The Official Opteron 939 Overclocking Thread [Archive] - Page 5

dogsx2

10-12-2005, 01:43 PM

CABYE 0536 GPMW received this morning.

Using:
Stock heatsink
Asus A8N-SLI deluxe (max vcore is 1.55v :( )

Looks like I'm a bit unlucky. Maximum stable clock I can get is around 2.75GHz.http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38453

You need more vcore for sure. I don't think with the vcore your using yours is that bad. You are the only one with a CABYE thats posted a 32m ss. That means you are at least pretty stable. The other ss of the CABYEs are only 1m or 8m, along ways from 32m. When the 32m ss come in we will have a better idea how they oc.

Rufus7

10-12-2005, 01:48 PM

Hmm with 1,4 * 113% in Bios i got 36° idle an 50-54 load @2950mhz, eve stock clocks/volts idle is 31° and load 41°. I'am on water cooling and my venice 3200+@2800mhz@1,62v did 25°idle and 43° load. So what the f**k is goin on here :) . I'am too scared to remove the heatspreader :( Anyone ideas how to burnin ? I mean prime fails after 10 mins @ 2980 and these volts. Another problem is that vcore fluctuates 0.2v, did i listed all the problems ? Yes i think i've got it all ;)

Iceman do you have an CABNE or CABGE?
CABNE not need much Vcore for high Frequences. But they heat very good.
Here a Pic under Load of my CABNE on AIrcooling.

http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/1134/2950mhz1312vcoreprimecust25m5c.th.jpg (http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2950mhz1312vcoreprimecust25m5c.jpg)

ken

10-12-2005, 01:57 PM

You need more vcore for sure. I don't think with the vcore your using yours is that bad. You are the only one with a CABYE thats posted a 32m ss. That means you are at least pretty stable. The other ss of the CABYEs are only 1m or 8m, along ways from 32m. When the 32m ss come in we will have a better idea how they oc.

can 2 hours of Prime compare to SP32M? I gotta get back to CS:S so no time for Prime:p
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1808/prime315x97il.th.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prime315x97il.jpg)

update: here is the 32MB :toast:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8766/32mb325x90ue.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32mb325x90ue.jpg)
Im burning my 144 and so far, its getting better :)

dinos22

10-12-2005, 02:02 PM

i left it on CPU burn in last night for 5 hours with 1.54V 2.9GHz and did a 32M run with these settings now.....i'd say 1.52V would probably do the job as well.......it's a slooooooow time.....lots of tweaking ahead :)

http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/7531/32m290mhz25437at29ghzdivider0b.jpg (http://img433.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32m290mhz25437at29ghzdivider0b.jpg)

dogsx2

10-12-2005, 02:14 PM

can 2 hours of Prime compare to SP32M? I gotta get back to CS:S so no time for Prime:p

Im burning my 144 and so far, its getting better :)

Yes, 2 hrs of prime is stable, it's more then I want to do. I would just like to see 32m run, it doesn't take 2hrs and it shows some stability. No knock on your prime. :) One thing for sure, burning does help.

dogsx2

10-12-2005, 02:18 PM

i left it on CPU burn in last night for 5 hours with 1.54V 2.9GHz and did a 32M run with these settings now.....i'd say 1.52V would probably do the job as well.......it's a slooooooow time.....lots of tweaking ahead :)

That looks good, with some burning you got a good chip. :thumbsup:

Justinkoko

10-12-2005, 02:31 PM

WHERE DO I ORDER THIS CHIP?

Sorry for the caps but can anyone please tell me? thanks.. :slapass:

dogsx2

10-12-2005, 02:42 PM

WHERE DO I ORDER THIS CHIP?

Sorry for the caps but can anyone please tell me? thanks..:

No shouting. :nono:

If we knew, we would tell you. If you have read any in the AMD section, you will see they are very hard to find. When they do come in stock, they sell out right away.

Justinkoko

10-12-2005, 02:50 PM

No shouting. :nono:

If we knew, we would tell you. If you have read any in the AMD section, you will see they are very hard to find. When they do come in stock, they sell out right away.

Where all these people buy then? black market? :confused:

Vapor

10-12-2005, 02:59 PM

Yes....the black market.

Well, some of us got it from a private dealer who's all out while others buy it when a store that has it in stock is found. All stores are currently out of stock.

dogsx2

10-12-2005, 03:10 PM

Yes....the black market.

.

:rofl:

Rohan

10-12-2005, 03:20 PM

You need more vcore for sure. I don't think with the vcore your using yours is that bad. You are the only one with a CABYE thats posted a 32m ss. That means you are at least pretty stable. The other ss of the CABYEs are only 1m or 8m, along ways from 32m. When the 32m ss come in we will have a better idea how they oc.

Yeah, I'm thinking of getting an ultra-D, so I can get more vcore, and also get the most out of my RAM. Currently using Patriot TCCD, but it's wasted on this board as if I use a higher divider, I'm stuck with 2T. I also have some Twinmos I can use (UTT I think).

As far as SuperPi goes, I think it's misleading to use it as a stability test. Highest prime I can do is 2.7Ghz. Highest 32M superpi is at 2.75GHz, but prime fails instantly at this speed. 1M superpi reaches 2.8GHz. So prime95 is the only stability test I would trust for 24/7 settings.

Vapor

10-12-2005, 03:32 PM

Just to check....everyone with an Opteron is running 7.5ns as the Pre-amble setting, right?

It's good for finding how well your processor can do and gives a big boost over AUTO (typically--my auto defaults to 7ns :rolleyes: ).

dogsx2

10-12-2005, 03:32 PM

Yeah, I'm thinking of getting an ultra-D, so I can get more vcore, and also get the most out of my RAM. Currently using Patriot TCCD, but it's wasted on this board as if I use a higher divider, I'm stuck with 2T. I also have some Twinmos I can use (UTT I think).

As far as SuperPi goes, I think it's misleading to use it as a stability test. Highest prime I can do is 2.7Ghz. Highest 32M superpi is at 2.75GHz, but prime fails instantly at this speed. 1M superpi reaches 2.8GHz. So prime95 is the only stability test I would trust for 24/7 settings.

You could use a different mb for sure,

I don't want to get into the prime debate, I thought we were showing ss of our new optys? For that 32m does show some stability. However much testing you want to do for your 24/7 is up to you. No matter how long you run prime, it could have failed 1 minute after you end it if you would have left it running.

dinos22

10-12-2005, 03:47 PM

Vapor

10-12-2005, 03:59 PM

They're probably about the same....but most people probably left it at AUTO which is 5ns or so--these won't clock well at that setting.

I think that's part of the reason why we're seeing worse OCs--in addition to CABNEs simply being better. ;)

shadowing

10-12-2005, 04:02 PM

Time to wait for my Opteron 146 to arrive..

Wondering what stepping it is....

Rohan

10-12-2005, 04:06 PM

You could use a different mb for sure,

I don't want to get into the prime debate, I thought we were showing ss of our new optys? For that 32m does show some stability. However much testing you want to do for your 24/7 is up to you. No matter how long you run prime, it could have failed 1 minute after you end it if you would have left it running.

Sorry, didn't mean to start a debate, just wanted to note the discrepancies in my results between the two. In fact, it may have been down to my own mistake. Because I've just changed my preamble from 7ns to 7.5ns with A64tweaker (thanks to Vapor) and prime and superpi are giving much closer results now.

ozzimark

10-12-2005, 04:13 PM

i've used 7ns ..............do you think 7.5ns is better
my mobo is defaulting to 9.5ns with a 100mhz divider :stick:

Perc

10-12-2005, 04:17 PM

i just tried preambled at 7.5 and i lost 1sec on my 1mb score in super pi ... not sure if it made anything more stable or not but i deff lost performnce atleast in that benchmark. ill leave it at that setting and see if it helps me any....

thx perc,

Vapor

10-12-2005, 04:19 PM

What was your previous pre-amble?

Perc

10-12-2005, 04:47 PM

What was your previous pre-amble?

auto :)

thx perc,

ixtapalapaquetl

10-12-2005, 04:47 PM

everyone with an Opteron is running 7.5ns as the Pre-amble setting, right?Great tip! Thanks!

Couldn't figure out why prime kept failing at exact same point again and again (during test 1 8k after initial 1024k series). Looks like this solved my problem.

Thanks again!

Perc

10-12-2005, 05:51 PM

ok well i went back into bios and set pre-amble to 7.0 instead of 7.5 i gained my second back. then i riased the oc to 3100mhz and ran again got a nice 26sec in 1m super pi...

peace perc,

Vapor

10-12-2005, 05:57 PM

Any chance you can run the mod SPI? I have a feeling you're losing like .1 sec but may gain some OCability (YMMV though, I can't boot at anything other than 7.5ns at 3.15GHz and above).

sauria

10-12-2005, 06:18 PM

ok well i went back into bios and set pre-amble to 7.0 instead of 7.5 i gained my second back. then i riased the oc to 3100mhz and ran again got a nice 26sec in 1m super pi...

peace perc,
Nice, where did you get the 146?

Perc

10-12-2005, 06:18 PM

Any chance you can run the mod SPI? I have a feeling you're losing like .1 sec but may gain some OCability (YMMV though, I can't boot at anything other than 7.5ns at 3.15GHz and above).

yeah man you may be right but for now im going to test 7.0 it seems to be working for me. heres a little more progress in my ocing ive just bumped up to 3100mhz and 1.525v in the bios. dammit im getting up there in the voltages now...

peace perc,

sauria

10-12-2005, 06:19 PM

My DFI board Rev is R.AAO, I've had the FSB up to 370mhz stable with stock volts, Haven't tried higher so I suppose this is a good board.
Yes, it is!

ozzimark

10-12-2005, 07:30 PM

Any chance you can run the mod SPI? I have a feeling you're losing like .1 sec but may gain some OCability (YMMV though, I can't boot at anything other than 7.5ns at 3.15GHz and above).
i'm finding that the preamble doesn't effect much of anything, but then again i'm still working in single channel :stick:

gundamit

10-12-2005, 07:44 PM

heres a little more progress in my ocing ive just bumped up to 3100mhz and 1.525v in the bios. dammit im getting up there in the voltages now... You're still scaling normally with that chip. It'll get really interesting once you get to 1.55v and beyond. :)

BTW - My SLI mod went well. I hit 12.1K in '05 with a Venice @ 2.6ghz and my 7800GTs on a quick and dirty run. If I pull the evap head off my 148 and have no condensation, I'll post some 3D on the weekend with the 146.

Edit: Just pulled it and it was a perfect seal. Back on schedule now. :)

ixtapalapaquetl

10-12-2005, 08:09 PM

It'll get really interesting once you get to 1.55v and beyond.Interesting good or interesting bad???

