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ben805
10-17-2005, 06:36 AM
looks like lots of CABYE are just as overclockable as the CABNE....that's good! :D :D

ozzimark
10-17-2005, 07:13 AM
no it ain't a competition just want to compare what other opteron users get between memtest vs windows stable at each vcore setting :)

right now i'm at 3078mhz at 1.65v memtest :)
i suspected as much, i was just wondering if you know what these various speeds obtainable could indicate :toast:

thanks nisco :D

75sausage
10-17-2005, 07:27 AM
I am about to build a new system with an Opti and as most here have a hard time finding a source. I have a small suggestion, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to start a vendor thread for opties with links and locations (USA, AU, EU etc)

Confusion
10-17-2005, 07:36 AM
Try compumusic (http://www.compumusic.com/i37197.htm), looks like they still have some stock of the CABYEs.

187(V)URD@
10-17-2005, 07:51 AM
After a batch if 144 opterons vpaw i recieve tomorrow a opteron 146 week 36 VPAW :(.

Prolly going to sell it and reorder a new one opteron.

ben805
10-17-2005, 09:06 AM
so....have anybody use their opty for gaming yet and how does it perform say compare to the FX? or are you guys still too busy overclocking the beast? :D :D all the benchie are fun but it would be nice too to see how they perform in BF2, UT2004 and whatnot. ;)

F|apDro|`
10-17-2005, 09:24 AM
ok I did the gamble and bought a CABYE 148 :)

Couldnt find a CABNE so this was the best...
Should be here by wednesday !

ixtapalapaquetl
10-17-2005, 09:28 AM
...runs at 38-42c idle, 52-57c full load. A little warmer than I'd like....honestly hoping for just a little more...Maybe temps are holding you back? Try reseating your HS, changing your HS (XP-90 is doing me well), and/or removing your IHS?

HermS
10-17-2005, 09:32 AM
so....have anybody use their opty for gaming yet and how does it perform say compare to the FX? or are you guys still too busy overclocking the beast? :D :D all the benchie are fun but it would be nice too to see how they perform in BF2, UT2004 and whatnot. ;)


Yes Ben, Been running my 148 solidly for about a week now @ 3.363GHz fully stable in BF2, FEAR and Black and White 2. In BF2 the framerates improved a lot more than I expected compared to my old FX-55 on air. Even with only a stock X850 the framerate is usually bumping the 100 fps limiter. :toast:

ben805
10-17-2005, 09:44 AM
Yes Ben, Been running my 148 solidly for about a week now @ 3.363GHz fully stable in BF2, FEAR and Black and White 2. In BF2 the framerates improved a lot more than I expected compared to my old FX-55 on air. Even with only a stock X850 the framerate is usually bumping the 100 fps limiter. :toast:

AWW YEAA!! glad to hear man.....do you still have the IHS on? hopefully my 148 can do 3.2~3.3 on phase change too, if it does then I'm going to let my X2 step aside for awhile :D :D can't wait to try it on BF2 and FEAR :toast:

HermS
10-17-2005, 09:48 AM
Still have the IHS on, this chip is too nice to be risking accidental damage. Will be really interested to see how yours performs on a PCICE phasechange! Good luck with it.

el rolio
10-17-2005, 10:40 AM
got mine!
OSA146DAA5BN
CABNE 0530APMW
batch 120 (last 3 digits of 3rd line right?)

75sausage
10-17-2005, 10:50 AM
Try compumusic (http://www.compumusic.com/i37197.htm), looks like they still have some stock of the CABYEs.A little expensive considering a $15 ground shipping charge.
In any event, they just sold out.

Runner
10-17-2005, 10:56 AM
www.monarchcomputer.com

They have 146 148 150 152 165 170 175 socket 939 opterons ALL in stock as of 1pm MST October 17th. I just ordered a 146.

kakaroto
10-17-2005, 10:57 AM
got mine!
OSA146DAA5BN
CABNE 0530APMW
batch 120 (last 3 digits of 3rd line right?)

Where did you bought it? :D

75sausage
10-17-2005, 11:15 AM
www.monarchcomputer.com

They have 146 148 150 152 165 170 175 socket 939 opterons ALL in stock as of 1pm MST October 17th. I just ordered a 146.
Use part number to search site, I did not find them in the appropriate section.

largon
10-17-2005, 11:20 AM
got mine!
OSA146DAA5BN
CABNE 0530APMW
batch 120 (last 3 digits of 3rd line right?)
It's actually 4 last digits. Though, I guess Optys don't have nº's over 1000.

Runner
10-17-2005, 11:20 AM
All I did to find them was type in Opteron 939. To find the 146 though, I had the search for it bookmarked :) along with about 15 other vendors I was prepared to buy from.

xenolith
10-17-2005, 11:21 AM
Use part number to search site, I did not find them in the appropriate section.

direct link (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=M&Category_Code=NA_2) scroll down

dqniel
10-17-2005, 11:33 AM
If only somebody had the 144 :(. The 146 at Monarch is too expensive for me :mad:

sierra_bound
10-17-2005, 12:07 PM
Where did u buy yours ?

:)
eWiz. Though they're available now at Monarch too, as several people have already discovered. ;)

Wow, nice work eva2000 and sierra_bound, non-CABNE 3ghz goodness is coming along nicely for you guys.
Thanks. The chip is for a 24/7 rig. It's running very stable right now at 3GHz in my steel case.

gbomb944
10-17-2005, 12:42 PM
Thanks for posting that runner.
:toast:

I scooped up a 146. Now we just have to hope they aren't the new "grbge" stepping.

Runner
10-17-2005, 12:54 PM
Thanks for posting that runner.
:toast:

I scooped up a 146. Now we just have to hope they aren't the new "grbge" stepping.

No problem, and totally agree on that "grbge" stepping hehe, hopefully though monarch got a first batch.

gbomb944
10-17-2005, 01:18 PM
Looks like they are the new packaging and I'm pretty sure the early ones will be in the old box. I was seriously thinking of getting one of 148's from ewiz just because the cabye's seem to be guaranteed 3ghz pwnage, 3.? on phase. I figure it's bound to do 2.7 or 8. OC'ing is luck anyway unless you want to buy chip after chip an pray for a good one.

eva2000
10-17-2005, 02:39 PM
Looks like there's a 0.08 to 0.10v vcore difference between memtest and windows right now for each stage of oc listed at http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=1536.

At 2808mhz at 1.488v there's 33-34C idle temp and 43-44C load temp from 6+ hr cpuburnin max heat load running. MaxTcase temp this cpu is rated for is 57C. And not sure if it's correct but CBI reports thermal rating is 67W ???

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_1/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x256/758_757/623_2BTA/AUTO/9x/312-312-2.5437-8-22-2223_1.525-1.3-1.6-2.9_3684_9N65_16clk_16x7x/cpuburnin_10hrs_tn.jpg

So with my 28C room ambient temps water cooling C/W

Total watts = (((1.488/1.36)^2 x (2808/1800)) x 67W) = 125.12W

Delta (between cpu load and room ambient) = 44.5C - 28C = 16.5C

Delta (between cpu load and cpu idle) = 44.5C - 33.5C = 11C

C/W = 16.5C / 125.12 = 0.1318 (assuming 67W rating is correct)

Memory wise it's fairly similar on mem controller to my FX-57, as 2x 256MB Gskill PC4400LE max windows superpi is around 322mhz 2.5-4-3-6 at 2.9v.

Dividers do complicate the oc'ing somewhat especially on 623-2BTA bios like 623-3 bios it doesn't like preamble set past 6.5ns as pc won't boot. Same happened when testing 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC4000 Tracer and Patriot PC3200LLK with 623-3 bios. 704-2BTA allowed my 2x1GB to use looser than 6.5 preamble though.

Then again with Swiftech G4 Storm waterblock probably need to remount the block a few times to get right clocks as my FX-57 between mounts differed in max oc from 3014-3120mhz!

Man wish i had a CABNE :(

edit: whoops forgot to plug the FDD power cable back in... probably won't make that much difference i don't think though

el rolio
10-17-2005, 03:07 PM
so lemme get thsi striaght as im about to do this tonight. i mount the storm block. check temps in bios.... then remount and remount until the idle temps are lowest kinda thing? then i know i have a good mount?

helps!

dogsx2
10-17-2005, 03:09 PM
www.monarchcomputer.com

They have 146 148 150 152 165 170 175 socket 939 opterons ALL in stock as of 1pm MST October 17th. I just ordered a 146.

So Dabney of Monarch purchasing dept. was telling the truth about my email.


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1084206#post1084206

s0ulfly
10-17-2005, 03:12 PM
so this CABYE steeping does not suck like the CABGE's ?

i hope i can get one this time

eva2000
10-17-2005, 03:15 PM
CABNE better than CABYE better than CABGE :)

xenolith
10-17-2005, 03:19 PM
eva, nice efforts. You could always de-lid the thing and see what you get.

Runner
10-17-2005, 03:52 PM
Looks like they are the new packaging and I'm pretty sure the early ones will be in the old box. I was seriously thinking of getting one of 148's from ewiz just because the cabye's seem to be guaranteed 3ghz pwnage, 3.? on phase. I figure it's bound to do 2.7 or 8. OC'ing is luck anyway unless you want to buy chip after chip an pray for a good one.

Have a feeling they just reused the pic's from the S940 versions for these :)

gundamit
10-17-2005, 04:04 PM
Wow. Monarch has the 146 still in stock. Couldn't help but pull the trigger on another. Might end up being a Xmas gift.

Nem
10-17-2005, 04:10 PM
I've got a 146 on order from CPU City for delivery after the 19th, and have also ordered a 148 from Komplett last night, should be here tomorrow.

Komplett have the 148 at £199 inclusive which is £30 cheaper than CPU City on the same item so couldn't help myself. They have 2 left in stock but it does not say which stepping, I'll post what I get tomorrow.

Nick (with a feeling the 2 left in stock at Komplett are about to sell out)

dogsx2
10-17-2005, 04:18 PM
Wow. Monarch has the 146 still in stock. Couldn't help but pull the trigger on another. Might end up being a Xmas gift.

Bah, :nono: you should have bought a 150 so then you would only have one more to buy for a (edit per gun) straight flush.

