx2]

What is the differnce between the oppties and the sandieagos? I read there the same core, then what the point of buying one over a sd? Are they cheaper can they do something the sd cant or vise versa?

BTW dogsx2 do you happen to have a 2405fpw? :D those pics fit my screen perfect it seems. 1920*1200.

Nope, hp f2304. Big screen is great :D

[Vapor]

Like square dancing or something?Ballroom--it's pretty sweet actually.

As for the AS5....my mom found the tube I left at home and is sending it out ASAP :D This is the fourth time I've asked though (she keeps sending me stuff and it never has the AS5 in it) :stick:

[gundamit]

This CPU is such a tease. Maybe if I sneak up on 3.1ghz ...

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/407/340x99xa.png

Gaaaah! Have to stop now. Maybe later tonight I can sneak in a few minutes.

[dogsx2]

4rory, stock speed on the 144 is 1.8ghz.. it's the same price as a 3000+. this is why they're so attractive :D

Wrong, there attractive because they can do 2900+ MHz. If they were $250 I'd stiil buy one.

[Vapor]

That's freakin sweet gundamit! I'm going to assume stock cooling, am I right? :D

[ozzimark]

Wrong, there attractive because they can do 2900+ MHz. If they were $250 I'd stiil buy one.
not in my case, but i might be an exception.. or there might be other variables going on. we'll see what the deal is

edit: well actually.. i can to +2.9ghz, just not really stable

[VulgarHandle]

3.065 32m pi, :slobber:

[Vapor]

I'm betting it's your board, CF....

[ozzimark]

I'm betting it's your board, CF....
we'll see on that. my bank account is hating on me, but i'll figure it out :toast:

[Vapor]

Yeah, my bank account is hating on me too, but I need just a few more things before I settle down :D

[4rory]

I just checked out my local shops website and they have a 144 and a 244 for sale the 144 is $259 and the 244 is $239.are they the same expect the 244 can be used in a 2 cpu setup.

Do they overclock the same?

[Vapor]

They are not the same dude...no such thing as an S939 244 :stick:

[4rory]

I c yes all the opttys on there site are 940, missed that cuz it was a subcategory under amd 939/940.

[slimais]

3Ghz on air... its more then nice :D
can`t wait for my Optie146, ordered them today... i will get my hands on 3x 146 Opties and torture them all under VapoLS... :rolleyes:

[Vapor]

And you paid less than what you would for an FX....smart move (that and you can make some of it back :D).

[computersmsa]

Edit : "robberbaron" ?

[ozzimark]

Thought his 144 was topic, you were the one that listed him as getting one.
are you sure it wasn't me? he is a pretty good friend of mine. vandi got two opterons initially, mine and baron's. i haven't asked where that opteron is at recently though

[computersmsa]

Thought his 144 was topic, you were the one that listed him as getting one.
I don't understand who is robberbaron and why you answer me about him ? :confused:

[dogsx2]

I don't understand who is robberbaron and why you answer me about him ? :confused:

I was wrong, mongled said robberbaron was getting a 144 and you used the post as a quote. I remembered the cat and the robberbaron and thought you had posted it(teach me to get my facts straight). Sorry

[gundamit]

That's freakin sweet gundamit! I'm going to assume stock cooling, am I right? :D Nope. I'm on water. But I think you can see from the volts I'm running someone with good air could see 3ghz like dogsx2.

Looks like I'm hitting a wall where >1.52v doesn't really net me more speed. While I'm scratching my head over that, I decided to start testing some memory to to knock down some rumors of the Opty being picky. I'm starting with my TCCD.

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/1773/334x9910div4wn.png

Temps aren't topping out as high today. Maybe ambient temps are down and the block is settling.

Tommorow old school BH-5.

Speaking of tommorow ... I sure everyone and their mother will start posting their results. Sure would be nice if we could do one stop shoping for info on the Opty in a single thread. Yes. That is a hint. Anyone up to maintaining a database of results and a thread that might be sticky bound?

[VulgarHandle]

1.472v Spi 32m stable @ 3.006, yup, i'd say 3g on air is more than possible, good enough air, maybe 3.1, 3.2 w/ a noisy fan :D

very very very nice to see all these results, i'll be behind everyone, as i'm not ordering for 3 more weeks :( , hope if the steppings change they're just as good(or maybe i can just beg my wife to let me order as soon as monarch drops em next week)

[ianocean]

Is the multiplier locked?

[dinos22]

oh man. i'm gonna order another chip now...this is farking awesome :clap: :clap: :woot: :woot: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

[eva2000]

LOL dinos :)

yeah i have opteron 144s and 146s on preorder just to play with.... my FX-57 is still my baby though :D

[mongoled]

LOL dinos :)

yeah i have opteron 144s and 146s on preorder just to play with.... my FX-57 is still my baby though :D

Wht if your 144 and 146 were re-badged FX's would they be your babies also? Heheheeee

:)

[asianguy80]

Nope. I'm on water. But I think you can see from the volts I'm running someone with good air could see 3ghz like dogsx2.

Looks like I'm hitting a wall where >1.52v doesn't really net me more speed. While I'm scratching my head over that, I decided to start testing some memory to to knock down some rumors of the Opty being picky. I'm starting with my TCCD.

**snipped image**

Temps aren't topping out as high today. Maybe ambient temps are down and the block is settling.

Tommorow old school BH-5.

Speaking of tommorow ... I sure everyone and their mother will start posting their results. Sure would be nice if we could do one stop shoping for info on the Opty in a single thread. Yes. That is a hint. Anyone up to maintaining a database of results and a thread that might be sticky bound?

What kind of TCCD were you using with this test and on was it on BP 808?

[gundamit]

What kind of TCCD were you using with this test and on was it on BP 808? Its the OCZ Plat rev.2 in my sig. I think thats BP PCB. The Hynix I was testing with earlier was 808.

Glad to see Eva2000 has some of the Opties on the way. Not sure we'll see any new wrinkles in the memory controller but if there are any, he'll figure them out.

[dinos22]

Its the OCZ Plat rev.2 in my sig. I think thats BP PCB. The Hynix I was testing with earlier was 808.

Glad to see Eva2000 has some of the Opties on the way. Not sure we'll see any new wrinkles in the memory controller but if there are any, he'll figure them out.
that's for sure....he can be a bit slow...cause of all those goodies he's been playing with lately hehehehehhe

[fareastgq]

damn, I really want one now....... I've only had this 4400 for 2 weeks, hehehehehe. Well, time to sell sell sell...

[xenolith]

Is the multiplier locked?

:stick:

[ozzimark]

:stick:
read: no :D

[mongoled]

Is the multiplier locked?

Ela filoui

:)

The multi is locked in exactly the same way it is locked on A64 CPU's, only upwards. Access to lower multipliers is fully available, this is my understading of the situation.

[gundamit]

My old Mushkin BH-5 seems to like the Opty just fine too. I just set the major timings and everthing else to auto. I'm pretty sure with a little tweaking the BH-5 would edge out the TCCD on the Pi run at the same speeds. No time for that. Need to see if there is an OC penalty when running 2x1gig sticks. I'll post that tommorow.

http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/6752/334x934div8qe.png

[njkid32]

Has anyone put one of these under phase? I am hoping to get mine by the end of next week! I'll clock the hell out of it under my newley modded mach1 and 1:1 with my patriots. I hope lol!

