The Official Opteron 939 Overclocking Thread

[afireinside]

LOL I just cut off some of that green crap on the thing... Probably dead with my luck. Every IHS gets harder and harder to take off...

[afireinside]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/zero-IGN/P1010062.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/zero-IGN/p1010064.jpg

WOOT!

[Vapor]

CompUSA sells AS5 under the mad dog label. Just look at the tube and it says AS5. ;)I'll pick some up tonight, thanks.

[187(V)URD@]

Maybe a stupid question but is the performance between a venice 2.7ghz and operton 2.7ghz noticable on real life benchmarks?
How does the memorycontroller does his job?

[gundamit]

I see this website (http://www.colamco.com/store/product/detail.aspx?product=497461) already adverstising the 150 opty..Qty. Available: 0

[Sinnerman49]

How much benefit is there to removing the IHS? Taking a blade to something so hard to get doesn't seem...I dunno...good.

After it's off, what should be use to brace the heatsink? I know XP's have those four circle pads, one in each corner.

[afireinside]

You gain a few C... I always take IHS off.

3ghz 8m stable 1.5v right now. Ram works just as well as on my 3700+ diego :) So far at least. Only tested 265mhz. Haven't pushed 3.8v yet for some suicide 1m benching on the ram. Still on watercooling. About to try 32m

[Le_Petit_Lapin]

Anyone know when these hardcore little overclocking Optys come out in the UK?

To say "I want one" is a complete understatement... :slobber:

[mongoled]

You gain a few C... I always take IHS off.

3ghz 8m stable 1.5v right now. Ram works just as well as on my 3700+ diego :) So far at least. Only tested 265mhz. Haven't pushed 3.8v yet for some suicide 1m benching on the ram. Still on watercooling. About to try 32m
Nice going,

Good to see someone has decided to take off the IHS :) will be looking forward to your results

:)


Anyone know when these hardcore little overclocking Optys come out in the UK?

To say "I want one" is a complete understatement... :slobber:
U can already get these over at cpucity.co.uk, go and take a look, he should have Opty 144 in by Monday and Opty 146 at a later date.

[cyclepath]

Anyone know when these hardcore little overclocking Optys come out in the UK?

To say "I want one" is a complete understatement... :slobber:

check out cpucity, only place seen so far for preorders :)

[Le_Petit_Lapin]

In must have been blind when I checked there earlier. Checked again and there it is...the price damn decent too.

Dunno whether to order or not to order a 144, or wait for the 146's or 150's now...

Decisions decisions..... ;)

[Hugo van Dijk]

:slobber: :slobber:

I realy need to get one of these opties when they come out here, if i had the money I would buy 2 of these great chips, but i also need to save some money for a new phase system and I still have to build a liquid-cooling system for my sempie, and then i also need a new motherboard and hd,s :( , Looks like i have to overwork alot the coming few weeks :D

Can,t wait to get one of these in my hands :banana:

[afireinside]

Ok:

Voltage doesn't help AT ALL. at 1.55v bios I'm 32m stable at 3ghz. Even up to 1.85v I can't boot over 3060mhz. Weird...

[Absolute_0]

These opties scale terribly with volts.

[afireinside]

3050mhz 5m2s 8m :D

Got a liter of ice in res waiting for temps to pull down...

[Jupiler]

afi :

what temps are you getting without IHS?

[dinos22]

3050mhz 5m2s 8m :D

Got a liter of ice in res waiting for temps to pull down...
you also need to tell us what speeds you were getting before IHS removal

[dinos22]

he removed the IHS right away no pre testing.

Mine is still on and I might remove it tommorow when my new air cooler gets here then we can compare.
damn so no comparison there......we know about your results.....i would also try the max OCCT speed with IHS and then without because heat is a major issue with those and IHS off should give at least 100MHz

[afireinside]

Would give me about 500... I can't get contact with an IHS to save my life. Thats why it came off right away.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1063465#post1063465
My results ^^

[asianguy80]

So with all these results coming in, i haven't had time to tweak with mine would a Sandy 3700 Scale better than these Opty's 144/146's?

[Vince2005]

Anyone know when they will sells these at Newegg?

[Vapor]

First tests....couldn't get an inch over 2.68GHz, regardless of voltage, RAM, LDT, etc.

I was wicked bummed to say the least....almost in tears (well, not quite, LOL). Then I got the crazy idea to run the 9x multi, which cleared 2.72GHz. At which point my RAM was a major limitation at 2.5-3-3-0. So I went into BIOS, dropped the multi to 9x, set the divider to 5/6, set timings to 2.5-4-4-7, set voltage back to 1.41V and ran with it.

Well, anyway, here's a quick glimpse of what's to come ;) .....this wasn't even the max, I simply haven't tried higher. :woot:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4305/2850m141v3on.png

[dinos22]

:banana: another good one........what BIOS are you on Vapor?

[Vapor]

Welp, someone down the hall was playing Busta Rhymes and I kept hearing "Gimme Some Mo'" over and over, so I obeyed. Still haven't hit the max--this is just the highest I've tried :D

http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/2820/2960m141v4ww.png

EDIT: I'm on the 704-2BTA.

[Vincentvega18]

:slobber: almost makes it better you thought it was a poor clocker aswell, a suprise clocker :D

[afireinside]

Working on 3200mhz 8m stable ATM, pics soon!!

[jahjahbinks]

What did you guys order this from? Just curious.

[Vapor]

Mine's on so-so water....got it up to 2980 1.41V 1M stable.
http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/6229/2980m141v4pu.png

It would crash at 3000 1.41V 1M in the 14 iteration....never tried anything between 2980 and 3000.

Now I have another problem (and maybe why I couldn't get 3000 stable), my board won't go over 332 with any CPU or chipset voltage :rolleyes:

This is a fun OC though, I love a challenge. I think I might retry the 10x multi now.

[Vapor]

5/6 divider at 331MHz = 276 @ 2.5-4-4-8, no priority adjustment.

Not tweaking for time yet (although the mem controller doesn't seem to be very good on this Opteron :stick: ), I will though ;)

[Vapor]

I've got my own Ballistix sitting on my desk....some sick UTT too :D

I really think there is something to the statement that these Opterons hate TCCD.

[Vapor]

Alright, I think temps are killing me at this point--48C load.

309.2x10, mem@ 220/2.5-4-4-8 :rolleyes:

I'll be swapping in my Ballistix now and seeing what I can get. BTW, the 10x multi seems fine now, which is weird.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2908/3091m150v2di.png

[ozzimark]

I really think there is something to the statement that these Opterons hate TCCD.
nah, my problem is that i just see NO benfit of running anything higher than 2.5-3-3.
my 1gb crucial value stick is topping out at 225mhz with 3-3-3.. and 2.5-3-3
i played with some geil ddr500, rated for 2.5-3-3. pretty sure it's hynix. got to 275mhz at 2.5-3-3. higher timings didn't get a single mhz
maybe play with some ballistix? 2.5-2-2 = 257mhz, 2.5-3-3 = 260mhz, 3-3-3 or 3-4-4 = 260mhz

at this point, i'm really scratching my head.

[Vapor]

I can OC my CPU higher when my TCCD is at 2.5-4-4-8 than I can when it's at 2.5-3-3-0.

