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gundamit
10-04-2005, 04:25 AM
You might be waiting a while. I think the first small wave that hits the retail channel will either be spoken for (pre-orders/back-orders) or scooped up very quickly. I doubt AMD has scheduled high volume production, especially since it sounds like this stuff sat for weeks after they were available. Retailers may have seen it solicited by AMD but didn't bother to carry it since most of their customers are end-users, not corporate giants. When/if retailers start pushing for more AMD may re-evalutate the Opterons position in the marketplace and price accordingly.

Uhhh ... what was the question again? Oh yes ... I'd go ahead and get a cheap Venice and keep an eye out for Opterons. :)

Le_Petit_Lapin
10-04-2005, 04:25 AM
Anyone know when these stop being on Pre-Order in the UK?

Shark-357
10-04-2005, 06:01 AM
I just orderd me a 146 :p: i should get it in a week or two :slobber:

gbomb944
10-04-2005, 08:04 AM
Other than the cache it'll be a stretch for it to beat your venice. Is that a fully stable 2900?

b|gf|sh
10-04-2005, 09:53 AM
Anyone know when these stop being on Pre-Order in the UK?

Appears the 148's in stock already :cool:

http://www.cpucityshop.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=885&osCsid=d6d1bda0c72d905609248cdccacacf5d

Ferry82
10-04-2005, 10:31 AM
These Opteron cpus suck BIG time!!!!.

second boot @ 2900 with 1.39vcore on XP120 with papst @1000rpm

Still trying.

BioPC
10-04-2005, 10:33 AM
Today i ordered a boxed opti 144 from a german store, 163€ shipped, which i will probably receive next week.
Has somebody already seen poor overclocks?, lets say under 2,8Ghz?
Results to come...(i hope i'm lucky as you mates) ;)

mongoled
10-04-2005, 10:56 AM
These Opteron cpus suck BIG time!!!!.

second boot @ 2900 with 1.39vcore on XP120 with papst @1000rpm

Still trying.

Sure do!! Im only priming @ 290x10 with XP90+low speed 90mm fan with 1.44v

:D

Ferry82
10-04-2005, 11:05 AM
Does anybody now if these opterons have a burn in period because i cant boot @ 3000mhz :(

As5 is also fresh do you guys think this Opteron is gonna suck some more?

ben805
10-04-2005, 11:14 AM
Something is holding me back, don't know what yet, without getting any signs of instability in SuperPi or anything i just get this wierd BSOD.

In other words, i have some work to do. :D

:)

I'm willing to bet the IHS is holding you back, take it off and try again :D :D :D

mongoled
10-04-2005, 11:22 AM
Does anybody now if these opterons have a burn in period because i cant boot @ 3000mhz :(

As5 is also fresh do you guys think this Opteron is gonna suck some more?

Well I can answer your question in a few minutes, im going to go for my first 3Ghz boot. Ive just finished a OCCT test on my computer at 2900mhz (290x10) with 1.44v.

Just going to update my thread then will push for max superPi clocks

xenolith
10-04-2005, 11:22 AM
Does anybody now if these opterons have a burn in period because i cant boot @ 3000mhz :(

As5 is also fresh do you guys think this Opteron is gonna suck some more?

At what vcore? Increase it a little and see what happens.

Ferry82
10-04-2005, 11:46 AM
Now priming @ 2.9 1.4ghz but i tried to boot at 3000mhz with any voltage till 1.5v i think i have a heat problem.

maybe i just must wait till as5 is settelt.(i am only playing with this cpu for 2hours now)

mongoled
10-04-2005, 12:22 PM
Well I can boot at 3.0ghz run superPi 1M and thts abt it. Thts using 1.49v. The temps start going up quite alot.

Going to update my thread....

Zeus
10-04-2005, 12:27 PM
I'm willing to bet the IHS is holding you back, take it off and try again :D :D :D

Your gonna lose money on that one mate. :D
It's not giving signs of instabilty, i can do SuperPi32M at 3070MHz but above that speed it just reboots or gives BSOD: TRAP_CAUSE_UNKNOWN

Maybe i have to raise preamble or something.
It's not the RAM, a divider results in the same scenario. :(

I will figure it out, might be a bios issue.

ATM i'm not unhappy with 3070MHz. :)

Ferry82, i can do SuperPi1M at stock voltage at 3GHz, i must have gotten the better of the 2. :D
The PSU i bought from you helps big time!! :D

Absolute_0
10-04-2005, 12:48 PM
Well I can boot at 3.0ghz run superPi 1M and thts abt it. Thts using 1.49v. The temps start going up quite alot.

Going to update my thread....

Don't forget to do a lot of burn in while the chip is still new. It seems like a lot of you guys aren't burning in much... but i've heard from at least one person that burn in is helping a lot! maybe it was gundamit.

gundamit
10-04-2005, 01:00 PM
Nope not me. Didn't burn my chips in as much as I burned myself out. :D

mongoled
10-04-2005, 01:02 PM
Don't forget to do a lot of burn in while the chip is still new. It seems like a lot of you guys aren't burning in much... but i've heard from at least one person that burn in is helping a lot! maybe it was gundamit.
Yup, indeed sir you are correct

:)

I will be going to bed very soon, just trying to work out the lowest voltage to leave CPU running at 280x10 with CPU Burn-In running all night, im trying out 1.325v in the bios, lavalys tells me my voltage is 1.3v.

CPU is at 42C while doing this, hopefuuly it wont crash while I am sleeping

dogsx2
10-04-2005, 01:32 PM
A 3200 venice on air doing 300x10 is rare, I think I may have seen a few posts at that speed. For that matter any venice doing 3000MHz on air is very rare so there's not much to compare.

Ferry82
10-04-2005, 01:36 PM
Your gonna lose money on that one mate. :D
It's not giving signs of instabilty, i can do SuperPi32M at 3070MHz but above that speed it just reboots or gives BSOD: TRAP_CAUSE_UNKNOWN

Maybe i have to raise preamble or something.
It's not the RAM, a divider results in the same scenario. :(

I will figure it out, might be a bios issue.

ATM i'm not unhappy with 3070MHz. :)

Ferry82, i can do SuperPi1M at stock voltage at 3GHz, i must have gotten the better of the 2. :D
The PSU i bought from you helps big time!! :D

I think your forgetting that your on Watercooling.
I am going back on watercooling soon and i think it will help me bigtime.

Nice too hear your happy with the PSU :toast:

Zeus
10-04-2005, 01:37 PM
Did another 32M run:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38116&stc=1

:D

mongoled
10-04-2005, 01:47 PM
Did another 32M run:
:D
Fantastic run

:toast:

Hopefully tomorrow night I will be joining you with WC, wht is your TMaxCase?
I will be burning-in tonite using CPU 'Burn-In'

280x10/1.3v

temps at the moment 43C,

Damien
10-04-2005, 01:47 PM
wooooo just sent my payment for an Opteron 146, can't wait to get it!

delas52
10-04-2005, 02:00 PM
How do these compare to fully oc'd venice's? FOR GAMES AND BENCHIES?

Eljefe62
10-04-2005, 03:14 PM
Maybe Vandi's got too many responses, I haven't heard anything in a while now. Anyone else finding these anywhere online?

dogsx2
10-04-2005, 03:50 PM
are you using air or water?

VulgarHandle
10-04-2005, 04:00 PM
144's and 146's at www.tritechcoa.com

delas52
10-04-2005, 04:08 PM
Those arn't in stock, I called them.

VulgarHandle
10-04-2005, 04:12 PM
fine, www.tankguys.biz

EDIT: dang, not there either, bah, tired of sites listing them as available and not....

asianguy80
10-04-2005, 05:13 PM
http://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/maxstable7.JPG (http://www.supload.com/free/maxstable7.JPG/view/)

Well I dropped to the 9x multi and got a higher max HTT but my temps went way high during my 8m run. 52C maxed out during the middle of the run. that is with 305HTT w/ 5:6 divider on the ram. I think i'm topped out right now. the ambient room temp isnt too high either. I think it's still pretty good for a MSI board lol vs all your DFI'ers. I'll give it another go later tonight when it's colder and see how it goes but burning in would maybe yeild better results. I think I might just sell this chip and revert back to my sandy.