My temps are quite low thus far and I wanna crank the voltage up, but I have been wussing out up to now. Can't get Prime95 to run more than 30 mins or so at 3000 (though SPi 32M is ok). Of course this might be because my memory crapped out a week ago - I can't really know what's up until my G.Skill's come on Friday.

What do you think? Should I push it up? How high?

DrJay

10-12-2005, 11:08 PM

Got my 148 from ewiz on Tuesday. I was going to post some screen shots today but more pressing issues came up. Hopefully tomorrow as I'm at work again.

Anyway, it was the CABNE 0528 gpmw that seems to be comon for the 148s.
Initial OC results with DFI ultra-D and air cooling at 15C.
*3000Mhz is superPi 1Mb stable at 1.456Vcore.
*3100Mhz is 3DMark stable with 1.55, semi-stable with 1.525...but for some reason will not complete superpi 1mb at 3100Mhz even with 1.6 volts. Played with mem settings in A64 tweaker, mem voltage(TCCD), speed, etc....no go.

gundamit

10-13-2005, 01:34 AM

Interesting good or interesting bad???

My temps are quite low thus far and I wanna crank the voltage up, but I have been wussing out up to now. Can't get Prime95 to run more than 30 mins or so at 3000 (though SPi 32M is ok). Of course this might be because my memory crapped out a week ago - I can't really know what's up until my G.Skill's come on Friday.

What do you think? Should I push it up? How high?

If you think you're memory isn't working quite right maybe you could go down to a single stick or drop a big divider on it to push it low enough it doesn't get in the way of your OC. If you do that and Prime comes up okay, push it up a little more if you're temps are okay.

Perc has pretty good cooling so temps won't be a problem, so we should be able to see how that CPU scales with high volts. Good, bad, ... that remains to be seen.

Perc

10-13-2005, 02:28 AM

Perc has pretty good cooling so temps won't be a problem, so we should be able to see how that CPU scales with high volts. Good, bad, ... that remains to be seen.

well man i would have to say that at 1.55v in the bios doesnt help my stableness at all when at 3100mhz it will run for long periods of times then out of the blue the system will freeze:shrug: plus the heat at that voltage is just as hot or hotter then my x2 chip was!! these things put off heat big time when getting in the 1.5v and up.... i backed it off to 2900mhz at 1.4v to do some more burn in ill try the higher voltages and ocs later to see if it helps any.. ill post more later..

peace perc,

ben805

10-13-2005, 02:35 AM

Interesting good or interesting bad???

My temps are quite low thus far and I wanna crank the voltage up, but I have been wussing out up to now. Can't get Prime95 to run more than 30 mins or so at 3000 (though SPi 32M is ok). Of course this might be because my memory crapped out a week ago - I can't really know what's up until my G.Skill's come on Friday.

What do you think? Should I push it up? How high?

I'd ordered two 148 opty from compumusic.com, you think by any chance I might get the same steppings as yours? looks like all CABNE 0528 are very good clocker so I hope I'll get lucky otherwise ewiz have them for 40 bucks cheaper!! if both of them turns out to be same stepping then I'll return either one :D :D

Vapor

10-13-2005, 02:36 AM

ben805

10-13-2005, 02:39 AM

well man i would have to say that at 1.55v in the bios doesnt help my stableness at all when at 3100mhz it will run for long periods of times then out of the blue the system will freeze:shrug: plus the heat at that voltage is just as hot or hotter then my x2 chip was!! these things put off heat big time when getting in the 1.5v and up.... i backed it off to 2900mhz at 1.4v to do some more burn in ill try the higher voltages and ocs later to see if it helps any.. ill post more later..

peace perc,

what cooling you use for that opty? phase change or water? man...it doesn't sound too good if it's running as hot as the X2 :lol:

el rolio

10-13-2005, 02:41 AM

I've noticed these things dump less and less heat if you really crank up the voltage for a bit and run it hard....unfortunately you need good cooling to handle it and not everyone has that. It might work at lower speeds with a high voltage burnin, but I doubt it.

Anyway, for those of you who have decent cooling and want to lower temps....raise the volts of your CABNE, burn it in and temps will be MUCH lower.

Perc--the BSODs at 3100MHz is just what happens when you run at an unstable speed, eventually it'll crash Windows.

im on water, and i can turn my fans up to high for this burn in. how long you think i should run that for? a day? 2 days? i DEF need the positiv burn in effect to essentially make sure it puts out as least heat as possible at or below 3ghz

Vapor

10-13-2005, 02:48 AM

There's that method to burn in, which worked for me but no one else has tried it (so no corroborating data yet--maybe I was a fluke)....there's also the voltage reducing method of finding your MAX Prime stable OC at any voltage and then running at that speed with less voltage than what is stable, Priming the entire time. When it fails, restart it, keep repeating that process until it works for a VERY long time and then drop the voltage down again.....yes, it takes a while but it DEFINITELY works. You can't lower your usable voltage as far as you want but it's often good for lowering it >.05V.

Of course, a high OC/voltage combo on these requires serious cooling still.....but I'd recommend the method I just wrote out for you el rolio.

Vapor

10-13-2005, 02:49 AM

what cooling you use for that opty? phase change or water? man...it doesn't sound too good if it's running as hot as the X2 :lol:Mine was as hot as my X2....these are very hot processors until you break them in (which not many people have done yet).

Perc

10-13-2005, 02:51 AM

im running phasechange and under a load i see temps of 5c wich is about what i see on my x2 under a load..

vapor: im not getting the blue screen the system will just lock up and like i said it doesnt do it all the time the system can run for 2days or 10mins its random when it does this....

peace perc,

ben805

10-13-2005, 02:53 AM

then I can't expect it to outclock an excellent X2 that I've already got then.....my X2 4200 is dual prime stable at 3.0Ghz @1.53v.

Vapor

10-13-2005, 02:54 AM

perc....are you running with the max multiplier? I had a similar problem where my PC would lock up....turned out it was raising the multi on its own and my CPU couldn't handle it.

And you're only at 3100MHz on phase? I could easily do that on cheap water....you have a whack setting somewhere (or a very bum CABGE).

ben805

10-13-2005, 02:55 AM

Perc

10-13-2005, 03:00 AM

Vapor

10-13-2005, 03:02 AM

Alright, you're running the max multi, it won't change....

The bad timing you have is probably preamble...what is it set to?

Perc

10-13-2005, 03:08 AM

7.5 i went back to your settings. hey when i get off work ill get ahold of you maybe we can compare notes see if i got something set wrong? also i only have like 8 hrs burn in time with this cpu maybe i just need more?

thx perc,

gundamit

10-13-2005, 03:12 AM

i also suspect a bumm timming cause this chip will run 3gigs at the defualt v-core wich usaly is a good sign. the stepping is the famos 0530APMW CABNE. i dont think theres anything wrong with this cpu i think its me... ill figure it out also any tips would help as well.Post a Tweaker shot and I'm sure the many memory gurus around here will point you in the right direction.

Vapor

10-13-2005, 03:12 AM

Should work much faster right out of the box....yeah...let me know when you get off of work, I'll see what I can do to help you out.

Perc

10-13-2005, 03:17 AM

ok thx guys ill be hone around 4pm est time... heres a shot of my memory settings talk to you guys later....

thx perc,

Vapor

10-13-2005, 03:21 AM

Alright, first suggestions just to make sure all's stable....use a mem divider! Second...just set trc = tras + trp in the meantime (10 in your case).

airwolves

10-13-2005, 03:59 AM

Hey Perc how does this thing compare to running a x2 as I have order one and hoping to preform better than the x2 or is it about the same??

Thanks

Vapor

10-13-2005, 04:19 AM

It performs differently....the X2 is a much better multitasker and better for things that are in fact SMP aware....the Opteron is better at benchmarks and non-multitasking.

I have both and I run my X2 for 24/7.

NISCO PT

10-13-2005, 05:18 AM

well its not stable at 3100mhz using 1.55v in the bios im not using my % settings yet so i have some voltages left if i need them. also im running with the 10x multi i dont know how it could raise the multi its self could you explain? i also suspect a bumm timming cause this chip will run 3gigs at the defualt v-core wich usaly is a good sign. the stepping is the famos 0530APMW CABNE. i dont think theres anything wrong with this cpu i think its me... ill figure it out also any tips would help as well.

peace perc,
only 1 tip for you
give some volts in cpu
i have 1 identical steeping and maybe yours need more to scaling
dont have afrayd, mine was at 1,8 and dont burn :D
look,i take off the bios 704, the same you have, because this bios limit the volts to something like 1,7xxvolts and hi need more to brake my records
now i am using bios 623-3. more vcore and the memory table is better
WELL??? :slap:
good luck M8 :clap:

Rufus7

10-13-2005, 05:19 AM

2,951Gig 1,312Vc Aircooled IHS ON CABNE 0530APMW 146 Opti 7H Prime Custom
Ambient 14°C-17°C

[img=http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9552/2951mhz1312vc7hprimecustom2gq.th.jpg] (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2951mhz1312vc7hprimecustom2gq.jpg)

Riverna

10-13-2005, 06:02 AM

Here my opteron 144 apmw 0530. Without heatspreader and cooled by water...

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/8886APMW05302870S16.JPG

Vapor

10-13-2005, 06:10 AM

How about more volts??

kakaroto

10-13-2005, 07:43 AM

I can buy a Opteron 148 with core CABYE.
Are they all 0528GPMW??, didnt ask it.

I analysed this topic and what i see are the following core/week and stepping:

Opteron 144: CABNE 0530APMW, CABGE 0536VPAW and CABYE 0536GPMW
Opteron 146: CABNE 0530APMW, CABGE 0534SPMW
Opteron 148: CABNE 0528GPMW and CABYE 0528GPMW
Opteron 150: CABGE 0534SPMW

ozzimark

10-13-2005, 09:56 AM

There's that method to burn in, which worked for me but no one else has tried it (so no corroborating data yet--maybe I was a fluke)....
went to bed last night with the opteron ~1-2min prime95 stable at 1.5v, 2724mhz, running cpu burn-in. woke up and could get it to just under 2.8ghz, load temps didn't change. i'm at 2.82ghz or so now. i should bump up the volts to 1.6v.. i know my water can take it :D

freestylercs

10-13-2005, 09:57 AM

Is there anybody, having a CBAYE 148 0536 GPMW ??

Tomorrow, i´ll get one of it. Hoping for well results... :stick:

free

kakaroto

10-13-2005, 10:08 AM

Is there anybody, having a CBAYE 148 0536 GPMW ??