Tamille
10-17-2005, 04:23 PM
Bah, :nono: you should have bought a 150 so then you would only have one more to buy for a full house.
cool wish i had 142,144,146,148,150,152,154 opterons. now that would be sweet.

gbomb944
10-17-2005, 04:36 PM
Have a feeling they just reused the pic's from the S940 versions for these :)


Could be, I guess we'll have to wait and see. I read somewhere that AMD was switching over to that style for everything. Also eliminating oem chips since too many are being sold not built into systems. Kind of sucks if you don't want the fan. Some guys will have like a hundred fans.

gundamit
10-17-2005, 04:37 PM
Bah, :nono: you should have bought a 150 so then you would only have one more to buy for a full house. I think you mean straight flush, but point taken. :D

eva2000
10-17-2005, 04:43 PM
Not stable but just playing around

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_1/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x256/758_757/623_2BTA/AUTO/9x/326-326-2.5436-12-24-3323_1.57-1.3-1.6-2.95_3684_9N7_16clk_8x4x/cpuz_validated_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_1/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x256/758_757/623_2BTA/AUTO/9x/326-326-2.5436-12-24-3323_1.57-1.3-1.6-2.95_3684_9N7_16clk_8x4x/superpi-1m_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_1/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x256/758_757/623_2BTA/AUTO/9x/323-323-2.5436-12-24-3323_1.57-1.3-1.6-2.95_3684_9N7_16clk_8x4x/superpi-8m_tn.jpg

gbomb944
10-17-2005, 04:53 PM
I can't wait to see some of dual core clocks. I would've liked to get one but alas not in the budget.

eva2000
10-17-2005, 05:40 PM
bit more voltage for 1M with ram at DDR655 :)

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_1/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x256/758_757/623_2BTA/AUTO/9x/327-327-2.5436-12-24-3323_1.59-1.3-1.6-2.98_3684_9N7_16clk_8x4x/cpuz_validated_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_1/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x256/758_757/623_2BTA/AUTO/9x/327-327-2.5436-12-24-3323_1.59-1.3-1.6-2.98_3684_9N7_16clk_8x4x/superpi-1m_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_1/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x256/758_757/623_2BTA/AUTO/9x/327-327-2.5436-12-24-3323_1.59-1.3-1.6-2.98_3684_9N7_16clk_8x4x/everest-read_7940_tn.jpg

Sandra = 8141/8042
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_1/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x256/758_757/623_2BTA/AUTO/9x/327-327-2.5436-12-24-3323_1.59-1.3-1.6-2.98_3684_9N7_16clk_8x4x/mem-buff_8141-8042_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_1/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x256/758_757/623_2BTA/AUTO/9x/327-327-2.5436-12-24-3323_1.59-1.3-1.6-2.98_3684_9N7_16clk_8x4x/renderbench_3m32s_tn.jpg

gbomb944
10-17-2005, 06:13 PM
Yours is a cabge with 2x256 eva?

dinos22
10-17-2005, 06:51 PM
Yours is a cabge with 2x256 eva?
it's CABYE 0536GPMW

eva2000
10-17-2005, 07:02 PM
no Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW

dogsx2
10-17-2005, 07:23 PM
Is there anywhere to still download Lightwork? Off topic, but. :off:

rise4310
10-17-2005, 07:58 PM
Yup mine is 67C also.

Just something which I have mentioned be4 something I think is relevant because alot of the talk here is abt wht vCore a particular chip needs to get a certain mhz.

Its no good saying

'woot, im using 1.45v for 3Ghz stable'

if in reallity your vCore is 1.52v. Why I say this? Well my Ultra-D overvolts between 0.04-0.07v depending on the setting chosen in bios. Another member who posted in this thread (soz cant remember name) also said their DFI overvolts by abt 0.07v, now these are quite large differences from bios reading and mulitmeter reading points.

If their is going to be any chance of correlating data to find if MaxTCase has any real meaning then 'real' vCore needs to be taken into account!!

amen to that. every dfi nf4 (sli-dr and ultra-d's) i've had/have reads .06-.07 lower in windows and .04 lower in bios than what i actually set.

i think ut would be more accurate if people would state what they actually are setting.

sierra_bound
10-17-2005, 08:17 PM
Is there anywhere to still download Lightwork? Off topic, but. :off:
Try the second link in this post. ;)

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=724021&postcount=1

el rolio
10-17-2005, 09:47 PM
ok. priming now for burn in at 290x10 with bios setting 1.45v+5% ~ 1.5ish and 166 mem divider to be safe

its HOT! hopefully the burn in helps some

this is on my 0530 cabne opterown 146

ken
10-17-2005, 09:53 PM
My best so far :| its an 144, CABYE 0536 GPMW

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/39/330x98li.jpg

dinos22
10-17-2005, 10:00 PM
looking good....same as mine except the time you got is on the slow side

what are you benching 32M at

ken
10-17-2005, 10:02 PM
looking good....same as mine except the time you got is on the slow side

what are you benching 32M at

yeah, my memory sux :(
btw, highest stable@SP32M is 325x9 , havent tried higher as Im working on 3Ghz :p

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8766/32mb325x90ue.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32mb325x90ue.jpg)

dinos22
10-17-2005, 10:11 PM
yeah, my memory sux :(
btw, highest stable@SP32M is 325x9 , havent tried higher as Im working on 3Ghz :p

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8766/32mb325x90ue.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32mb325x90ue.jpg)
i've tried 2.9GHz and it was fine but my time is SHOCKING.......what's yours like

i also tried on 2943MHz but it crapped out on loop 12 i think.....CBF any more just waiting for the Expert board any day now(i hope)

ken
10-17-2005, 10:13 PM
i've tried 2.9GHz and it was fine but my time is SHOCKING.......what's yours like

i also tried on 2943MHz but it crapped out on loop 12 i think.....CBF any more just waiting for the Expert board any day now(i hope)

its 26m 47.328s

offtopic: wheres my sign gone? why doesnt it display? :confused:

dinos22
10-17-2005, 10:30 PM
its 26m 47.328s

offtopic: wheres my sign gone? why doesnt it display? :confused:
that's even worse than me

those times are not good because i am yet to beat my Venice time with this Opteron.......that's really :banana::banana::banana::banana:ting me

i'm sure others would notice this as well if they compared old and new...........i know eva2000 can reliably compare that is if he has the slow 32M time syndrome

T_M
10-17-2005, 10:51 PM
dinos keep me posted on i4 if you find out Opty's suck in PI, might save me/scrags wasting some money

ken
10-17-2005, 11:01 PM
dinos keep me posted on i4 if you find out Opty's suck in PI, might save me/scrags wasting some money

you buy the CPU to just play with PI or something? :D

eva2000
10-17-2005, 11:18 PM
that's even worse than me

those times are not good because i am yet to beat my Venice time with this Opteron.......that's really :banana::banana::banana::banana:ting me

i'm sure others would notice this as well if they compared old and new...........i know eva2000 can reliably compare that is if he has the slow 32M time syndrome
Give me till tonight and i'll pump out some 32M times for you from testing my 1st opteron 144 i don't think there's any slow pi time bug at all it could be your OS ??

make sure to clear cmos fully on each new cpu you install :)

Nem
10-17-2005, 11:55 PM
Just another quick heads up for UK people. Komplett have got a couple of 144's in stock along with a couple of 148's still, £120 and £199 respectively.

Nick

Enigma422
10-18-2005, 01:27 AM
Any DC Opteron results yet?

dimasdw
10-18-2005, 01:50 AM
i found someone sell second CABGE 0534 SPMW
is this a good steping ?

Tamille
10-18-2005, 01:55 AM
no it is the worst out of the 3. usally about 2.6ghz super_pi 32m stable max.

dimasdw
10-18-2005, 02:14 AM
no it is the worst out of the 3. usally about 2.6ghz super_pi 32m stable max.

oh,thanks for the info...:)

eva2000
10-18-2005, 04:07 AM
my 2nd Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?p=23158#post23158

it's maxTcase is 2C higher than other one at 59C and clocks higher with 0.05v less vcore than my first Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW :)

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_2/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x256/758_757/623_2BTA/AUTO/9x/335-300-2.5436-9-19-2223_1.59-1.3-1.6-2.95_3684_9N65_16clk_16x7x/superpi-1m_tn2.jpg

periquitos
10-18-2005, 08:15 AM
Please , could someone do some cinebench tests?

my 148 is on the way since last week , and I want to figure how it compares to a X2 on prof. apps

Vapor
10-18-2005, 08:16 AM
It's slower. By a lot.

GoThr3k
10-18-2005, 09:14 AM
what about other weeks then 28/30/36 ?????

gbomb944
10-18-2005, 09:20 AM
This thread has now surpassed the x2 thread in views and posts. Pretty amazing the excitement around the opterons. Hopefully they will live up to the hype. If I don't get 3gig 24/7 stable at 1.5v I'm going to be pissed. High hopes but why not? Otherwise it's just another chip.

F|apDro|`
10-18-2005, 09:27 AM
what about cabge 0536 vpaw 144up :stick:
someone else results on that one ..

its somewhere in this thread ...

CABNE > CABYE > CABGE
3Ghz+ > 3Ghz max > 2.7 max

or something :rolleyes:

Aphex_Tom_9
10-18-2005, 09:29 AM
its somewhere in this thread ...

CABNE > CABYE > CABGE
3Ghz+ > 3Ghz max > 2.7 max

or something :rolleyes:
CABGE's actaully have good results from what ive seen

LexDiamonds
10-18-2005, 10:09 AM
Anyone still recieving CABNEs?

foofreaknfighte
10-18-2005, 10:20 AM
Just loaded up my CABYE 148 I got from eWiz. I am a little overwhelmed with everything coming from intel and all....new mobo...new hd...new video card. Needed all new software too. So I guess the first step is throw in a divider and start pumping it up...and tips before I start kicking it?

ozzimark
10-18-2005, 10:41 AM
Anyone still recieving CABNEs?
i have one on the way :D

Confusion
10-18-2005, 11:02 AM
Anyone still recieving CABNEs?

My 148 CABNE is on the way. :woot:

On a side note, I've got some anxiety about damaging this CPU by overclocking it incorrectly. This is my first crack at OCing, and it would be criminal (especially amoungst the XS community) not to overclock a CABNE. :slapass:

So, I guess my question is, how easy/difficult is it to damage my processor OCing it? Is there a guide that you folks would specifically reccomend for a n00b? (I've seen quite a few, not sure if one stands out over the others). I think I'll be using a DFI Ultra-D, so if there is something tailored to that board it would be prefferable. Also, what do you folks think of using apps/tools as an OC aid?

xenolith
10-18-2005, 11:12 AM
My 148 CABNE is on the way. :woot:

On a side note, I've got some anxiety about damaging this CPU by overclocking it incorrectly. This is my first crack at OCing, and it would be criminal (especially amoungst the XS community) not to overclock a CABNE. :slapass:

So, I guess my question is, how easy/difficult is it to damage my processor OCing it? Is there a guide that you folks would specifically reccomend for a n00b? (I've seen quite a few, not sure if one stands out over the others). I think I'll be using a DFI Ultra-D, so if there is something tailored to that board it would be prefferable. Also, what do you folks think of using apps/tools as an OC aid?