[xenolith]

My old Mushkin BH-5 seems to like the Opty just fine too. I just set the major timings and everthing else to auto. I'm pretty sure with a little tweaking the BH-5 would edge out the TCCD on the Pi run at the same speeds. No time for that. Need to see if there is an OC penalty when running 2x1gig sticks. I'll post that tommorow.

http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/6752/334x934div8qe.png

:woot: :banana: :toast: That was my only major concern. I'll be getting one ASAP now.

[gundamit]

Has anyone put one of these under phase? I am hoping to get mine by the end of next week! I'll clock the hell out of it under my newley modded mach1 and 1:1 with my patriots. I hope lol! Hopefully I'll be breaking down my game rig this weekend to get at my Prommie so i can try one of these CPUs at sub zero. I'd be happy with just another 200mhz.

[njkid32]

Hopefully I'll be breaking down my game rig this weekend to get at my Prommie so i can try one of these CPUs at sub zero. I'd be happy with just another 200mhz.

COOL I'll really look forward to your oc. Man I'll be gone all weekend so I wont be able to see anything till I get home. Heading to vegas to see chilly1 :banana: and hitting the tables. So I wont be home till Sunday. Hope to see what that chip has in it!!!

[afireinside]

My old Mushkin BH-5 seems to like the Opty just fine too. I just set the major timings and everthing else to auto. I'm pretty sure with a little tweaking the BH-5 would edge out the TCCD on the Pi run at the same speeds. No time for that. Need to see if there is an OC penalty when running 2x1gig sticks. I'll post that tommorow.

http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/6752/334x934div8qe.png


10ns async 9 perable 2-2-2-6 TRC 14 !?!?! Sorry but those timings SUCK. BH5 can run way tighter timings than those. If you can't run better than opteron sucks with BH5 or you have the worst ram ever.

[Absolute_0]

Dude, the important timings are 2-2-2-6, and most important is that the Opteron is playing nice with the BH-5.

[gundamit]

10ns async 9 perable 2-2-2-6 TRC 14 !?!?! Sorry but those timings SUCK. BH5 can run way tighter timings than those. If you can't run better than opteron sucks with BH5 or you have the worst ram ever. Me hangs my head in shame. Lol. :rolleyes: That was just a quick and dirty look. Relax. This is an Opty thread.

[xenolith]

10ns async 9 perable 2-2-2-6 TRC 14 !?!?! Sorry but those timings SUCK. BH5 can run way tighter timings than those. If you can't run better than opteron sucks with BH5 or you have the worst ram ever.

Don't listen to him gundamit, those are very good timings.

afireinside, you probably still think 1T CPC is a critical timing with this CPU too. :ROTF:

[gundamit]

Maybe this will calm him down a little. Yes. Yes. Still not the tightest possible. Can't believe I gave up quality time with my Patriots for this. :slap:

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5643/334x934divtighter5fa.png

BTW - I don't think this CPU will have any issues with memory. Look to your mobo if you're having trouble. This should be like most SDs only faster and hotter at lower volts. Maybe like FX-57 with mild Down Syndrome.

[xenolith]

Great, you gained 2% in Everest. :rolleyes: In real-world apps that tweak would amount to zero, nothing, nada, zilch.

Now get back to work on things that matter, gundamit. :p:

[Hugo van Dijk]

Where can you get these :slobber: :slobber:

[xenolith]

Monarch might have them by next week. You could also PM Vandi423.

[afireinside]

Don't listen to him gundamit, those are very good timings.

afireinside, you probably still think 1T CPC is a critical timing with this CPU too. :ROTF:

It is. Whats the point of pushing the chip to the limits if your ram blows? If we weren't concerned about benching you would be better off grabbing 2 gigs of value ram, a 3800+ x2, jacking the clocks up to 2.5ghz or so, and calling it a day.

Thanks gundamit! Preamble is still a bit low though. Teamjapan said that you need a higher preamble to get max clocks. Thats what I'm worried about but other than that it looks good :)

[ozzimark]

you changed your avatar AFI! :p:

i think what's trying to be said is that the timings really don't make that much of a difference. maybe if you're trying to break records, that's an area where i'll take everything i can get, but otherwise it's simply not important :)

but back on topic, we should make a list of the oc's in the first post.. or make an official thread :D

[xenolith]

It is. Whats the point of pushing the chip to the limits if your ram blows? If we weren't concerned about benching you would be better off grabbing 2 gigs of value ram, a 3800+ x2, jacking the clocks up to 2.5ghz or so, and calling it a day.

I couldn't care less about "benching." What does synth-benching do for anyone other than give them bragging rights. And I imagine I'm in the vast majority with this opinion.

Real-world performance, that's what most people, even the more xtreme members here, want out of their o/c'ing efforts.

[dogsx2]

Wow, you been a busy boy while I was at work. Good job. Got anymore ram you can test? The 144 I got will go to 3050 but I think my mb is going bad besides the ram slot. I hate to buy another DFI with the new DFI boards coming out soon, have you heard when? Will have to get something to soon, hate to be on the sidelines.

I don't think on air your going to go much past 3100MHz unless you have a really good set of earplugs and a really cold room. Am looking forward to you putting yours on some real cooling. Keep up the good ground work.

[groovetek]

Thanks gundamit! Preamble is still a bit low though. Teamjapan said that you need a higher preamble to get max clocks. Thats what I'm worried about but other than that it looks good :)

Does this apply to all 939 chips? Well, with higher preamble you don't exactly lose much performance - I'm sure increased CPU mhz, if attainable, would easily outweigh any negligible performance hit of higher preamble...

[dogsx2]

I can't see how anyone could use the stock cooler that came in the retail box to oc very much. It is sure a cheap thing. Even after a few days at 1.4v under load it runs 42c with pretty good air.

I see your board will run 400, have you dropped the x and tried that route?

[dinos22]

Does this apply to all 939 chips? Well, with higher preamble you don't exactly lose much performance - I'm sure increased CPU mhz, if attainable, would easily outweigh any negligible performance hit of higher preamble...
PRTeamJapan was specifically talking about this Opteron.....so does anyone have actual figures of performance impact? I know that CPC to 2T loses roughly 2-3% in performance

[ozzimark]

I can't see how anyone could use the stock cooler that came in the retail box to oc very much. It is sure a cheap thing. Even after a few days at 1.4v under load it runs 42c with pretty good air.

I see your board will run 400, have you dropped the x and tried that route?
i should try that, just in case something is hating on the 9x multi for some reason. 400x8 = 3200mhz, more than enough headroom

[afireinside]

PRTeamJapan was specifically talking about this Opteron.....so does anyone have actual figures of performance impact? I know that CPC to 2T loses roughly 2-3% in performance

3% will make or break a record... Last I checked, xtremesystems was about pushing your hardware to the limits, not setteling with mediocrity because it's fast enough for daily useage.

Yeah, I changed my avatar! The other one was ghey but I'm lazy :p: I look 200% more professional with an expensive thermometer in my avatar :D

[Absolute_0]

Oh noes his ram didn't break a record when his intent was solely to test an Opteron processor for compatability with BH-5.... can we get back to overclocking?