Anyway, I was sick of the TCCD bullsh so I threw in my Ballistix @ 280 3-3-3-8 and got a much better time :D

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7838/ballistix3080m150v8eh.png

[gundamit]

at this point, i'm really scratching my head. You ain't the only one. After seeing RobberBarons's screenie I thought I should revisit the voltage. Sure enough I dropped .25v and no impact on OC. Even managed to beat my personal best on 32M with this run. Everyone getting this CPU needs to know rule #1. This is a low volt CPU. Start low!

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/5602/338x934div32mtighterlowv1459do.png

[xenolith]

Looks like the s939 opterons are finally starting to trickle into the states.

@ ewiz:
148 for $285 (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=OS148BNBOX)
150 for $389 (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=OS150BNBOX)
152 for $821 (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=OS152BNBOX) :eek:

They don't have any 144's or 146's yet. Vandi must be putting too much pressure on fab51 for these. :nono: :D

[ozzimark]

I can OC my CPU higher when my TCCD is at 2.5-4-4-8 than I can when it's at 2.5-3-3-0.
has to be my board then

gundamit, very nice. i'm almost tempted to do the same.. though i definitly get higher with 1.62v than i do with 1.55v

[Vapor]

Welp, I popped off the IHS, bumped up the voltage .02 and she's 5C cooler under load....:woot:

3100 1M:
http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/3562/3100m152vpopped4bd.png

[afireinside]

Nice chip Vapor :) Go for 3.2!

[Zebo]

Is UTT or Ballistix faster?

I noticed with Ballistix I can run 2.5-2-2 1T up to 250 Mhz but UTT can go cas 2 at this speed. But then I was reading an article at anandtech and wes thinks ballistix is fastest ram all things being equal.. But there not. Understand? prolly not.

Could someone try the afore mentioned settings please? I never did jump on UTT bandwagon because I was always happy with Ballistix's low volts (coolness) and speed it offered. But now, I need some new memory since I'm keeping my X2 with ballistix and need new ram with 144 setup. Get more or UTT? Thanks.:)

[Vapor]

Don't know what you're talking about Zebo....anyway, onto more news.

Haven't tried 3.2GHz yet AFI, but here's 3.15GHz :D

I think it has more too...it was only 45C loaded.

http://img335.imageshack.us/img335/4792/3150m157vpopped1tm.png

It's only marginally faster because I had to drop the RAM divider from 183 to 166 :(

I can pop in my Redline and probably get mid 26s though :D

[Dillusion]

Where are these 939 optys coming from, i cant find them anywhere!

[xenolith]

^^^ You need to read the thread a little bit. ;)

[Dillusion]

I looked, didnt find- Maybe i went too fast...

[Vapor]

Alright, first time I've ever run 8M on this processor was a success!

3140 @ 1.61V

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6826/8m3140m161vpopped6jv.png

Now it's time to throw in some Redline and shoot for 3.2GHz :woot:

[VulgarHandle]

vapo, i see you playin with upper voltages, what kind of cooling?

[dinos22]

vapo, i see you playin with upper voltages, what kind of cooling?
^^^^IHS off and Water^^^^

[ben805]

geewiz....these Opti are clocking very high and looking mighty good for such a low price tag :slobber: they're begging for phase change!!

Gundammit or anyone else who has one....can you guys please run atleast 30min ~1hr of Prime blend and see how high they can clock? please... :toast:

[afireinside]

vapo, i see you playin with upper voltages, what kind of cooling?

upper voltages? :lol: I've run 1.85V through mine already...

[Vapor]

I would be too man cept I ain't got nothing to keep this thing cool :(

Anyway, I don't think I'll get 3.2GHz without an ice bath or the AS5 settling in A LOT.

Here's 3.17GHz with my Redline:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9512/redline3171m161vpopped9km.png

[afireinside]

Whats your water set up like?

I think you need one of these:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/zero-IGN/P1010073.jpg

[VulgarHandle]

can't wait for a pic w/ that setup, and nice di smoke risin out of it :D

edit: with the opti that is

[Vapor]

TDX, 1/2in ID tubing, too much coolant, an okay heatercore with two crappy fans, res, MCW50, D4. Working on getting better fans and possibly a better rad.

And about that Mousepot....;)

[dinos22]

now we're talking :guitar:

[Zebo]

Vapo could you please test 2.5-2-2 1T with ballistix @ 250 and 2-2-2 1T with UTT at 250Mhz? I don't care about CPU mhz per se other than staying same in both test.. just want to see which memory I should go with which is faster and by how much\.

Saw some ballistix for $59 recenty for 512!

[Vapor]

My Ballistix can't do that....I don't know of any 1GB sticks that can, actually. I'd definitely hedge my bets on the 2-2-2 though ;)

[gundamit]

geewiz....these Opti are clocking very high and looking mighty good for such a low price tag :slobber: they're begging for phase change!!

Gundammit or anyone else who has one....can you guys please run atleast 30min ~1hr of Prime blend and see how high they can clock? please... :toast: I got the Prime that was linked in an earlier post and tried the "large" test, but I get instant failure at any speed. Seems bugged. I'll take another stab at it in the next few days.

[dinos22]

I got the Prime that was linked in an earlier post and tried the "large" test, but I get instant failure at any speed. Seems bugged. I'll take another stab at it in the next few days.
try OCCT

[jahjahbinks]

can you get 3Dmark05 running? or any 3d bench you can find.

[Vapor]

My final SPI tests:
8M: 3150MHz
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1237/redline8m3150m165vpopped2mw.png

1M: 3175MHz
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3498/redline3175m165vpopped3em.png

Expect a 32M within the next 2 hours. Maybe some 3D action too ;)

[mongoled]

Hey Vapor, nice results

:)

I see you voltage is slowly going up, heheheee, u r using cold water arnt you? It looks like these Opty can scale with volts as long as the temperature is brought down!. You are the first person ive seen pushing tht kind of voltage through a Opty (ok afireinside did but tht didnt count :D )

Lookin forward to more results

[ozzimark]

It looks like these Opty can scale with volts as long as the temperature is brought down!.
oh man, mine scales amazingly with temps. remember how lame it was oc'ing before?

20c idle ~30c load, put the heatercore up to some cold air. here's what i managed with 1.62-1.65v:
3310mhz screen with 3044mhz sPI 1m. there is no question that it's still lacking a bit though :p:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=40990

http://eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_50.png
(note single channel, that's why the score is so low. i'm kinda lacking two sticks of working ram that are the same size :stick: )

[dinos22]

screenie at 3310MHz and highest 1M at 3044MHz....you are definately crippled by high temps or something.....that gap is too wide

[Absolute_0]

screenie at 3310MHz and highest 1M at 3044MHz....you are definately crippled by high temps or something.....that gap is too wide

Exactly what i'm thinking, something is wrong, the gap is HUGE...

[ozzimark]

screenie at 3310MHz and highest 1M at 3044MHz....you are definately crippled by high temps or something.....that gap is too wide
i venture the mobo. read my post again and see what temps i am saying ;)

[dinos22]

i venture the mobo. read my post again and see what temps i am saying ;)i saw that but it makes no sense almost 300MHz gap dude...WTH

[mongoled]

Well looking like temps r making differences,

Going to have to sort out tht chiller :). Has anybody played arnd with some of the 'Advanced Chipset Features' in the bios. There are a few settings in their relevant to the CPU (using bigtoe's modded bios). Wish I had one to play with, i would play with ALL those settings to see if they effect max OC, hehehee

[Vapor]

Hey Vapor, nice results

:)

I see you voltage is slowly going up, heheheee, u r using cold water arnt you? It looks like these Opty can scale with volts as long as the temperature is brought down!. You are the first person ive seen pushing tht kind of voltage through a Opty (ok afireinside did but tht didnt count :D )

Lookin forward to more resultsThanks man...