The best advice I could give you is get a multimeter and head over to DFI-Street.com (http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/index.php). There might be some people who disagree DFI-Street forums is a good place to go for help, but I think that's their personal problem. ;)

marky
10-18-2005, 11:32 AM
Awesome results guys! I cancelled my Machester E4 X2 3800+ to grab a 146 or 148 Opteron thanks to your posts!

Now the only question is: What steppings is Monarch shipping this week? :banana:


Thanks! :woot:

gbomb944
10-18-2005, 11:42 AM
Don't turn up the voltage past 1.55 if want to be careful and don't even go that high unless you feel unhappy with what oc you get below. In general the less you overvolt stuff the better, (from a safety perspective anyway, xtreme is something different). I think the cabne don't like volts so you shouldn't need a lot. DFI seems to overvolt ram by .07 to .1 and cpu's by .07 -.1 so you should be aware of that.

Start at stock volts or below like 1.3 and raise it then test til it fails then raise vcore a bit .01-.025 and keep going. In general the a64 overclocking guide sticky at dfi-street is a good thing to become familiar with. Be patient, thorough, read as much as possible about what people with the same ram and mobo have done, and test, test, test.

OC your current rig for practice. I learned everything I need to know about oc'ing on k6 and celerons. Everything afterwards is just details. It's really not a big deal. You're just turning up the speed and applying more voltage when you have too. The only thing of note thats different now is that you can tweak your ram timings which is something different than oc'ing a cpu. Master your cpu first and wory with ram timings later as thats more advanced and you can get lost with that. If possible just copy somebody elses settings, (with EXACTLY the same ram or at least ram chips), from the oc database on dfi street with the exception of the voltage and bus speed as that stuff you have to find by trial and error.

foofreaknfighte
10-18-2005, 11:54 AM
Ok...well here it is...my first AMD/Opeteron overclock. I still need to set up my mobo a bit more I think (so many options). ALso, I didn't want my ram to get in the way but I think I way overdid it, or underdid...whatever. I'm a n00b so let me know what you think im effing up.....

xenolith
10-18-2005, 12:04 PM
Ok...well here it is...my first AMD/Opeteron overclock. I still need to set up my mobo a bit more I think (so many options). ALso, I didn't want my ram to get in the way but I think I way overdid it, or underdid...whatever. I'm a n00b so let me know what you think im effing up.....

Your memory divider must be set at the very lowest setting - 127.5Mhz!? Try setting the divider to 166 to get the memory up to 200mhz (as long as you have PC3200) and set the HTT multi to 3.0. Keep your CPU's multi and HTT (FSB) the same.

foofreaknfighte
10-18-2005, 12:06 PM
Yeah....I shortchanged my memory a LITTLE too much. I have my HTT multi at 4.0 right now...is that ok?

ozzimark
10-18-2005, 12:07 PM
Yeah....I shortchanged my memory a LITTLE too much. I have my HTT multi at 4.0 right now...is that ok?
as long as the final ht link speed doesn't get much over 1ghz, it's fine ;)

xenolith
10-18-2005, 12:08 PM
Set it the HTT multi to 3.0, otherwise you run the risk of going over 1000mhz with it. There's no performance hit.

gbomb944
10-18-2005, 12:38 PM
You could leave htt multi on auto with dfi as it auto adjusts. You should probably set you multi at 10 with no divider and see how high the mem will go now.

Zeus
10-18-2005, 12:40 PM
Burn in seemed to have helped a little, OCCT stable at 3GHz now with just 1.4V watercooled 20C ambient.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38760&stc=1

Haven't tried with lower voltage yet. :)

foofreaknfighte
10-18-2005, 12:47 PM
Test the memory now? Don't think I should try and go any farther? Also, what are the max temps for these CPU's? So far my temps have maxed out at 36c under load.

ozzimark
10-18-2005, 12:53 PM
most impressive zeus :toast:
though, how long did you run occt?

gbomb944
10-18-2005, 12:58 PM
You can't leave your divider at 127. From what I can tell your ram is only running at 161 mhz. somebody correct me if I'm wrong. Your bandwidth is bupkis at that speed.

xenolith
10-18-2005, 01:05 PM
Test the memory now? Don't think I should try and go any farther? Also, what are the max temps for these CPU's? So far my temps have maxed out at 36c under load.

36c is fine. You still have plenty of headroom. Crank it up... :banana:

Did you get your memory up to default speed yet?

gbomb944
10-18-2005, 01:09 PM
Set the divider at auto or 200 and then the multi at 10. Then go up 10mhz at a time on htt speed until you know how fast your ram can go. Then you'll know what combination of multi/div will give you the most from ram and cpu. You want your cpu as high as possible and ram as high as possible but secondary to the cpu speed. You might want to download this if the math confuses you.

amd memfreq by goddh0r--- http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7536&d=1103300738

It's like a calculator for bus speeds dividers and all that.

Zeus
10-18-2005, 01:12 PM
most impressive zeus :toast:
though, how long did you run occt?

I ran "test" which takes up half an hour but is very very hard on your system.
If it's not stable it will for sure fail in OCCT.

It's about the same as something like 2hours+ Prime95 large FFTs.

foofreaknfighte
10-18-2005, 01:29 PM
Ok. I guess I will do that next. In the meantime I brought it up a little more. I had to bump the Vcore to 4.75 to get it to get through pi though.

Zeus
10-18-2005, 01:33 PM
4.75Vcore?
I hope you mean 1.475? :p:

foofreaknfighte
10-18-2005, 01:50 PM
Hah! Thank god...

gbomb944
10-18-2005, 01:58 PM
Looking pretty sweet. Your ram is at 208 now so it's officially oc'd too.

Knew I should've got one of those cabye's. Hope mine does as well.

furyfax
10-18-2005, 02:04 PM
Do the 150's Opterons OC just as well ? That's the only Opterson s939 CPU's one can get a hand of in Norway.

foofreaknfighte
10-18-2005, 02:05 PM
Should I still be testing my ram max with pi?

gbomb944
10-18-2005, 02:25 PM
I'd use memtest but you can use pi. Often a 1m pi will find errors so it's kind of quick and dirty method rather than a whole half hour. Clockgen and pi is a quick way to find a rough ram limit. Emphasis on rough but you'll have to lower your multi or just run 1-1 and lower the bus to start.

corvus_corax
10-18-2005, 02:40 PM
makes no sense still.....all that nonsense posting in the thread provided means nothing unless they compile that data with actualy overclocking results from all those CPUs in some sort of standardised way......also using other info such as vcores, temps, ambient temps, cooling, MaxTcase value at stock/OCd, under stock heatsink, steppings..................once you have that info you can prove whether the MaxT Case value actually means anything if you correlate the data properly and use regression analysis or some other form of data analysis......if you read it now you can just draw wrong conclusions......
Of course, i agree with you, i know about statistical analysis (i'm engineering student) but i like to see A64MaxTCase just as a reference, but not how the plain truth about overclocking.


Don't turn up the voltage past 1.55 if want to be careful and don't even go that high unless you feel unhappy with what oc you get below. In general the less you overvolt stuff the better, (from a safety perspective anyway, xtreme is something different). I think the cabne don't like volts so you shouldn't need a lot. DFI seems to overvolt ram by .07 to .1 and cpu's by .07 -.1 so you should be aware of that.
Yes, very interesting.
My DFI NF4 overvolt very little, actually the value that i set in Bios is almost the real value (0.005V extra). For example, if i set 1.250V in Bios, measuring with DMM i get 1.255 and 1.260 with load (running OCCT, Prime Small FFTs)

foofreaknfighte
10-18-2005, 03:01 PM
Well this is kinda confusing. I know on my p4 system my memory would do FSB 245 but now It wont even boot up past 225. Does that seem strange to anyone else?

corvus_corax
10-18-2005, 03:07 PM
What values are you using in MAL and RPT? You can try relaxing those parameters.

foofreaknfighte
10-18-2005, 03:19 PM
I am using 7ns for Max A Latency and 4 for row precharge time. I can get it to pass pi at 2.8v now, buts thats as far as it will go. What should I relax those to? I hope I don't need to get new ram for this Opteron to rock.

Edit: I relaxed those to 9ns and 5. No luck. This is confusing. I wonder if some of my other mem settings need to be tweaked.

corvus_corax
10-18-2005, 03:22 PM
Opteron is a very strange animal with MAL (Max Async Latency) and RPT (Read Preamble Time). Maybe you need to use 8ns or 9ns for MAL and 6.5ns or 7ns for Preamble. If don't work maybe use Auto for MAL and 7.5 for Preamble.

Crankybugga
10-18-2005, 03:41 PM
Well this is kinda confusing. I know on my p4 system my memory would do FSB 245 but now It wont even boot up past 225. Does that seem strange to anyone else?

Im noticing something similar, my redlines on a Venice run at 240 with 3.2v, but on this 150 I get Pi errors when they go above 200 with same voltage.
Not sure what to make of that.

foofreaknfighte
10-18-2005, 03:45 PM
Well its really scaring me now...wouldn't even boot at 210! Gave me a long beep to let me know it was angry too. Is it possible to fry your ram without upping the Volts at all? My preamble is auto at 9.5ns

gbomb944
10-18-2005, 03:53 PM
You may have to clear the cmos to get it to boot again.

You'd be better off to change the settings in windows with a64tweaker and then run pi or something. That way if you do something that makes your system unbootable the changes aren't saved after you restart.

Interesting that it wouldn't boot at 210 since you had it at 208 earlier. You may have changed something else maybe.

Minstadave
10-18-2005, 04:02 PM
Its been a long time coming, had to wait for something better than my 2Gb Geil value but the Gskill saved the day!

3Ghz was a piece of cake with my GSkill LEs, its a CABYE 0536GPMW:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4491/3ghzgoodness1mp.jpg

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=44268

Thats at 1.64V ish set in the bios, load temps were 44 degrees, should be some headroom in both the chip and the RAM, not had a fiddle with lower voltages yet.

Best £120 ever spent :D FX-57 beater ;)

Cooling is:

LRWW waterblock
AquaXtreme 50z pump
2x120mm Swiftech rad (bargain from OcUK itself)
2x120mm fans at 5Vs (silent :D)
1/2" Tygon tubing

foofreaknfighte
10-18-2005, 04:13 PM
Well I got it booting at 220 again. Anytime I try taking it over that with clockgen it locks up. Take a look at that screenie i just posted and let me know if anything looks suspicious if you wouldn't mind. Preamble of 9.5ns on auto seems a little high doesn't it?

gbomb944
10-18-2005, 04:16 PM
Does anybody know what causes those **'s in a64tweak, I know it means it's not reading the actual values? Mine did that at first but I can' t remember how I fixed it. I had to get a different version or something. Unfortunately my system is rma'd at the moment so I can't check.

gbomb944
10-18-2005, 04:24 PM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=37345&page=1&pp=25

Not sure if v6 works but .31 should.