Vandi423
10-04-2005, 06:57 PM
Hehehe Pr0n

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5039/939opterons1fb.jpg

They all left me though. :(

Confused_User
10-04-2005, 07:00 PM
:(

When will you be getting more in?

delas52
10-04-2005, 07:09 PM
holy isht dude. You have any idea of an ETA for most stores?

gundamit
10-04-2005, 07:29 PM
Hehehe Pr0n
They all left me though. :( Lol. Nothing like teasing the XS members who have already been whipped up into a frenzy. :p: Hopefully headed to XS members. :up:

Damien
10-04-2005, 07:30 PM
Hehehe Pr0n

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5039/939opterons1fb.jpg

They all left me though. :(

So I sent the money for a 146 you don't have? =\

Vandi423
10-04-2005, 07:42 PM
Lol. Nothing like teasing the XS members who have already been whipped up into a frenzy. :p: Hopefully headed to XS members. :up:


All for XS members. :D

I am curious to see what happens because I got to see all of the serial #s. We shall see if there really is a difference.

To anyone who PMed me please give me some time. I will try my best to respond to everyone but when you get 1000+ PMs in a few days its gets pretty hard to do. I had an Economics Midterm today so that didn't make things any easier. :(

Damien
10-04-2005, 07:46 PM
Anyone wanna drop their order so I can get one? =P

Lithan
10-04-2005, 07:48 PM
Tankguys has suggested to me that they will have them sometime between now and the 13th. They didn't want to make any promises so they indicated that the 13th was a conservative estimate, it could be sooner.

Deus Falsus
10-04-2005, 08:00 PM
Question,

Do these opterons have issues running with a memory divider like some venice, I've seen a lot of superpi32m screens but how do they fare in 3dmark2k1 and how long can they hold a loop?

charlie
10-04-2005, 08:52 PM
Hehehe Pr0n

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5039/939opterons1fb.jpg

They all left me though. :(

OMG

wickedld9
10-04-2005, 09:22 PM
All for XS members. :D

I am curious to see what happens because I got to see all of the serial #s. We shall see if there really is a difference.

To anyone who PMed me please give me some time. I will try my best to respond to everyone but when you get 1000+ PMs in a few days its gets pretty hard to do. I had an Economics Midterm today so that didn't make things any easier. :(

The masses...they have overrun Vandi. :( Seriously, the word is out and since no one can find them, they are beating down your inbox. BTW, I just sent you a PM, I hope you can find it. :D

ArcTan
10-04-2005, 09:45 PM
OMGyeah if I had that many, I'd test them all and keep the best one or two and sell the rest :D

Zeus
10-04-2005, 10:02 PM
are you using air or water?

Watercooling.
BI microII-AquaXtreme Z50-RBX
Still need to mount my Weapon heatercore/shroud. :)

Jupiler
10-04-2005, 10:08 PM
Zeus :

where did you get your 146? Alternate?

Zeus
10-04-2005, 10:12 PM
Yes, they had 2 in stock monday, they're both gone. ;)

Dave_Sz
10-05-2005, 02:19 AM
Lower works better? Ok I'm really confused now.

BTW use orange slots for BH5 :)

Yeah, no, both work fine with BH5, actually the yellows are for higher volts, ask the people who dsigned the boards. It depends on the bios as well of course.
I just bought 4 venice chips and now I want this so bad.

dogsx2
10-05-2005, 03:00 AM
Anyone using TCC5 please post your oc results and tweaker ss.

BioPC
10-05-2005, 03:07 AM
Anyone using TCC5 please post your oc results and tweaker ss.
I haven't seen it with TCC5 yet but sure i will post my results as soon as i get my opti 144 in a week.
If i'm able to push the memory as high as my winnie allowed i will be very happy, then i will manage easier the max multi, cause my winnie is crap :)

dogsx2
10-05-2005, 03:16 AM
I haven't seen it with TCC5 yet but sure i will post my results as soon as i get my opti 144 in a week.
If i'm able to push the memory as high as my winnie allowed i will be very happy, cause then i will use max multi :)

I think there is a problem with TCC5. I got a new mb and still have the same problem. I'd like to see someone else run TCC5 in dc above 250.

Sinnerman49
10-05-2005, 03:17 AM
Hehehe Pr0n

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5039/939opterons1fb.jpg

They all left me though. :(



Oooo! Oooo! I see mine! :woot:

BioPC
10-05-2005, 03:33 AM
I think there is a problem with TCC5. I got a new mb and still have the same problem. I'd like to see someone else run TCC5 in dc above 250.

How high did your TCC5 go with your older cpu?
If 250Mhz if highest you can get then you made me worried. :(
Have you tried 702 or 704-BT(A) bioses?

WesM63
10-05-2005, 05:49 AM
w00t my 144 is on its way. Should be here tomorrow :)

Sinnerman49
10-05-2005, 05:55 AM
Just got tracking information for my 146! Should be here tomorrow as well!

afireinside
10-05-2005, 08:18 AM
Hehehe Pr0n

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5039/939opterons1fb.jpg

They all left me though. :(


:slobber:

Good thing I got mine early :D

WesM I haven't seen you around in a while... Good luck with the 144 man!

sponge bob
10-05-2005, 08:27 AM
i ordered 144 opty? how bad they are compared with 146?

WesM63
10-05-2005, 08:40 AM
WesM I haven't seen you around in a while... Good luck with the 144 man!


I know i've been busy. To much work and playing with the car. Feels good to be back thou. Crazy thing is, i didn't even put this winny thru its paces and now i'm buying a opty lol.


Sponge bob,
*scratches head* Most of this thread was about 144's. I'll be happy with a stable 2.9ghz, althou 3ghz is my goal ;)

Damien
10-05-2005, 08:58 AM
so what are the steppings everyone with 144's have? VPAW?

Vapor
10-05-2005, 09:47 AM
Most others have APMW for both the 144s and the 146s....

Ferry82
10-05-2005, 09:51 AM
Now priming @ 2.9 1.4ghz but i tried to boot at 3000mhz with any voltage till 1.5v i think i have a heat problem.

maybe i just must wait till as5 is settelt.(i am only playing with this cpu for 2hours now)

Ok 3000mhz is now stabil on 1,45vcore :banana:

pezskwerl
10-05-2005, 09:54 AM
Ok 3000mhz is now stabil on 1,45vcore

what was the problem?

dogsx2
10-05-2005, 01:16 PM
How high did your TCC5 go with your older cpu?
If 250Mhz if highest you can get then you made me worried. :(
Have you tried 702 or 704-BT(A) bioses?

305MHz-yes, I've tried many bois

Repoman
10-05-2005, 01:36 PM
Hey guys, sorry if this has been posted already, I can't be bothered to read through the whole thread. But Dual core 939 Opterons apparently will be available in the near future :eek:

http://www.tankguys.biz/opteron-dual-core-cache-socket-p-1424.html

Pretty damn expensive, but it will probably go down and if they OC like the single core, it'd definetly be worth it :) Depending on preliminary results, I may be selling my X2 3800

igor0203
10-05-2005, 01:53 PM
I have one suggestion that someone could make a new thread for collecting steppings of those Opterons?

dinos22
10-05-2005, 02:00 PM
I have one suggestion that someone could make a new thread for collecting steppings of those Opterons?
funny that there are only two steppings that i've come across so far

144, 146-----0530APMW...........looks like us Aussies are getting these as well
150------0534SPMW
175------0534SPMW

187(V)URD@
10-05-2005, 05:06 PM
Opteron 144 CABNE 0536 VPAW (from computersmsa)

Eljefe62
10-05-2005, 05:11 PM
So how's the 0536 doing?

eshbach
10-05-2005, 05:29 PM
quick shot on single stage... very odd chip in response to temperature/voltage changes...

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=41898

dinos22
10-05-2005, 05:36 PM
quick shot on single stage... very odd chip in response to temperature/voltage changes...

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=41898
is that the 0536 chip mentioned above your post....nice clocks

eshbach
10-05-2005, 05:42 PM
is that the 0536 chip mentioned above your post....nice clocks

no mine is the 0530.

it will go under cascade friday.

asianguy80
10-05-2005, 05:51 PM
Hehehe Pr0n

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5039/939opterons1fb.jpg

They all left me though. :(

hey look there's my 146...now its in my hands lol i have a 2nd 146 i'm testing out.

Funny thing the first 146 i got from vandi was batch # 50114 and this new one is 50027 closer to 0 and i got it later we'll see how it goes. i'm gonna sell the one that doesn't clock as well :p:

Welz
10-05-2005, 06:22 PM
these optys are lookin nice, keep it coming :D

Vandi423
10-05-2005, 06:38 PM
hey look there's my 146...now its in my hands lol i have a 2nd 146 i'm testing out.