No cold water here--it's actually QUITE warm at this point, LOL. In my experience, 52C is when Toledo, SD, and Venus start losing their OC so I just aim to keep it below that. Popping her cherry dropped a good 5C (you shoulda seen how bad contact was between the IHS and the TDX though, yuck) and from there it was all careful tweaking, I've been hammering this thing for a few hours now.

I might be the first to say this, but these seem to BURN IN fairly well--if a SPI fails late (last 4-5 iterations), everytime I run it it fails later and it eventually works. :D

As this isn't a chip I really need for 24/7, I'm fairly fearless with it--if there's a gain to be had from more juice, it'll get it.

Anyway, it just failed 32M at 3125 in the 15th iteration....it was on pace for a 24'30" or so. Not gonna run it again, it's kinda a waste of time, IMO :stick:

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7012/32mfail3125m165v2na.png

Time for 3D....I hope my 7800GTX is in a good mood. :woot:

[Vapor]

Well looking like temps r making differences,

Going to have to sort out tht chiller :). Has anybody played arnd with some of the 'Advanced Chipset Features' in the bios. There are a few settings in their relevant to the CPU (using bigtoe's modded bios). Wish I had one to play with, i would play with ALL those settings to see if they effect max OC, heheheeWhat settings do you speak of, exactly? I might give them a whirl.

[ozzimark]

i saw that but it makes no sense almost 300MHz gap dude...WTH
i have two guesses:
1. i suck at sPI'ing and rock at taking screens
2. i have a defective mobo that doesn't regulate cpu voltage right. the only reason i would suspect this is due to when i run prime95.. whenever it fails, it's ALWAYS immediately after changing FFT size.

[mongoled]

Looking very good,

Im trying to work out how im going to treat my CPU when it gets here, ive never started off with low voltage lovin, but recently I started doinb burn-ins with low volatge and found tht it helped :)

So maybe this will be the first CPU tht I start to coax more mhz by using low volts. Still many questions peeps want answering, slowly the answers will come to light, these things have stired up quite alot of hype :p:

Just a little piece of information from my friends Opty 146, he tried some prime95 stabilty tests, at the moment (as from last night) he's prime stable up to 3 hrs (small HTT's, please dont lecture abt which option to use, I know very well how prime95 works ;)) at 2.9ghz with 1.5volts.

Anything higher than 1.5v and the temperatures start going out of control, he is cooling with a xp120 and 120mm delta fan. These CPU's are defo candidates for cherry popping, hehhehehheee :D

The 52C u mention seems like a VERY reasonable ceiling to start working from, I hope other members can see if thy start losing stability with these chips at tht sort of temperature, ite would be a very interesting thing to confirm

[dinos22]

i have two guesses:
1. i suck at sPI'ing and rock at taking screens
2. i have a defective mobo that doesn't regulate cpu voltage right. the only reason i would suspect this is due to when i run prime95.. whenever it fails, it's ALWAYS immediately after changing FFT size.
welcome Expert board :D

[mongoled]

What settings do you speak of, exactly? I might give them a whirl.

Just going to reboot and will let u know

[ozzimark]

The 52C u mention seems like a VERY reasonable ceiling to start working from, I hope other members can see if thy start losing stability with these chips at tht sort of temperature, ite would be a very interesting thing to confirm
well if it helps you any, max stable speed for >10min of prime95 on stock cooling: 1.5v = 2710mhz, 55c. 1.55v = 2710mhz, 62c


welcome Expert board :D
i plan on it, with open arms. the typical dfi teething issues scare me though :p:

[ben805]

Well looking like temps r making differences,

Going to have to sort out tht chiller :). Has anybody played arnd with some of the 'Advanced Chipset Features' in the bios. There are a few settings in their relevant to the CPU (using bigtoe's modded bios). Wish I had one to play with, i would play with ALL those settings to see if they effect max OC, hehehee


Enable the 123 Errata option under the chipset features, it stabilized and help my X2 big time, its available on newer bioses. (623-3 and up)

[mongoled]

well if it helps you any, max stable speed for >10min of prime95 on stock cooling: 1.5v = 2710mhz, 55c. 1.55v = 2710mhz, 62c

Ouch thts a big increase in temps for an increase of 0.5v, when u going 'pop it'? :p:

Right the settings im interested in are the following:

CPU Spread Specturm
Errata 94 Enhancement
Errata 123 Enhancement
ACPI SRAT

The ACPI SRAT I would be careful with, I have no idea how this may effect your OS, as for the others play arnd with them and see if they make any sort of difference to OC

-EDIT-

nice find ben805,

u just beat my post, tweak away peeps :)

[ben805]

Looking very good,

Im trying to work out how im going to treat my CPU when it gets here, ive never started off with low voltage lovin, but recently I started doinb burn-ins with low volatge and found tht it helped :)

So maybe this will be the first CPU tht I start to coax more mhz by using low volts. Still many questions peeps want answering, slowly the answers will come to light, these things have stired up quite alot of hype :p:

Just a little piece of information from my friends Opty 146, he tried some prime95 stabilty tests, at the moment (as from last night) he's prime stable up to 3 hrs (small HTT's, please dont lecture abt which option to use, I know very well how prime95 works ;)) at 2.9ghz with 1.5volts.

Anything higher than 1.5v and the temperatures start going out of control, he is cooling with a xp120 and 120mm delta fan. These CPU's are defo candidates for cherry popping, hehhehehheee :D

The 52C u mention seems like a VERY reasonable ceiling to start working from, I hope other members can see if thy start losing stability with these chips at tht sort of temperature, ite would be a very interesting thing to confirm



If your friend can prime at 2.9Ghz on air with only 1.5v.....that's freaking amazing!! :slobber:

[mongoled]

If your friend can prime at 2.9Ghz on air with only 1.5v.....that's freaking amazing!! :slobber:
Heeehehee 'amazing' is relevant to wht u are used to, if I told you tht he has a Venice (yes I know its half the cache) tht primes at over 2.9Ghz on the same cooling then 2.9ghz wouldnt be so 'amazing' to him, LOL

But it is still very good!! :)

Something tht concerned me though is tht even though the CPU primed upto 3hrs, he didnt stop it but it rebooted his CPU! I find this very strange behavoir, usually prime should just fail, a reboot tell me tht he may have spikes on his CPU voltage. A rock stable CPU voltage line is a must for pushing these babies

[ozzimark]

Ouch thts a big increase in temps for an increase of 0.5v, when u going 'pop it'? :p:
perhaps a picture of my half-assed attempt to lap the heatsink, then giving up will show you why the temp increase is so massive:

http://eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_39.jpg

i just gave up. way too rounded. i'll play with it when i get bored someday :toast:

[eva2000]

i'd like to see some max cpu speeds for 3dmark2003 vs max cpu speeds for superpi 8-32M see if it behaves the same as FX-57 in that 3d2k3 needs more vcore to pass than other benchmarks