Runner
10-18-2005, 04:38 PM
Well I got it booting at 220 again. Anytime I try taking it over that with clockgen it locks up. Take a look at that screenie i just posted and let me know if anything looks suspicious if you wouldn't mind. Preamble of 9.5ns on auto seems a little high doesn't it?

Uh, theres a lot of stuff that looks wrong in there...are you sure that its reading them properly?

gbomb944
10-18-2005, 04:59 PM
Wow slow in here. Something cool must be happening somewhere or everybody's looking at pr0n :D .

The link I posted above is for dl a new clockgen. That version doesn't work with dfi or something. Also I never was able to use clockgen now that I think about it. There is a clockgen on the mobo cd maybe that one works or speedfan, systool I'm pretty sure does.

Probably the best way to test memory speed is to use memtest. It's in the bios just choose memtest enable. I like a bootable cd better since sometimes my bios would freak out and lose it's settings when heavy testing with the bios version.

dinos22
10-18-2005, 05:04 PM
ANOTHER SLOW 8M TIME

guys i am telling you there is something wrong here when these CPUs are benchmarked with 8M and 32M times are slow

PLS do your tests and compare to your old Venice results

aaaaaaaargh


Its been a long time coming, had to wait for something better than my 2Gb Geil value but the Gskill saved the day!

3Ghz was a piece of cake with my GSkill LEs, its a CABYE 0536GPMW:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4491/3ghzgoodness1mp.jpg

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=44268

Thats at 1.64V ish set in the bios, load temps were 44 degrees, should be some headroom in both the chip and the RAM, not had a fiddle with lower voltages yet.

Best £120 ever spent :D FX-57 beater ;)

Cooling is:

LRWW waterblock
AquaXtreme 50z pump
2x120mm Swiftech rad (bargain from OcUK itself)
2x120mm fans at 5Vs (silent :D)
1/2" Tygon tubing

foofreaknfighte
10-18-2005, 05:09 PM
Well, I gave flashing BIOS a try and that didn't help at all. Trying to search the forum for why tweaker isn't reading correctly but having no luck. Maybe I just have some bum ram :( But that seems strange since I hit 245 easily with my p3.2

Edit: Could this be a PSU issue?

asianguy80
10-18-2005, 05:22 PM
i have one on the way :D

don't you mean you have #1 on the way ahahaha.

You finally got the funds to to get it? I would have donated to your cause :cool:

k00lance
10-18-2005, 05:23 PM
Just tested this amazing clocker..
3.0 ghz (300 x 100) @ 1.39 V
cpu = Opteron146 CABNE 0530
Ram = Patriot TCCD pc4800 XBLK, 300 @ 2.5-3-3


http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/1585/untitled1117sm.jpg

airwolves
10-18-2005, 05:25 PM
Well I went ahead and last week Wed. I broke down and order one just in case I was able to get a good one but guess I lucked out so far but havnt got the time to test it :( Wife on my case.. Trying to hide this from her too lol. :slapass: :slapass:

But stepping so far its a CABNE 0528 GPMW 500255 Looks like I got a good stepping now only if I can test it and able to get the results as others. I did get some OCZ pc 3500 2X512 to test with too

So would the ballistix 2 Gigs or the ocz 1 Gig be better to start with??

NISCO PT
10-18-2005, 05:32 PM
Well, I gave flashing BIOS a try and that didn't help at all. Trying to search the forum for why tweaker isn't reading correctly but having no luck. Maybe I just have some bum ram :( But that seems strange since I hit 245 easily with my p3.2

Edit: Could this be a PSU issue?
i have this problem many times too
i do like that:
i put the pc off like 2 minutes without all power(swith in the psu off)
2 min later boot and go to bios
dont need to make changes, only save
reboot and again to bios without go to SO
same thing- save and reboot
now go to SO and confirm if all ok.

with me this is result when the system frezes or reboot in full load :slap:
try, works with me most of the times
dont cust a thing
good luck

NISCO PT
10-18-2005, 05:33 PM
Just tested this amazing clocker..
3.0 ghz (300 x 100) @ 1.39 V
cpu = Opteron146 CABNE 0530
Ram = Patriot TCCD pc4800 XBLK, 300 @ 2.5-3-3


http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/1585/untitled1117sm.jpg
good cpu :toast:
kind of cooling you are using?

foofreaknfighte
10-18-2005, 05:50 PM
i have this problem many times too
i do like that:
i put the pc off like 2 minutes without all power(swith in the psu off)
2 min later boot and go to bios
dont need to make changes, only save
reboot and again to bios without go to SO
same thing- save and reboot
now go to SO and confirm if all ok.

with me this is result when the system frezes or reboot in full load :slap:
try, works with me most of the times
dont cust a thing
good luck


You mean you are having the problem with Tweaker? If I run CPUZ first everything reads ok in Tweaker, but as soon as I change the preamble or MAL setting in it the computer locks up! Any ideas?

gbomb944
10-18-2005, 06:13 PM
If you change a setting in tweaker and the system locks up it means it's too tight and you shouldn't do that anymore. Could you take a screen of tweaker when your system first boots before you change anything? If it still says cas latency 5 and you got *'s in all the fields you need a different version.

eva2000
10-18-2005, 06:19 PM
ANOTHER SLOW 8M TIME

guys i am telling you there is something wrong here when these CPUs are benchmarked with 8M and 32M times are slow

PLS do your tests and compare to your old Venice results

aaaaaaaargh
no probs here bare in mind 2x256MB slower than 2x 512MB heh

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_1/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x256/758_757/623_2BTA/AUTO/9x/323-323-2.5436-12-24-3323_1.57-1.3-1.6-2.95_3684_9N7_16clk_8x4x/superpi-8m_tn.jpg

airwolves
10-18-2005, 06:27 PM
Well tested it at 11X220 just like my x2 4400 was and the spi times were about the same.. So 1m and 8m was the same as the 148 was a bit faster in 8m tho.. So far i'm able to boot 11X 240 and run spi and everything ok.. 1.4v tho.. Thats with the Ocz so tight timings..

ozzimark
10-18-2005, 06:54 PM
don't you mean you have #1 on the way ahahaha.

You finally got the funds to to get it? I would have donated to your cause :cool:
heh.. yes. one number one please! :D
i had to sell my 1gb crucial value stick that did 263mhz wityh 2.9v :stick: oh well. i'll get enough money to do some more fun stuff after this 146 once i get the 144 and my 6800gt sold ;)

and now that everyone is getting "slow" times, i'm gonna have to see what's up, if mine does it too. i have noticed that my memtest bandwidth is quite a bit lower than my friend's venice at similar settings.

eva2000
10-18-2005, 07:15 PM
San diegos do have lower memtest bandwidth than venice - it's normal :)

NYCTeeN82
10-18-2005, 07:29 PM
test

airwolves
10-18-2005, 07:33 PM
Well after a hour i'm at 11X260=2860 at 1.36v and 2.8 ddr Had to put in the Ballistix tho.. So far i'm very impressed with it as I never had one that overclock so much and has so much left, I hope lol..


So its 11X40 with ocz tight timings or 11X260 with the ballistix with 33338..

Still testing.

el rolio
10-18-2005, 07:46 PM
quick question:
when i get FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4, what does that usually indicate?

Vandi423
10-18-2005, 07:48 PM
OMG k00lance!!

I seriously did not expect that chip to do that well. VERY interesting. Then again you must really know what you're doing. ;)

Ozzi,

You have number 1 on the way. You should beat everyone here. I will beat you if you don't. :slapass:

haha j/k

Xavier1421
10-18-2005, 07:52 PM
quick question:
when i get FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4, what does that usually indicate?

When Super Pi errors out like that, it means one thing, instability.

Now, the instability can be a number of things, so start testing different configs to find out which component it is.

From now on, don't hijack a thread :)

el rolio
10-18-2005, 08:30 PM
oohhhk buddy. it was prime95 and i'll take any other answers :P

vandi!!! thanks for my chip!

Vapor
10-18-2005, 08:31 PM
el rolio....it means it's unstable at that speed. Lower your clockspeed.

el rolio
10-18-2005, 08:37 PM
thanks vapor. so not a thing aboutt voltage necessarily or anything right?

wow k00lance, thats downright amazing what your chip has done. mine is giving me issues around 2.9 but then again ive just been tryin to burn it in, high temps and vcore and all... not really trying to acheive my oc. but goddamn thats what i want 300x10 and call it a day.
good job mane!

ozzimark
10-18-2005, 08:39 PM
Ozzi,

You have number 1 on the way. You should beat everyone here. I will beat you if you don't. :slapass:
i'm seriously banking on it :D

eva, i've noticed this too, and summed it up to be normal. he was getting around 10% higher bandwidth. a good amount, but nothing to poop myself over :toast:

foofreaknfighte
10-18-2005, 08:47 PM
I will post my tweaker shot as soon as I get home. The comp locks up when I try and change my preamble from 5ns to 7.5ns....that should be loosening the timings right? Why would that lock it up?

Vapor
10-18-2005, 08:49 PM
Because it's so drastic....you should set preamble and MAL in BIOS.

NYCTeeN82
10-18-2005, 09:24 PM
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5528/compstats6uy.th.jpg (http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=compstats6uy.jpg)

Ok got my Opteron yesterday, here are my results so far.

I got it from Ewiz, Opteron 148 CABYE 0528GPMW.

SO far I got it up to 255 x 11 = 2805 mghz @ 1.4V. Memory is on a divider 200 2.2.2.5 2.8V. So I figure, alright I hit a ceiling with 1.4V, let me step it up to 1.45 and take it from there. Nothing happens. Going to a slight increase of 2850 mhz, even under 1.6V, Prime errors out. So basically does this CPU not scale? Seems like no matter what Volts, the ceiling is 2805. I just hope the reason is I'm testing it on an old Asus A8V Deluxe, as my other mobo is being RMAd, but still. I set my memory on a lowest divider, so it would not interfere.

A64Tweaker also hard locks my comp when I try to change the Cas Latency from 2 to 3, I'm making it looser so what's the problem? All other options work fine without a problem, except Cas Latency.

I know the screenie is showing different things than from what I described, it is because I'm testing. It is stable at the settings I mentioned earlier. I put 1.5V and loosened memory to 3.4.4.8 just to test.

k00lance
10-18-2005, 09:34 PM
good cpu :toast:
kind of cooling you are using?
stock cooling.. :D

k00lance
10-18-2005, 09:35 PM
OMG k00lance!!