Tomorrow, i´ll get one of it. Hoping for well results... :stick:

free

Don't know, never see this on any forum.

Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW are average clockers, worser then the 0530 and 0528...

Let us know, plz

sierra_bound

10-13-2005, 10:24 AM

148 CABYE 0528 GPMW is pretty good. Have not been able to complete 32M at 3.5GHz yet. Requires too much VCore for my cooling. Will probably move to air cooling this weekend.

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4274/347132m0ku.jpg

kakaroto

10-13-2005, 10:27 AM

148 CABYE 0528 GPMW is pretty good. Have not been able to complete 32M at 3.5GHz yet. Requires too much VCore for my cooling. Will probably move to air cooling this weekend.

[Awesome CPU image]

I know dude, but the 0536GPMW was average on the 144.
Week 0528GPMW is :toast:

NiSMo

10-13-2005, 10:32 AM

all us guyz over here in aus are getting the Opteron 144 0536GPMW steppings....

none of them can do 3ghz on water *yet* but are very close indeed.... (29xxMhz)

im getting two tomorrow hopefully they are a decent week, if not i will have to deal with 2.9ghz :)

hopefully my lapped TT Big Typhoon will do the job properly!!

freestylercs

10-13-2005, 12:10 PM

Don't know, never see this on any forum.

Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW are average clockers, worser then the 0530 and 0528...

Let us know, plz

ya, ill do.

by the way , here´s my new 144 0530 APMW 0081 Batch

http://mitglied.lycos.de/freestylercs/hpbimg/144er@3060MHz@1,48V%2032M.JPG

free

Hugo van Dijk

10-13-2005, 12:15 PM

I already mailed tons of stores and the only thing they have all got is, cabye 0536 gpmw :confused:

kakaroto

10-13-2005, 12:21 PM

I already mailed tons of stores and the only thing they have all got is, cabye 0536 gpmw :confused:

Have you asked alternate.nl?

freestylercs

10-13-2005, 12:25 PM

I already mailed tons of stores and the only thing they have all got is, cabye 0536 gpmw :confused:

thats the stepping ill get tomorrow. 148er.

free

Hugo van Dijk

10-13-2005, 12:32 PM

Have you asked alternate.nl?

No, they have got the 148 at the moment, But I thought they didn,t to these kind of requests.

kakaroto

10-13-2005, 12:32 PM

No, they have got the 148 at the moment, But I thought they didn,t to these kind of requests.

I called, they have CABYE too, but did not asked the week etc. which shops did you asked?

Nossie

10-13-2005, 12:39 PM

last week i pre-ordered a 146 @ alternate.nl , hopefully they will get them in stock soon :D

RafaDel

10-13-2005, 01:02 PM

I'm affraid when I get mine it will be from a crap step as usual... Anyway maybe some luck with a 148 one!

Ferry82

10-13-2005, 01:14 PM

ya, ill do.

by the way , here´s my new 144 0530 APMW 0081 Batch

http://mitglied.lycos.de/freestylercs/hpbimg/144er@3060MHz@1,48V%2032M.JPG

free

Your on watercooling right?

Can you please tell me your load temps?

dinos22

10-13-2005, 01:38 PM

Heh, I think I said what cooling Im using a few times already
Anyways, XP120 with Vantec Stealth and btw, the XP120 is a BIATCH to mount.

And the holy grail
3Ghz
2M run

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9165/2mrun1sq.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2mrun1sq.jpg)

Edit: Yea the Ultra-D, and well, I only know one Vantec Stealth so probably
yeah all the CABYE 0536GPMW CPUs seems to be similar to mine.....results posted a few pages ago...............here is another which is a bit better.......

there are a few which are stresscpu stable a smidge under 3GHz

freestylercs

10-13-2005, 01:42 PM

Your on watercooling right?

Can you please tell me your load temps?

yes, its under water.
the 0530er really burns .

having a tripple radiator.
The heatspreader is still on top.
>1,45V--->47°C
>1,5V --->50 °C both on primetest

http://mitglied.lycos.de/freestylercs/hpbimg/144er@2900MHz@1,42V.JPG

free

gundamit

10-13-2005, 02:19 PM

Got my modded DFI and 148 under the phase now. Ambient temps too high to be doing anything serious, but I couldn't help but want to take a sneak peek at some 3D. Once I get my water cooling on the cards I should be able to crack 14K for sure.

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/6564/startingpoint3ux.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1317329

volvic

10-13-2005, 02:29 PM

@gundamit:

Now that's a sweet one. :bows:

Perc

10-13-2005, 03:31 PM

man i may sell this and get a 148 i like the way yours is ocing man... ok ill try some of the settings you guys sugested.

peace perc,

ben805

10-13-2005, 03:39 PM

I just got off the phone with compumusic.com to check on my 148 opty status and they've been shipped today, I'd asked what steppings should I expect and he said CABNE 0528, they still have a couple left, so if anybody want the CABNE 0528 you better order it NOW!! can't wait to receive mine :D :D :D

NISCO PT

10-13-2005, 04:59 PM

man i may sell this and get a 148 i like the way yours is ocing man... ok ill try some of the settings you guys sugested.

peace perc,
dont sell, dont be crazy :slap:
you have the best steeping :fact:
try my settings
i allready put near 1,9 vcore only to test and the chip dont die(in prommy i remember)
try put some volts in yours
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/5568/3504mhz5dt.jpg
good luck M8

Perc

10-13-2005, 05:09 PM

hey thx man your right i wont sell :) im going to need some bh-5/utt chips to run your settings. i need to test a few settings tonight im back at 300x10 3000mhz using 1.45v in the bios wich reads 1.402v in cpu-z. i set my ldt to 3x instead of auto i set my tras to 9 my trc to 12 and im going to run some prime see if that helped any....

thx perc,

dogsx2

10-13-2005, 05:43 PM

Got my 148 (CABYE0528GPMW) today and come to the conclusion that on air, so far, there is only about 75 MHz between them. I guess I knew that deep down but was wishing that the 146 or 148 would do 3200 on air, and I don't mean a ss. I am happy with them all but when I got the 144 that clocked so well, I thought the 146 or148 had to be a lot better. I know that a higher multiplier doesn't mean higher clocks all the time. I will keep them all as anyone of them are the best cpu I've ever owned. :D

dogsx2

10-13-2005, 06:31 PM

Emailed Monarch last week about 939 optys and told them even eWiz had them and Monarch is supposed to be the top AMD reseller in US. Here's the reply that came today.

Thank you for your request. We will add this product to our
site. It
should be available within the next 1 to 2 weeks. Please let
me know
if you have further questions. Thank you for your time and
patience. We
appreciate your business.

Dabney

Purchasing Department
Monarch Computer

BrnmccO1

10-13-2005, 07:23 PM

Hmmph. They have quite a good selection of CPU's on Ewiz it seems. I'll have to bookmark them. Too bad their selection of video cards sux0r's tho... no X1800's yet. Forget Monarch, too pricey. Ewiz even has a P-M 780 for <700, and has more Turion 64's than Newegg does, and had them earlier too. How about some Socket 754 OC'ing action anyone? With a stock Vcore of only 1.2 Volts, a TDP of only 25W (less than Dottie 27W), and a max case temp spec of 95, these ought to be good clockers.

I've noticed something interesting about these new Opteron's that noone has seemed to mention: (1)They are not all the same Wattage, (2) they're all stepping E4 (same as Athlon 64 X2, hence the similairities). But the dual-core s939 Opty's are E6!! Yeah, same rev as the new Venice. Now I'm really konfuzed.

The 144 and 146's are 67 Watt, same as a Venice etc.
When you move up to the 148 and 150, surprise surprise, the Wattage goes up to 85.3!
And the uber bad boys, 152 and yes, a 154 is coming soon :fact: (@2.8 Ghz) they are a whopping 104 Watts! :slapass:
Now I see why some users are complaining this is a hot-@ss chip. If I were you, I'd save my money and grab the 146 looks like the sweet spot.

Here's the top dog dual-core 939: OSA180DAA6CD (http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/opteron/details.aspx?opn=OSA180DAA6CD) 1.3/1.35 Vcore, 110 Watt. So if these clock as good as their single-core counterparts; sell those X2's!

gundamit

10-13-2005, 07:54 PM

Lowered the volts a bit because the temps are reading over 0c at load. But at 1.536v I'm failing 32M run half-way through. I'll bump it a little and try again.

I'm all done with '05 now until I get my water on. Made my original goal with just stock cooling on the cards though. 475/1130. FM is reading it too high.

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/1764/2ndrun7du.png

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1318070

Vapor

10-13-2005, 08:06 PM

gundamit

10-13-2005, 08:43 PM

Instead of bumping up the volts I decided to increase the active cooling on my sticks. It paid off. Timings could be tweaked some but I think I want to move over to the BH-5 tommorow.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7051/300x119zk.png

LexDiamonds

10-13-2005, 08:50 PM

Nice results gundamit. 300x11 is where its at on the 148s to be sure! If only I could be so lucky with water... .. Will find out tomorrow I guess. :fact:

BrnmccO1

10-13-2005, 08:54 PM

@ BrnmccO1

Yes....Ewiz seems to be a great place to buy processors....

Anyway, X2s are E6s, not E4s (original San Diegos, Venuses, Opty 244-254, and Opty 844-845 are E4s). E3s are original Venices and E6s single cores are *not* that good. Anyway, on AMD chips, TDP really doesn't mean a whole lot....not to mention that the 146/144s are running EXTREMELY hot considering their TDP.

And the DC Opterons don't seem to be doing any better than Toledo X2s....and 1.27V was my stock voltage on my 4400+ according to CPU-Z, so they don't have an advantage there either.
Sorry. Actually, we're both wrong. Looks like the 512 Kb parts are E4, and 1Mb parts (Toledo?) are E6... unless AMD's own web site is wrong. See for yerself :p:
ADA4600DAA5BV (http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADA4600DAA5BV) = E4
ADA4200DAA5BV (http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADA4200DAA5BV) = E4
ADA3800DAA5BV (http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADA3800DAA5BV) = E4

Oh, and Venices we're never E4's, just the dually opterons, and X2's. Venice/Sandy were E3 then E6.

ozzimark

10-13-2005, 09:02 PM

the only problem is you're not counting total cache when you should be ;)

BrnmccO1

10-13-2005, 09:12 PM

I got ya. But every time I try to edit that post, and click "save changes" the POS locks up, and I have to 'end program'. Grrrr.

Play around with this toy (http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/Default.aspx) if you want to explore all the AMD CPU's and their part#s etc. Very useful.