Funny thing the first 146 i got from vandi was batch # 50114 and this new one is 50027 closer to 0 and i got it later we'll see how it goes. i'm gonna sell the one that doesn't clock as well :p:


Man, you got it in 1 day? Next day shipping? I sent all of them on Tuesday because I got all of them at 2:20pm PST Tuesday 10-4-05. Only had about 2 hours to ship them all. :eek:

EDIT: Cool, I guess people in CA got them today. More posts to come. I'll be looking for Major's Opteron. :D

dinos22
10-05-2005, 07:17 PM
I'll be looking for Major's Opteron. :Dheheheheh i knew he was getting some.....he is hooked....let's see if Opteron can improve those 2GB kit speeds :)

asianguy80
10-05-2005, 08:09 PM
Man, you got it in 1 day? Next day shipping? I sent all of them on Tuesday because I got all of them at 2:20pm PST Tuesday 10-4-05. Only had about 2 hours to ship them all. :eek:

EDIT: Cool, I guess people in CA got them today. More posts to come. I'll be looking for Major's Opteron. :D


Yup I heard the mailman come and I was waiting in anticipation already lol bastard came at 4pm :slapass: usually he gets here around 3 but his lazy ass is slacking lately who cares i got mine LOL

gundamit
10-05-2005, 08:19 PM
heheheheh i knew he was getting some.....he is hooked....let's see if Opteron can improve those 2GB kit speeds :) Major is sitting at #2 on the 2gig stickied thread at 300HTT 1:1 with his FX-57. Long odds on his Opteron having a better memory controller, but it would be great to see a side by side comparison with both the CPUs running 300x10. :)

dinos22
10-05-2005, 08:39 PM
Major is sitting at #2 on the 2gig stickied thread at 300HTT 1:1 with his FX-57. Long odds on his Opteron having a better memory controller, but it would be great to see a side by side comparison with both the CPUs running 300x10. :)
i know but MM didn't give it any chilly temps....i think he'll squeeze a few more MHz out of the memory controller under colder conditions.....too bad MM is selling his stuff.....i guess we'll see what happens on Major's rig :D

Ferry82
10-05-2005, 09:34 PM
what was the problem?

Just burning in i guess :stick:

bokis
10-05-2005, 10:50 PM
Anyone tried four sticks of (bh-5) 512mb :toast2:

HermS
10-05-2005, 11:27 PM
I have one suggestion that someone could make a new thread for collecting steppings of those Opterons?

Opteron 148 CABNE 0528 GPMW here, results to come later.

groovetek
10-06-2005, 01:43 AM
funny that there are only two steppings that i've come across so far

144, 146-----0530APMW...........looks like us Aussies are getting these as well
150------0534SPMW
175------0534SPMW

dinos man... what source of information tells you this???

i really would like to hope we get the 0530APMW stepping as well, but i'd hate to get my hopes up unless there's some solid evidence we'll be getting some decent chips...

i'd actually be disappointed with a 2.9ghz chip... i'm looking to get at least 3ghz stable for 24/7 use...

Perc
10-06-2005, 01:58 AM
i know but MM didn't give it any chilly temps....i think he'll squeeze a few more MHz out of the memory controller under colder conditions.....too bad MM is selling his stuff.....i guess we'll see what happens on Major's rig :D

no major sold me the cpu he wont even get to use it. but dont worry ill run it under the phasechange and post all my results :)

peace perc.

Ferry82
10-06-2005, 02:47 AM
Please make some pics.

Pt1t
10-06-2005, 03:13 AM
pic of 50 opteron is nice :D

187(V)URD@
10-06-2005, 03:20 AM
http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/OSABN/ST/CABGE_0536_VPAW.jpg
http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/OSABN/ST/50_CABGE_0536_VPAW.jpg


Pictures from computersmsa :slap:

Pt1t
10-06-2005, 03:21 AM
lol , too big :D

Waxman
10-06-2005, 03:33 AM
This is what I got with my 146 0530APMW for 24/7:


http://www.pcdiga.com/PCDIGA/Outros/cpu-3000.bmp

That's watercooled.

It's not that bad :D

dinos22
10-06-2005, 04:27 AM
dinos man... what source of information tells you this???

i really would like to hope we get the 0530APMW stepping as well, but i'd hate to get my hopes up unless there's some solid evidence we'll be getting some decent chips...

i'd actually be disappointed with a 2.9ghz chip... i'm looking to get at least 3ghz stable for 24/7 use...
the first 146 CPUs delivered are 0530APMW...fingers crossed the rest of them would be the same

groove my man you've orders how many chips again 2,3,4....surely one of them will be a 3GHz 24/7 one......but you and I know that 1MB cache gives a boost so even if it's a 2.9GHz stable you are still going to have a quicker chip than your Venice........once you pop the IHS you are looking even better for a 3Giga :D

dinos22
10-06-2005, 04:28 AM
no major sold me the cpu he wont even get to use it. but dont worry ill run it under the phasechange and post all my results :)

peace perc.very much looking forward to this post :)

WesM63
10-06-2005, 05:59 AM
w00t my 144 is on its way. Should be here tomorrow :)

Just found out my ETA has been pushed back till 10/10. (monday)

Justinkoko
10-06-2005, 06:04 AM
where can i order it officially/unofficially?

links please!

US buyer

koosjebram
10-06-2005, 06:07 AM
Any results for the Opteron 144 CABGE 0536 VPAW ????????

foofreaknfighte
10-06-2005, 06:37 AM
I am hunting for a 144, 146, or 148 if anyone has a lead....

Need one!

koosjebram
10-06-2005, 06:50 AM
Read previous page :p:

HermS
10-06-2005, 07:36 AM
Today I finally got to play around with my 148. :cool:

I didn't mess around with the stock cooling and stuck it straight under my Prommie. I had some major headaches as this is the first time I've needed to use dividers to achieve my maximum overclock, but after checking up on one of eva's divider guides I got it running nicely. Changing Max Async Latency to '9' made a world of difference.

I've only been checking Super Pi 1m so far but here's a brief rundown of what I've managed:-

1.450v - 298 x 11 (5:6) 3280MHz
1.475v - 302 x 11 (5:6) 3322MHz
1.500v - 305 x 11 (5:6) 3355MHz (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38172&stc=1)
1.525v - 308 x 11 (5:6) 3396MHz (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38171&stc=1)
1.550v - 311 x 11 (5:6) 3421Mhz (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38168&stc=1)

Thats as far as I've pushed it and still haven't tightened up the timings yet.

Edit : fixed link - thanks wes

WesM63
10-06-2005, 07:39 AM
Nice Clocks!

btw, ur last pic doesn't work. (3421mhz)

socrilles
10-06-2005, 09:44 AM
If we really want to know what the silicon being used with these chips is, I think the first five letters of the second line indicate it. When people were buying the mobiles these first five letters were the same as the FX53's and people were getting similar clocks (I love my 3000+ DTR) both were CAA2C. I have seen a pic of an FX57 w/ CABCE, and the opterons have CABGE so pretty close and might mean same assembly line/silicon

Edit:

It appears as those the 3700+ and 4000+ are CABGE, while the FX's are CABCE, so it seems more likely these are the same as 3700+ and 4000+ and not the FX

ozzimark
10-06-2005, 09:57 AM
SILICON! no e

but anway, i agree with you. the stepping (CABNE, CABGE, etc etc) probably has a lot to do with the mask used, which production line, transistor type, maybe even wafer quality?
this probably has a pretty large effect on how the chip is going to perform, excluding random defects and such.

Naasar
10-06-2005, 10:39 AM
i just ordered my 146 ......should be here sometime by the end of the month :(

whats the best s939 cooler on the market? xp90 or 120...or the big typhoon :confused:

computersmsa
10-06-2005, 10:52 AM
Opteron 144 CABGE 0536 VPAW
DFI nF4 Ultra-D 702-2BTA
Puit Cooling -> Full = ~ 35°C
Max Stable -> 2729 MHz @ 1.49V

http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/CABGE_0536_VPAW_MS@1.49V.png

Vapor
10-06-2005, 10:55 AM
The first 146s and 144s were CABNE 0530APMWs and the newer ones (148 included) seem to be CABGE 0536VPAWs, so we really have no way to tell what is responsible for any differences in OCability as there isn't any similarity in the steppings (i.e., CABGE vs CABNE comparo would need all else equal while the converse is the same).