I seriously did not expect that chip to do that well. VERY interesting. Then again you must really know what you're doing. ;)

Ozzi,

You have number 1 on the way. You should beat everyone here. I will beat you if you don't. :slapass:

haha j/k

I did this 2min after it was out of the box.
Special thanks to you vandi :D
I want to see what this cpu will max out at 1.392 v :D :D

dinos22
10-18-2005, 10:07 PM
k00lance .....whoa stock cooling...congrats mate......keep the screens coming

funny thing....I have exactly the same 1M SuperPI time at 2970MHz, 270MHz on RAM......but you've got sooo much to go still....amazing CPU

Jester FPS
10-18-2005, 10:15 PM
I did this 2min after it was out of the box.
Special thanks to you vandi :D
I want to see what this cpu will max out at 1.392 v :D :D

would you mind showing us your ram settings?

k00lance
10-18-2005, 10:24 PM
[QUOTE]would you mind showing us your ram settings?[QUOTE]
I barrowed that ram from my neighbor and he is sleeping right now ^^


I've got an fx-57 today that has the exact same step/week as this opteron :D
Drooling what these will do ^^

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7214/brothers3nv.jpg

Vapor
10-19-2005, 12:31 AM
Ahhhh, always good to see a pic showing my Opty is the same stepping/week as a CPU 4+ times what I paid :D

Are the serial numbers very similar? The 2d barcode is certainly very similar.

furyfax
10-19-2005, 12:41 AM
Anyone got the 150 OPTERON, how does this one do ? The 146 aren't available here where I live, only the 150.

Rufus7
10-19-2005, 12:43 AM
[QUOTE]would you mind showing us your ram settings?[QUOTE]
I barrowed that ram from my neighbor and he is sleeping right now ^^


I've got an fx-57 today that has the exact same step/week as this opteron :D
Drooling what these will do ^^

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7214/brothers3nv.jpg

Oh Yeah that´s my Stepping here at my CABNE1460530APMW Batch G50 072
And it runs really Good. Damn Good on Air.

k00lance
10-19-2005, 12:51 AM
Ahhhh, always good to see a pic showing my Opty is the same stepping/week as a CPU 4+ times what I paid :D

Are the serial numbers very similar? The 2d barcode is certainly very similar.

I don't like 10x multi.
Opty can never battle fx's
But i like low voltage 3ghz :D

Tamille
10-19-2005, 12:55 AM
opteron 148 CABYE 0536

SuperPI 1M stable
1.73v BIOS/1.712 Cpu-Z
3075mhz idle 31~/load 43~

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/697/30751m6lr.th.jpg (http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=30751m6lr.jpg)

Rufus7
10-19-2005, 12:58 AM
I don't like 10x multi.
Opty can never battle fx's
But i like low voltage 3ghz :D

Of Course can a Opty battle an FX.
I´m on Aircooling and soon i will get my Watercooling and than i can really go further up to 3,1Gig oder 3,2 Gig Primestable. My Temps are too high under Prime over 3 Gig!! :(

mbm
10-19-2005, 01:07 AM
Just got my Opteron146. DAMNN it is the CABGE stepping :( :
CABGE 0536VPAW. :mad:
Havent been priming or anything yet. But it wont do past 2650mhz. Not sure if it is stable at this setting though.

ArcTan
10-19-2005, 01:18 AM
opteron 148 CABYE 0536

SuperPI 1M stable
1.73v BIOS/1.712 Cpu-Z
3075mhz idle 31~/load 43~
I see a vapo ls in your sig
hook it up :slapass:

Tamille
10-19-2005, 01:20 AM
I see a vapo ls in your sig
hook it up :slapass:It arrives tomorrow by courier. and then i will hook it up.

eva2000
10-19-2005, 01:23 AM
First full set of super pi results (not fully tweaked yet will do that later) :)

Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW Water cooled
DFI NF4 UT SLI-DR R.AB0 623-2BTA Official bios
1x BFG 7800GTX 81.82 beta drivers
4x 80GB Hitachi 7K80 SATAII Raid 0
1x 250GB Maxtor Maxline Plus II PATA
Pioneer DVD Burner
Floppy drive
650W Silverstone SLI PSU

WinXP Pro SP2
NF4 6.53WHQL chipset drivers

2x 512MB Gskill PC4400LE TCCD 431 dual channel kit

@280mhz 2.5-3-3-6 7-16-2-2-1-3 at 2.85v

HTT = 312HTT
Divider = 180
VID = 1.45v
VID Special = AUTO
chipset = 1.6v
LDT = 1.3v
LDT 3x

CPC = Enabled
CAS Latency(CL) = 2.5
RAS to CAS(Trcd) = 3
Min RAS# Active time(Tras) = 6
Row Precharge Time(Trp) = 3
Row Cycle Time(Trc) = 7
Row Refresh Cycle Time(Trfc) = 16
Row to Row Delay(Trrd) = 2
Write Recovery Time(Twr) = 2
Write to Read Delay(Twtr) = 1
Read to Write Delay(Trwt) = 3
Refresh Period (Tref) = 3072
Write CAS Latency(Twcl) = N/A
DRAM Bank Interleave = Enabled
Skew = AUTO
Skew Value = 0
DRAM Drive Strength = Normal 4
DRAM Data Drive Strength = Level 1
Max Async Latency = 9ns
DDRAM Response Time = Normal
Read Preamble Time = 5.5ns
Idle Cycle Limit = 16
Dynamic Counter = Enabled
R/W Queue Bypass = 16x
Bypass Max = 7x
32 byte Granularity = Disable(8burst)

Super Pi v1.40 mod
1M (Twtr @2) = 29.188 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_2/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/623_2BTA/LDT3x/9x/180/312-280-2.5336-7-16-2223_1.45-1.3-1.6-2.85_3072_dsN4dds1_9N65_16clk_16x7x/superpi-1m_tn.jpg)s
1M (Trtw @1) = 29.203 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_2/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/623_2BTA/LDT3x/9x/180/312-280-2.5336-7-16-2213_1.45-1.3-1.6-2.85_3072_dsN4dds1_9N55_16clk_16x7x/superpi-1m_tn.jpg)s
8M = 5m 21.625 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_2/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/623_2BTA/LDT3x/9x/180/312-280-2.5336-7-16-2213_1.45-1.3-1.6-2.85_3072_dsN4dds1_9N55_16clk_16x7x/superpi-8m_tn.jpg)s
32M = 25m 46.219 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_2/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/623_2BTA/LDT3x/9x/180/312-280-2.5336-7-16-2213_1.45-1.3-1.6-2.85_3072_dsN4dds1_9N55_16clk_16x7x/superpi-32m_tn.jpg)s

ArcTan
10-19-2005, 01:56 AM
It arrives tomorrow by courier. and then i will hook it up.good
hope to see some nice results :toast:

BioPC
10-19-2005, 01:58 AM
Nice! My store has again 144 on stock and they will send it to me today.
Steppings are all CABYE 0536. At least i'm not getting the worse (i hope) :)
Cannot wait to put my hands on it :D

Morfeus
10-19-2005, 04:04 AM
what about this serial? Witch is the best? What can I expect from this cpu?
CABYE 0536GPMW
CABGE 0534

Vapor
10-19-2005, 04:04 AM
CABYE is better....expect somewhere marginally below 3GHz.

Morfeus
10-19-2005, 04:08 AM
CABYE is better....expect somewhere marginally below 3GHz.
with witch kind of cooling?
thanks

Vapor
10-19-2005, 04:09 AM
Decent air I would guess. Some will be worse and some will be better of course...

Morfeus
10-19-2005, 04:18 AM
Decent air I would guess. Some will be worse and some will be better of course...
Yes sure, just to have an idea thanks

freestylercs
10-19-2005, 06:26 AM
Here is my 144 0530 APMW 0081er Batch at prime and 32M and 1M
Its without heatspreader. Under water.

the RamMHz at 32M is an error, it runs at 200/140


http://mitglied.lycos.de/freestylercs/hpbimg/144er@3000MHz@1,36V%20prime.JPG

http://mitglied.lycos.de/freestylercs/hpbimg/3204MHz@1,56V%20@32M.JPG

http://mitglied.lycos.de/freestylercs/hpbimg/Super%20Pi%2025sec.JPG

free

eR1k
10-19-2005, 06:32 AM
what mobo are you using?

Vapor
10-19-2005, 06:39 AM
What cooling? :slobber:

And I'm 99% sure he's using DFI as SmartGuardian doesn't play well with other boards from my understanding.

Mats
10-19-2005, 07:02 AM
freestylercs: Where and when did ou buy it? I may buy one in Germany...

eva2000
10-19-2005, 07:16 AM
man wish i had a CABNE sweet 3.2ghz freestylercs!

Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW run @2906mhz at 1.52v

1M = 28.235 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_2/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/623_2BTA/LDT3x/9x/180/323-290-2.5336-7-17-3223_1.54-1.3-1.6-2.9_3072_dsN4dds1_9N6_16clk_16x7x/superpi-1m_tn.jpg)S
8m = 5m 11.329 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_2/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/623_2BTA/LDT3x/9x/180/323-290-2.5336-7-17-3223_1.54-1.3-1.6-2.9_3072_dsN4dds1_9N6_16clk_16x7x/superpi-8m_tn.jpg)s
32M = 24m 54.766 (http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_2/Gskill/PC4400LE/2x512/799_800/623_2BTA/LDT3x/9x/180/323-290-2.5336-7-17-3223_1.54-1.3-1.6-2.9_3072_dsN4dds1_9N6_16clk_16x7x/superpi-32m_tn.jpg)s

gulp35
10-19-2005, 07:16 AM
Here is my 144 0530 APMW 0081er Batch at prime and 32M and 1M
Its without heatspreader. Under water.

the RamMHz at 32M is an error, it runs at 200/140


free



:rolleyes: :slap:

freestylercs
10-19-2005, 07:29 AM
What cooling? :slobber:

And I'm 99% sure he's using DFI as SmartGuardian doesn't play well with other boards from my understanding.


yes it s a DFI SLI-DR.

Normal watercooling: Tripple radiator.

@Mats its one of the first 144er, here I bought this Opteron:

ebay.de (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6808722868&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1)

less than 200 €.

to cut the heatspreader is the best i´ve done.

(sorry for my english??)

free

Vapor
10-19-2005, 07:31 AM
:rolleyes: :slap:There's A LOT of variation in water....for instance, mine's no better than a Big Typhoon while his is way ahead of it. :fact:

Tbooth
10-19-2005, 07:38 AM
Just got my Opteron146. DAMNN it is the CABGE stepping :( :
CABGE 0536VPAW. :mad:
Havent been priming or anything yet. But it wont do past 2650mhz. Not sure if it is stable at this setting though.

Doh :(. Where did you get it?

foofreaknfighte
10-19-2005, 07:42 AM
Because it's so drastic....you should set preamble and MAL in BIOS.


If I loosen the preamble or MAL in the BIOS the computer won't boot either. I can tighten them though. SInce I have DDR500 theses shouldn't be topping out at 215 right? Here is my tweaker shot...

Vapor
10-19-2005, 07:46 AM
Leave MAL at auto and set PA to 7.5ns.....it doesn't boot on an Opty?! Hmmmmmmm, let me think about this one--this is new.