And here's the one for Opteron's (http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/opteron/Default.aspx)

asianguy80

10-13-2005, 10:50 PM

Oh, and Venices we're never E4's, just the dually opterons, and X2's. Venice/Sandy were E3 then E6.

I thought that before San Diego's(E4) they were Clawhammers? Were Claw's E3's?

DesertShooter

10-13-2005, 11:38 PM

Opteron 148's @ Alternate.nl are CABYE 0536GPMW :(.... that sucks...

LexDiamonds

10-14-2005, 12:23 AM

I thought that before San Diego's(E4) they were Clawhammers? Were Claw's E3's?

E series stepping was a rework of the memory controller and addition of sse3. Chips before these were D and C series stepping.

Winchesters were D stepping (big innovation here was 90m shift)

Claws started as CO and moved on to CG.

Hugo van Dijk

10-14-2005, 01:06 AM

Opteron 148's @ Alternate.nl are CABYE 0536GPMW :(.... that sucks...

Well CABYE 0536GPMW aren,t that bad, but I rather have a CABNE (but i think I,m to late for those).

Vapor

10-14-2005, 01:21 AM

Sorry. Actually, we're both wrong. Looks like the 512 Kb parts are E4, and 1Mb parts (Toledo?) are E6... unless AMD's own web site is wrong. See for yerself :p:
ADA4600DAA5BV (http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADA4600DAA5BV) = E4
ADA4200DAA5BV (http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADA4200DAA5BV) = E4
ADA3800DAA5BV (http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADA3800DAA5BV) = E4

Oh, and Venices we're never E4's, just the dually opterons, and X2's. Venice/Sandy were E3 then E6.Hmm...never realized Manchester was also E4 but it certainly is.... Never said Venice was ever E4....they were E3 and then changed to E6 (not all of them though). San Diegos are going through a similar process from E4 to E6. There also appears to be an E1 for the 2xx series DC Opterons....never saw that one before.

Anyway, carry on.....to the person who said a CABYE was no good without testing it: :slap: CABYEs aren't the bottom of the barrel and CABNEs are just about impossible to find (especially the proven week 30 APMWs).

dinos22

10-14-2005, 01:35 AM

anyone in Denmark know if CABNE CPUs....got a friend over there for the next couple of weeks......it would be nice to get one of those

dogsx2

10-14-2005, 01:50 AM

Opteron 148's @ Alternate.nl are CABYE 0536GPMW :(.... that sucks...

You can't lump the 148's in with the 144's when it comes to the CABYE's. I don't know about the 0536 week but the 148 0528 CABYE is a good chip. I want to see some results on any week and stepping before I judge it. Also, on all three of mine, stressing the cpu for hours at a time will bring down temps and give a little higher oc. I don't think it matters if it's lowest volts at stock or highest oc at any volts, it's just stressing the cpu for hours at a time.

Anyone who has been wanting an opty can still buy a 148 for under $300. It wasn't that long ago I paid $280 for a 3200 venice. eWiz has it right this time on the optys with some good steppings. When they sold them 3000 venices for $118 none of them were great. I thought I would never deal with them but I've bought a few things from them in the week and they are pretty good so far.

gundamit

10-14-2005, 02:04 AM

You can't lump the 148's in with the 144's when it comes to the CABYE's. I don't know about the 0536 week but the 148 0528 CABYE is a good chip. The reason I "opted" to continue testing my 0528 CABYE is because the jury is still out on this one. We already know that the 0530 CABNE are solid. I'm still wondering if Sierra used his mutant overclocking power to get his 0528 CABYE to 3.4ghz 32M stable, or if anyone can get there with the right cooling. I'll hold my 144 and 146 0530 CABNE in reserve until I've flogged the last mhz out of the 0528 CABYE. :D

dogsx2

10-14-2005, 03:08 AM

The reason I "opted" to continue testing my 0528 CABYE is because the jury is still out on this one. We already know that the 0530 CABNE are solid. I'm still wondering if Sierra used his mutant overclocking power to get his 0528 CABYE to 3.4ghz 32M stable, or if anyone can get there with the right cooling. I'll hold my 144 and 146 0530 CABNE in reserve until I've flogged the last mhz out of the 0528 CABYE. :D

I'm saying good because it's not like the 0536VPAW's and I've seen 2 that will do at least 3.3-3.4 under single phase. Also the one I have will do about the same as my other two. Haven't burned it enough to know where it will end up. As you know even within the same week and stepping there is a top and bottom, so far the bottom isn't that bad. Time will tell.

Please, no punds at 6:04am :nono: , save them for pm only. :D

ozzimark

10-14-2005, 05:12 AM

i think it's time to make an official database thread with all the oc results organized neatly. what shall be the requirement for getting in?

gundamit

10-14-2005, 05:18 AM

32M Stable, Tweaker Shot and CPU-Z validation. AIr, Water and Phase categories. :)

ozzimark

10-14-2005, 07:13 AM

sounds good. who has enough time to maintain it? :D

Sinnerman49

10-14-2005, 07:27 AM

Can anyone fill me in on what seems to be the *best* 2x512 ram solution for this processor on a DFI NF4-Ultra?

Thanks....I was able to hit 3ghz on my crappy ram with a MAJOR div unstable, so I'm thinking it's time to upgrade my ram!

RafaDel

10-14-2005, 07:49 AM

What you guys think I should expect from a 148 CABYE 0536GPMW with a good air cooling?

skirms_fr

10-14-2005, 07:49 AM

first clock on opteron 144 cabge under cascade -90

hard to boot at 240 fsb 1.7 vcore on giga k8nsnxp-939, and freeze in windows at 245 :/

this opteron sux a lot :o

on air prime all the night at 1.7 vcore 292 x 9 , and boot at 270 x9

:/

RafaDel

10-14-2005, 07:56 AM

thats the stepping ill get tomorrow. 148er.

free

Hey can you tell us how is your 148 going so far?

Slipknot

10-14-2005, 09:40 AM

CABYE 0536 GPMW received this morning.

Using:
Stock heatsink
Asus A8N-SLI deluxe (max vcore is 1.55v :( )

Looks like I'm a bit unlucky. Maximum stable clock I can get is around 2.75GHz.

Thats not correct: Try this: Setup at BIOS to 1.535V. Then cinfigure with clockgen 1.45V, ya will see with CPU-Z that ya will get 1.58 to 1.616V

mbm

10-14-2005, 09:55 AM

Just order a 146 from overclockers.de they are in stock.
Hope its a goooood one

mbm

10-14-2005, 09:58 AM

anyone in Denmark know if CABNE CPUs....got a friend over there for the next couple of weeks......it would be nice to get one of those

We havent got the Opterons here in Denmark yet.
Just ordered one from Germany. Dont know the stepping though.

kwago

10-14-2005, 10:11 AM

opteron 148 w/ 2x1GB Ballistix DDR 500 , dfi ultra D w/ 7-04 bios
havent really had a chance to really tweak my memory, but it's surely a great start!
cpu temps are at around 39C
http://kwago.com/crap/opteron%20148%20at%202926mhz.GIF

BLHealthy4life

10-14-2005, 10:36 AM

Hi guys. Very stupid question I'm sure but after briefly skimming the thread here, I am still unsure the the Opterons are multi locked or not.

Are they able to go downward in multis?

Thanks!

Ychocky

10-14-2005, 10:42 AM

These Opterons look fantastic. Makes me want to hold off my dual opteron build.

Didn't look at folks locations reading this thread, any Canadian members with info of retailers? NCIX has the 144 listed and shipping early next week.

asianguy80

10-14-2005, 10:46 AM

@BLHealthy4life: Yes they are able to go downwards in multi's

@skirms_fr: what cpu did you have in your mobo before and what was the max HTT you hit with that? What kind of RAM are you running and are you using a divider? I'm not sure what kind of results to expect with cascade so I cannot comment on the performence of subzero temps.

skirms_fr

10-14-2005, 10:50 AM

Naasar

10-14-2005, 11:03 AM

We havent got the Opterons here in Denmark yet.
Just ordered one from Germany. Dont know the stepping though.

how is that motherboard working out for you?.... i am still waiting for my 146 to come from upgrade source. they wont be in till the 25, but i am still looking for a good agp board to put this processor on

mbm

10-14-2005, 11:37 AM

how is that motherboard working out for you?....

Its working OK. Doing 255x10 at 1:1 (2.5-3-3-10-1T)
People are hitting 300mhz FSB and some close to 400mhz.

I dont see it as a super OC board though. I bought it because of the AGP and PCI-E combo. If I had a PCI-E card I would get another board.

Naasar

10-14-2005, 11:44 AM

Its working OK. Doing 255x10 at 1:1 (2.5-3-3-10-1T)
People are hitting 300mhz FSB and some close to 400mhz.

I dont see it as a super OC board though. I bought it because of the AGP and PCI-E combo. If I had a PCI-E card I would get another board.

exactly why i asked. i have a x800xl agp and dont want to buy another card. did u do any mods to it?

kwago

10-14-2005, 11:52 AM

Hi guys. Very stupid question I'm sure but after briefly skimming the thread here, I am still unsure the the Opterons are multi locked or not.

Are they able to go downward in multis?

Thanks!

yeah they are only uplocked

ozzimark

10-14-2005, 12:02 PM

with some ram that does higher mhz, i'm sure i could change the divider to 166mhz for a higher ram clock, but i finally got around to doing some real tweaking. how much more do you guys think i can get out of it? :D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38593&stc=1

(btw, this is with 2x512mb ballistix, one is sorta dead, gives lots of errors in one spot ;))

(also remember that this used to be my max 1m without resorting to chilled water: http://eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_42.png)

mbm

10-14-2005, 01:03 PM

exactly why i asked. i have a x800xl agp and dont want to buy another card. did u do any mods to it?

Ive done the Vcore mod. But it didnt gave me extra OC. Im running at 1,45V now.

ocZZ

10-14-2005, 01:33 PM

whats the max load a 48 cabye should be running at? I am at 1.44v, 2900 and 40c idle 58c load :/

GRAFiZ

10-14-2005, 01:48 PM

whats the max load a 48 cabye should be running at? I am at 1.44v, 2900 and 40c idle 58c load :/

58c is high... but, these Opterons are by far the hotest AMD chips I've ever used, in fact, only my old 3.4 Prescott would run up the temps higher.

With my water cooling setup I have seen load temps hit 55c... although that was at nearly 1.6v.