[dinos22]

Something tht concerned me though is tht even though the CPU primed upto 3hrs, he didnt stop it but it rebooted his CPU! I find this very strange behavoir, usually prime should just fail, a reboot tell me tht he may have spikes on his CPU voltage. A rock stable CPU voltage line is a must for pushing these babiesi wouldn't be concerned about that...i had a couple of Week 17 EPMW Venice CPUs and week 16 GPAW CPU......week 17 CPUs would stop with an error in Prime or SuperPI or OCCT.........week 16 on the other hand would just reboot or hardlock....strange CPUs.........week 16 was 32M SuperPI stable at 2.9GHz....if I went 1MHz higher in HTT.....reboot...hehehe with Wk17 CPUs they were stable up to 2850/2875 in 32M if i tried Spi even at 2950 on them it would just error but not crash/reboot......also I needed less Vcore with Week16 for SPI/more for 3D but I needed more vcore with Week17s for SPI/less for 3D

[dsumanik]

anyone try and lay the smackdown on the dual core opti's yet?

[dinos22]

anyone try and lay the smackdown on the dual core opti's yet?
one user is getting his early next week at OCAU...Opteron 175....hopefully he'll OC it a bit...i'll post results if it happens

[Vapor]

Well it seems my GTX is in a very good mood to run fast but seems to get lost....it's scoring lower on higher clocks (and it is actually running the higher clocks according to RT) than what it used to....I did manage to pull a 37.4k in 01 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8737127), even with a lowly Nature score :stick:

Not gonna try AQ3 or 03/05 until I figure out what's up with my GTX (it's running a whole 50MHz higher than it did a few weeks ago--and actually running it too--but scoring lower).

As for the 4 other settings in the BIOS--those are mainly for dual core processors, IIRC.

EDIT: I think I may have a solution to my GTX problems.

[dinos22]

soooo any DI action yet

looks like the Dual Core Opteron 175 dude's got to wait for the Expert board which is a couple of weeks away..... :(

[Ferry82]

soooo any DI action yet

looks like the Dual Core Opteron 175 dude's got to wait for the Expert board which is a couple of weeks away..... :(

Omg :stick: wish i could get that Opteron :slapass:

[dogsx2]

Took out the 146 and put back in the 144. With a bad mb it's hard to do much. Went back to default Vcore and was able to get this. With new mb I know it will go higher.

http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/7254/2930occt2gn.th.jpg (http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2930occt2gn.jpg)

[asianguy80]

http://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/maxstable4.jpg (http://www.supload.com/free/maxstable4.jpg/view/)

Ok here is my last half assed attempt for today. I just did a quick SPi8M run at 290 @ 1.4 + I think 6.6% I dont remember for the life of me. I used a 5/6 dividier. temps idle for 37-38 and while SPi'ing it ramped up to 45, the highest during the 5 minutes.

I know this isn't the greatest OC because everyone else has extreme cooling but I only have my air and it's pretty hot here in CA. This morning was actually pretty cool to my surpise so i tried my luck and I think I did ok. I'll have time later tonight to tweak some more. Also for some reason choosing 1T/2T command clock isn't showing up in my bios. it disappeared from the options so i'm gonna hve to install a64 tweaker later tonight. I won't be able to check the forums until later tonight. this is my personal best with the 10x multi. I tried 300 but the system would hardlock or reboot if i tried 300 and i upped that voltage to about 1.55.

[afireinside]

Is that on a neo4? Not a bad OC at all considering the cooling and motherboard. Do you have any watercooling?

[gundamit]

I know this isn't the greatest OC because everyone else has extreme cooling but I only have my air and it's pretty hot here in CA. This morning was actually pretty cool to my surpise so i tried my luck and I think I did ok. Yeah, it was a little cooler this morning. Just a few degrees drop in air temps gave me my best run yet.

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4927/342x934div32m9xe.png

[Millyons]

what are your load temps with the XP90C

[ozzimark]

for anyone who wants to read it, i just wrote up part 2 of my review:
http://eclipseoc.com/index.php?id=3,29,0,0,1,0

:toast:

[jahjahbinks]

Anyone have any success with prime yet?

[ozzimark]

Anyone have any success with prime yet?
depends on what you mean. i'm >3 hours prime stable at 2.7ghz with 1.47v, but that was a while ago, i think i can get a bit more out of it ;)

[jahjahbinks]

Yeah, that's what I wanted to know.

[ozzimark]

well.. some of us will get to that soon. i plan on using this as my main rig for a while, so i'll definitly do a lot of testing to see where it tops out.

[Vapor]

I will never run Prime on any of my computers--ever. ;)

[dogsx2]

Anyone have any success with prime yet?

Not prime but I did OCCT 2929@1.36v. My 3700sd would do it at 2900 but it took 1.6v. If the next stepping are close to this, I don't know why anyone would want to buy a sd.

http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2930occt2gn.jpg

[dogsx2]

I will never run Prime on any of my computers--ever. ;)

I hate prime too. I like OCCT. IF it will do 30 minutes, its stable above anything I'll ever need.

[Vapor]

Meh, I don't run my computers anywhere near their bench speeds, don't need it.

[jahjahbinks]

Well, the way I see it is that your treat computer like you gonna run SETI on it. Prime does FFT which is similar to SETI. Of course if you can get SETI going 24/7 then I have nothing to say.

Of course some people will disagree, so let's try this. Treat your coomputer as if you gonna play game on it, if you can play it as you would on any other computer from gateway, dell or whatever (i am talking about stability here), then I have nothing to say.

[ozzimark]

the problem is.. i never game. :D

[jahjahbinks]

Right on!

That's why I keep two computers, one that I do everything on and it won't go :slap: , the other I use it to :woot:

[dinos22]

Not prime but I did OCCT 2929@1.36v. My 3700sd would do it at 2900 but it took 1.6v. If the next stepping are close to this, I don't know why anyone would want to buy a sd.

http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2930occt2gn.jpg
congratualtions that is a monster CPU......

[187(V)URD@]

Not prime but I did OCCT 2929@1.36v. My 3700sd would do it at 2900 but it took 1.6v. If the next stepping are close to this, I don't know why anyone would want to buy a sd.

http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2930occt2gn.jpg

stepping plz :D .

My opteron 144 is on the way for only 149€. I'll try to compare it with a64 3000+ and a fresh install of winxp sp2.

[dogsx2]

stepping plz :D .

My opteron 144 is on the way for only 149€. I'll try to compare it with a64 3000+ and a fresh install of winxp sp2.

As far as I know there is only one and that is on both the 144 and 146:

0530APMW

They will sell more in the next month then since it came out in July.

[dinos22]

As far as I know there is only one and that is on both the 144 and 146:

0520APMW

They will sell more in the next month then since it came out in July.
0530 u mean

[dogsx2]

0530 u mean

I read it right off the 144 and still couldn't type it right, thanks.

[Vapor]

LOL, yeah, that's the only one in the wild right now.

[dinos22]

LOL, yeah, that's the only one in the wild right now.
i posted some OC results witha 0534SPMW Opteron 150 from Japanese guys over at OCAU doing 3.1GHz SPI....i'll dig it out :woot:

[Vapor]

We're talking about 144s though :stick:

Anyway, I'll be happy to see the 3.1GHz 150.