EDIT: just looked at your tweaker shot and it's running a PA of 7.5ns, you should be good to go I think.

foofreaknfighte
10-19-2005, 07:50 AM
yeah. Seems strange to me....but i have no idea what the problem is. Ihave tried changing one at a time, both together, nothing works.

Vapor
10-19-2005, 07:53 AM
Don't change them in Windows if you can't, somethings just don't like to be changed....anyway, keep them at 8ns and 7.5ns respectively, most people have had their best OCs with those values.

Zeus
10-19-2005, 08:00 AM
Mine won't boot with read preamble at 7 either, i've heard it's a bios issue.
With bios 704-2bta it should be possible.

el rolio
10-19-2005, 08:01 AM
hey uhm if i post pics of my optie... i should block out the serial number in 3rd line? the one that tells g50 and 0120 batch? but block out the rest? why?

just a note. backed it down to 280x10 with mem on 183 divider

but ass soon as i get some rest so read tomorrow ima start the testing from scratch. i'm gettin higher temps than my winnie of course... and i think i mounted the storm block better this time, but i just dunno what to do. hmmz.

foofreaknfighte
10-19-2005, 08:14 AM
Mine won't boot with read preamble at 7 either, i've heard it's a bios issue.
With bios 704-2bta it should be possible.


I think I tried it with 704-2bta but I can't remember....just recently backed down to 603. Hmmm...maybe I will give it a shot, right now I am testing single sticks. How long will OCZ accept RMA's for?

foofreaknfighte
10-19-2005, 08:16 AM
Don't change them in Windows if you can't, somethings just don't like to be changed....anyway, keep them at 8ns and 7.5ns respectively, most people have had their best OCs with those values.


My PA is booting up at 5ns now... and my MAL is at 7. Not sure why it changed.

Zeus
10-19-2005, 08:45 AM
This CPU amazes me more and more every day, it passes OCCT test at 3000MHz with a lousy 1.39V. :eek:

Watercooled in an 20C ambient.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38782&stc=1

I have to be honest, this is single channel cause one of my RAM modules broke. :(

mongoled
10-19-2005, 09:11 AM
This CPU amazes me more and more every day, it passes OCCT test at 3000MHz with a lousy 1.39V. :eek:

Watercooled in an 20C ambient.

I have to be honest, this is single channel cause one of my RAM modules broke. :(
Hey Zeus,

Will be interested to see if you have a difference in OC once you are running dual channel again. Oh and I keep seeing you mention the voltage tht your CPU needs. Even though the software u use reads 1.39v I very much doubt tht the CPU is being given 1.39v. Only one way to find out (which we already discussed) but I imagine tht your brd is like the other DFI boards then your 1.39v is probably more like 1.44-1.48v! Big difference ;)

Zeus
10-19-2005, 09:37 AM
You're right about the voltage, i set 1.425V in bios and in windows it shows at 1.39V

Still, it's pretty obvious these cpu's run very fast at very low voltage.

Have to see about DC, it might need a tad more voltage, i will report back as soon as i have new RAM. ;)

foofreaknfighte
10-19-2005, 09:56 AM
Mine won't boot with read preamble at 7 either, i've heard it's a bios issue.
With bios 704-2bta it should be possible.


Tried the new BIOS and it doesn't work either. The only way I can loosen those timings is if I use a divider. In other news....I hit 3ghz on 1.43v, or whatever it really ends up being. Load temps 34c

freestylercs
10-19-2005, 09:58 AM
Well, here is a prime pic of my 144er. For prime i had to run with 200/166er, and my BH5 are at the end.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/freestylercs/hpbimg/3000MHz@1,39V%20Primelarge.JPG

free

Zeus
10-19-2005, 11:00 AM
Freestylercs, is that the CPU from ebay? :D

Can you do OCCT at that speed/voltage?

t-max
10-19-2005, 11:59 AM
I got my opteron 148 from Ewiz earlyer this day

its a Cabye 528 GPMW

so far i have reached 3125 as max clock for 3dmarks and 1M super pi
This is on water with the IHS on (i will get a LS in a couple of days and i am not sure if the evap can make contagt to the core if i go naked)

Super pi 1M at 26,422 sek @ 3.125mhz :banana:

3Dmark01 40.288marks @ 3.120mhz :banana:

it is prime stable at 3ghz @ 1,6 v.core i wont go further because it runs very hot

Runner
10-19-2005, 12:02 PM
If I loosen the preamble or MAL in the BIOS the computer won't boot either. I can tighten them though. SInce I have DDR500 theses shouldn't be topping out at 215 right? Here is my tweaker shot...

Do they top out even if you drop the main bank of timings to 2.5-4-4-8? What voltage are you running them? The rest of the timings should be ok, nice 3ghz btw :)

periquitos
10-19-2005, 12:26 PM
Mine arrived today.

Its a 148 I bought wed 12 on compumusic.

CABYE 0528GPMW

the last 4 digits is 0100...


tomorow I will test... I was especting a cabne , the guys from compumusic told me that ... but I was lucky it wasn´t a bad stepping.

foofreaknfighte
10-19-2005, 12:44 PM
Going for my non-clockgen 3ghz screenshot....I am a little worried that my pwm temp is high, its TOUCHING 60c every now and then :eek: Is that ok? And yes my memory tops out no matter what the timings are it seems. I currently have the RAMv set to 2.7, but I have tried 2.6 and 2.8 as well. I really can't believe thats its a problem with the sticks.

xenolith
10-19-2005, 12:56 PM
60C is too high. Anything above 55C and your chip is in the danger zone. I don't like it to go above 50C personally.

What's it's maxTcase?

shimmishim
10-19-2005, 01:13 PM
i'm starting to suspect some issues of contact between the IHS and core.

i got my 148 CABYE today as well and even at 1.45 volts, mine is starting to hit 60C's with OCCT stability test. (2.8 ghz).

with my 0517 SD 3700+ it never hit above 53C's with 1.6 volts... or do these opterons just run warmer???

Runner
10-19-2005, 01:14 PM
Going for my non-clockgen 3ghz screenshot....I am a little worried that my pwm temp is high, its TOUCHING 60c every now and then :eek: Is that ok? And yes my memory tops out no matter what the timings are it seems. I currently have the RAMv set to 2.7, but I have tried 2.6 and 2.8 as well. I really can't believe thats its a problem with the sticks.

Wow that is high, thats a reading from the area around the chip that controls vcore. Try to get a fan blowing on the heatsinks on the mosfets. Maybe you're having a problem with your board? You have all 4 power connectors plugged in, correct?

Mats
10-19-2005, 01:22 PM
60C is too high. Anything above 55C and your chip is in the danger zone. I don't like it to go above 50C personally.

He said PWM, not CPU. The PWM can do higher temps than the CPU, don't know how much though.

foofreaknfighte
10-19-2005, 01:30 PM
Wow that is high, thats a reading from the area around the chip that controls vcore. Try to get a fan blowing on the heatsinks on the mosfets. Maybe you're having a problem with your board? You have all 4 power connectors plugged in, correct?


Yes, I have all four power connectors in. Is it possible that my board is causing the problem with my ram? Cus I am thinking about RMA'n my ram...or putting my p4 system back together to see how it does.

xenolith
10-19-2005, 01:55 PM
He said PWM, not CPU. The PWM can do higher temps than the CPU, don't know how much though.

Ahh, sorry. IMO, 60C is still too high for PWM. But I'm a cooling freak anyway. :)

NWEng
10-19-2005, 01:57 PM
i'm starting to suspect some issues of contact between the IHS and core.

i got my 148 CABYE today as well and even at 1.45 volts, mine is starting to hit 60C's with OCCT stability test. (2.8 ghz).

with my 0517 SD 3700+ it never hit above 53C's with 1.6 volts... or do these opterons just run warmer???

I'm thinking yes and yes. These are rated at 85w vs. 67w that we've all probably been running, but if people have been getting a 10 degree drop by removing the IHS then I suspect that your first assumption may be correct as well. I can't see the IHS causing that much of a temp difference unless it wasn't making good contact.

BTW, mine's running a little warmer than I expected too. I even reseated the evaporator last night to rule out the possibility of a bad install.

Nettwerk
10-19-2005, 02:24 PM
Got my CABNE 0528GPMW from compumusic today :) I think mine would benifit the ihs removal but it doesnt break 48c load on good watercooling.

http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opterown1488nr.jpg

foofreaknfighte
10-19-2005, 02:47 PM
So does this mean I am being limited by my PWM? My cpu hasnt broken 40c yet....I wanna keep pushing it...I think I am going to need 1.6somthing to get to 3.1ghz spi stable.

foofreaknfighte
10-19-2005, 03:06 PM
Well, my ram is pissing me off still but here it is....3ghz pi stable. :banana:

My PWM was pushing 60C the whole time...my CPU never broke 40c.

ozzimark
10-19-2005, 04:34 PM
i never saw mention about a fan on the top corner of the board. i have a 120mm up there to keep all the important mosfets and ram cool.. pwm is idling at 28c for me

Repoman
10-19-2005, 04:40 PM
What stepping do you guys think the new 146's on ewiz has? Anyone get theirs yet? I noticed the ewiz 148's are CABYE.. so maybe 146 are too..

Sorry I'll just be so pissed If I get a CABGE, it will be a big downgrade from X2 at 2.67ghz

Badge56
10-19-2005, 05:23 PM
I am running my SD 3700 verry stable at 2900 using BIOS 310.
Will the 146 Opty run the same or should I upgrade?
What are you guys using ?

airwolves
10-19-2005, 05:52 PM
Ordered mine from ewiz last wed and I got a 148 CABNE 0528 GPMW

Well My first 30k run in 2001 :toast: :toast:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8759049

It was with default x850xt and My First 3 gig run :) man its fast and faster than my x2 4400 everwas..

Was running the Ballistix 11x273 with 1.5v on cpu.. Guess I could try less volts but wanted to make sure it would make it lol..

Thank you AMD for a great chip as I got a vience, x2 4400 and nothing come close to this..

NYCTeeN82
10-19-2005, 06:09 PM
Ordered mine from ewiz last wed and I got a 148 CABNE 0528 GPMW

How did you get a Cabne? everybody else is getting Cabye from Ewiz, including me. Ordered mine last Monday.....

shimmishim
10-19-2005, 07:09 PM
man... kinda stinks about these cpu's running warmer.

seems strange though that temps are all over the place for people... but then again i guess some people's water cooling is better than others...

i was hoping for 2.9 to 3.0 with 1.5 to 1.6 volts but seems like temps get too high for me.

and i agree NYCTeeN82... strange he got a CABNE while most others including me got a CABYE 0528GPMW.

well i ordered a 146 from ewiz which should be here Friday. i'll be sure to update and let you guys know how that one does.