[asianguy80]

I just got my opty 146 from vandi this morning...omg the ride there was CRAZY traffic but WELL worth it I only have pics of the chip right now and it's going in the machine soon! will have some results later tonight. anyways here is the teaser for you guys

It's not going into the shuttle:nono: i dont think it can handle 300+HTT so its going in a spare neo4 plat/nonsli using my gskill LE :cool:

oh yea it's the magic stepping of CABNE 0530 APMW

http://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/opteron146.jpg (http://www.supload.com/free/opteron146.jpg/view/)http://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/opteron146-1.jpg (http://www.supload.com/free/opteron146-1.jpg/view/)http://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/opteron146-2.jpg (http://www.supload.com/free/opteron146-2.jpg/view/)

[afireinside]

Oh noes his ram didn't break a record when his intent was solely to test an Opteron processor for compatability with BH-5.... can we get back to overclocking?

TeamJapan already said it works fine. They DID say that a higher preamble is needed. Thats what needs testing.

Hopefully USPS does their job and I get my CPU tomorrow. I'll find out how well BH5 actually works on them and show you guys a neekid 146 :banana:

[ZoKi]

be sure to keep us update asianguy80 on ur results :D

[dinos22]

AFI take it easy man......I'm sure these issues will be ironed out.......DFI will need to optimise the bios a bit too I'm sure

[afireinside]

I'm not trying to be a jerk but team japan said that you need to run a higher preamble to reach max stable clocks on bh5 with an opteron. Is it to much to ask for someone with an opteron and BH5 to to test it out?

[dinos22]

I'm not trying to be a jerk but team japan said that you need to run a higher preamble to reach max stable clocks on bh5 with an opteron. Is it to much to ask for someone with an opteron and BH5 to to test it out?^^^^^^^I'd like to know what he's asking ^^^^^^^^

[dogsx2]

I just got my opty 146 from vandi this morning...omg the ride there was CRAZY traffic but WELL worth it I only have pics of the chip right now and it's going in the machine soon! will have some results later tonight. anyways here is the teaser for you guys

It's not going into the shuttle:nono: i dont think it can handle 300+HTT so its going in a spare neo4 plat/nonsli using my gskill LE :cool:

oh yea it's the magic stepping of CABNE 0530 APMW

http://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/opteron146.jpg (http://www.supload.com/free/opteron146.jpg/view/)http://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/opteron146-1.jpg (http://www.supload.com/free/opteron146-1.jpg/view/)http://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/opteron146-2.jpg (http://www.supload.com/free/opteron146-2.jpg/view/)

Crank the bugger up and lets see what it will do. How high will a neo go?

[ozzimark]

Is it to much to ask for someone with an opteron and BH5 to to test it out?
i tried 6.0ns.. no boot :stick:

[afireinside]

^^^^^^^I'd like to know what he's asking ^^^^^^^^


Can I make it any easier to understand?

TEAM JAPAN TESTED AN OPTERON WITH BH5. THEY SAID THAT BH5 REQUIRES A HIGHER PREAMBLE TIME TO REACH MAX STABLE CLOCK SPEEDS THAN IT DOES ON A DESKTOP A64. It would be nice if someone could prove/disprove this statement by testing it. If you have BH5 and an opteron I'm sure you've maxed the BH5s clocks using a desktop A64 chip. It would take all of 5 minutes to boot your max clocks with the tightest preamble you had before and see if it works.

Thank you ozzi, thats all I wanted to know :)

[dinos22]

i tried 6.0ns.. no boot :stick:
with BH5?

[dogsx2]

I'm not trying to be a jerk but team japan said that you need to run a higher preamble to reach max stable clocks on bh5 with an opteron. Is it to much to ask for someone with an opteron and BH5 to to test it out?

Nope, I think a guy with a 146 is going to do it tomorrow.

[goodcooper]

holy crap man tone it down a bit, i'm just as eager to see as you, just hold the friggin fone a second

you may be interested in that, but i got 4400LCs and the rumor is that certain brainpowers don't work right withum, but i'm just going to take it easy until these things are widely available

[ozzimark]

with BH5?
yes. i'll try again just to verify :toast:

the one problem, i need a lot more voltage to oc my bh-5 with this board. on the dfi nf3, 275mhz was doable with 3.5v, now i need 3.67v for 273mhz :confused: :stick:
either way, i'll be back in a bit with a second word to make sure i didn't do something stupid the first time

[afireinside]

NF3=single channel NF4-dual channel ;)

[dogsx2]

NF3=single channel NF4-dual channel ;)

:confused:

[afireinside]

His previous OC was done in single channel while his new setup is dual channel. Running in DC will require higher voltage to achieve the same clocks.

[ozzimark]

His previous OC was done in single channel while his new setup is dual channel. Running in DC will require higher voltage to achieve the same clocks.
almost correct. i did not forsee switching to s939, thus one of my two bh-5 sticks is still at home in my parents computer. both results are single channel

with 3.26v and 260mhz in the yellow slot to give a few errors per memtest #5 pass, but not a lot. not the most scientific way, i tested each two times


Preamble Test 1 Test2
4.0ns = 48 errors 76 errors
4.5ns = 55 errors 71 errors
5.0ns = 54 errors 69 errors
5.5ns = 33 errors 35 errors
6.0ns = 54 errors 81 errors - tried a third time, memtest crashed
6.5ns = 44 errors 77 errors
7.0ns = no boot no boot


sorry about that, i lied. won't boot with 7.0ns.. though it seems that 6 isn't exactly reliable :stick:
either way though, seems like 5.5ns is the best in this case

[afireinside]

Lower works better? Ok I'm really confused now.

BTW use orange slots for BH5 :)

[ozzimark]

BTW use orange slots for BH5 :)
trying. this board is somewhat new to me :p:


also, the defintion of read preamble..



The Read Preamble time is a function of the asynchronous round trip loop latency, the clock
frequency, DIMM type and process type. These settings are initial recommendations only. They can
be adjusted to compensate for signal integrity issues, bus length mismatches, or any other empirical
data that proves that other settings are more reliable.
check page 172:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/26094.PDF

there's a nice chart. 133mhz = 7.0ns, 166mhz = 6.0ns, 200mhz = 5.0ns. seems to be 1000ns / mhz = read preamble, thus as you scale up the mhz a lower value SHOULD be optimal, but for some reason, other people find the opposite


edit2: the orange slot will have to wait, i've gotta test out the 8x cpu multi first ;)

[afireinside]

interesting... I hope I can test this tomorrow :)

[dogsx2]

Waiting :rolleyes:

[Mats]

Any signs of dual core Opteron results somewhere??

[ozzimark]

i've gotta test out the 8x cpu multi first ;)
no noticable difference. back to ram testing :D

[dinos22]

Any signs of dual core Opteron results somewhere??
my question as well........still looking to find a Dual Core OC results somewhere.....even PRTeamJapan has no results :(

[dogsx2]

my question as well........still looking to find a Dual Core OC results somewhere.....even PRTeamJapan has no results :(

If the dual core operton are like the single, they will run HOT. I had a x2 3800 and when running prime it would hit close to 60c with very good air. This 144 at 1.4 runs as hot as my 3700sd at 1.6.