[dinos22]

http://happy.ap.teacup.com/applet/maiko2/archive?b=5

[dogsx2]

http://happy.ap.teacup.com/applet/maiko2/archive?b=5

That's a 150-2.4. That's why we haven't see that stepping. He didn't do any better then the 144 & 146. What's the price on them?

[Vapor]

Pretty impressive....glad my 146 goes faster with worse cooling though :D

[dogsx2]

Who's going to be the first to post phase results?

[Vapor]

Noses!

Oh, wait....:hitself:

Does anybody who has an Opty even have phase? :slap:

[dogsx2]

Noses!

Oh, wait....:hitself:

Does anybody who has an Opty even have phase? :slap:

I thought that what you name implied; vapor phase. You don't have it?

[Vapor]

I chose that name because the Brine Vapor is my ex-favorite lacrosse head :D

I was an utter n00b when I chose it, too. Didn't even know was phase-change was.

And if I did have it, the power circuitry in my dorm couldn't handle it. :(

[Vapor]

Alright everyone, I'm pulling my 146 out until better cooling comes to Ann Arbor.

I also want to check the kind of contact I made as 38C idle seems rediculous as is 54C OCCT load....then again, 3.18GHz 1M stable from a $220 processor with 1MB L2 is a little rediculous too :woot:

EDIT: VERY nice MM!!! :toast:

[VulgarHandle]

you guys think monarch or newegg will sell these w/out the heatsink/fans? that'd be nice, and cheaper of course

[ArcTan]

excellent work there MM :clap: :toast:

[Vapor]

Excellent work MM!!!

w00t!

[xenolith]

you guys think monarch or newegg will sell these w/out the heatsink/fans? that'd be nice, and cheaper of course

Even if they do, it won't be much cheaper for OEM, $20 at the most. And, w/boxed you get a 3-year warranty instead of only 15-30 days.

[Rezag1000]

vandi is price gouging :D :D

[Vapor]

Shipping was like $15 :stick:

I would have been happy to pay more for my 3.18GHz :D

[VulgarHandle]

lol, 3yr, not concerned, concerned about $20 less, and usually free shipping w/ monarch :D

[jahjahbinks]

eWiz has 148 for 285

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=OS148BNBOX

Still waiting on 146 though.

[Vapor]

You can sleep after doing that?

How about maxxing out the CPU now :D

[Vapor]

You've got some nice memory and an excellent 146 there....w00t!

[Vandi423]

vandi is price gouging :D :D

lol

Damn paypal charges and shipping is what makes it bad. I would prefer not to send processors. That way I can study for my Econ Midterm this Tuesday. :(

[Vapor]

What OS? 2k3 or XPSP2? Load temps?

[ben805]

just curious...aren't these 146 suppose to be the socket 939 version? how come cpuz reported socket 940 on MickeyMouse's opti??

[Vapor]

It says it for me, too.

CPU-Z's gotta catch up ;)

[Vapor]

Just thinking....anybody got any ideas how to get TCCD to work to its full potential on these? I really wish I could use my 4800LA :stick:

[xenolith]

vandi is price gouging :D :D

Correction: That would be paypal that is gouging. :stick: :D

[asianguy80]

Is that on a neo4? Not a bad OC at all considering the cooling and motherboard. Do you have any watercooling?

Yes it's a Neo4 Plat/non-sli. I think it's "decent" I haven't seen anyone else on any other forum that is using the neo4 plat anyways so i guess its the best for this board :p I dont have any WC. Everyone else using opty's are using DFI boards and I dont want to shell out the cash for another mobo. I'm probably gonna stick with 939 for a while and wait out for the ati mobo's. I'm eyeing the Sapphire Grouper board after seeing such a good review @ Anandtech for the reference board they were using.


Just thinking....anybody got any ideas how to get TCCD to work to its full potential on these? I really wish I could use my 4800LA :stick:

What do you mean by full potential? like running 1:1? I have some LE's and they are only stable @ 280 1:1 with the rated timings of 2.5-3-3-7. For some reason my 1T/2T option disappeared when I reset the CMOS after my system wouldn't post so right now i'm stuck with 2T until i get a64 tweaker on the system.

[Vapor]

I mean I can't run over 268 3-4-4-10, LOL. I'd like to be able to run 308 2.5-3-3-0 like I can with my 4400+.

[asianguy80]

i see what you mean. then i guess it holds true to some extent that these opty's don't like tccd on bp808's that much.

[gundamit]

I mean I can't run over 268 3-4-4-10, LOL. I'd like to be able to run 308 2.5-3-3-0 like I can with my 4400+. Check post #70 for my TCCD test. Ran my OCZ rev.2 Plats at their regular timings and top speed.

[Vapor]

Guess I've got a lot of tweaking to do....later though, it's pulled for the week.

[Millyons]

i really hope TCCD -BU808 are OK i just got some G.Skill 4400LE and i want a opty

[Zeus]

Just thinking....anybody got any ideas how to get TCCD to work to its full potential on these? I really wish I could use my 4800LA :stick:

Strange thing with these CPU's lately, my 0531 Venice seems to hate my TCCD too.
CPU does ok as long as i use a divider and don't let RAM speed go higher than ~270MHz. :rolleyes:

The RAM can do 300 2,5-3-3-7 though.
Seems these opty's like Ballistix much better, according to Jason's results.

[dogsx2]

vandi is price gouging :D :D

What??? I ordered a 144 and then later ordered a 146. I received them quicker then when I order from Monarch(300 miles away). He quoted the the price and showed pp charge and shipping. I am well pleased with what I got from him and hope when I buy another he will do business with me.

Go to the gas station, that's price gouging. Your wrong to say that about Vandi.

Thanks Vandi, your the best:thumbsup:

[dinos22]

congrats to MM on that 305MHz run....these Opterons certainly look like they have solid memory controllers..... :toast: :toast: :toast:

[Zeus]

there seems to be well with my ballistix anyways some werid "BIOS" setting issues ;) doesn't mean the ram doesn't like the ddr controller on the chip "OF COURSE" but you seem to not be able to use the bios 'hint hint' so i resort to windows and It works flawlessly there. :) I dont or have never owned TCCD so I cant comfirm this stange issues with that brand ,but my UTT/BH-5 doesn't do what the ballistix is doing in the bios so not sure if the issues peope are ATM refering to are the same. :(

What kind of weird bios settings are you referring to?
It's unstable in either memtest and windows, no matter what timings/settings.

Tried every trick in the book, single channel is a little more stable but still very bad, dual channel is a nightmare. :(

[fullup3]

Wow, these things are awesome. Keep the 3d results coming....
I would like to see some aquamark and '03 scores.

[sl4ck]

Does exist any Motherboard Support List for these babies??

I wanna buy Abit AN8 Ultra 939 to mount one of these, does it support?

[gundamit]

Didn't think I would get lucky again after I had such a good time with my 144. But early signs are encouraging especially the low volts. Testing my TCCD (for Vapor) at non tweaked timings.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5179/300x10910div9vr.png

The only bad news is my modded mounting bracket for my Mach II isn't giving me a good seal. If you know anyone who has one to sell, please PM me. Won't test on my Prommie until I know I have a good seal.

[gundamit]

this air cooled or water cooler? nice results Still on water.