EDIT: computersmsa....that's a slightly dissappointing result :(
What exactly is puit cooling? Stock? Have you tried loosened preamble?

cyclepath
10-06-2005, 10:55 AM
funny that there are only two steppings that i've come across so far

144, 146-----0530APMW...........looks like us Aussies are getting these as well
150------0534SPMW
175------0534SPMW
and
148------0528GPMW (CABNE) in UK

computersmsa
10-06-2005, 10:58 AM
Vapor -> http://www.bel-hardware.be/forum/viewtopic.php?id=62
Have you tried loosened preamble? -> Explain me please :)

socrilles
10-06-2005, 11:00 AM
actually that gives us a lot more info LOOK FOR THE CABNE they are FX57 cores!! the newer ones appear to be 3700+ 4000+ cores

Look at the third entry down here (http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~yok/HIGHCLOCK-AMD.html)

and here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75151&highlight=CABNE)

and one more (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=74545&highlight=CABNE)

afireinside
10-06-2005, 11:15 AM
CABGE=what my past 2 very horrible 3700+ san diegos were :(

HermS are you running a gig of ram? I was at 3511mhz with 251mhz 2*256 BH5 to get the same 24s time you got...

HermS
10-06-2005, 12:26 PM
CABGE=what my past 2 very horrible 3700+ san diegos were :(

HermS are you running a gig of ram? I was at 3511mhz with 251mhz 2*256 BH5 to get the same 24s time you got...


Yes AFI 2 x 512 BH-5 @ 244, surprised that it makes that much difference tbh, must be the bank interleaving because my timings are pretty far from optimal at the minute.

RafaDel
10-06-2005, 12:33 PM
wooooo just sent my payment for an Opteron 146, can't wait to get it!

Where did you buy it please... I'm just tired to find the 939 Optyes on preorder only...

Zeus
10-06-2005, 12:48 PM
Played some more, raising Vcore helped, 1.6V did nothing more over 1.55V.

Maxing out at 3140 for SuperPi 1M:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38180&stc=1

Even Improved on 32M, very very close to 3.1GHz

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38181&stc=1

This Gskill isn't doing bad either. :)
Results are watercooled.

This cpu seems to have a rather strange way of telling me it's not stable, instead of giving an error in SuperPi it just bluescreens. :confused:

dogsx2
10-06-2005, 01:08 PM
Played some more, raising Vcore helped, 1.6V did nothing more over 1.55V.

Maxing out at 3140 for SuperPi 1M:

Even Improved on 32M, very very close to 3.1GHz



This Gskill isn't doing bad either. :)
Results are watercooled.

This cpu seems to have a rather strange way of telling me it's not stable, instead of giving an error in SuperPi it just bluescreens. :confused:

Ram is more impressive then the cpu. Good hardware.

HermS
10-06-2005, 01:10 PM
This cpu seems to have a rather strange way of telling me it's not stable, instead of giving an error in SuperPi it just bluescreens. :confused:

Same here, it either works or it don't - no warning... nothing :slapass:

dogsx2
10-06-2005, 01:18 PM
Sticky :woot:

Oden
10-06-2005, 01:31 PM
Feels like the CABNE 0530APMW Opteron 146 is the way to go here... wonder how long those will be available. This is stressful, got to hurry, before AMD realize that the cores doesn't have to be that good.... Guess they allready knows this! Aaaahhh! Panic! :eek:

BioPC
10-06-2005, 01:36 PM
Feels like the CABNE 0530APMW Opteron 146 is the way to go here... wonder how long those will be available. This is stressful, got to hurry, before AMD realize that the cores doesn't have to be that good.... Guess they allready knows this! Aaaahhh! Panic! :eek:

I guess they already knew from beginning :rolleyes: That stepping will be hard to find from now i think, and i'm afraid next ones are gonna "impact" less.
I cross my fingers on my awaiting opti :) .

Vapor
10-06-2005, 01:37 PM
Question for the people that have a non-"CABNE 0530APMW" Opty....are the corners of your IHS raised or sanded down??

Vapor
10-06-2005, 01:47 PM
Yeah, my Opty kicked ass with something accidentally enabled on crappy water (*cough*Ricky tweak*cough*), I'll see what else I can get out of it this weekend....:D

Glad I jumped on early.

dinos22
10-06-2005, 02:01 PM
Opteron 144 CABGE 0536 VPAW
DFI nF4 Ultra-D 702-2BTA
Puit Cooling -> Full = ~ 35°C
Max Stable -> 2729 MHz @ 1.49V

http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/CABGE_0536_VPAW_MS@1.49V.png
damn these new ones are not that great.........what's Puit Cooling

Vapor
10-06-2005, 02:03 PM
Vapor -> http://www.bel-hardware.be/forum/viewtopic.php?id=62
Have you tried loosened preamble? -> Explain me please :)Good description of puit cooling (although I can't read that....French?) through pictures.

Pre-amble timing should be at like 7ns or so.

Zebo
10-06-2005, 02:48 PM
Hehehe Pr0n

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5039/939opterons1fb.jpg

They all left me though. :(

OMG! I know you're slammed but I'd love one...just one is all I ask.:)

Gluck in exams. :toast:

HermS
10-06-2005, 04:17 PM
Pushed my 148 a little further:-

1.600v - 317 x 11 (5:6) 3488MHz (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38189&stc=1)
1.650v - 318 x 11 (5:6) 3505MHz (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38190&stc=1)

It's not scaling so well at these sorts of voltages and I suspect more severe cooling would be needed to push this chip much further... Having said that, I'm very happy with my Opty :toast:

NISCO PT
10-06-2005, 04:19 PM
Question for the people that have a non-"CABNE 0530APMW" Opty....are the corners of your IHS raised or sanded down??
like that??
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9499/cpunisco6se.jpg
my opty 146 do 3050mhz default vcore but only go at 3150mhz and crash
stable +-3100mhz
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8043/bestpiopteron26583s0jr.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8571/pi32ma3050mhz0vr.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3171/cpuz3125mhz8oi.jpg
im using the bios 623-3
best bios for this opterons????
this chip do more or less the same at 1.376 volts and with 1,7volts :(
im using a prommy mach1 moded 404a
dont like volts :slapass:
only gain 50 or 60 mhz with voltage
sorry my english :D

Vapor
10-06-2005, 04:24 PM
Yes, like that....but I'm asking people who have any other version. Yours are sanded down (in case anybody needs reference).

Those results are from on a Prommy? I did better with water....can you show us an A64 tweaker shot?

EDIT: HermS....these don't scale with voltage particularly well with any cooling.

gundamit
10-06-2005, 04:38 PM
Sticky :woot: :toast:

As of this moment Ewiz is showing the 148 instock. But as I learned early this week, that doesn't mean they actually have it in stock. They finally shipped my order today. I'm expecting a CABGE since I'm sure by now the CABNE are long gone by now.

HermS
10-06-2005, 04:46 PM
HermS....these don't scale with voltage particularly well with any cooling.

Understood Vapor, I meant that this one seemed to scale approximately 20Mhz for every 0.2v added then once above 1.6v the jumps grew considerably smaller if you catch my drift.

NISCO PT
10-06-2005, 04:53 PM
Yes, like that....but I'm asking people who have any other version. Yours are sanded down (in case anybody needs reference).

Those results are from on a Prommy? I did better with water....can you show us an A64 tweaker shot?

EDIT: HermS....these don't scale with voltage particularly well with any cooling.
http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/4656/tweaker25cn.jpg
wath bios are you using?

dinos22
10-06-2005, 05:04 PM
Max Async Latency and Read Preamble time are chocking your OC buddy

they need to be a lot higher try 9/8

Vapor
10-06-2005, 05:28 PM
Yuppers....with your Prommy I'd guess you could hit 3.4GHz+ ;)

NISCO PT
10-06-2005, 05:47 PM
Max Async Latency and Read Preamble time are chocking your OC buddy

they need to be a lot higher try 9/8
this mushkins redline can do something like that(i do that now in this moment)
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2191/cenas7wc.jpg
even that you think this timmings is fuc**** my oc?
with the firs settings i can guet 265 fully stable

dinos22
10-06-2005, 05:58 PM
Opterons need those timings relaxed for high HTT....don't ask why
this mushkins redline can do something like that(i do that now in this moment)
even that you think this timmings is fuc**** my oc?
with the firs settings i can guet 265 fully stable

NISCO PT
10-06-2005, 06:17 PM
Opterons need those timings relaxed for high HTT....don't ask why
with the settings you told i cant boot :mad:
i put max async latency at 8ns and read preable at 6ns
any others sugestions :hm:
my windows is a litle broken but i will try
tanks M8s

Vapor
10-06-2005, 06:18 PM
try async at auto and preamble to 7ns

NISCO PT
10-06-2005, 07:23 PM
:banana: :slobber: GREAT FUC****** BANANAS youre right :slobber: :banana:
youre the best
great tanks from portugal :toast:
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/5085/3239mhzpi257825sd.jpg

dinos22
10-06-2005, 07:35 PM
so 7ns did the job

Vapor
10-06-2005, 08:05 PM
Looking good there Nisco--can you get any more out of it?