[XC] 4X4N
10-19-2005, 10:33 PM
This thread convinced me to jump on the bandwagon too :D Yesterday received a 148 CABYE 0528GPMW ordered from ewiz on friday. Pretty happy with my current 3500, but thought I'd give one of these a try. No time for testing now, hope to post some results this weekend.

ben805
10-19-2005, 11:37 PM
Got my CABNE 0528GPMW from compumusic today :) I think mine would benifit the ihs removal but it doesnt break 48c load on good watercooling.

http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opterown1488nr.jpg

Congrats on that awesome chip bro, just be very careful if and when you remove the IHS....$300 isn't exactly cheap, I still haven't decide what to do with mine when I receive them, the TT Big Typhoon will be here tomorrow as well so I"m not sure if I should stuck the massive heatsink on it to test it on air first, or put it straight under the PCICE phase change :D :D

NYCTeeN82
10-20-2005, 12:14 AM
Yes all the people that just recently got Opteron 148's from Ewiz are getting the CABYE 0528GPMW (and myself). Everyone who has this one, post your results. Your max stable results. Not 1M SUperPi, but Prime 12+ hours.

Mines 2805 is stable @ 1.4V. I can't seem to be able to do anything above this. 2850 @ 1.5V or 1.55V errors out in Prime. I hope 2805 isn't the wall. Temps are under 50C on Full load.

eva2000
10-20-2005, 12:20 AM
Yes all the people that just recently got Opteron 148's from Ewiz are getting the CABYE 0528GPMW (and myself). Everyone who has this one, post your results. Your max stable results. Not 1M SUperPi, but Prime 12+ hours.

Mines 2805 is stable @ 1.4V. I can't seem to be able to do anything above this. 2850 @ 1.5V or 1.55V errors out in Prime. I hope 2805 isn't the wall. Temps are under 50C on Full load.
that's a weird one... what prime you running small/large ffts or blend ? try prime95 v24.14

Rufus7
10-20-2005, 12:28 AM
Prime Custom FFT´s In place every 15Minutes changing. Thats maximum Stress for the CPU!! Prime Blend only tests the Ram!!!! And Large is testing the Ram and the CPU!!
Best for the CPU and the hardest Test is Prime95 Version 24.11 and higher.
Ultimate CPU Test.

mbm
10-20-2005, 12:57 AM
I would like to hear from others who have the 146 CABGE. How high they can OC.

D4nnyOcean
10-20-2005, 04:02 AM
If someone were to order one today from ewiz what do you think the best chances of getting a good stepping are and what flavors 144,146,148?

And OEM or Retail? Anyone gotten a CABNE OEM?

F|apDro|`
10-20-2005, 04:43 AM
yay just got my opteron installed ...

Its CABYE :( but it was the best I could get !

Lets hope for some Mhz pwnage! I want it to clock better as my 3500+ that stopped at 2.6Ghz 1.75V :stick: ..

For now the opteron is like 15 C lower in temp idle then my NC wow :confused:

eR1k
10-20-2005, 05:30 AM
yay just got my opteron installed ...

Its CABYE :( but it was the best I could get !

Lets hope for some Mhz pwnage! I want it to clock better as my 3500+ that stopped at 2.6Ghz 1.75V :stick: ..

For now the opteron is like 15 C lower in temp idle then my NC wow :confused:
Where did you buy yours flapdrol? alternate.nl ?

F|apDro|`
10-20-2005, 05:32 AM
yep :) ordered it tuesday

still have to format my bench HD so I can tweak a little :slap:

eva2000
10-20-2005, 06:36 AM
testing 32M at 3007mhz and weirdess experience so far with 2x 512MB Gskill PC4400LE on 180 divider 32M would clonk out 2-3 loops in at 334HTT/300mhz 2.5-4-3-6 at 2.85-2.95v

so decided to try 2x 512MB Patriot PC3200XBL TCCD at 180 divider 32M and would clock out 1-2 loops at 334HTT/300 2.5-4-3-6 at 2.69v

so thought why not try 166 divider with mem at 273mhz 2.5-3-3-6 7-17-2223 with Patriot PC3200XBL

32M
at 2.69v = clonks out 2 loops in
at 2.76v = clonks out 4 loops in
at 2.79v = clonks out 5 loops in
at 2.85v = clonks out 6 loops in

so change from 7-17-2223 to 8-18-2223 loosening Trc and Trfc
at 2.85v = passed in 24m 29s!

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_2/Patriot/PC3200XBL/2x512/1_2/623_2BTA/LDT3X/9x/166/334-273-2.5336-8-18-2223_1.72-1.3-1.6-2.85_3684_dsW4dds1_16clk_9N65_16x7x_dcOFF/superpi-32m_tn.jpg

Prior to this revelation, i was upping vcore with no effect and it turns out it was vdimm that was lacking! So now i need to lower vcore and see what happens :)

Strange is at 300-312mhz 2.5-4-3-6 only 2.69v is optimal for this Patriot, but at 2.5-3-3-6 it handles volts fine!

Perc can confirm this weird experience regarding vdimm as he uses same ram!

edit: Can confirm so far, lowered vcore by 0.025v in bios and tad da!

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_2/Patriot/PC3200XBL/2x512/1_2/623_2BTA/LDT3X/9x/166/334-273-2.5336-8-18-2223_1.72-1.3-1.6-2.85_3684_dsW4dds1_16clk_9N65_16x7x_dcOFF/superpi-32m_168vcore_tn.jpg


further proof

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/Opteron144/CABYE_0536_GPMW_2/Patriot/PC3200XBL/2x512/1_2/623_2BTA/LDT3X/9x/166/335-274-2.5336-8-18-2223_1.70-1.3-1.6-2.85_3684_dsW4dds1_16clk_9N65_16x7x_dcOFF/superpi-32m_tn2.jpg

foofreaknfighte
10-20-2005, 06:40 AM
i never saw mention about a fan on the top corner of the board. i have a 120mm up there to keep all the important mosfets and ram cool.. pwm is idling at 28c for me


Ok I have a theory I am going to throw at you guys, let me know if it sticks. I am wondering if my not being able to get my PC4000 ram above 215 has something to do with them overheating. I know they are in the same area as the PWM and my PWM is reading 60+c at load. Do you think there is a problem there?

ozzimark
10-20-2005, 06:51 AM
there's one way to find out. increase airflow to the point where you're not overheating and try to see if you can go further ;)
sounds like some of your mosfet sinks have bad contact or something :(

foofreaknfighte
10-20-2005, 07:14 AM
I have a another fan on placed on top of my heatsink facing the ram now. Seems to be cooling the PWM about 5c better. I have a feeling it is just the mosfet sinks though. I would reseat those but I heard they are soldered on.

F|apDro|`
10-20-2005, 07:20 AM
my out of the box result :o

not tweaked or stable :o

foofreaknfighte
10-20-2005, 07:50 AM
my out of the box result :o

not tweaked or stable :o


Really pushing that vcore huh. I don't think you will need it that high to get to 3003mhz.

My RAM cooling idea was a no go. The fan over my ram is keepingmy PWM cool though, not sure how important that is. What do you guys think the max temp for PWM is?

ocZZ
10-20-2005, 07:51 AM
not bad, I'm running at 2.95 at 1.55v with my CABYE 148 -- temps are still very high though.

periquitos
10-20-2005, 08:04 AM
Guys , let´s start to post the maxTcase value? already post mine on the tcase thread , but I think will be a good idea to post here (to many diferent cores/steppings on the another...)

I didn´t test my processor yet , all I did was set it to 2700mhz at default vcore and it appears to be very stable (primed by 1 hour and 4 hours rendering a work scene in 3dsmax6)

Please report the complete info (bath, year/week...)

OPTERON 148 CABYE 0528 GPMW

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 148 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2695.40 (245.04 x 11.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C

F|apDro|`
10-20-2005, 08:07 AM
Really pushing that vcore huh. I don't think you will need it that high to get to 3003mhz.

My RAM cooling idea was a no go. The fan over my ram is keepingmy PWM cool though, not sure how important that is. What do you guys think the max temp for PWM is?

neh dont think so ...

My mobo sux cus onboard LAN died cus of OC and since then it does some weird things ...

But as I said this is out of the box :)...

I Primed 260x11 @ 1.6V for 2 hours ... then it gave error ... Max Load temp = 47C ...

Now Priming again and letting it burn in and AS5 settle :). I know vCore = high but I need prime stable ;_;


edit:
my MaxTcase = 57C :(

I like that 65C more pera

Stepping:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38825

el rolio
10-20-2005, 08:19 AM
testing 32M at 3007mhz and weirdess experience so far with 2x 512MB Gskill PC4400LE on 180 divider 32M would clonk out 2-3 loops in at 334HTT/300mhz 2.5-4-3-6 at 2.85-2.95v

so decided to try 2x 512MB Patriot PC3200XBL TCCD at 180 divider 32M and would clock out 1-2 loops at 334HTT/300 2.5-4-3-6 at 2.69v

so thought why not try 166 divider with mem at 273mhz 2.5-3-3-6 7-17-2223 with Patriot PC3200XBL

32M
at 2.69v = clonks out 2 loops in
at 2.76v = clonks out 4 loops in
at 2.79v = clonks out 5 loops in
at 2.85v = clonks out 6 loops in

so change from 7-17-2223 to 8-18-2223 loosening Trc and Trfc
at 2.85v = passed in 24m 29s!

[IMG]*snip

Prior to this revelation, i was upping vcore with no effect and it turns out it was vdimm that was lacking! So now i need to lower vcore and see what happens :)

Strange is at 300-312mhz 2.5-4-3-6 only 2.69v is optimal for this Patriot, but at 2.5-3-3-6 it handles volts fine!

Perc can confirm this weird experience regarding vdimm as he uses same ram!

edit: Can confirm so far, lowered vcore by 0.025v in bios and tad da!