[Eljefe62]

If I break the seal on my IHS, does the mounting of a heatsink (xp-90 specifically) need to be adjusted, or will it still work fine just mounting it normally?

ps, is it price gouging if people are willing to pay? I thought that was capitalism...

[gundamit]

Had to throw a lot more volts at it but the 146 is doing what the 144 could not ... 3.1Ghz! :woot:

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/3985/310x10910div4mk.png

[xenolith]

Nice gundamit. Nice to see your 146 doing better than your 144. But is an additional 100mhz worth an additional $60? Being the anal best-bang-for-buck guy that I am, I broke down what we have so far:

144 3.0ghz o/c / 146 3.1ghz o/c (so far) = 3.3% increase

144 $160 retail / 146 $220 retail = 37.5% price premium

You be the judge. But it's going to take alot more for me to feel bad about choosing the 144. :D

[computersmsa]

xenolith -> oc = 0.000 %
It's depending of the die (stepping) :toast:
But 146 = 10x max

[gundamit]

Nice gundamit. Nice to see your 146 doing better than your 144. But is an additional 100mhz worth an additional $60? Being the anal best-bang-for-buck guy that I am, I broke down what we have so far:

144 3.0ghz o/c / 146 3.1ghz o/c (so far) = 3.3% increase

144 $160 retail / 146 $220 retail = 37.5% price premium

You be the judge. But it's going to take alot more for me to feel bad about choosing the 144. :D The last thing anyone should be feeling is "bad" about buying either. Rather thay should be thanking their lucky stars and Vandi for giving us this opportunity to play with the best bang for buck CPU this year. And we did it before what Charlie described as the "unwashed masses" get wind of whats going on. Hopefully Vandi keeps us in mind the next time something like this comes along even though I'm sure it was a big headache and time consuming putting these orders together.

Hmmm ... might not even be 100mhz difference my two CPUs. I do like the 146 because of more chances to hit the sweet spots on memory. But being a cheap bastard I am in awe of the 144!

[gundamit]

The volts keep streaking up while the clock comes up just a little. Nearly topped out now.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5089/314x10910div4dq.png

I think I'll get back to my old BH-5 to see if I can get <24:20 in 32M.

[dogsx2]

Nice clocks, what kind of temp do you get under load at the 1.552v?

[xenolith]

xenolith -> oc = 0.000 %
It's depending of the die (stepping) :toast:
But 146 = 10x max

That's why I was going to get the 146. Having the extra (10x) multi was very attractive. But by what I've seen so far, high HTT doesn't appear to be any problem with the right setup. :toast:

[afireinside]

The last thing anyone should be feeling is "bad" about buying either. Rather thay should be thanking their lucky stars and Vandi for giving us this opportunity to play with the best bang for buck CPU this year. And we did it before what Charlie described as the "unwashed masses" get wind of whats going on. Hopefully Vandi keeps us in mind the next time something like this comes along even though I'm sure it was a big headache and time consuming putting these orders together.

Hmmm ... might not even be 100mhz difference my two CPUs. I do like the 146 because of more chances to hit the sweet spots on memory. But being a cheap bastard I am in awe of the 144!


146 had 10x multi which is much better than 9x. Not so sure about me sweet spots... I need a /13 divider :(

Nice clocks BTW gundamit.

[dogsx2]

The volts keep streaking up while the clock comes up just a little. Nearly topped out now.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5089/314x10910div4dq.png

I think I'll get back to my old BH-5 to see if I can get <24:20 in 32M.

The ss on link #352 with the 144 at 3078.9 @1.472v with 2gb ram compares great with the 146 at 3140.8@1.552v with 1gb ram.

144 pi32m=24m24.391

146 pi32m=24m32.937

[gundamit]

Nice clocks, what kind of temp do you get under load at the 1.552v? I'm still under 50c but that might get better when the block settles.

[gundamit]

The ss on link #352 with the 144 at 3078.9 @1.472v with 2gb ram compares great with the 146 at 3140.8@1.552v with 1gb ram.

144 pi32m=24m24.391

146 pi32m=24m32.937 Yeah but to be fair to the TCCD they aren't hitting thier sweet spot and I didn't spend time playing with the timing. Love the patriots though ... my memory ... not so much the team.

[eva2000]

The ss on link #352 with the 144 at 3078.9 @1.472v with 2gb ram compares great with the 146 at 3140.8@1.552v with 1gb ram.

144 pi32m=24m24.391

146 pi32m=24m32.937still seems a tad low to me

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/FX57/MCW6002/SLI-DR/Crucial/PC4000_DC/single/3_1/623_3/LDT3x/11x/277-277-3338-8-18-2223_1.57-1.3-1.6-2.76_4708_dsAddsA_ANA_16_16x7x/superpi-32m_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/FX57/MCW6002/SLI-DR/Crucial/PC4000_DC/single/3_1/623_3/LDT3x/11x/281-281-3338-7-18-2213_1.57-1.3-1.6-2.85_4708_dsAddsA_ANA_8clk_16x7x/superpi-32m_3096_tn.jpg

[bachus_anonym]

@gundamit,

I don't want to be negative... But either you must have had CPU-Z and ITE SG both open during that run above or I don't know what else. But 24:32 is really bad for 3140Mhz an 1GB RAM, even at 7-3-4-2.5-1T... :shrug:

EDIT: I would change that RAM to BH-5 for further testing, you know. Those times can make people suspicious, especially when looking at such high clocks on air/water. I just noticed that you have Dynamic Idle Cycle Counter on Disabled... That will kill 32M more than TRC=12, :hehe:

[dogsx2]

[QUOTE=eva2000]still seems a tad low to me

LOL, I'm comparing him to himself. You are one of the all time greats with memory. I'm sure you could take a $150 set of 2gb ram and beat a $300 set.

[eva2000]

gundamit needs to tighten Idle Cyle to 16clks and enable Dynamic counter and see what happens i guess

this is 12x245mhz 2.5-3-2-5 with 2x1GB Patriot PC3200LLK

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/FX57/MCW6002/SLI-DR/Patriot/2GB_PC3200LLK/1_2/704_2BTA/LDT4x/12x/245-245-2.5325_7-18-2222_1.45-1.3-1.6-2.69_4708_dsAddsA_16clk_7F55_16x7x_DCon/12x245mhz_25325_32073_image001.gif

can't wait to get my opteron 144 and 146s to put some ram through their paces as well :)

[bachus_anonym]

@eva2000,

yeah, I edited my above post before I saw yours... I just get suspicious when I see such bad times at very high clocks :p: :lol:

[...:::MadDog:::]

Very powerfull your memos, god luck whit the 315 @ 3-3-3-5-7-14-1t (more volts ?)

When do you put your opty in subzero temps ?

hug'zz

[dinos22]

that's great MM....are you able to do any SPI with 310MHz

[gundamit]

Gee guys. Here I was all set to go to my Mushkin BH-5 and suddenly I get tips on tightening my timing on the TCCD. I did mention I didn't do anything with the timings right? In any case I appreciate the input and give it a try and will report back in.

[dogsx2]

WOW :woot:

[4rory]

I always did love quality silicone.

[Vapor]

*cough*silicon*cough*

[ozzimark]

*cough*silicon*cough*
no, you mean boobies! :toast:


MM, 315mhz would be amazing. get to work :banana:

[Sephir0th]

gundamit which bios are you using? I heard you have to use 704-BT(A) to get TCCD working, is this correct?