I'd suggest you look into upgrading your cooling system.

ozzimark

10-14-2005, 02:13 PM

whats the max load a 48 cabye should be running at? I am at 1.44v, 2900 and 40c idle 58c load :/
ouch. took me 1.55v on the stock cooler to get ~62c load temps.

dinos22

10-14-2005, 02:32 PM

gbomb944

10-14-2005, 04:00 PM

Where can the the 148's be had for under 300 dogs? The only one I know of is 318.

Rufus7

10-14-2005, 04:02 PM

146 CABNE0530APMW 2800Mhz 1,232Vc Aircooling TR XP90 Ambient 16°C 24H Prime Custom FFTs i.pl.

http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/7197/2800mhz1232vcprimecustomffts24.th.jpg (http://img425.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2800mhz1232vcprimecustomffts24.jpg)

dinos22

10-14-2005, 04:04 PM

i was doing some testing last night and noticed my hard drive temps were 22C heheheh i remembered your ones Rufus

great CPU btw

Rohan

10-14-2005, 04:21 PM

Thats not correct: Try this: Setup at BIOS to 1.535V. Then cinfigure with clockgen 1.45V, ya will see with CPU-Z that ya will get 1.58 to 1.616V

That worked with my Winchester, but with my opteron, the FID/VID controls are greyed out in clockgen. Anyone else notice this?

Rufus7

10-14-2005, 04:24 PM

And here is the little Pic from the Temperature.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/651/bild239ta.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bild239ta.jpg)

And with 2815Mhz 1,232Vcore is Prime still running since the 24Hour Screen at 2800Mhz.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9531/2815mhz1232vcprimecustom26h5lr.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2815mhz1232vcprimecustom26h5lr.jpg) :banana:

Thx Dinos22,bought a new Cooler. TR SI 120 .Tommorow i will test the cooler.

ozzimark

10-14-2005, 05:02 PM

That worked with my Winchester, but with my opteron, the FID/VID controls are greyed out in clockgen. Anyone else notice this?
yup, same problem for me. clockgen probably just has to be updated to support the opteron :D

ben805

10-14-2005, 05:04 PM

Where can the the 148's be had for under 300 dogs? The only one I know of is 318.

EWIZ sell it for 285

Rufus7

10-14-2005, 05:05 PM

yup, same problem for me. clockgen probably just has to be updated to support the opteron :D

Or you can Try with Systool v0.1 build 617.

ixtapalapaquetl

10-14-2005, 05:12 PM

Hey all, I have a humble request (which you may obviously completely disregard). As more and more of us get Opterons, it gets harder to track everyones names. So even though you stated your stepping 8 pages ago, I have completely forgotten it by the time you post your awesome screenshots! Me too dumb too merember evybodie! Would it be reasonable to request that steppings/weeks be posted above any screenshots? No big deal if you think it is. Anywho, thanks for helping me (or sorry for the inappropriate imposition of my will, pick the one that works for you).

G.Skills are here!!! Tweaking for stability; once they're kosher I'll get some results up. Stupid nF3 board - total drag.

gbomb944

10-14-2005, 05:46 PM

http://store.sun.com/CMTemplate/CEServlet?process=SunStore&cmdViewProduct_CP&catid=131490

Depending on the mobo options I guess you could move a different 939 into the workstation. I've always thought Sun boxes look cool with the big logo on the side. The top is a little square but with some ccfl's behind that front panel it would be sweet.

DrJay

10-14-2005, 06:04 PM

Got my Opty 148 to run 3Dmark'01 @ 3102Mhz on air cooling.

Not exactly a high powered video card though... :p:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8753330

I attached a screen shot of CPU-z. This was not taken at the same time as the 3Dmark score. 3dmark needs at least 1.58 to stabilize.

Although 1.5Vcore will let me do everything in windows (files, surf, etc.)

Cabne 0528 gpmw

ozzimark

10-14-2005, 06:30 PM

Would it be reasonable to request that steppings/weeks be posted above any screenshots? No big deal if you think it is.
i think it's a good idea.. though an even better one would be for someone who has the time and patience to keep track of it to start the "official oc database" with links to various speeds in different stepping categories :D

RafaDel

10-14-2005, 06:56 PM

Perhaps dogsx2 may change his very first post to include an opteron rank with steppings, names, volts, bios, etc...

It shoud be a great improvement to this thread!

mental_empathy

10-15-2005, 02:23 AM

Yep. my (aaustralian) opty 144 CABYE 0536 is doing 3ghz w/ 1.6V on an an8 ultra.

NISCO PT

10-15-2005, 02:49 AM

Perhaps dogsx2 may change his very first post to include an opteron rank with steppings, names, volts, bios, etc...

It shoud be a great improvement to this thread!
isso é que era de valor meu amigo brazuka :toast:

i think that too.
i lost hours to find some post about steepings and results only in this tread!!! :mad:

Riverna

10-15-2005, 03:48 AM

My final prime screenshot. apmw 0530 batch 0052 without heatspreader.

24/7 settings:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/8886APMW05302870S24.JPG

Rohan

10-15-2005, 06:12 AM

Or you can Try with Systool v0.1 build 617.

Thanks, Systool works great for changing VID on my opteron. I can get the max vcore now :)

Riverna

10-15-2005, 07:03 AM

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/88862535SuperPI.JPG

el rolio

10-15-2005, 07:32 AM

hey Riverna, i think i love that wallpaper you got there on your screenshot? you mind posting it? or letting me know where i can find those and others? thanks homie

ps: nice oc, >1.4v pwns

largon

10-15-2005, 08:04 AM

el rolio,
Look here (http://www.parkoz.com/zboard/skin/parkoz_wallpaper.php).

el rolio

10-15-2005, 08:09 AM

el rolio,
Look here (http://www.parkoz.com/zboard/skin/parkoz_wallpaper.php).

why thank you dear sir. :D

see if i can find some widescreen lovin'

gundamit

10-15-2005, 08:42 AM

mbm

10-15-2005, 08:47 AM

Cant find a opteron wallpaper?

asianguy80

10-15-2005, 09:06 AM

Cant find a opteron wallpaper?

haha that's what I was thinking.

dogsx2

10-15-2005, 09:31 AM

Its really hard to stop playing with this CPU! I think I just nudged my way on to the XS 3DMark '05 top ten list.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1323773

Good job, :thumbsup: you keep playing with it and who knows how high your little opty and a pair of 7800gt's will end up.

cool_dude

10-15-2005, 09:44 AM

These seem to be doing great... hopefully i'll get one soon!

gundamit

10-15-2005, 09:44 AM

Good job, :thumbsup: you keep playing with it and who knows how high your little opty and a pair of 7800gt's will end up. Thanks. I keep thinking the 146 might end up being the strongest though. I just need to find more seal string and I'll switch again and give the 146 a crack at sub-zero. I'll try an auto glass place today to see if they have something simillar to the seal string for the Prommie.

Speaking of the Prommie ... I popped the front of my Mach 2 open and strapped a 120mm to push more air through it, and it seems to be helping a little, but it still looks like cooling might be the limiting factor as usual.

Chicco85

10-15-2005, 01:38 PM

Hi guys,

next week I will have an opteron 146 (boxed version)... If I reach good results, you will know. :D

I hope that my neo 2 platinum an my pqi memory will work with the opty without any problems... :) (:party2: )

Bye!

ixtapalapaquetl

10-15-2005, 02:45 PM

Here is a screen from my 148 (CABNE 0528).

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/5550/306x10superpi9jc.png (http://imageshack.us)

The temp above is under load. I don't think I'm going to go any higher until I get water cooling. Will probably even back off some.

Millyons

10-15-2005, 02:54 PM

man the temp aint bad at all

gundamit

10-15-2005, 03:04 PM

Here is a screen from my 148 (CABNE 0528).
The temp above is under load. I don't think I'm going to go any higher until I get water cooling. Will probably even back off some. Good call. I'm really liking your memory. Makes me want to buy a new pair just to bench with. :)

corvus_corax

10-15-2005, 03:13 PM

@ixtapalapaquetl:
Great results!. For 306Mhz, what about your MAL and RPT (read preamble)?

LexDiamonds

10-15-2005, 03:45 PM

Well, some initial results from my new opteron...

It was a 148 0528 CABYE from ewiz.

When I got this chip, I was in the middle of a entire system rebuild. I moved from a Lanparty754 and mobile 3400 @ 2.7ghz to the 939 Optie. Also upgraded my waterblock from a Maze3 to Storm. I had big plans. :banana:

I am using the DFI SLI Infinity board- seems to be a decent board, but not many people are running it, so tweak guides are nonexistant. Wasnt really the best time to buy a mobo with the Xpert and ATI boards coming out, but I figured I would give it a try.

Cooling is a Swiftech Storm, MCP650, etc.

When I first got everything fired up, I could load windows up at 3ghz no problem at 1.50 volts. 3.15ghz Suicide screen was about it. Things looked good and I was sure I could stabilize 3ghz.

Unfortunately, this has been a challenge for the last day. As it stands now, I can only get 32m SPi to complete at 2850. For good water cooling, this is somewhat disapoining for me.

As mentioned, I am on a whole new setup here so there may be some kinks I need to work out. The Infinity board is stable at 320 htt when tested with a 8x multi, so I know its not chipset limited per se. I am running OCZ 3700EB (remember these? :D ) and they are good for about 255 3-2-2-10. This would be great at 3ghz, as using a divider runs them at 250 which would be perfect. Unfortunately, cant get the damn thing stable at 3ghz.

In a fit of drunken rage last night, I kicked it up to 1.675v and it primed for about 30min at 3ghz, but 32SPi still fails rather quickly. I would rather not run these volts 24/7 either.

A big problem with the Infinity right now is there is no Smartguardian app that monitors temps properly, so I am left feeling various parts of my cooling loop for a relative measure. It seems to be running quite a bit cooler than my mobile claw, which is puzzling.

--Along the lines of temps... my flow rate really took a dive when going to the storm and the new Swiftech GPU block. Water stays in the raddy longer now, which may lead to the loop being "cooler", but actual heat removal from the die may not be as good. Any one with a Storm care to chime in here?

Now as stated, the DFI 939 is a new platform for me. Many of the bios settings are the same as the Lanparty (I am using newest 8/31 bios). Does anyone have 2 or 3 BIG "everyone knows these" type tweaks for the DFI that I could try? The threads on the Lanparty boards are HUGE and I'm sure someone could save me some time. Thanks in advance.

Yeah- I am kinda disapointed.. I thought about poping the lid off, but as stated, Im not sure temps are really my problem at this point. Plus, I have a 146 coming sometime in the future that I want to try before I start chopping chips up.

Thoughts? Comments?