[Mats]

I had a x2 3800 and when running prime it would hit close to 60c with very good air. This 144 at 1.4 runs as hot as my 3700sd at 1.6.
One or two instances running (http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/amd_x2-3800+/10.shtml) (last graph)?

[dogsx2]

One or two instances running (http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/amd_x2-3800+/10.shtml) (last graph)?

It was a 3800 toledo and ran hot running one and about 60c running two.

[clayton]

Anybody wanna try overclocking the 175?
http://www.onsale.com/onsale/shop/detail.asp?dpno=611522&store=onsale&source=BWBPRICEGRAB&srccode=cii_5784816&cpncode=12-838467-2&adcampaign=email,BWBPRICEGRAB&wt.mc_id=BWBPRICEGRAB
It says call them for stock info, but I got no time for this. Somebody do it for me lol. g2g bye.
________
AROMED VAPORIZER (http://www.vaporshop.com/aromed-vaporizer.html)

[ozzimark]

BTW use orange slots for BH5 :)
with orange slots, same settings as last time.. kinda curious results. i found that a small number of errors normally occured on the first pass, so i recorded the first and second pass.


4.0ns = no memtest
4.5ns = 0 + 73
5.0ns = 2 + 78
5.5ns = 4 + 72
6.0ns = 2 + crash
6.5ns = 10 + 118
7.0ns = 0 + 0
7.5ns = no post

seems that 7.0ns wins in the orange slots. 261mhz acted reaaalll strange though, random dumps in memtest and such

currently oc'ing the opteron with the single sided stick of bh-5, just to see if the ram had any impact in the clocks.

[gundamit]

Just slapped my 2gig set of Patriot Infineon in. No time to tweak. I'll try tommorow. Hoping to go with a 3:4 divider and bring up the memory closer to its potential and get 32M stable.

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/6725/334x934div1lx.png

[asianguy80]

First of all let me explain what mobo/ram i used and what i've done

Specs:
MSI K8N Neo4 Plat/NonSLI
2x512mb G.Skill LE

I was hoping to hit a good HTT with the 10x multi but i couldn't. The voltage options on this mobo aren't that great. If I tried doing 1.4 + 20% (1.680v) the system hard locked and I had to reset the CMOS. The max volt's it would take was 1.4 + 16.6% (1.632v) but in CPUID it reports it as hovering 1.552. Very odd. I don't have a64 tweaker so i can't do a more complex SS. I used ClockGen to OC it by 1mhz increments until superpi crashed or error'd. Temp's were hovering in the 50c's. Least to say I'm not too happy with the results of OC'ing BUT I'm sure that it's the mobo. I see that everyone here is using DFI for OC'ing and they are right for doing so. those mobo's seem to be more stable then my neo4 :slapass:

The following 2 SS's are the max where superpi didn't fail.

This is with the 9x multi at the MAX FSB that I could do without superpi crashing or windows BSOD'ing or the comp just restarting. I used a 180mhz divider on the RAM.
http://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/maxstable.jpg (http://www.supload.com/free/maxstable.jpg/view/)


The max I could do on the 10x multi was 280 1:1 where superpi finished calculations. I didn't use any dividers with this but i'll go back and try it again maybe with a 133 divider and see what happens.
http://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/maxstable2.jpg (http://www.supload.com/free/maxstable2.jpg/view/)

If you guys have any suggestions on what I should do to get a more stable OC then please let me know. Any questions feel free to ask and I'll check back here in about 30 minutes. I'm going to go test out more config's.

[dinos22]

i reckon you should start OCing from lower volts up rather than max down because heat may be killing your OCs

[asianguy80]

I started the cpu @ 250 stock volts 1:1 and it did fine. I guess I'll have to burn in the cpu slowly then (?)

[dinos22]

what cooling are you using because those 52C/54C idle temps are criminal man!!!!!!

[Absolute_0]

50s idle?! Damn man, put some cooling on her!

[asianguy80]

yea 50's were too high. I am using an xp90 w/ 92mm panaflo u1a

well I dropped it to stock volts and slowly worked my way up from 250 in clockgen up to 280 before superpi failed. i then went back into the bios and set it at 280 to boot and superpi'd again and ran prime95 at the same time and tried upping it 1mhz at a time and it failed at loop12 on 281HTT this is all 1:1 here is a screen

http://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/maxstablestock.jpg (http://www.supload.com/free/maxstablestock.jpg/view/)

FX Speed's :woot: with temps @ 35C this time:cool: high volts were kiling my OC :slap:

edit: i'm gonna go take a shower and let it prime a while then try some more. maybe i'll have some luck afterwards

[dinos22]

FX Speed's :woot: with temps @ 35C this time:cool: high volts were kiling my OC :slap:
i reckon you should start OCing from lower volts up rather than max down because heat may be killing your OCs :slap: :woot: another monster :toast: :toast:

[alpha0ne]

If the dual core operton are like the single, they will run HOT. I had a x2 3800 and when running prime it would hit close to 60c with very good air. This 144 at 1.4 runs as hot as my 3700sd at 1.6.

Re your 3800 X2 :

What cooling ("good air" ????) and how high was it clocked to be hitting 60c running 2 instances of prime ??, large or small FFT's ???

The reason I ask is, as per my sig, @ 2.8GHz the most I have been able to heat it up is 48~50c using prime large FFT's

[dogsx2]

Re your 3800 X2 :

What cooling ("good air" ????) and how high was it clocked to be hitting 60c running 2 instances of prime ??, large or small FFT's ???

The reason I ask is, as per my sig, @ 2.8GHz the most I have been able to heat it up is 48~50c using prime large FFT's

Is yours a cd? I was at 2.8. Read post in this thread for cooling. It's gone down the road, now playing with 144.

[dogsx2]

yea 50's were too high. I am using an xp90 w/ 92mm panaflo u1a

well I dropped it to stock volts and slowly worked my way up from 250 in clockgen up to 280 before superpi failed. i then went back into the bios and set it at 280 to boot and superpi'd again and ran prime95 at the same time and tried upping it 1mhz at a time and it failed at loop12 on 281HTT this is all 1:1 here is a screen


FX Speed's :woot: with temps @ 35C this time:cool: high volts were kiling my OC :slap:


High Vcore does not equal high HTT. I think 1.52v is going to be about the top average. I can believe you were in the 50's at 1.68, surprised it didn't die on you. I was mid 40's when I first put it in at 1.5v. I sure hope the 146's do as well as the 144's. It would be nice to run 1:1 on memory.

Good job, keep posting results.

[dogsx2]

Team Japan:

S939 Opteron seems has an excellent tolerance at CPU rated voltage.
On the other hand, I found that any higher Vcore would hardly any help to get higher clockspeed

[gundamit]

Wow, you been a busy boy while I was at work. Good job. Got anymore ram you can test? I have some Adata Hynix and Twinmos CH-UTT and BH-UTT. I might get to them at some point, but since these CPUs are going to find homes in gaming rigs eventually, I'm curious whether the memory controllers can handle 2gigs and hope any OC penalty is small. Seems like only the FX CPUs fly with 2x1gig sticks running flat out. In real world gaming I'm sure 2gig > max overclock.