[dinos22]

time to drop the multiplier

[gundamit]

Per your suggestions I've changed the timings and dropped some time from the 32M run at 3.14ghz. Thanks.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/933/314x10910divtighter0jq.png

[dinos22]

so you can't run those sticks at 2.5-3-3-6 1T or......

that OC (3140MHz) with really optimised settings should land you low to mid 23m times

[gundamit]

so you can't run those sticks at 2.5-3-3-6 1T or...... I lose TRCD 3 somewhere in the 270s. This is not super TCCD, its merely good.


gundamit which bios are you using? Its one of the 702s, can't remember which. Lol.

[Vapor]

Hmmm, I'm using 704-2BTA (supposedly doesn't have the TCCD problem, w/e), oh how I want to retry my luck with my 146 but I really need to do work :(

[gundamit]

Gun> I might catch ya TCCD with 2gig's :) I'm anxious to get may Patriots back in there but I need to figure out whats up with my TCCD first.

You've already posted a sub 24 minute 32m run. :slobber: Makes me want those Crucials so bad!

[Vapor]

MM, can you give us a Tweaker shot? :D

I think my Ballistix aren't as bad as I once thought.

[gundamit]

check the timings out on the SS i jsut posted tho ;) LowLatency at ddr500 That is just sick. Didn't know Crucial could do that as well.

[Ugly n Grey]

Great thread you guys, almost 12,000 views on this thread alone at the time of this post. I can see these easily being the chip of coice for AMD guys on the board here.

While I rarely take the opportunity, I'm going to say "I told you so" to the guys who claimed I was off my rocker when I stated the AMD and IBM sales droids assured me Opty's were tested and binned differently. I see you here in this thread jumping on the bandwagon :D

I feel so vindicated I could weep....but I'd rather have a couple new optys and a hot nurse to make up for it.

Great stuff, I'm going to try the dualies as soon as I can get my hands on a released one.

[jahjahbinks]

You are the one who ordered dual core Opteron?

[Ugly n Grey]

I already have dual core Opty's but they are all 940 pin chips, I mean I want the 939's

[jahjahbinks]

Oh, because I read in a post a couple of days ago that someone ordered a 939 pin dual core opteron, so unless I read it wrong, it's 939 not 940.

[dinos22]

165/170/175/180 are all Socket939 Dual Cores

[Vapor]

I didn't know there was a 180 available yet?

[dinos22]

I didn't know there was a 180 available yet?
announced yes.....available NOT sure

one of our retailers has 3x175 CPUs left in stock...damn i wish i was a loaded damn it

[mongoled]

Per your suggestions I've changed the timings and dropped some time from the 32M run at 3.14ghz. Thanks.


Hey gundamit,

I took a look at your tccd timings and their is something I would like to ask you. Why do you use these values:

Max Async: 10ns
Read Preamble: 8ns

I have two sticks of Gskill tccd, LC's (the poor ones ;)) and they do 2.5-4-3-7 up to 305mhz stable. I currently have 'Max Async' set to 7ns and 'Read Preamble' is set at 5ns. Their are a few other different settings which im going to change to yours to see if the mem will still run at 305mhz rock stable.

I report my results in a bit

[Vapor]

I need a really high preamble to even get the Opty above 2.8GHz. Max async was also higher than what I used in my 4400+ but I needed it to get stable above 3.1GHz.

[mongoled]

I need a really high preamble to even get the Opty above 2.8GHz. Max async was also higher than what I used in my 4400+ but I needed it to get stable above 3.1GHz.

Yes, ive suspected for a while tht these settings need tweaking according to CPU type. At the moment im using my old Winny, it seems to need different settings to the Venice I had. The Venice was alot more particular to these settings!!

Ofcourse I will be doing alot of testing once my 146 gets here and these settings will get alot of my attention.

Anyhow ive just tested with gundamit settings, I made changes in my bios for trc/trfc/trrd/twr/by pass max/idle cycle. Tightening Trc and Trfc has given me a nice increase in bandwidth in memtest (havnt tested elsewhere) if i were to try and get this same increase by using a Trcd value of 3 (I have 4 set in bios) I would get alot of errors in memtest.

With the tighter timings 305mhz gives me single bit errors, 300mhz is fine, im going to try 'burning in' at 300mhz with the tighter timings, then move the mhz up later on. Im very happy with my LC's, i believe the constant tweaking has helped break these in nicely.

Gundamit,

Can you tell me why you have 'By Pass Max' set to 7x? Ive never played with this setting, nor seen anybody else talk abt this setting, so im curious to know wht your experiences are with this.

[Vapor]

7x Bypass Max speeds things up in 32M and according at least one guy on Team Japan, adds stability.

[afireinside]

I have no clue what bypass I was running at 3527... I DID need higher async/preable to break 3050 though.

[dinos22]

a lot of you have been wondering what motherboards these Opteron CPUs are actually made for..............well here it is

http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tomcatk8e.html

http://www2.amd.com/us-en/recmobo/DetailHandler/1,,30_2252_869_8819%5E8821,00.html?queryID=100327

all this trouble over one freaking motherboard......might as well let all the other manufacturers support these.......

[Zeus]

W000T!!!
Managed to track one down-- with the magical stepping!!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37851&stc=1

Gonna torture this baby tonight!!! :D

[Vapor]

W000T!!!
Managed to track one down-- with the magical stepping!!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37851&stc=1

Gonna torture this baby tonight!!! :DGood job....have fun with it, it's a good one (the production number is VERY close to mine, too) ;)

[gundamit]

Well I finally gave up on my TCCD at 314x10 9:10 divider. My best run was at 24:06.922. Oh well.


I took a look at your tccd timings and their is something I would like to ask you. Why do you use these values:

Max Async: 10ns
Read Preamble: 8ns No reason in particular. I'm usually just thrashing about or going with auto settings. I did drop the Read Preamble to 7ns on my final TCCD run which was 2 seconds faster than my last posted results, so dropping it more may help.

I put in my BH-5 and tried to find my max clock. I think its 3.15ghz but unfortunately I have to use the 7:10 divider and that runs my BH-5 a lot lower than their top speed.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9957/315x10710divtight3pa.png

My BH-5 won't go to> 258 so i had to drop the speed to 3.1ghz in order to go with the 3:4 divider. First run came up at 24:01.719. Tried defragging the drives (couldn't hurt) moved the SuperPi program off a partition to the small root drive, turned off DLL in Tweaker and moved DQS Skew Mode from Slow to fast in Tweaker. Took another run ...

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/6281/310x1034divadf1za.png

and i finally get to under 24 minutes in SuperPi 32M. :woot:

Later on this week I'll get my Patriots back in and do some more testing. Perc has kindly offered to send me the bracket I need to get my Prommie going. Hopefully next weekend I'll be sub-zero. Anyone care to guess what I should expect to see with mild sub zero cooling?

Finally remembered to get A64MaxTCase.

http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/4932/maxtemp8js.png

Dang. I was hoping for 67c rating! :(

[Zeus]

Please allow me to brag a little... :D

How's 3GHz stock voltage watercooled sound?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37859&stc=1

Didn't do much else tbh, but still nice.