[IMG]*snip

further proof

[IMG]*snip

WOW. i am so happy someone is experiencing this same crazy :banana::banana::banana::banana:!
quickly, lemme post my confused situation, and lookin ato both your comments and revelation and my situation it seems like the same issue!



ok wow. so still tryin to OC this opteron. seems like ive run into a werid wall. with stock vcore i can go all the way up to 277x10. i have the memory on a divider (since no active cooling) at either 183 or 166 with timings of 2.5-4-4-9 and then 14 and 17 for the next two timings... anyhoo... no amount of voltage seems to get me stable at 280x10. it would then seem to me that there is some other issue happening. cuz even with the 183 divider puttin the mem at about 254 which i know its pretty stable at with 2.5-4-4-9 / 2.6v. and of course the 166 divider puts it at about 233. anyhoo. basiclally i can super pi 1M but none of hte larger ones and prime will fail anywhere from half hour to 5 hours. i pretty much stepped up the voce in bits:
ive tried startup +10%
1.375 + 10
1.4 + 10%
1.425 + 10%
1.45 + 10%

1.4 + 5%
1.45 + 3.3%

and note well that with "startup" voltage set and no over % set i went up to 277x10.

one thing i guess i can try is move from the 1.c standard and tccd bioses to a lower bios?
anyone here using an opterOWN with the neo2? which bios been best for you? since i have a CABNE chip right here.

ok. so basically ozzimark was saying something else must be holding me back. all mosfets are sinked, systool and everest shows me that system temps are decent. chipset at like 20°, system temp at like 40° + actually touching the mosfet sinks and that whole area around the socket is pretty cool and has airflow.

but yea, looks like eva had the same experience as me lasst night, only i wasnt able to figure that whole mem thing out since im limited to 2.6 essentially cuz i have no active cooling. hmmmz. any ideas?
oh and i had a buncha screenshots showin the weirdness of what was happening. will post em when i got home as i was still testin all the way till when i left for work.

jahjahbinks
10-20-2005, 08:34 AM
So what's the current XS status on benching those dual core opterons?

foofreaknfighte
10-20-2005, 08:52 AM
neh dont think so ...

My mobo sux cus onboard LAN died cus of OC and since then it does some weird things ...

But as I said this is out of the box :)...

I Primed 260x11 @ 1.6V for 2 hours ... then it gave error ... Max Load temp = 47C ...

Now Priming again and letting it burn in and AS5 settle :). I know vCore = high but I need prime stable ;_;


edit:
my MaxTcase = 57C :(

I like that 65C more pera

Stepping:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38825


I know what you mean. I am priming right now, hoping to be able to prime for 8 hours at 2.8ghz. I think I should be able to do that, and I guess that I could be happy with that...might pick up a CABNE if I see one though.

F|apDro|`
10-20-2005, 09:24 AM
I know what you mean. I am priming right now, hoping to be able to prime for 8 hours at 2.8ghz. I think I should be able to do that, and I guess that I could be happy with that...might pick up a CABNE if I see one though.

well tried 3Ghz @ 1.6V via clockgen ...

it was picstable just as at 1.65V :stick:

LORD
10-20-2005, 09:40 AM
Here's a 150 quick results. I'll probably play with it some more later. At the moment there seem to be some issues with BH-5, the board or mem controller. Maybe bios and or setting? S&M MEM TEST seem to error 3/4 way through at speeds that would complete before ( when San Diego used) tested at 310x11 166 divider as well. Otherwise it's stable. Plays games etc. So will have to screw around with it later and see what's up. Doesn't seem to have any obvious startup probs with subzero. Can't say for Cascade type temps at the moment though...

I'm on a diff comp now so only have this jpg to show.:D

It also boots at 330+ with 10x multi etc.

http://lord.e-access.com.au/Opt150_Spi1mm_12x284.jpg

foofreaknfighte
10-20-2005, 09:58 AM
well tried 3Ghz @ 1.6V via clockgen ...

it was picstable just as at 1.65V :stick:


Try a non-clockgen when you get a chance. I had a lot more trouble keeping pi stable that way...

NYCTeeN82
10-20-2005, 11:36 AM
CPUID: 20F71
APICID: 0
Revision: SH8-E4
Precessor: AMD Opteron 148 (San Diego)
Speed: 2805.00 (255 x 11)
Platform: Socket 939
MaxTCase: 65C
VCore: 1.400V

mbm
10-20-2005, 12:27 PM
CPUID: 20F71
APICID: 0
Revision: SH8-E4
Precessor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
Speed: 2650 (265 x 10)
Platform: Socket 939
MaxTCase: 55C
VCore: 1.400V

F|apDro|`
10-20-2005, 12:48 PM
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 148 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2860.20 (260.02 x 11.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C

ozzimark
10-20-2005, 01:05 PM
MaxTCase: 65C
very nice!

here's my 146:
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2900.08 (290.01 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C

oops, seems that i'm at 2.9ghz :confused: :D

shimmishim
10-20-2005, 02:28 PM
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 148 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2210.19 (200.93 x 11.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C

HermS
10-20-2005, 02:46 PM
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 148 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 3300.84 (300.08 x 11.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C

Xavier1421
10-20-2005, 02:48 PM
oohhhk buddy. it was prime95 and i'll take any other answers :P

vandi!!! thanks for my chip!


Prime, or super pi...similar mathematical error...all stems from the same thing => instability. Ok buddy?

Rufus7
10-20-2005, 02:55 PM
Superpi more tests the Ram than the CPU!

el rolio
10-20-2005, 03:11 PM
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2800.00 (280.00 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 67C

sparkie34
10-20-2005, 03:17 PM
Just got my 148 in today from ewiz. CABNE :woot:


First attempt. Have to run 2T because of running 4x512.

Time to update my sig......This one's a keeper. :fact: :toast:

foofreaknfighte
10-20-2005, 03:46 PM
Well, why pi at 3ghz was fairly easy...getting more than an hour at prime is proving to be extremely difficult. Don't want to bring up the whole pi/prime debate but I am kinda uncomfortable having my computer write files when its math is .1 off.

Whap
10-20-2005, 04:03 PM
OPTERON 148 CABYE 0536 GPMW

Running 1.5v @ 2.85GHz on quiet air Prime Stable 12+ hours; anything over 260FSB fails prime even at 1.65v and with Mem on a divider, maybe my neo2 plat ?

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 148 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2849.16 (259.01 x 11.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C

dinos22
10-20-2005, 04:10 PM
u guys should post these maxtcase values in the thread dedicated for this

sparkie34
10-20-2005, 04:18 PM
Well, why pi at 3ghz was fairly easy...getting more than an hour at prime is proving to be extremely difficult. Don't want to bring up the whole pi/prime debate but I am kinda uncomfortable having my computer write files when its math is .1 off.


Lighten up bro. :rolleyes: I posted a quick screenie like 5 minutes after I popped it in my board. Just wanted to share some quick info. :)

dogsx2
10-20-2005, 04:36 PM
u guys should post these maxtcase values in the thread dedicated for this

I really, really agree. :( Suddenly this thread has turned into a "what's your MaxTcase" instead of an oc thread. I really don't think a higher mtc means higher oc but if that makes your wheel turn, fine. :) Even if it does, you can't find out what it is until you buy the cpu and test it. It's not like a stepping you can hunt for. Or, even a T or N on the cpu that may or may not have anything to do with oc'ing the cpu.

Please try to stay on topic :off: and let's see some more tweaker ss in with the rest of your oc. Also, lets not :horse: over "you didn't prime enough". I thought this was XS.

dogsx2
10-20-2005, 04:46 PM
Well, why pi at 3ghz was fairly easy...getting more than an hour at prime is proving to be extremely difficult. Don't want to bring up the whole pi/prime debate but I am kinda uncomfortable having my computer write files when its math is .1 off.

Then by all means you need to have your computer prime stable. I am fine at 32m or OCCT stable. I am not trying to make you uncomfortable by saying you should just be doing 32m or OCCT, please don't make me uncomfortable by saying I should do prime.

eva2000
10-20-2005, 04:52 PM
u guys should post these maxtcase values in the thread dedicated for this
more importantly post the cpu's idle/load temp and ambient room/case temps you have to achieve the clocks :)

periquitos
10-20-2005, 05:35 PM
u guys should post these maxtcase values in the thread dedicated for this

no way, the another thread its for a64... :D

dinos22
10-20-2005, 05:37 PM
no way, the another thread its for a64... :D
heheheh let's invade the A64 thread heheh

it's easy......as eva2000 said above..............do the OCs....idle load and you can include a screenie of maxtcase as well in there.....that way it's probably more informative anyways

ghost_03
10-20-2005, 05:57 PM
has anybody ordered from monarch? they have OEM 146's in stock, i want to jump on it, but a cabge would be a side-grade for me.

nf4
10-20-2005, 06:26 PM
I think that they posted that they were instock to just hype things up a little and get orders in could be for real though but dont give your hopes up

el rolio
10-20-2005, 08:02 PM
ok fellows, this is where im at. sorry i dont have photoshop installed. i will try and come back to it. maybe i can up the voltage a bit, tho it was superpi that threw the error, leading me to believe it was the memory givng me issues

and here is the cpuz validation http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=44676

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1504/29not16fullscreen2zt.th.jpg (http://img478.imageshack.us/my.php?image=29not16fullscreen2zt.jpg)

the ambient temp as read by speedfan on the 6800 is 29 degrees.

basically i hit that wall at 280 last night, wass given a hot tip that maybe my ram can do a certain speed, my cpu can do a certain speed but the memcontroller cant allow both. so now im runnin ram closer to stock... but it seems there is tweaking to be done as i can do 1m, 2m, 4m, 8m, but not 16 yet stable in super pi.

oh and the concept is, if this is how its gonna be, i might as well put the bh-5 golds back in.
all in all tho, side effect and ozzimark really helped out, thanks guys.

el rolio
10-20-2005, 09:25 PM
aiit folks, got the 32m prime stable. upped ram voltage to 2.75v and also tried a diff combi of VID and % to get where im at of about 1.55 avg.... gosh i hate neo2 fluctuating vcore.

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/7306/29pistablefullscreen5pv.th.jpg (http://img478.imageshack.us/my.php?image=29pistablefullscreen5pv.jpg)

as it stands now im done for tonight. gonna start a prime blend test? i guues thats the best to do and let it run till morn. should be a good 7 hours and hopefully it runs thru the night. *wish me luck!

im pretty sure im pumpin a tad bit more volts than is actually necessary to be stable but its just in an effort to compensate for the wildy fluctuating voltage courtesy of the neo2. *sigh.

ben805
10-21-2005, 12:43 AM
What bios are you guys using for the 2GB Ballistix? can you please post the Tref value, Dram drive and data strength?

dogsx2
10-21-2005, 01:42 AM
no way, the another thread its for a64... :D

Then start your own thread just for MaxTcase. There is no sense of trashing up an oc thread with that. Someone who just gets an opty or is new to the forum and wants to find out about how the opty's oc shouldn't have to go thru a lot of MT posts to find oc info. This tread has pasted up the venice, sd and x2 threads is a short time. Please don't trash it up.

periquitos, your new here, please respect other people threads. If MT is that important to you, start your own thread. Don't hijack. :nono:

freestylercs
10-21-2005, 02:45 AM
OPTERON 148 CABYE 0536 GPMW

Running 1.5v @ 2.85GHz on quiet air Prime Stable 12+ hours; anything over 260FSB fails prime even at 1.65v and with Mem on a divider, maybe my neo2 plat ?



I have got the same stepping here:

148 0536GPMW 0189er Batch

(not so nice as my 144, but really 3GHz)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/freestylercs/hpbimg/148er%20@3GHz@1,52V%20prime.JPG

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