WesM63
10-06-2005, 08:07 PM
*writes dram timings down..... prays for "CABNE 0530APMW"... and anxiously awaits opteron*

BioPC
10-07-2005, 02:44 AM
Somebody else with a CABGE? please post your results!
I would really be dissapointed if my ordered one cannot overclock to more than 2,8Hgz.

HermS
10-07-2005, 05:48 AM
Further testing:-
32m stable at 3405MHz (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38190&stc=1)

187(V)URD@
10-07-2005, 06:35 AM
Somebody else with a CABGE? please post your results!
I would really be dissapointed if my ordered one cannot overclock to more than 2,8Hgz.

Here's one, but I don't think he loosen up his async timings and preamble.

http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/144/2901_32M.PNG (computersmsa)

Seems this steppings likes a lot of voltage.

Pt1t
10-07-2005, 06:45 AM
Here's one, but I don't think he loosen up his async timings and preamble.

http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/144/2901_32M.PNG Pt1t :D

Seems this steppings likes a lot of voltage.

Ram /166 , preamble 5ns.

Look that vcore !
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/144/CPUMARK_2970.PNG :slapass:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/42188.png

but my water is hot ;)

This CPU like Voltage, but isnt hot ! Highest temp during a SPI 32M @ 1.80v is only 42° (23° in my room).

TooRUde
10-07-2005, 07:25 AM
Ill have some screens up in a sec currently at 2.8 with my opty 146 from vandi.
I had some major problems that lead me to stay up till 4am trying to fix my computer. My raptor drive decided to get all corrupted.
luckily i havnt had to increase the voltage yet, still 1.39. I hope this means I can reach 3 - 3.1 without having to go above 1.55.

Currently running under xp120 (30c idle 39 / 40c max load) till my new tubing and resevoir arrive, then I'll be placing it under my lovely Storm G4.

thanks again vandi!

ozzimark
10-07-2005, 07:49 AM
This CPU like Voltage, but isnt hot ! Highest temp during a SPI 32M @ 1.80v is only 42° (23° in my room).
what stepping is that?

mbm
10-07-2005, 07:53 AM
Where can this cpu be bought?
I cant find it anywhere in stock

187(V)URD@
10-07-2005, 08:09 AM
Ram /166 , preamble 5ns.

Look that vcore !

but my water is hot ;)

This CPU like Voltage, but isnt hot ! Highest temp during a SPI 32M @ 1.80v is only 42° (23° in my room).

Well loosing up the preamble like its been told in this thread. And 1.84V is :stick: too much.

LORD
10-07-2005, 08:38 AM
Where can this cpu be bought?
I cant find it anywhere in stock

Go for an FX 57 instead... You'll get better results!

dogsx2
10-07-2005, 09:14 AM
Ram /166 , preamble 5ns.

but my water is hot
This CPU like Voltage, but isnt hot ! Highest temp during a SPI 32M @ 1.80v is only 42° (23° in my room).

This might be the hardest thing I've read lately to believe. I'm not saying I don't believe in miracles, because I do, but to be at 1.8v with a 144 and only be at 42c on wc(or is that 42f?) is truly a miracle. Let's see a sg ss. Make me a believer.

Ferry82
10-07-2005, 09:34 AM
I just saw a 3200mhz before it reboot @ 1,48v with Xp120+Papst@1600rpm.

Pt1t
10-07-2005, 09:48 AM
This might be the hardest thing I've read lately to believe. I'm not saying I don't believe in miracles, because I do, but to be at 1.8v with a 144 and only be at 42c on wc(or is that 42f?) is truly a miracle. Let's see a sg ss. Make me a believer.

42°c :D , with the 3200+ got 44° @ 1.65 with the same motherboard.

dogsx2
10-07-2005, 09:56 AM
42°c :D , with the 3200+ got 44° @ 1.65 with the same motherboard.

Please show ss of sg and 32m pi of 144. On a 3200 I'm sure you got 44c in wc.

sponge bob
10-07-2005, 10:53 AM
those 144 looks bad, so big voltage compared with 146 ?!

ffs i ordered 144 :mad:

Zeus
10-07-2005, 11:06 AM
I just saw a 3200mhz before it reboot @ 1,48v with Xp120+Papst@1600rpm.

That's just sick mate. :D
Tested some more tonight.
Results:

Over an hour Prime stable (stopped the test myself) at 3000Mhz 1.45V
OCCT test stable at 3050 1.55V
SuperPi 32M@3100MHz 23min 22sec :slobber:
SuperPi1M @3140MHz 26.235 sec
CPUmark 99- 414 (3140MHz)
Sandra bandwidth 8426mb/s (316x10)
Hexus PiFast@ 3140MHz 37.95sec

Still, it bluescreens running SuperPi 1M at 3150.

Impressive low voltage CPU i'd say.

187(V)URD@
10-07-2005, 11:08 AM
those 144 looks bad, so big voltage compared with 146 ?!

ffs i ordered 144 :mad:

You need to wait a bit, the last stepping didn't 'look' good because only one person tried that stepping.

Maybe finnaly try to oc the vpaw with relaxed async a preamble and give some screenshots of superpi,cpu-z and a64tweaker.

Till now every opteron did a good job. I am sure tomorrow will follow more screenshots because 50 people received 536VPAW today.

Techmasta
10-07-2005, 11:25 AM
Any ETA when these will be available for purchase?

Zeus
10-07-2005, 11:28 AM
Any ETA when these will be available for purchase?

Do you think all these Opterons were donated by AMD??

TooRUde
10-07-2005, 11:44 AM
im at 3ghz right now with a 166 wondering if during 32m run my temps should be hitting 48c i usually dont like anything to run over 45c full load... I see alot of people idling around 36 is 48c too hot for full load?

Hugo van Dijk
10-07-2005, 11:47 AM
I am sure tomorrow will follow more screenshots because 50 people received 536VPAW today.

:confused: Are they all gone again :eek:

Vapor
10-07-2005, 11:50 AM
I also have a feeling we'll see a bunch of these, Murda: :(

The CABGE 0536VPAWs are 3700+/4000+ sourced cores rather than FX-57 sourced cores like mine (CABNE 0530APMW).

187(V)URD@
10-07-2005, 11:51 AM
:confused: Are they all gone again :eek:

yes,check the buy and sell forum.

gundamit
10-07-2005, 12:01 PM
http://tinypic.com/eb4i0i.jpg

Anyone care to make a prediction? Maybe drcrawn?

Vapor
10-07-2005, 12:02 PM
Never seen a CABYE....but it's wicked early....what do the corners look like?

drcrawn does have a CABYE 254 @ 3.1GHz.....I bet these are good ;)

WesM63
10-07-2005, 12:04 PM
I'm still waiting on mine, i'm sure to get the "new" core. Supposed to be here monday or tuesday unless they change the ETA on me yet again.

gundamit
10-07-2005, 12:05 PM
Never seen a CABYE....but it's wicked early....what do the corners look like?

drcrawn does have a CABYE 254 @ 3.1GHz.....I bet these are good ;) I hope so.

http://tinypic.com/eb4kf8.jpg

SET
10-07-2005, 12:12 PM
I hope so.

http://tinypic.com/eb4kf8.jpg

Very good luck with this chip.

I wait for its results soon

dogsx2
10-07-2005, 12:15 PM
I hope so.

http://tinypic.com/eb4kf8.jpg

Looking good. You have might as well get the whole set. :D

gundamit
10-07-2005, 12:20 PM
Looking good. You have might as well get the whole set. :D Lol. I had to draw the line at the 148. I'm trying to maintain my cheap bastard reputation. Huge premium for me to get the 11 multi. :)

Zeus
10-07-2005, 12:53 PM
Gundamit, are you collecting Opteron CPU's? :D

You have 144, 146 and 148 now?