I hate to buy another DFI with the new DFI boards coming out soon, have you heard when? Will have to get something to soon, hate to be on the sidelines.I'm waiting on the DFI NF4 "Expert" edition and DFI take on the Crossfire mobo. Those may be weeks away so you might have to bite the bullet and get a Ultra-D in the meantime.


I don't think on air your going to go much past 3100MHz unless you have a really good set of earplugs and a really cold room. Am looking forward to you putting yours on some real cooling. Keep up the good ground work. I just hope the 146 clocks as well as my 144. Really looking forward to seeing the before and after temps of Afireinside's Opty after the IHS is removed. My shaky hands and spastic colon won't allow me to consider doing the same. :p:

[dogsx2]

What do you think about this? Says shipping next week.

http://www.tankguys.biz/lanparty-cfdr-p-1404.html

[gundamit]

Nice find. I've been looking for NCIX to list it as a pre-order. Tank Guys don't have a lot of reviews on Resellerratings but all of the are positive. Tempted to place my pre-order now even though DFI versions of new chipsets have always come to market much later than their rivals. I'd be surprised if they actually ship first week of October. Even if it ships on time ... can you wait that long for a mobo?

Edit: Looks like NCIX has it for pre-order as well. $217.37 with free copy of Bet On Soldier - Blood Sport PC DVD-ROM *AMD Promo* for FREE (a $52 value) (http://www.us.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=16281&vpn=LP-UT-RDX200-CF-DR&manufacture=DFI&nocookie=1&membership=0)

[dogsx2]

Nice find. I've been looking for NCIX to list it as a pre-order. Tank Guys don't have a lot of reviews on Resellerratings but all of the are positive. Tempted to place my pre-order now even though DFI versions of new chipsets have always come to market much later than their rivals. I'd be surprised if they actually ship first week of October. Even if it ships on time ... can you wait that long for a mobo?

Your right, just ordered a ultra-d from ne.


Wait a second, I can get a DFI nF4 SLI Infinity for the same money. The reviews I read say they oc pretty good. What do you think?

[gundamit]

Nvidia has made the Chipset on the Ultra-D harder to mod to SLI by puttin enamel over the points that need to be connected, although it can still be done according to what I've read. I've also heard some claim the SLI version gets cherry Nvidia chipset that'll clock higher. My SLI mobo has actually seen higher HTT than my Ultra-D - 370 vs.344 IIRC) so maybe there is something to that rumor.

[mrlobber]

Hm, would be very interesting to know at which temps the coldbug kicks in for these - are they as good as the FX's (read: can run dry-ice temps with a good container (chilly1 or mousepot)) or not (read: experience coldbug at less-than-dry-ice temps, just like several members have had with 4000+ San Diegos). If the first, I'm in for one at all costs:cool:

[gundamit]

No OC penalty going 2x1gig with my Patriot Infineon set. Not going to set anything but the major timings for now. I'll try to see if I can get it below 25 minutes with tweaks later. This CPU is going straight into my gaming rig as soon as testing has completed. Crucial Ballsitix at 300 (334 - 9:10 divider) might be ideal with this CPU.

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2049/334x934div32m3yt.png

[alpha0ne]

OT but those timings for your 2GB kit seem really good @ 250 :clap:

wanna sell em :D

[gundamit]

I think my Infineons at 265 (same timings) are second only to Gaspar's Infineons, but he runs CAS 3. Paid $200 from Outpost so they we're a steal. Sell them? Lol.

Dang. Now I really want the Crucials because they'll hit the sweet spot on this CPU.

[asianguy80]

High Vcore does not equal high HTT. I think 1.52v is going to be about the top average. I can believe you were in the 50's at 1.68, surprised it didn't die on you. I was mid 40's when I first put it in at 1.5v. I sure hope the 146's do as well as the 144's. It would be nice to run 1:1 on memory.

Good job, keep posting results.


do you think I damaged the chip by stupidly going so high on the vcore. I honestly don't know WTF I was thinking ATM. :slap: :slapass: :slap:

[alpha0ne]

do you think I damaged the chip by stupidly going so high on the vcore. I honestly don't know WTF I was thinking ATM. :slap: :slapass: :slap:

A lot depends on how long it was left running at such high Vcore and if it overheated

Your best way to check is to set HTT and Vcore to default and see if it still works OK and then see if your chip will still OC to say ~ 2.4Gig @ default Vcore (which it should on most good chips)

[afireinside]

Ultra-D>infinity

Stupid USPS being slow as usual, no CPU till tomorrow (and if it's not here tomorrow I'll slaughter kittens)

I wish I could have gotten it somewhere other than from vandi because this wait is horrible :(


Hm, would be very interesting to know at which temps the coldbug kicks in for these - are they as good as the FX's (read: can run dry-ice temps with a good container (chilly1 or mousepot)) or not (read: experience coldbug at less-than-dry-ice temps, just like several members have had with 4000+ San Diegos). If the first, I'm in for one at all costs

As soon as Jason, Harley, and I get ours...

[asianguy80]

A lot depends on how long it was left running at such high Vcore and if it overheated

Your best way to check is to set HTT and Vcore to default and see if it still works OK and then see if your chip will still OC to say ~ 2.4Gig @ default Vcore (which it should on most good chips)

It didn't post and i had to reset the cmos. but I have it running now at 280 1:1 at stock volts 1.4. in cpuz it shows as 1.388

[asianguy80]

I wish I could have gotten it somewhere other than from vandi because this wait is horrible :(


I think Vandi is the only one here who can get his hands on 939 opty's the fastest.

[afireinside]

I mean like an actual store having it so I could have it shipped 2 day and not this USPS crap from vandi from AMD...

[gundamit]

I thought Vandi was shipping everthing 2-day USPS. Maybe thats just here in California. The wait is horrible in New Jersey I'm sure. ;)

[asianguy80]

i get what your saying. i'm used to waiting patiently for stuff when i buy other stuff and when i'm all excited about it the wait is killer

[afireinside]

Priority takes 2 days from everywhere BUT cali it seems...

[gundamit]

Had to "cheat" a little by bumping the clock a bit as well as tightening timings to get the Infineons under 25 minutes on 32M SuperPi.

http://tinypic.com/e5mxz9.png

At this clock speed 2x1gig doesn't seem like more than the memory controller can handle. Maybe at higher clocks the load on the controller will start to inhibit the OC (where 2x512 wouldn't) but it looks good at 3ghz. The Winchester in my sig would problems doing the same thing. I'd have to throw bigger dividers and knock down the bandwidth to maintain high clocks, which of couse is not ideal. The OC kings should stick to their FX-57s and leave the Opties to us cheap bastard gamers so we can get the most out of the expensive 2gig sets we're forced to buy for more and more games. ;)

Would love to see someone run their Crucial 2gig set at 300 1:1 to really give the Opties a test.

The best part of this for me is I have a CPU that looks like it'll clock high enough to not bottleneck the SLI 7800GT rig I'm building. Cheap Bastard gamers might look for this deal to come around again. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=74212)

[dogsx2]

Priority takes 2 days from everywhere BUT cali it seems...

LOL, I got my 146 today and don't have a good mb to use.

[socrilles]

How do i get hold of this Vandi guy?

[Absolute_0]

He's a member named Vandi423, you can PM him

[lemonlime]

These chips look awesome so far, anyone know where you can find them in Canada?