:toast:

dogsx2

10-15-2005, 04:02 PM

That mb is junk. I got one to try(think it might be a cheap oc'er) and it died on me in less then a day. Sent it back to Newegg for full refund. I then bought a Asrock sata2 and it is a hard mb to oc(except for the master, misteroadster). I am going to wait until the new mb's come out to buy another. LD, there is no comparison between the board you got and a dfi ultra-D or sli.

I don't trust the mb reviews anymore. Alot of the mb's run 2T or won't go much over 250 on memory.

Another bad thing about the mb you have is there are less then half the memory options compared to a ultra ro sli. Rma it and get something else.

dinos22

10-15-2005, 04:03 PM

Its really hard to stop playing with this CPU! I think I just nudged my way on to the XS 3DMark '05 top ten list.

http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/353/314x114751140stock6bt.png

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1323773
try benching with DQS Skew Mode setting = FASTER (or Descreased something in bios) and DQS Skew = 96................it should give you extra points....something eva2000 came across the other day

Plywood99

10-15-2005, 04:07 PM

Lex, I have the exact same chip 148 0528 CABYEGPMW. Mine is setting on 2.9ghz 24hour prime stable, 32m SuperPI no problem. Running 1.6v through it.

I am on water also. I did drop 17*c when I took the lid off mine, just did it last night. 17 temp drop is huge. Was running 60-61*c load with CPUBURN. Now it loads at 43-44*c. Haven't tried going past 2.9 yet, letting the chip settle in so to speak.

Is there no way to check your temps? What about Systool or Speedfan?

Concerning your Storm block, it is multitudes more restrictive than a maze3, but also the best comercial block you can buy. Although your flow did decrease I'm sure temps are far better.

dinos22

10-15-2005, 04:09 PM

Concerning your Storm block, it is multitudes more restrictive than a maze3, but also the best comercial block you can buy. Although your flow did decrease I'm sure temps are far better.Cathar won't like me saying this but you will have to try and reseat the block at it's finnicky.......eva2000 did 19xmounts to get his FX57 right........

LexDiamonds

10-15-2005, 04:22 PM

Cathar won't like me saying this but you will have to try and reseat the block at it's finnicky.......eva2000 did 19xmounts to get his FX57 right........

Hmmm. Well its not exactly a evap head or anything... Farirly large heatspreader matched with large ridge on waterblock... tightened the set springs equally a bit at a time... not too sure if contact is a problem. I dont think I would have been able to run 1.7v at 3ghz without a :explode: , but I will check it out. THanks for sugestion.

I did drop 17*c when I took the lid off mine, just did it last night. 17 temp drop is huge.

Wow, that is huge. Maybe the CABYEs have bad heatspreader contact that was just overcome by the brute power of phase by a few people?

I still dont think temps are my problem... I am more inclined to believe my board is a POS, but still unsure at this point. Still hoping someone has some DFI tweaks I can try.

sl4ck

10-15-2005, 04:33 PM

LexDiamonds

10-15-2005, 04:36 PM

gundamit is running a CABYE 0528 in that screenshot (on phase)

Plywood99

10-15-2005, 04:37 PM

Lex, on the flip side of my IHS, it looked like the tim joint was very thick, thicker than on my clawhammer and my winnie, don't know why there would be a difference but there is. If you want I can throw up a pic for you...

dogsx2

10-15-2005, 04:42 PM

I have the same stepping 146 and with a TT BT it will run about 48c under full load. The optys I have all started out very hot and with some stressing and the AS5 settling in, they all run between 43-48c under load.

The problem is you only have half the memory settings in the mb you have and SG is about half. The ultra-d is the same price as the infinity with alot more options.

LexDiamonds

10-15-2005, 04:44 PM

If I had a proven mobo that I already knew the limits of and a way to get accurate temps, the HS on my optie would have been a keychain already. Unfortunately, I dont want to be too hasty with that when I dont really know where to source of my problem lies....

Plywood- if its not too much trouble, it would be interesting... I think I know what you are saying about the thick TIM, but pop a pic up so I can check it out.

Plywood99

10-15-2005, 04:54 PM

Here is a pic of the underside of my opty 148 ihs.
The tim looks very thick. The scratch in the middle was made with my fingernail.
But then again I never took the ihs off a cpu before using it for some time. Maybe the stuff goes through phase changes and thins out, I don't know. But a 17*c drop is huge in my book.

On a side note the ihs has the S stamp on it that OPB was talking about. Anyone know what that is? It is on my 3500 Clawhammer ihs also.

http://xs50.xs.to/pics/05410/TimJoint.jpg

gundamit

10-15-2005, 05:11 PM

Thoughts? Comments? Memory set-up always seem to be the thing holding me up. (I'm just getting started on my Patriots again and they're reminding me how sensitive they are to voltage.) Eliminate your stick as the OC party crashers by running your system 274x11 with the 3:4 (150) divider which should take the sticks down to PC3200 speeds. If you still have a problem with 32M stability, try one stick at a time.

What kind of PSU are you running? If you have a spare you can run jumped use it to power your pump and any fans to decrease the load on the PSU feeding your components. If it stabilizes your OC you might want to look for a better PSU.

LexDiamonds

10-15-2005, 05:15 PM

Memory set-up always seem to be the thing holding me up. (I'm just getting started on my Patriots again and they're reminding me how sensitive they are to voltage.) Eliminate your stick as the OC party crashers by running your system 274x11 with the 3:4 (150) divider which should take the sticks down to PC3200 speeds. If you still have a problem with 32M stability, try one stick at a time.

What kind of PSU are you running? If you have a spare you can run jumped use it to power your pump and any fans to decrease the load on the PSU feeding your components. If it stabilizes your OC you might want to look for a better PSU.

Yeah, Ive already eliminated my DDR sticks as the problem. I know from previous experience where they are stable at and have always ran them under this limit thusfar. In hindsight, I was actually hoping to maybe push them a little further with the benefits of the improved mem controller and dual channel as my allies.

I have a OCZ 600, so I know my PS is not slacking on the job. I have my 3.3 pot set to about 3.4 to provide the full 3.2 via bios to my EB sticks.

Thanks for sugestions......

gundamit

10-15-2005, 05:18 PM

try benching with DQS Skew Mode setting = FASTER (or Descreased something in bios) and DQS Skew = 96................it should give you extra points....something eva2000 came across the other day Is this tweak specific to Winbond BH/CH type memory? In any case, when I get back to 3D benching I'll give it a try. Perc is sending me some more seal string so I can swap in my 146 next week. Until then I'm working on my water blocks for the video cards.

ben805

10-15-2005, 05:26 PM

looks like the 148 CABYE isn't too bad either......I'll be happy to get prime stable at 3.30Ghz for 24/7 :D :D

Gundamit, did you removed the IHS or is it still on?

dinos22

10-15-2005, 05:29 PM

Is this tweak specific to Winbond BH/CH type memory? In any case, when I get back to 3D benching I'll give it a try. Perc is sending me some more seal string so I can swap in my 146 next week. Until then I'm working on my water blocks for the video cards.
i think he had a 2GB kit of something and probably TCCD can't remember last time he used BH5

RafaDel

10-15-2005, 05:37 PM

gundamit

10-15-2005, 05:44 PM

looks like the 148 CABYE isn't too bad either......I'll be happy to get prime stable at 3.30Ghz for 24/7 :D :D

Gundamit, did you removed the IHS or is it still on? Still on. It might not make contact with the evap head and if I remove IHS. Also I might end up selling it - some buyers might not like it already removed.

dinos22

10-15-2005, 05:55 PM

i think my 1M time was slightly faster too with this setting

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/2328/fastest1msuperpitime27641s4zj.jpg (http://img437.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fastest1msuperpitime27641s4zj.jpg)

dogsx2

10-15-2005, 06:11 PM

i think my 1M time was slightly faster too with this setting

That's a pretty good time there d22. Is that on wc?

gbomb944

10-15-2005, 06:42 PM

dogsx2

10-15-2005, 06:44 PM

I put a 146 in an old neo2 rig they use in the house. When your used to a dfi with all the memory tweaks and then you only have the basic 4, it really makes a big difference in how much of a stable oc you can get. I didn't want to mess around with the TT BT or the hyper6 so I put a smartcat fan on an old silent boost cooler. If I remember right, the MSI core center did not read temps right. It shows 52c idle but I can feel all around it and it doesn't feel hot at all. Anyway, here's a ss with zero memory tweaks (that's why the time stinks). I could run windows at 3000 1:1 but pi wouldn't finish.

Just realised I had ram on 2t.

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/9346/1462900neo3kd.th.jpg (http://img426.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1462900neo3kd.jpg)

dogsx2

10-15-2005, 07:09 PM

That TIM job does kind of suck. It looks like it maybe had some air pockets unless those voids were left on the core.

As for the infinity tweaks I don't have an infinity or an opti but I'm thinking you might be able to do all the mem tweaks with a64 tweaker.

If the special vids on that board are available you should print the voltage table from the guide and try different variants since some vids of equivalent voltage are more stable than others.

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20823

Systool and speedfan works on some gigabytes which also have the IT8712F which is supposed to be whats on the infinity. http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2477

Not to get OT but post how it goes as I'm curious if the infinity can be made to work more or less as well as the lanparty.

I've had both boards and the lanparty is a lot better board for the same price. Why would you want to pay the same money and then have to use a bunch of software to try to get where the other mb is already? :confused: You also get all the round cables with the ultra, infinity only has 1 ribbon and floppy ribbon. Smart guard is less and all bio options including dividers are less. Dividers and memory setting are the most important on a 64.

It's easy to be curious if something can be made to work if your not the one trying to make it work. :slap:

dinos22

10-15-2005, 08:01 PM

That's a pretty good time there d22. Is that on wc?
thanks....yeah i'm on water................BUT I have some problems with 32M times.........not as bad as AFI but certainly pissing me off.............has anyone else compared their 32M times against their old SD or Venice figures here

1M times are unbelievably fast BUT 8M and 32M times are :banana::banana::banana::banana:house..........