Vapor
10-07-2005, 12:54 PM
Dude, you gotta get a 165 :D

dogsx2
10-07-2005, 12:57 PM
He must have a connection with AMD, or own stock or something. :D

Micketh
10-07-2005, 12:58 PM
omg, my 144 still aint coime thru bloody postal service are crap, all i want them to do is give me my nice pretty new opty so i can toast it in a day but no!! ive got to go pick it up from the depot at 6:30am!! tomrrow... the things you have to do.

jsriolo
10-07-2005, 01:00 PM
I have been seriously considering getting a 170. I think I might just start out cheap with a 146 though.

el rolio
10-07-2005, 01:07 PM
anyone wanna get rid of one? hahah

gundamit
10-07-2005, 01:24 PM
Gundamit, are you collecting Opteron CPU's? :D

You have 144, 146 and 148 now? Just an impuse buy when i saw Charlie's EWiz thread. I was a little irritated by their non-live inventory that only updates at regular intervals throughout the day. (And as long as they show one in stock you can place hundreds in your cart.) I got an e-mail telling me it was out of stock but they were expecting another shipment on Thursday. They shipped regular UPS on Thursday on it arrived this morning. I live close to EWiz.

I was expecting a "bad one" since I figured all the CABNE from week 30 wouldn't be included in their restock. I didn't expect to get an older week and a stepping that has only been seen in a drcrawn thread featuring a 940 socket CPU. Strange.

I just slapped it in the same water cooled test rig I used for the last two Opterons. I'm using some Twinmos CH-UTT I had laying around. Please don't start hammering on me about the slow SuperPi time! I'm running the memory slow and loose right now because i'm just want to play with the CPU. I'll try to tweak it a little after I get a feeling of where the CPU will top out in the test rig. Maybe I'll start reading some SuperPi tip/tricks/tweaks guides when I find some time.

My gut tells me this stepping/week won't do as well as the first two CPUs I got. The slightly higher volts to get to 3ghz would seem to confirm that, but i think it'll still do better than the average San Diego.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/983/273x1134div7wk.png

Can't do more testing until tommorow. Stay tuned.

NISCO PT
10-07-2005, 01:41 PM
tanks to vapor and dino22 :toast:
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4462/validao350414mhz1ej.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9424/3504mhz4ld.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4618/3451mhz6lc.jpg

Vapor
10-07-2005, 01:56 PM
Some mighty-fine work there Nisco!! Let's see some 3D benches now ;)

Ferry82
10-07-2005, 03:18 PM
I love this chip i think i can get 3250-3300 when i do my best.

This is with XP120 and Papstfan

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=42271

dogsx2
10-07-2005, 03:21 PM
I love this chip i think i can get 3250-3300 when i do my best.

This is with XP120 and Papstfan

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=42271

Nice ss, how high can it bench 32m?

Vapor
10-07-2005, 03:23 PM
Or even 1M?

dinos22
10-07-2005, 03:25 PM
tanks to vapor and dino22 :toast: :toast:

dogsx2
10-07-2005, 03:25 PM
Or even 1M?

I'd even settle for 64k like the one guy had.

dinos22
10-07-2005, 03:34 PM
I'd even settle for 64k like the one guy had.
what about 32K time :lol: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75753

Ferry82
10-07-2005, 03:45 PM
Nice ss, how high can it bench 32m?

Im still playing with it i made a 32m@ 3050mhz
Think i can do 3100mhz 1m

But i think i have a heat problem.
I'm at 37idle and 53load. :slapass: @1,48v

Will buy watercooling when i am back from my vacation :fact:

Vapor
10-07-2005, 05:07 PM
Alright, I've resumed benching my Opteron....couple of quick observations/questions.

1) 2.5-3-3 does not work particularly well on my Opteron (like stability cuts out 10-15MHz lower--A HUGE drop), but 2.5-4-3 will scale like it did on my 4400+. At which speeds a divider with my CH-UTT is better, so my TCCD is out of the mix for my testing.
2) My temps are a good 10C cooler under load this time (IDK why, I had PERFECT contact last time) but my OC isn't any better--I'll try more volts (I'm only at 1.5V right now). 3175MHz is still my max for now.
3) I have Ricky tweak enabled (and did last time) because I only simply swapped out my 4400+....is there a way to disable it without a whole new install? I have a feeling temps are being negatively effected by it.
4) Is there any setting/configuration that you guys want me to specifically try?

Techmasta
10-07-2005, 05:43 PM
Do you think all these Opterons were donated by AMD??

I meant retail.

Rufus7
10-07-2005, 06:17 PM
Thats my little 146 CABNE 0530APMW Batch 072
2800Mhz at 1,264Vcore and Aircooled by an Thermalright XP 90 92er Papst Fan.
Just started to test the baby.Here is an little Screenie Primestable 24.12 Prime Small.Prime still runs since 1H 4mins.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6223/2800mhz1264vcprimesmall9ei.th.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2800mhz1264vcprimesmall9ei.jpg)

fullup3
10-07-2005, 07:00 PM
Wow! Amazing clocks at that voltage. These have to be fx-57's only with locked dividers. I can't wait for mine to get here. Just found out it's the same stepping as yours Rufus7.

Rufus7
10-07-2005, 07:46 PM
Now its coming better.
Next Update is 2830Mhz 1,264Vc Prime Custom.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7505/2830mhz1264vcprimecustomfftsip.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2830mhz1264vcprimecustomfftsip.jpg)

NISCO PT
10-07-2005, 08:29 PM
some amazing results again :banana: :woot:
32m superpi 3200mhz 1,4v :eek:
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9199/32mpi320014v2lv.jpg

32m superpi 3400mhz :clap:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3359/32mpia34003ih.jpg

renderbench 3m3s 3428mhz :eek:
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8836/render3m3s3428mhz0bl.jpg

1m superpi with patch sse3 at 23s at 3413mhz
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1043/23spia3413mhzsse3patch9vd.jpg
run also 3dmark 2001 at 3400 but my gpu isnt big thing (x800gt)

i think this chip is a diamond :slobber:

Vapor
10-07-2005, 08:39 PM
That's awesome man!! Keep it up....you've got one great chip and some great cooling to go with it :D

gundamit
10-07-2005, 09:34 PM
i think this chip is a diamond :slobber: I think you're right. Awesome 32M run at 3.4ghz!

Looks like the 148 I got won't get to 3.1ghz 32M stable on water. Ceiling seems to be about the same as my 144. I'm doing a little burn in right now with Prime (in "large ftt" setting since someone mentioned it was more stressful) at 2.8ghz and 1.3v. Hopefully it'll still be running in the morning. Maybe the burn-in will give it a little more headroom.

socrilles
10-07-2005, 10:26 PM
CABYE, has been seen once before in a opty 254 ($850 chip - default 2.8 ghz) and capped at about 3.1 ghz on water

dinos22
10-07-2005, 10:33 PM
are you guys flashing bioses with the Opteron installed or are you installing a Venice/San Diego to update the bios..... :)

Vapor
10-07-2005, 10:33 PM
Neither...I flashed awhile ago to 704-2BTA with my Toledo and left it....

socrilles, that was on a non-OCing board.....but at least we know it can do 3.1GHz on water!

dinos22
10-07-2005, 10:37 PM
Neither...I flashed awhile ago to 704-2BTA with my Toledo and left it....you reckon it would be wise to flash with Optys

gundamit
10-07-2005, 10:38 PM
are you guys flashing bioses with the Opteron installed or are you installing a Venice/San Diego to update the bios..... :) Would it really matter? Has anyone had a problem with flashing the bios with an Opteron?

Vapor
10-07-2005, 10:42 PM
I don't see the difference frankly, I'd flash with a P4 in there if it fit and I needed/wanted to update my BIOS.

Rufus7
10-07-2005, 11:18 PM
No Why flashing im using teh 510-1Fix with an 146 0530APMW.
And it works super with my TCCDs.
My new Results in Air. 3000Mhz at 1,36Vcore
Screenie ist here.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4772/30000mhz1360vcoreprimecustomff.th.jpg (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=30000mhz1360vcoreprimecustomff.jpg)

Vapor
10-07-2005, 11:22 PM
Those are some wicked high temps considering the voltage!! Also, how long is it stable? That could be like 5 seconds in :stick:

Rufus7
10-07-2005, 11:25 PM
I have Aircooling man. And it was 2 Minutes before stopping.Needs a little bit more Vcore. Like1,376vc.