[dinos22]

DFI does not and will not support Opteron CPUs......just great :rolleyes:

post by andgrygames
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239673&postcount=18

actual thread
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?p=240331#post240331

well that's disappointing .......very very disappointing :mad:

[afireinside]

EVERYONE is using DFI NF4 lmfao try reading the threads...

DFI doesn't "support" DTR CPUs as well but my 3000+ DTR flys along fine at 2.95ghz under ice water on my DFI NF3...

[dogsx2]

DFI does not and will not support Opteron CPUs......just great :rolleyes:

post by andgrygames
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239673&postcount=18

actual thread
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?p=240331#post240331

well that's disappointing .......very very disappointing :mad:

I sure am glad I didn't read this before I clocked my 144 at 9x334. I'm not sure what your talking about. I used several bios and never had any problems with any of them.

As long as my dfi will work, I don't care what dfi said.

AF, I live in Ga. I guess stuff does roll down hill faster. LOL

[mongoled]

Hey dogsx2,

when do u think this thread is going to be made,

'The Official Opteron Overclocking Thread'?

Hehhee, its sure starting to look like it!

Oh just a side note, is their any particular reason you are RMAing your Opty? Is it faulty, I saw a post where u mention tht it is only running in single channel? Could you tell me who the seller on eBay was? You can RMA the processor through AMD :).

Your nic is '2dogs' over at dfi-street.com

[dinos22]

I sure am glad I didn't read this before I clocked my 144 at 9x334. I'm not sure what your talking about. I used several bios and never had any problems with any of them.

As long as my dfi will work, I don't care what dfi said.

AF, I live in Ga. I guess stuff does roll down hill faster. LOL
there is not official support....so if you have a problem down the line you'll get the big woop.........I'll still be using these Opterons of course as they clearly work in DFI but it would be good if they were further optimised.....

[harleybro]

Priority takes 2 days from everywhere BUT cali it seems...
Took two days for me. ;)
Just air and water tonight LN2 tomorrow. :)
This is a DFI NF4, mushkin redline 4000+ and a XP-120
http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/1808/opty6iw.jpg

[dinos22]

whoa anther good one

is it the same stepping as the others or?

[ozzimark]

there is not official support....so if you have a problem down the line you'll get the big woop.........I'll still be using these Opterons of course as they clearly work in DFI but it would be good if they were further optimised.....
maybe it's time for an asus? :toast: :p:

[afireinside]

Already told you that I hate you harley ;)

Nice clocks... I got 27.4s on my diego at same speed but 273mhz 2*256 bh5. Interlacing+gig must make a big difference.

[dogsx2]

Hey dogsx2,

when do u think this thread is going to be made,

'The Official Opteron Overclocking Thread'?

Hehhee, its sure starting to look like it!

Oh just a side note, is their any particular reason you are RMAing your Opty? Is it faulty, I saw a post where u mention tht it is only running in single channel? Could you tell me who the seller on eBay was? You can RMA the processor through AMD :).


Not rma the 144, rma the mb.

[dinos22]

maybe it's time for an asus? :toast: :p:
i'm sick of changing motherboards....so i'll stay put until Socket M2....I had Asus A8N SLI Deluxe, DFI NF4 UltraD, Abit AN8 Ultra and now this SLI-D....i think my wavemaster gave me official notice it no longer wants to be messed with :slap:

[harleybro]

Already told you that I hate you harley ;)

Nice clocks... I got 27.4s on my diego at same speed but 273mhz 2*256 bh5. Interlacing+gig must make a big difference.
Well havta make the timings a little sloppy still gettin used to the chip. Also am on win2k and by all means not optimized lol

[afireinside]

Well damn I must suck at pi... I was running 273*11 2-2-2-5-7 2*256 BH5 tight timings fresh win xp pro sp2 install diagnostics mode max mem 104 ricky tweak real time explorer closed :stick:

[aicjofs]

I'm confused about the DFI/AMD stuff.

I thought AMD's idea here was to make AMD workstations cheaper by removing the need for Registered ECC memory. Therefore creating a workstation market/low end server market for these chips.

Do the 939s work in 940 boards? Where are the 939's suppose to OFFICIALLY go? Are there 939 server boards as opposed to desktop boards? I did not know this.

[dogsx2]

I was going to wait to try the 146 that came today( thanks Vandi) until my new board came Monday to fill in for this rma board. However, after looking at it for one and a half hours, I gave in. I won't post any ss as I only have single channel.

The long and short of it is it will do 300x10 but at 1.52v. I wouldn't trade my 144 for it(9x334@1.4). Even Team Japan showed less volts with the 144 vs the 146. If I didn't have the 144, I would think the 146 was great. On high air or water I think this stepping of the 144 will most likely do as well as the 146. Who knows what the next stepping will bring.

















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[gundamit]

I did a ton of runs at 290-300mhz 1:1 wiht my 2gig crucial set Gun :) Thanks. Now scrambling to interpret your 1m and Sandra numbers at that clock. :D 1:1 is so damn sexy!

[dinos22]

whoa MM crucial 2GB at DDR600.......i never thought i'd see this :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: have you been able to run them with other CPUs as well at that speed or are we seeing an Opteron memory controller in awesome action...in any case this is remarkable stuff

[ozzimark]

i have reason to believe that the memory controller on these opterons are pretty good. i have a stick of ballistix that used to top out at like 250mhz with 2.5-2-2. now with a board that my bh-5 is clocking worse on, the ballistix gained 7mhz :stick:

[gundamit]

I was going to wait to try the 146 that came today( thanks Vandi) until my new board came Monday to fill in for this rma board. However, after looking at it for one and a half hours, I gave in. I won't post any ss as I only have single channel. Don't they have a Fry's where you live? Just grab an Ultra-D and hang on to your receipt.

No reason the 146 should clock better than the 144. Just luck of the draw as usual. Hard to justify the extra expense just to get the flex of a 10 multi, but still a good deal.

Barely scratched the surface of what the 939 Opterons will do but I think this thread need a FAQ and an OC summary in post one if you want to go for stickification. :stick:

[dinos22]

I think this thread need a FAQ and an OC summary in post one if you want to go for stickification. :stick:agree :)

[VulgarHandle]

or a new thread w/ the faq, and strict rules on posts limited to results w/ screens only(total machine specs would be nice too)

[gundamit]

or a new thread w/ the faq, and strict rules on posts limited to results w/ screens only(total machine specs would be nice too) We need an XS member with a a lot of time, too much energy and an anal retentive personality to police the new thread. So we only have half the XS membership who really qualify as candidates for owner/operator of the proposed thread. :D

Oh yes, we also need 939 in the title because I think the threads were overlooked by a lot of members who were wondering who the kooks were who were playing with server CPUs.

[ozzimark]

i fail on the anal rententive personality bit :( :p:

[gundamit]

i fail on the anal rententive personality bit :( :p: My spastic colon disqualifies me as well.