Abit AN8 Ultra with Venice at 2.9Ghz RAM on 263MHz 2.5-3-3-6 (GSkill TCCD)
32M SuperPI 25m 50sec
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/9729/2901mhz1675v32msuperpigskillle.jpg (http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2901mhz1675v32msuperpigskillle.jpg)

DFI SLI-D with Opteron at 2.9Ghz RAM on 290MHz 2.5-4-3-7 (GSkill TCCD)
32M SuperPI 26m 00sec
http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/9705/32m290mhz25437at29ghzdivider6h.jpg (http://img414.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32m290mhz25437at29ghzdivider6h.jpg)

dinos22

10-15-2005, 08:07 PM

Here is the first Opteron 175 with some OCing action from a fellow OCAU member

some more results

2600mhz @ 1.39v 32m Super Pi stable
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7253/26005tz.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=26005tz.jpg)

just for a laugh decided to see how low could get vcore

1.2v @ stock speed 32m Super Pi stable, 0.11v below stock
http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/6297/12v8tt.th.jpg (http://img421.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12v8tt.jpg)

boots at 1.15v but is not stable.
2700mhz @ 1.46v 32m Super Pi stable
http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/9122/2700b2ce.th.jpg (http://img432.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2700b2ce.jpg)
load temps around 46c
2750mhz @ 1.54v 32m Super Pi stable
http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/1240/27501hj.th.jpg (http://img423.imageshack.us/my.php?image=27501hj.jpg)
load temps are around 50C

finally cracked the 30min barrier for both cores lol
yeah one core is happy with 1.46 @ 2750 mhz, the other needs the extra volts to be stable.

gbomb944

10-15-2005, 08:31 PM

It's easy to be curious if something can be made to work if your not the one trying to make it work
I know how bad it sucks to try to make stuff work, which is why I offered what I did, but I didn't tell him to buy it so he could be my guinea pig. :stick: He already bought it and I just offered him some ideas on how to do stuff that he asked for.

Not sure about a "bunch of software" either since everybody loads a64tweaker and the only difference between smartguardian and speedfan or systool is it doesn't come on the cd in the box. Even guys with ut's have to use a custom config to make mbm5 work. Who oc's that doesn't have to load 8 million bechmarks and tweak tools anyway?

There's also about $50 difference between an sli-dr and an sli infinity so they're not the same price. The ultras are the same but then you have to mod the board which is probably better but I've never modded one and I hear they are putting epoxy over the parts you have to connect now to make it harder. Also nvidia is trying to make drivers to fork up the modded boards so if they pull it off the cheap sli goes down the drain.

If he can't use the vid's then that would kind of suck but if he can get his mem with a64tweaker I don't see how he's hurt too bad.

DragonFire

10-15-2005, 09:31 PM

Got my 148 CABNE 0528 the other day and I'm still playing around with it but I got this so far.
http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/9770/test0bx.jpg

xforce

10-15-2005, 11:28 PM

Got my 148 CABNE 0528 the other day and I'm still playing around with it but I got this so far.
http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/9770/test0bx.jpg

Awesome. Where did you buy it ?

:woot:

dinos22

10-16-2005, 01:02 AM

here is some more OCing by that Opteron 175..........it's looking good

2800mhz @ 1.60v 32m Super Pi stable
http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/9761/28006gd.th.jpg (http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=28006gd.jpg)

2850mhz @ 1.65v 32m Super Pi stable
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/3617/28508cj.th.jpg (http://img425.imageshack.us/my.php?image=28508cj.jpg)
load temps are around 58c

needing to increase the vcore more now to get both cores stable. not really happy with the high temps so wont be pushing it any further.
guess I will have to be happy with the performance of dual fx-57s :lol:

heh maybe this chip could hit 3ghz on vapo or water.

those results on XS look familiar dont they dinos? :lol:

Vapor

10-16-2005, 01:06 AM

What kind of aircooling is he using??

dinos22

10-16-2005, 02:16 AM

What kind of aircooling is he using??
TT Big Typhoon

F|apDro|`

10-16-2005, 05:09 AM

anybody heard of this stepping ?

CABYE 0535 XPMW

If so tell me some results :)

Vapor

10-16-2005, 05:15 AM

Somewhere between CABGEs and CAGNEs

sponge bob

10-16-2005, 05:26 AM

0536 cabye cpgw
what about that?

furyfax

10-16-2005, 05:39 AM

Isn't there a list of OC result with stepping of Opterrons s939 CPU's ?

Vapor

10-16-2005, 05:45 AM

No. There are general rules of thumb though: CABGE < CABYE < CABNE. We don't have enough data to make any other statements though.

uOpt

10-16-2005, 07:05 AM

Dinos22, do you know what the markings/week on that 175 are?

skirms_fr

10-16-2005, 07:28 AM

No. There are general rules of thumb though: CABGE < CABYE < CABNE. We don't have enough data to make any other statements though.

CABGE SUX yaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh :slapass:

AgentVX

10-16-2005, 09:04 AM

Dinos22, do you know what the markings/week on that 175 are?

I'll answer since he's probably gone to bed...it's a CCBWE 0534SPMW.
( http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?p=5111241#post5111241 if anyone else from OCAU wants to verify)

gundamit

10-16-2005, 09:24 AM

While I'm waiting for some more seal string I decided to start playing around with the Asrock 939Dual I picked up for $70 from Ewiz. There are a few threads showing this mobo has some potential with a couple volt mods. I thought it might be a good match for the Opteron because they're both cheap and the Opty doesn't really require much voltage. Without a volt mod, the mobo only gives 1.45v.

Dogsx2 also got this budget board and pm'ed me that he was less than pleased with it. After reading a bit more I decided to start by flashing it to a OCWB beta bios #1 that I picked up here. (http://www.ocworkbench.com/2005/asrock/bios/betabios.htm)

Like the EVGA mobo I tested, this bios doesn't include a lot of tweaks, but it remembers its bios settings when OC'ing unlike the EVGA. No Clockgen exists AFAIK for this ULI chipset so it had better. :)

Right now HTT seems limited enough that I'm kicking myself for choosing the 144 (while my 146 just sits) to have first crack at this board. The bios started acting a bit strange around 326HTT so this 144 isn't going to see the same 3ghz it saw on the DFI. I picked out some Twinmos CH UTT and threw a big divider at it. Vdimm selections include "normal" and "high" People with Winbond based memory may want to take a serious look at the vdimm mod.

So here's my start point with this mobo.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1246/312x97mr.png

At PC3200 speed maintaining 1T doesn't seem to be a problem, although that been a problem reported by some with this board and I expect it'll rear its head soon.

I have no idea how far this board will get. How much should you expect for $70? A mildly OC'ed (1ghz :) ) stable game platform wouldn't be too much to ask for right?

el rolio

10-16-2005, 10:11 AM

uh, i know this may not be right, but im posting it here anyways. since my 146 is on its way, i wanted to just get a record of my outgoing OC. i ran this computer pre WC at 2.5 all year till sept. this is where im at now. at the very least i could learn some things about my mem tweaking, even tho without active cooling it seems 2.6v is my usable voltage limit.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=43861

this screenshot taken after the 32m completion in superPi

Plague_oc

10-16-2005, 10:31 AM

well i just ordered my 144 from dream hardware, lets hope i get as good results as you guys are getting. my water setup should kick ass

ixtapalapaquetl

10-16-2005, 11:05 AM

148 CABNE 0528GPMW still climbing!

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9723/3120spi32m2uu.png (http://imageshack.us)

Took off the IHS last night, load temps dropped 10C. Vcore above at 1.67 via multimeter, but I am not positive that isn't high (nF3 thing). Also, memory is running at 2T (also nF3 thing). Ambient temp is 18C, final time was 24m 22.326s.

TEDY

10-16-2005, 11:38 AM

so overall important is to get "VENUS" right ?

dogsx2

10-16-2005, 11:50 AM

so overall important is to get "VENUS" right ?

Right :stick:

ben805

10-16-2005, 12:04 PM

Repoman

10-16-2005, 12:04 PM

Hey guys, do you think this place has them in stock? I tried calling but they're closed..

Their availability thing is confusing :stick: http://www.tritechcoa.com/product/562344.html

Deus Falsus

10-16-2005, 01:17 PM

They don't have in stock and according to one of their csr's they've never had them in stock. They told me most likely on the 25th.

TheMeatFrog

10-16-2005, 01:24 PM

:toast:
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3016/3070xf.png

corvus_corax

10-16-2005, 01:45 PM

@gundamit
Hi! About your 144, can you post your value in A64 MaxTcase?

Repoman

10-16-2005, 01:46 PM

They don't have in stock and according to one of their csr's they've never had them in stock. They told me most likely on the 25th.

Damn, just ordered too. I cancelled it though and ordered through tankguys

hopefully they'll let me use paypal since I have no Visa or mastercard :(

gundamit

10-16-2005, 02:32 PM

@gundamit
Hi! About your 144, can you post your value in A64 MaxTcase?Sure can.

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7015/maxtcase1441fc.png

Only 65C. Bah! ;)

corvus_corax

10-16-2005, 02:38 PM

Thanks!! Nice 144 there.
Mine 63C...

gundamit

10-16-2005, 02:46 PM

ixtapalapaquetl and TheMeatFrog both looking very good with Opterons processors showing very different heat/volt characteristics. Fantastic TCC* sticks on TheMeatFrog's post. :slobber:

Millyons

10-16-2005, 03:29 PM

OT but.... you guys have no idea how hard is it being suscribed to this thread and not having a opty yet.....thats the one thing that sux about countries "in development"

sorry just had to say it

dinos22

10-16-2005, 03:47 PM

@gundamit
Hi! About your 144, can you post your value in A64 MaxTcase?
what does that information tell you

gundamit

10-16-2005, 04:02 PM

what does that information tell you

Generally higher number = better OC. Read about it here. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=71044)

Despotes

10-16-2005, 04:21 PM

I've got a 148 CABYE 0528GPMW currently running at 2816 at only 1.36 volts on air (SI-120 34idle-44load--ambient 22.7) Super Pi 1.4 32Mb and OCCT stable.
Is this low vcore unusual for this chip?

dinos22

10-16-2005, 04:36 PM

Generally higher number = better OC. Read about it here. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=71044)
makes no sense still.....all that nonsense posting in the thread provided means nothing unless they compile that data with actualy overclocking results from all those CPUs in some sort of standardised way......also using other info such as vcores, temps, ambient temps, cooling, MaxTcase value at stock/OCd, under stock heatsink, steppings..................once you have that info you can prove whether the MaxT Case value actually means anything if you correlate the data properly and use regression analysis or some other form of data analysis......if you read it now you can just draw wrong conclusions......

ixtapalapaquetl

10-16-2005, 04:47 PM

makes no sense still.....all that nonsense posting in the thread provided means nothing unless they compile that data with actualy overclocking results from all those CPUs in some sort of standardised way......also using other info such as vcores, temps, ambient temps, cooling, MaxTcase value at stock/OCd, under stock heatsink, steppings..................once you have that info you can prove whether the MaxT Case value actually means anything if you correlate the data properly and use regression analysis or some other form of data analysis......if you read it now you can just draw wrong conclusions......Regarding the need for systematic analysis before attempting to draw correlations between OC and Tcase, I heartily agree. I might simply point out that AMD had to arrive at the value the ascribe to a certain chip somehow. I doubt they draw numbers from a hat. My guess would be that it would be similar to a binning process (which would support the theory), but what do I know.