Vapor
10-07-2005, 11:30 PM
It's still hot considering the voltage....considered taking off the IHS? I bet it could make your chip even more impressive :slobber:

Rufus7
10-07-2005, 11:33 PM
No IHS is still on the CPU! I will take him under Water then the Temperatures will fall to the Ground or only cold air will be enough.Impressive is that I can make 2900Mhz at 1,29Vcore.Prime Custom.

igor0203
10-08-2005, 01:16 AM
Is contact between cooler and chip good? Because temps are very high for so low voltage even with air cooling

Ferry82
10-08-2005, 02:15 AM
These 0530 are just verry hot chips.

mine have hot temps too.

Sephir0th
10-08-2005, 02:16 AM
mine arent much better, full load 1.36v 2.8ghz i get 52C load

Zeus
10-08-2005, 03:44 AM
Something strange is going on.

As long as my LAN connection is disabled i can run Prime95/OCCT without end at 3GHz 1.45V no problem.

But as soon as i enable LAN connection Prime or OCCT will fail within minutes.

WTF? :confused:

Temps are ok < 47C load.

GUFY
10-08-2005, 03:56 AM
Do you try with diffrent drivers?

HermS
10-08-2005, 04:35 AM
Pushed my 148 just a little bit more:-

3456MHz @ 1.65v SPi 32m Stable (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38235&stc=1)
CPUZ verification (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=42366)

I'm a bit skeptical as to whether I'll hit 3.5GHz 32m Stable, but it won't be for lack of trying.

Great results there NISCO :toast:

dogsx2
10-08-2005, 05:08 AM
Pushed my 148 just a little bit more:-

3456MHz @ 1.65v SPi 32m Stable (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38235&stc=1)
CPUZ verification (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=42366)

I'm a bit skeptical as to whether I'll hit 3.5GHz 32m Stable, but it won't be for lack of trying.

Great results there NISCO :toast:

You got a great chip there HermS. This should put to rest the naysayers that a fx57 is so much better. These numbers are what the average fx57 gets on single phase, I was waiting for some vapor numbers, thanks.

I'll bet you were on a real high last night. :woot:

dinos22
10-08-2005, 05:13 AM
21m SPI....f.uck me dead :toast:

HermS
10-08-2005, 05:36 AM
You got a great chip there HermS. This should put to rest the naysayers that a fx57 is so much better. These numbers are what the average fx57 gets on single phase, I was waiting for some vapor numbers, thanks.

I'll bet you were on a real high last night. :woot:

Thanks Dogsx2, :toast:

Since my really really bad FX-55 clawhammer there was no way in hell I was gonna spend silly money on a chip again, that dog of a chip nearly put me off oc'ing for life.

When I saw that thread by PRTeamJapan I knew I'd found my next cpu. To get results like this from a relatively cheap chip has really put the spring back in my step! It's great to see that pretty much everyone with these Optys is really happy with them, so often in the past we get all the hype about a new stepping/model and then results for the masses like us don't quite live up to expectations.

And yeah last night my heart was thumpin' like mad..... It still is! :woot:

computersmsa
10-08-2005, 05:48 AM
Link for the 50 first Opteron 144 CABGE 0536 VPAW stable overclocking : http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/OSABN/144CABGE0536VPAW_50.html

dogsx2
10-08-2005, 05:51 AM
This is like the old days in oc'ing, not about how much money you could spend, but about taking a low end cpu and getting something for free.

Thanks AMD, you may not have knowing done it but you put some excitement in single core oc'ing. :woot:

dogsx2
10-08-2005, 05:58 AM
I really feel bad for you. I know you were trying to help us out by getting some 144 & 146 oertons and they send you a night and day difference batch. :( You are an honest man posting the results before you sell them all, and that says alot about you.

gundamit
10-08-2005, 06:44 AM
I'm doing a little burn in right now with Prime (in "large ftt" setting since someone mentioned it was more stressful) at 2.8ghz and 1.3v. Hopefully it'll still be running in the morning. Maybe the burn-in will give it a little more headroom. Looks like it ran okay. :) I can see this CPU in a quiet/cool rig.

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9181/28059ok.png

dogsx2
10-08-2005, 07:06 AM
[QUOTE=gundamit]Looks like it ran okay. :) I can see this CPU in a quiet/cool rig.

Put that bugger on phase now that you gave it the gentle, low volt treatment.

computersmsa
10-08-2005, 07:11 AM
I really feel bad for you. I know you were trying to help us out by getting some 144 & 146 oertons and they send you a night and day difference batch. :( You are an honest man posting the results before you sell them all, and that says alot about you.

Hi,

Thanks you :toast:
I'm honnest that's right, but the 50 first are already pay and ship :)
It's not nice for man who want 3 - 3.1 GHz in WC :( but for the price ... it's good or very good :)

However, I hope receive better stepping in the next delivery (Week of 17 October).

:toast:

gundamit
10-08-2005, 07:17 AM
Put that bugger on phase now that you gave it the gentle, low volt treatment. Scheduled for tommorow if I don't hit any snags. :D

sponge bob
10-08-2005, 08:01 AM
Link for the 50 first Opteron 144 CABGE 0536 VPAW stable overclocking : http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/OSABN/144CABGE0536VPAW_50.html
omfg that :banana::banana::banana::banana:? ther is no hope to get 3 ghz with iced water? i hoped for 3 ghz 24/7 :(

AgentVX
10-08-2005, 08:05 AM
Link for the 50 first Opteron 144 CABGE 0536 VPAW stable overclocking : http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/OSABN/144CABGE0536VPAW_50.html

Hmmmm...what's the voltage scaling like? Are you and the others able to get, say 2.7GHz stable at much lower voltages?

dogsx2
10-08-2005, 08:22 AM
Hmmmm...what's the voltage scaling like? Are you and the others able to get, say 2.7GHz stable at much lower voltages?

Start at the beginning of the thread and read. By your ?? one can tell you haven't done your reading.

fullup3
10-08-2005, 08:33 AM
Just got mine In from the mailman a few minues ago. Vandi special CABNE 0530APMW :D just like the other 146's from him.
Popped it in at 2800 @ 1.4v and priming away.
Will post some screens when I get anywhere with it. :banana: :banana:

NISCO PT
10-08-2005, 08:39 AM
Just got mine In from the mailman a few minues ago. Vandi special CABNE 0530APMW :D just like the other 146's from him.
Popped it in at 2800 @ 1.4v and priming away.
Will post some screens when I get anywhere with it. :banana: :banana:
lucky guy you are :banana:
post the results when you have please
btw batch nº of the opteron?

gundamit
10-08-2005, 08:48 AM
Dropped the volts a bit. Not sure which Prime torture test is best for burn-in, so I guess I'll just run all three. Lol. :p:

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/551/multipleprimes1ge.png

dnottis
10-08-2005, 08:49 AM
Something strange is going on.

As long as my LAN connection is disabled i can run Prime95/OCCT without end at 3GHz 1.45V no problem.

But as soon as i enable LAN connection Prime or OCCT will fail within minutes.

WTF? :confused:

Temps are ok < 47C load.


Have u tried a PCI nic?

derektm
10-08-2005, 08:54 AM
Got my 146 CABNE 0530APMW. Im running Value Ram right now, stock heatsink, stock volts, 100 divider, and It booted first try @ 2.9ghz @ 1.39volts and primes perfect :banana:

AgentVX
10-08-2005, 08:55 AM
Start at the beginning of the thread and read. By your ?? one can tell you haven't done your reading.