[VulgarHandle]

and change this thread to the "Official Opteron 939 Discussion Thread"

[dinos22]

It doesn't like over 2.8v really, but I can do 8m's all day at 305mhz 1:1 3-3-3-8-1t :)
no time for 32m's ATM, but tommorw when its cool "72f", lol cool for florida Ill do a ton more runs. :)
or just crank up your AirCon like the Japs did heheheheh

[dinos22]

lol central air is good but its hard to get it cold cold. I turn it down to 55f at night at 7pm and it takes untill 3-4am to get down to 67f, lol

at 7pm its about 74f from the hot air from the daytime thats built up.
feels awefully similar in summer to I place i know heheheh....gets stupid in Sydney as well so i know what you mean.....

[VulgarHandle]

cover the windows, blanket the walls, and close off vents to un-used rooms(or if all rooms are used, make a sacrifce or 2)

hahahahaha

ahh screw it, pop off the vent, slide that mobo in :D

[b0bd0le]

what's the best ram to use for these optys?

[aicjofs]

My contribution

144 CABNE 0530APMW on MSI Neo4 Plat SLI

Avg cooling, slow mem speed and timings. Not bad for first hour out the box.

http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/144.jpg

[dinos22]

have you tested that board for max HTT.......just in case it was holding you back for higher OC

try 32M run as well there....looking very good once again congrats :toast:

[eva2000]

lol central air is good but its hard to get it cold cold. I turn it down to 55f at night at 7pm and it takes untill 3-4am to get down to 67f, lol

at 7pm its about 74f from the hot air from the daytime thats built up.welcome to my world of ambient room temps - just i don't have air con LOL :D

but looking good so far there mate :D

[robberbaron]

Here's my sweetspot on an XP-90C w/ Panaflo L1B

http://img298.imageshack.us/img298/5403/32m3ta.th.jpg (http://img298.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32m3ta.jpg)

[gundamit]

My contribution

144 CABNE 0530APMW on MSI Neo4 Plat SLI

Avg cooling, slow mem speed and timings. Not bad for first hour out the box.

http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/144.jpgGreat stuff. The MSI doesn't need a lot of volts to give the core to reach its potential. I don't think I've ever seen a MaxTCase higher than 65c before except for the X2s. So maybe these CPUs were meant to run hot. High MaxTCase for single cores usually associated with great OCs. So far the Opties maintain that pattern.

Please post your MaxTCase results here as well. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=71044) I'll post mine in the morning.

[xxmartin]

I am wondering why I have seen not even one Prime95 stability test on the 1xx Opterons? All that 1M, 8M and 32M stuff is just worth nothing.

Once, I got a SanDiego that could 1M up to 3100 MHz but primed only up to 2900 MHz. So just stop those 1M postings - they don't tell anything.

Lateste Prime95 v24.14 can be picked up here:
http://www.mersenne.org/gimps/p95v2414.zip

Do some 2-3h prime runs with those "freaking" Opterons and I am sure we will see more realistic OC's.

[mongoled]

I am wondering why I have seen not even one Prime95 stability test on the 1xx Opterons? All that 1M, 8M and 32M stuff is just worth nothing.

Once, I got a SanDiego that could 1M up to 3100 MHz but primed only up to 2900 MHz. So just stop those 1M postings - they don't tell anything.

Lateste Prime95 v24.14 can be picked up here:
http://www.mersenne.org/gimps/p95v2414.zip

Do some 2-3h prime runs with those "freaking" Opterons and I am sure we will see more realistic OC's.

I think its because evryone is too busy playing and tweaking ;), give it a few days and you will see the 'real' overclocks.

[xxmartin]

I think its because evryone is too busy playing and tweaking ;), give it a few days and you will see the 'real' overclocks.
I don't think so. Posting Prime95 would stop the hype, I guess ... :rolleyes:

Have a look here:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=160018

2700 MHz @ 1.55V with Prime95 and one of those 3.2-GHz-on-(frosty-)air-0530APMW-144-Opterons ... with normal cooling and an average core = nothing to talk about. Just a common SanDiego 3700+ result.

Of course, there may be some really nice 1xx Opterons around doing 2.8-2.9 GHz at Prime but there is the same number of good SanDiegos (3700/4000) around.

[alpha0ne]

I think its because evryone is too busy playing and tweaking ;), give it a few days and you will see the 'real' overclocks.

Agreed, and hopefully with large FFT's, not these pisspoor small FFT's that dont really stress a CPU :)

[AgentVX]

Here's my sweetspot on an XP-90C w/ Panaflo L1B

http://img298.imageshack.us/img298/5403/32m3ta.th.jpg (http://img298.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32m3ta.jpg)

Sweet, that's the kind of result I've been looking for. Awesome clocks, 32M stable, and on good air cooling. :woot:

[ArcTan]

Agreed, and hopefully with large FFT's, not these pisspoor small FFT's that dont really stress a CPU :)don't small FFT's stress the cpu more than large FFT's?

[dogsx2]

I am wondering why I have seen not even one Prime95 stability test on the 1xx Opterons? All that 1M, 8M and 32M stuff is just worth nothing.

Once, I got a SanDiego that could 1M up to 3100 MHz but primed only up to 2900 MHz. So just stop those 1M postings - they don't tell anything.

Lateste Prime95 v24.14 can be picked up here:
http://www.mersenne.org/gimps/p95v2414.zip

Do some 2-3h prime runs with those "freaking" Opterons and I am sure we will see more realistic OC's.

I agree 1M is a sprinters test. However, 32M is not. I wouldn't put it as high as prime but it does show stabilty in your rig. How high could you do 32M on your sd? I've had cpu's that would do either prime or 32M but not both.

I would call 32m stable enough for Xtreme Systems forums.

[HermS]

with normal cooling and an average core = nothing to talk about. Just a common SanDiego 3700+ result.

Maybe yes, maybe no, but at that price who can complain? :D

[alpha0ne]

don't small FFT's stress the cpu more than large FFT's?

With the A64 no, remember that the mem controller is on die :)

[gundamit]

I don't think so. Posting Prime95 would stop the hype, I guess ... :rolleyes:

Have a look here:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=160018

2700 MHz @ 1.55V with Prime95 and one of those 3.2-GHz-on-(frosty-)air-0530APMW-144-Opterons ... with normal cooling and an average core = nothing to talk about. Just a common SanDiego 3700+ result.

Of course, there may be some really nice 1xx Opterons around doing 2.8-2.9 GHz at Prime but there is the same number of good SanDiegos (3700/4000) around. So based on everything you've read so far you're predicting the Opterons will end up just like the SDs? Even if that were the case the Opteron 144 would still represent a terrific value to those on Venice budgets.

Thanks for the link to the German site. Seems odd that he is giving 1.56v to get Prime stable at just 2.7ghz. Average? Maybe. Still too early to tell.

I would encourage all Opteron users to post any benches they feel like posting and not worry that their results will be dismissed. We can interpret the benches as we see fit. Over time the patterns will emerge.

As for me, I'll continue to do the work I feel necessary to get my rig game stable. 32M SuperPi stable has always been enough to get game stable. I've used Prime before but it wasn't as good as an indicator of stable game play as 32m runs. Sounds like there is interest in Prime from other members though, so I may have to give it a go. :D

[gundamit]

Here's my sweetspot on an XP-90C w/ Panaflo L1B Holy humping christ! 3ghz at 1.4v is phenomenal! Air cooled! :up: SD comparisons go out the window for your CPU. Hello FX comparisons.