DragonFire

10-16-2005, 04:47 PM

So far this is as high as I have gone.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3245/test22le.jpg

I really do think that 3Ghz is about the max for the CABNE 0528 148. In order to get stable (still testing) at this speed from 3Ghz I had to bump the voltage from 1.47 to 1.55. That is with chilled water, I would think aircoolers would need just a tad bit more voltage to be stable.

I might take my chip up to 1.6V as I have seen others using that much but without phase cooling that just seems way to much voltage just to reach 3.1-3.2Ghz.

In the end I'll be more then happy with just 3Ghz since it's more then what my crappy FX-55 could do. :)

dogsx2

10-16-2005, 05:04 PM

makes no sense still.....all that nonsense posting in the thread provided means nothing unless they compile that data with actualy overclocking results from all those CPUs in some sort of standardised way......also using other info such as vcores, temps, ambient temps, cooling, MaxTcase value at stock/OCd, under stock heatsink, steppings..................once you have that info you can prove whether the MaxT Case value actually means anything if you correlate the data properly and use regression analysis or some other form of data analysis......if you read it now you can just draw wrong conclusions......

I have to agree with you on this one. I don't think it has anything to do with it. Even if it is standardised, memory skills and the memory itself play a big part of the total oc. The only way to really tell if it makes a difference is for one person to do it on the same configuration. Even mb's of the same make and model don't clock the same.

ozzimark

10-16-2005, 05:34 PM

bad news guys, my 144 seems to be topping out at 206mhz with 4 sticks in, 2x512mb pc3500GX and 2x512mb ballistix :stick:
i've always suspected the memory controller to be a bit wonky when nothing over 2.5-3-3 helped memory scaling, but this is kinda lame :slapass:

eva2000

10-16-2005, 05:39 PM

Guys what was the difference in mhz between

1. your max memtest bootable and error free few loops at STOCK vcore

vs

2. your max windows bootable and superpi 1-32M at STOCK vcore

for your Opteron ?

ozzimark

10-16-2005, 05:43 PM

i would assume you mean for the ram in #1 and cpu in #2? is it ok if we use max screen instead of max windows bootable? i don't feel like booting at unstable configs and killing my windows install ;)

eva2000

10-16-2005, 05:45 PM

i mean for cpu max mhz in both #1 and #2 instances just trying to get an idea the discrepancy between the 2 as i just plucked in my Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW :)

yeah sure windows screen is fine

ozzimark

10-16-2005, 05:48 PM

word, i'll get to it soon. there's a huge difference between max 32m and windows screen for me though.. like 250mhz :confused:

dinos22

10-16-2005, 05:56 PM

as i just plucked in my Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW :slobber: :cool: :D :fact: :fact:

eva2000

10-16-2005, 06:15 PM

Okay managed 4 standard memtest86+ test 1 - 8 loops at AUTO vcore at 9x315HTT 2.5-4-3-7 1T = 2835mhz

9X316HTT resulted in errors immediately in Test 0,1,2 in memtest at AUTO vcore

Gonna see how far 1.425v bios VCORE takes me :)

But you can tell it's no CABNE like cpu (they probably do nearer 3ghz at AUTO Vcore ?? ) :(

xenolith

10-16-2005, 06:29 PM

But you can tell it's no CABNE like cpu (they probably do nearer 3ghz at AUTO Vcore ?? ) :(

I read through the first posts and I think even the CABNE's need ~ 1.45 vcore for 3ghz stability.

Now, if only I could get my hands on one...

ozzimark

10-16-2005, 06:51 PM

cpu voltage set to 1.4v (reads to be 1.37v.. dunno how accurate that is), 2x512mb utt-bh at 1.5-2-2 with 3.2v and 133mhz divider:

max memtest boot: 2944mhz
max memtest stable for 1 pass: 2862mhz

i'll get to work on the max 32m and windows screen at 1.4v in a bit :D

dogsx2

10-16-2005, 07:36 PM

I read through the first posts and I think even the CABNE's need ~ 1.45 vcore for 3ghz stability.
...

Some do, some don't.

http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2930occt2gn.jpg :D

3000@1.4v :D

ozzimark

10-16-2005, 07:56 PM

NISCO PT

10-16-2005, 08:10 PM

Generally higher number = better OC. Read about it here. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=71044)
look, mine is good OC :banana:
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/9585/675iq.jpg :fact:

NISCO PT

10-16-2005, 08:26 PM

I read through the first posts and I think even the CABNE's need ~ 1.45 vcore for 3ghz stability.

Now, if only I could get my hands on one...
mine does 32M superpi at 3200mhz rock stable.... with stock vcore
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7756/32mpi320014v1bz.jpg

dinos22

10-16-2005, 08:36 PM

i validated it too, but unfortunately i hit f7 before cpu-z updated, so doesn't hitting F5 only give you a BMP image in CPUID folder rather than validation link file :confused:

xenolith

10-16-2005, 08:45 PM

mine does 32M superpi at 3200mhz rock stable.... with stock vcore
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7756/32mpi320014v1bz.jpg

Very nice...if only they all did that :banana: :woot:

ozzimark

10-16-2005, 08:50 PM

so doesn't hitting F5 only give you a BMP image in CPUID folder rather than validation link file :confused:
yup, i hit f7 then f5, it updated between the two, thus why i have a valid as 2894mhz and a screen at 2901mhz ;)

nisco, remind me.. what's the cooling on that? :D

dinos22

10-16-2005, 08:58 PM

yup, i hit f7 then f5, it updated between the two, thus why i have a valid as 2894mhz and a screen at 2901mhz ;)

nisco, remind me.. what's the cooling on that? :D
so does F7 give you the cvb file or whatever it's called

eva2000

10-16-2005, 09:55 PM

yeah, mine is definitly one of the lesser ones unfortunately. it loves voltage though :D

in summary:
max memtest boot: 2944mhz
max memtest stable for 1 pass: 2862mhz

max 8m = 2724.6mhz
max screen = 2901.7mhz

i didn't have the patience for 32m, so here's the max 8m shot:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38720&stc=1
subtract 9mhz for max 32m ;)

here's max screen:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38721&stc=1
i validated it too, but unfortunately i hit f7 before cpu-z updated, so the validation is only 2894mhz :slapass:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=43936

thanks just the info i wanted... :)

with my Opteron 144 0536 GPMW

so far memtest looks like this all 1:1 mem/cpu

AUTO Vcore = 2826mhz
1.425v = 2835mhz
1.45v = 2880mhz - 6 full loops
1.475v = 2906mhz 6 loops so far (this is 9x323mhz 2.5-4-3-7 which is the known limit of the ram on FX-57 so interesting to see how much higher it can go cpu and mem wise from here)

1.475v = 2926mhz running memtest so far at 9x325mhz 2.5-4-4-8 so far okay

1.50v = 2944mhz 9x327mhz 2.5-4-4-8 at 2.9v vdimm = test #6 errors - cpu related... so guess this is the point where more vcore is needed heh - but will try 1.50v but up vdimm to 2.95v first to see if it's mem before raising vcore

1.50v = 2944mhz 9x327mhz 2.5-4-4-8 but with 2.95v vdimm passed test #6 no errors, so was vdimm not vcore - so far 2 full loops error free :)

1.50V = 2961mhz 9x329mhz 2.5-4-4-8 at 2.95v so far memtesting okay passed 1st full loop, but 2nd loop at test #8 memtest error, so next stop 1.525v vcore to see if it's vcore of mem/vdimm :)

1.525v = 2961mhz 9x329mhz 2.5-4-4-8 at 2.95v passed 1 standard loop and a half

1.525v = 2980mhz 9x331mhz 2.5-4-4-8 at 2.95v booted into memtest and running up to test #5/6 errors now so more vdimm or vcore ?

1.525v = 2980mhz 9x331mhz 2.5-4-4-8 at 2.98v vdimm same test #5/6 errors, so guess time to run 180 mem divider :)

1.525v = 2980mhz with 9x331mhz with 180 divider mem @298mhz 2.5-4-4-8 at 2.95v standard loop 1st pass error free running up to test #5 in 2nd loop fine so far - 3ghz looks possible you'd think :D

Zeus

10-16-2005, 10:07 PM

What with this MaxTcase thing?
Higher temperature rated chips are best?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38723&stc=1

mongoled

10-16-2005, 11:27 PM

What with this MaxTcase thing?
Higher temperature rated chips are best?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38723&stc=1
Yup mine is 67C also.

Just something which I have mentioned be4 something I think is relevant because alot of the talk here is abt wht vCore a particular chip needs to get a certain mhz.

Its no good saying

'woot, im using 1.45v for 3Ghz stable'

if in reallity your vCore is 1.52v. Why I say this? Well my Ultra-D overvolts between 0.04-0.07v depending on the setting chosen in bios. Another member who posted in this thread (soz cant remember name) also said their DFI overvolts by abt 0.07v, now these are quite large differences from bios reading and mulitmeter reading points.

If their is going to be any chance of correlating data to find if MaxTCase has any real meaning then 'real' vCore needs to be taken into account!!

sierra_bound

10-17-2005, 12:06 AM

Opteron 148 CABYE 0528GPMW

Air-cooled with Zalman CNPS 9500

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3193/bh530640pe.jpg

xforce

10-17-2005, 01:10 AM

Opteron 148 CABYE 0528GPMW

Air-cooled with Zalman CNPS 9500

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3193/bh530640pe.jpg

Where did u buy yours ?

:)

xenolith

10-17-2005, 01:22 AM

Wow, nice work eva2000 and sierra_bound, non-CABNE 3ghz goodness is coming along nicely for you guys.

eva2000

10-17-2005, 01:30 AM

thanks memtest up to 3024mhz so far http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=1536 still some way to go by time get into windows LOL

wadec22

10-17-2005, 01:34 AM

Well guys, I'm done tweaking my opteron 146. I can get it to run at 2.7ghz on 1.488v. I'm cooling it with a Cooler Master Hyper 6+, runs at 38-42c idle, 52-57c full load. A little warmer than I'd like. This is the highest I can get it to run Prime95 24 hours stable. I'm running my OCZ 3200 Platinum Rev 2 on dividers, so it shouldn't be affecting things. Mobo is DFI n4 ultra-d w/ 623 bios. Should I be able to do better? I have the apparently famous CABNE stepping. Love this processor, but honestly hoping for just a little more. I can get it to run Super Pi at up to 2.9 and I can post into Windows at up to 3.1. 2.7 is where 24hr stability ends though.