FYI, I've been following the development of these S939 Opterons since OC Detective posted about them at ocforums.com. I'm directing my question at computersmsa because, correct me if I'm wrong, his entire batch is a different stepping from the rest of you guys :fact: (or most of you guys anyway)
Don't you find it odd that most of the results here are 2.9-3.1GHz on 1.4-1.55V and those in his link are 2.8-2.9 at much higher voltages? :rolleyes:

ozzimark
10-08-2005, 08:57 AM
Have u tried a PCI nic?
i was about to ask that

but on a related note, my dfi's onboard lan died.. both of them. confused, i reinstalled windows. still no luck. tried a pci nic.. still wouldn't connect to anything. popped in an msi k8n neo, works just fine. any ideas? :D

angentVX, he was simply unlucky in getting a newer batch with CABGE cores. there is nothing more to the matter. he is a good guy, don't out your suspiscions on him ;)

computersmsa
10-08-2005, 09:00 AM
AgentVX ->


Opteron 144 CABGE 0536 VPAW
DFI nF4 Ultra-D 704-2BTA
Puit Cooling -> Full = ~ 35°C
Max Stable -> 2729 MHz @ 1.49V
http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/CABGE_0536_VPAW_MS@1.49V.png


Opteron 144 CABGE 0536 VPAW
DFI nF4 Ultra-D 704-2BTA
Puit Cooling -> Full = ~ 36°C
Max Stable -> 2808 MHz @ 1.57V
http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/CABGE_0536_VPAW_MS@1.57V.png


Opteron 144 CABGE 0536 VPAW
DFI nF4 Ultra-D 704-2BTA
Puit Cooling -> Full = ~ 38°C
Max Stable -> 2862 MHz @ 1.65V
http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/CABGE_0536_VPAW_MS@1.65V.png

For me ...I have ship them Thursday, We must wait for more result :)

Edit : ozzimark http://www.bel-hardware.be/forum/img/smilies/jap.gif

AgentVX
10-08-2005, 09:06 AM
angentVX, he was simply unlucky in getting a newer batch with CABGE cores. there is nothing more to the matter. he is a good guy, don't out your suspiscions on him ;)

I've got nothing against him! Geez, stop misaligning me :p:
I'm just curious if it's a scenario where they're giving a lot more volts for the last few MHz. Thanks very much for the info, computersmsa.

Zeus
10-08-2005, 09:06 AM
Have u tried a PCI nic?

No i haven't, might try that this week, thanks.

foofreaknfighte
10-08-2005, 09:55 AM
Ordered my 148 from eWiz yesterday and it shipped same day! :banana:

Need to get a mobo for it though, and maybe some ram....intel switch. Hope its a good stepping...

Sinnerman49
10-08-2005, 10:21 AM
I'm still waiting (Impatiently I might add) for my Vandi'Special to arrive in the mail. Today might be my lucky day!

NISCO PT
10-08-2005, 11:13 AM
with x800gt week for great marks resoults :(
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4868/3dmark2001340024323marks2vh.jpg
http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/3412/3dmark200534004641marks1xj.jpg
THE BEST I CAN DO UNTIL NOW :toast: :banana: :clap: suicide shot of course :( :eek:
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2761/validaoa368578mhz7fh.jpg

HermS
10-08-2005, 11:45 AM
Lord have mercy! Impressive stuff :toast:

What bios are you using NISCO? My 9:10 divider is not working right, I wonder if another bios would help.

NISCO PT
10-08-2005, 11:47 AM
my bios is 623-3

HermS
10-08-2005, 11:56 AM
Thanks I'll give it a try. :)

Rufus7
10-08-2005, 11:57 AM
Nice Overclocks Nisco PT.I am still waiting for zhe cool night to start testing my 146 CABNE0530APMW.Just to reach a little bit more than 3+Gig with Aircooling at Stockcore or little bit more.

GoThr3k
10-08-2005, 12:16 PM
what are the good weeks for opterons 146???

TheMeatFrog
10-08-2005, 12:17 PM
Opteron 146 CABNE 0530APMW Air Cooled by XP90 with very high temps! :p:

3GHz 1M
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8664/3ghz1m18vt.th.png (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3ghz1m18vt.png)

3GHz 32M
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8256/3ghz32m14bl.th.png (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3ghz32m14bl.png)

GoThr3k
10-08-2005, 12:29 PM
week 30 seems good

Rufus7
10-08-2005, 12:34 PM
Opteron 146 CABNE 0530APMW Air Cooled by XP90 with very high temps! :p:

3GHz 1M
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8664/3ghz1m18vt.th.png (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3ghz1m18vt.png)

3GHz 32M
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8256/3ghz32m14bl.th.png (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3ghz32m14bl.png)

Nice Clocks Meatfrog what kind of cooling?
Heres mine at Aircooling. Whats your Batch? Mine is G50 072

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4772/30000mhz1360vcoreprimecustomff.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=30000mhz1360vcoreprimecustomff.jpg)

GoThr3k
10-08-2005, 12:35 PM
his cooling is xp-90 c = aircooling

Rufus7
10-08-2005, 12:41 PM
Oh the better One. The Copper XP. Had never thought that i would need a better cooler. But i will need. Thx Gothr3k.

TheMeatFrog
10-08-2005, 12:52 PM
My cooling is just the regular XP90, and this heatsink has seen it's better days. :p: I have a Zalman CNPS9500 on the way along with some G.Skill FF to go along with my new chip. :) I'm be so limited by temps right now it's not even funny :mad: so the IHS will probably be coming off shortly after I get my new heatsink. :D


Nice Clocks Meatfrog what kind of cooling?
Heres mine at Aircooling. Whats your Batch? Mine is G50 072

Batch # is 0053
Your clocks aren't too bad either ;)

dogsx2
10-08-2005, 01:01 PM
My cooling is just the regular XP90, and this heatsink has seen it's better days. :p: I have a Zalman CNPS9500 on the way along with some G.Skill FF to go along with my new chip. :) I'm be so limited by temps right now it's not even funny :mad: so the IHS will probably be coming off shortly after I get my new heatsink. :D
Batch # is 0053
;)

What is your load temp? Is that your idle temp in ss?

Rufus7
10-08-2005, 01:06 PM
My cooling is just the regular XP90, and this heatsink has seen it's better days. :p: I have a Zalman CNPS9500 on the way along with some G.Skill FF to go along with my new chip. :) I'm be so limited by temps right now it's not even funny :mad: so the IHS will probably be coming off shortly after I get my new heatsink. :D


Batch # is 0053
Your clocks aren't too bad either ;)

Meatfrog the IHS off will not bring so much.At HWLXX in the Thread its not always getting better from the Temps. Its an CABNE an FX Stepping they are a little bit hotter then other Steppings. But they are stable even at Aircooling. Need a good Watercooling to get stable over 3xxxMhz at Stockcore may be more or less the 1,36Vc.But 10K will bring me much more Mhz stable.Sorry for my English but i´m from germany.

TheMeatFrog
10-08-2005, 01:07 PM
What is your load temp? Is that your idle temp in ss?
Yes that was my idle temp in the screen shot :stick: the highest temp I saw under load was 55 a few times but it was mostly 52-53 :slap:

Rufus7
10-08-2005, 01:10 PM
My highest were around 47°C under Load Prime Custom at 3Gig. And Idle were 36°C at 3 Gig.You can see it in my Screenie. Your Batch is lower then mine Meatfrog. Grats.Now i have 2,8Gig by 1,232Vc Prime is working for 3Hours by 41°C Load temp.

TheMeatFrog
10-08-2005, 01:12 PM
Is your IHS on or off?

Rufus7
10-08-2005, 01:13 PM
My IHS is allways ON!!!
Never taken IHS OFF at any CPU.

That was last night at 18°C Roomtemperature.
Tonight its getting little bit colder trying for more.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6293/3000mhz1360vcoreprimecustomfft.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3000mhz1360vcoreprimecustomfft.jpg)

Welz
10-08-2005, 01:14 PM
Now that this thing is stickied, maybee we should change it from the "unofficial" to the "official" opteron overclocking thread...

TheMeatFrog
10-08-2005, 01:18 PM
My IHS is allways ON!!!
Never taken IHS OFF at any CPU.

That was last night at 18°C Roomtemperature.
Tonight its getting little bit colder trying for more.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6293/3000mhz1360vcoreprimecustomfft.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3000mhz1360vcoreprimecustomfft.jpg)
18C room temp...wow!

My room temp... :p:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6999/img12764bv.th.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img12764bv.jpg)

dogsx2
10-08-2005, 01:32 PM
I think Rufus7 has the same room temp that TeamJapan had in their thread in the oc section.

Meatfrog, there is a way to lower your load temps, just lower the room temp to 18c. :D

Rufus7
10-08-2005, 01:43 PM
I will open my windows tonight to get 15°C Roomtemperature or lower and change the Blowers with more Speed to get lower Temps. With Watercooling would be easier for me to get higher clocks. But in the near future i will try to get a Watercooling unit to get more Clocks.