[freestylercs]

I don't think so. Posting Prime95 would stop the hype, I guess ... :rolleyes:

Have a look here:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=160018

2700 MHz @ 1.55V with Prime95 and one of those 3.2-GHz-on-(frosty-)air-0530APMW-144-Opterons ... with normal cooling and an average core = nothing to talk about. Just a common SanDiego 3700+ result.

Of course, there may be some really nice 1xx Opterons around doing 2.8-2.9 GHz at Prime but there is the same number of good SanDiegos (3700/4000) around.
:clap:
so it is.


that´s xs.org . screens , screens , screens, but no evidence for stability.

free

[Zebo]

Wow! This is a wonderful deal. I used to think only 3000's and 530's were worth buying not anymore.

[gundamit]

:clap:
so it is.


that´s xs.org . screens , screens , screens, but no evidence for stability.

free So its not enough to dismiss all benches outside of Prime, now we're going to dismiss the entire XS community? Can't you guys just ask nicely for the Prime benches?

[freestylercs]

plz,plz let me see some prime screens.

Just realize it, and look at this thread. There is no screen, that shows me, this cpu is stable enough.

Overclocking is an other language.

free

[Zebo]

32m is pretty damn stable. You might get some 24H prime later but right now guys are just getting them and starting tweaking so hold your horses.

[gundamit]

plz,plz let me see some prime screens. I've added Prime to my official list of things to try this weekend. Stay tuned. :D

Please note that this :kissbutt: always works better than this :slapass: .

[freestylercs]

no 24h, but two hours prime 24.x are better than 30sec Super Pi.

I even say 30 min prime shows more.

@gundamit thx, :)

free

[dogsx2]

I hope we're not going to get into the: if you do not have hours of prime, you have nothing debate. I guess one of the reasons I'm at XS is because it is XS. I thought it was a forum of wr, top oc's, information on oc'ing.

I like a system that is stable and I think OCCT or spi32 is more then enough for this forum. All you do is cut out the top oc'er when you cry about prime.

[Vincentvega18]

Can i ask where you guys are getting these from, or are they not for sale atm?

[mrlobber]

Vincent, for you probably it would be here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75559

[dinos22]

no 24h, but two hours prime 24.x are better than 30sec Super Pi.

I even say 30 min prime shows more.

free
one of the toughest stress tests you can do is OCCT these suckers.....so anyone with an the 30minutes OCCT test pass would be priming for hours no problem.....so it's only 30 minutes away for the quick stress test

[ozzimark]

for those wondering, i know my opteron is >3 hours prime stable at 2.7ghz with 1.47v. i don't have screen, cause i know i can do better :D

[bokis]

I need to ask a question how come a s940 cpu fits in a s939 mb have i totaly missed something here, the resone I ask is that a online store here in Sweden got a couple 144/146 operton cpu fore sale but I can´t get week and steeping from them only "we got them a month ago" the are priced 240$
:toast2:

[Vincentvega18]

I need to ask a question how come a s940 cpu fits in a s939 mb have i totaly missed something here, the resone I ask is that a online store here in Sweden got a couple 144/146 operton cpu fore sale but I can´t get week and steeping from them only "we got them a month ago" the are priced 240$
:toast2:
Ask them specifically are they s939. Amd recently released the opteron 939 series, no idea why to be honest, but it seems to be good for all of us. on a side note i believe computersmsa has filled his order, so no more from there.

[187(V)URD@]

Please tell us what cooling you use and if you can maximum stable prime.
I am getting one 2 so it would be handy if i could compare.

[ozzimark]

I need to ask a question how come a s940 cpu fits in a s939 mb have i totaly missed something here, the resone I ask is that a online store here in Sweden got a couple 144/146 operton cpu fore sale but I can´t get week and steeping from them only "we got them a month ago" the are priced 240$
:toast2:
look carefully at the specs :D

http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/opteron/details.aspx?opn=OSA144BNBOX

[bokis]

Sorry to say the one that was on ther site was a OSA144ATBOX so no go :down:

[ozzimark]

Sorry to say the one that was on ther site was a OSA144ATBOX so no go :down:
indeed a no go. i would laugh if someone managed to get a s940 cpu working in s939 though :D

[alpha0ne]

Those Ballistic sticks are making me drool MM :toast:

[gundamit]

more 32m lower timings
CRUCIAL BALLISTIX
2.68v
now running same 294mhz but at 2.58v vdimm. :) Love how you keep speeding up your Pi runs with the timing adjustments. Keep it coming MM.

[Vapor]

*Place Holder....Opty 146 in Hands....0530APMW*

And a note to anybody who's interested.....it does not come with the FX/X2 cooler, it comes with the lowly Venice/SD/3800 cooler.


Also of note is that this placeholder won't be touched until I get some TIM....it's gonna be awhile. :(

Oh yeah, no runs on stock cooling for while--no mounting bracket.

[Vincentvega18]

*Place Holder....Opty 146 in Hands....0530APMW*

And a note to anybody who's interested.....it does not come with the FX/X2 cooler, it comes with the lowly Venice/SD/3800 cooler.


Also of note is that this placeholder won't be touched until I get some TIM....it's gonna be awhile. :(

Oh yeah, no runs on stock cooling for while--no mounting bracket.
Something a little more subzero perhaps? :D

[Vapor]

Not for awhile dude....;)

If I had even a smidge of AS5 I'd throw it under my watercooling, but all I have is what's already on my nekkid 4400+ :stick:

I think AFI should have some results under the cold stuff soon :D

[ozzimark]

get tin foil from a hershey's kiss, clean up and flatten it out real well, fold it up to ~1/2 the size of the IHS and place it on, nice and flat. haven't tried it myself, but it may work ;)



/twilight zone theories

[Vapor]

Does BB or CompUSA sell TIM? I can catch a bus to one of those...

[eshbach]

hopefully i will be able to test one of the 146 out at -116C by the end of next week. :)

[afireinside]

Guess whats here! Popping its cherry :D

[Absolute_0]

Pictures man pictures, is it the same stepping as all the others?

[afireinside]

Yep... Picture as soon as I get this thing off. Scared of slicing my finger open again...

[Absolute_0]

Removing the IHS? That a boy... finally someone has the guts. Take your time though.

[afireinside]

I am... Stupid razor blade is to thick and my mom has no clue where she put my exacto knife thing that would get it off in about 2 seconds :stick:

[Vapor]

I know exactly what you mean man....my mom has no idea where she put my AS5 or the DFI retention bracket--I knew I shoulda brought them to school.

Anyway, I picked up a variety of blades yesterday from Meijers, hopefully one will work better than the crappy exacto blades I had taking off my 4400+'s IHS.

[wickedld9]

Does BB or CompUSA sell TIM? I can catch a bus to one of those...


CompUSA sells AS5 under the mad dog label. Just look at the tube and it says AS5. ;)

[Absolute_0]

Dude you gotta get those very thin razors for the IHS removal! Get somethign too thick and you risk damaging the CPU...

[afireinside]

Well I found it and the blade is about 5x thicker than I remember... Maybe I'll have it off by 4 :p:

[REBEL900]

I see this website (http://www.colamco.com/store/product/detail.aspx?product=497461) already adverstising the 150 opty..