Have done 32M@ 2850 stock voltage, no problem but the time was very bad, i think windows is borked. :mad:

Will try some more, haven't been passed stock Vcore yet, all seems to work flawless with my Gskill TCCD although ClockGen won't work proper if i try to raise HTT more than 10MHz so i have to overclock oldschool in Bios.

[Vapor]

About CG, I've learned to never make adjustments more than 2-3MHz HTT at a time...it sucks but it's what's necessary I've learned.

Good looking OC there, bud. :D

[gundamit]

Please allow me to brag a little... :D

How's 3GHz stock voltage watercooled sound? Sounds good! How high do you have to raise the volts to get it 32M stable at that speed? Post #422 has a guy at 3ghz 32M stable at 1.39v. :hehe:

Seriously though, please post tweaker settings so memory noobs like myself can be brought up to speed. :D Good luck. :thumbsup:

[Micketh]

These, things are really looking good just browsing thru all the threads on the forum, i just orderd one the other day it shud be here tommorow but unfortunatly ive only got air cooling :(... mines a 144 to replace my 3500+ newcastle, if it can OC higher that is. Which stepping for these CPU's is best?

[Zeus]

It doesn't seem to like a divider, it bluescreens on me say trap_unknown_blablah. WTF?
Never mind, backed down to 2,5-4-3-7 and was able to complete a 32M run at 305x10 using just 1.42Vcore.
310x10 bluescreened yet again with the same error.

For now i'm happy, will do the usual stuff at 300x10 1:1 2,5-3-3-7 like webbrowsing and stuff. :D

So i think it's safe to say it plays nice with TCCD, no?

Here's 32M at 305x10 2,5-4-3-7, no idea what's causing the extreme long calculation time. :confused:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37862&stc=1

More to come...

[Vapor]

Looking good...what BIOS Zeus?

[Zeus]

Bios 623 that came as standard.
I don't get it, 32Mstable @ 305x10 but anything over 308x10 bluescreens with error TRAP_CAUSE_UNKOWN no matter the voltage.

Using dividers gives the same error.

Have to work things out, perhaps preamble too low?

[eva2000]

Here's 32M at 305x10 2,5-4-3-7, no idea what's causing the extreme long calculation time. :confused:

weird that is very slow what a64tweaker settings you show ?

i.e.

300mhz 2.5-3-3-7

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/FX57/MCW6002/SLI-DR/Gskill/PC4800FF/1000_999/623_3/LDT3x/10x/300-300-2.5337_8-16-2222_1.425-1.3-1.6-2.85_4708_ds8dds2_ANA_16clk_16x7x/superpi-32m_tn.jpg

300mhz 2.5-4-4-8

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/FX57/MCW6002/SLI-DR/Gskill/PC4800FF/1000_999/623_3/LDT3x/10x/300-300-2.5448_7-14-2222_1.425-1.3-1.6-2.85_3072_ds8dds2_ANA_16clk_16x7x/superpi-32m_tn.jpg

300mhz 2.5-4-3-8

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SLI_D/results/FX57/MCW6002/SLI-DR/Gskill/PC4800FF/1000_999/623_3/LDT3x/10x/300-300-2.5448_7-14-2222_1.425-1.3-1.6-2.85_3072_ds8dds2_ANA_16clk_16x7x/superpi-32m_maxasync_8ns_trp3_tn.jpg

[Zeus]

No idea what's going on with 32M. :confused:

Here's my timings:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37864&stc=1

For those who want to see stability:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37865&stc=1

I think i can do that with slightly less Vcore as well.

Temps are ok:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37866&stc=1

[GRAFiZ]

Looking good!!!

Zeus, what type of cooling are you using?

[Vincentvega18]

Looking good!!!

Zeus, what type of cooling are you using?
Watercooled, as he said with the first results.

[freestylercs]

First prime screen in this thread :stick:

not the best cpu, but FX57 @stock vcore

http://mitglied.lycos.de/freestylercs/hpbimg/144@2800MHz@1,4V.JPG


http://mitglied.lycos.de/freestylercs/hpbimg/32m.JPG

free

[187(V)URD@]

if 32m timings are borked, try to run pi from another partition.

[freestylercs]

if 32m timings are borked, try to run pi from another partition.


yes, i know. wiht a blank win XP theres more performance.
but theres no delight for me to formatting a new partition.

In Germany all the Opterons are sold, now i´m waiting for the next delivery to get a 146er.

free

[harleybro]

I have the same problem with odd 32M times. My 1M runs fine and spped seems right my 32 M seems at least 10min slow. I will be loading a new HD tonight and trying again. :confused:

[kakaroto]

It doesn't seem to like a divider, it bluescreens on me say trap_unknown_blablah. WTF?
Never mind, backed down to 2,5-4-3-7 and was able to complete a 32M run at 305x10 using just 1.42Vcore.
310x10 bluescreened yet again with the same error.

For now i'm happy, will do the usual stuff at 300x10 1:1 2,5-3-3-7 like webbrowsing and stuff. :D

So i think it's safe to say it plays nice with TCCD, no?

Here's 32M at 305x10 2,5-4-3-7, no idea what's causing the extreme long calculation time. :confused:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37862&stc=1

More to come...

Very nice result my friend :D

[asianguy80]

I don't have time to run 32m but the best I can do right now with 8M is in this screenie:
http://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/maxsstable5.JPG (http://www.supload.com/free/maxsstable5.JPG/view/)

I think it's time to drop the multi. I just updated my bios to the latest 1.9 with liveupdate and it does better then it did before with the 1.3 bios and I got my 1T/2T timings back after the bios update. so far 295x10 5:6 divider @ 1.4+9.9% which is like 1.532v in the bios but cpuz reads it as 1.48x-1.504 stupid volts flucuate a lot on this mobo.

Idle temps were at 38's and load while running spi8m was 49c i tried moving clockgen up 1mhz and the system hardlocked. All this is probably because i'm using an MSI mobo :slapass: not as crazy as your guys' dfi's. Maybe if i'm bored this week ill give it a run in my shuttle lol we'll see what happens after i drop to a 9x multi.

[Zeus]

Tried to re-install win XP but the first reboot after installation results in a bsod and a reboot right after it, i have no clue what's going on.
I was able to get into safe mode and install DirX9.0 and NF4/videocard drivers but it didn't help.
Tried to re-install 3 times, everytime the same behaviour.

Now i'm on an acient version of win2K which works flawless.

Odd,i will have a closer look tomorrow.

I was expecting to see around 24 minutes for 32M, soon as i have XP running again i will give it another go.

Something is holding me back, don't know what yet, without getting any signs of instability in SuperPi or anything i just get this wierd BSOD.

In other words, i have some work to do. :D

CPU is great, best bang for buck money can buy at the moment, even better than a stock $1000,- FX57. :)

[dogsx2]

I'd try a different bios. In post #22 I got 25m56.610 on 32m on a bad mb in single channel. You should easily be in the 24m range.

I've had more fun playing with these then any other 64s. Nothing like the "gettng something for free" feeling.

[gbomb944]

As a member of the great unwashed I have to say I want one of these. It'd be nice if I could get one at the supposed $150 pricepoint but after all hype and awesome oc's I have a feeling they'll be listed higher and probably sell out too. The egg has eyes everywhere and I'm sure they're licking their proverbial chops at the prospect of listing the low end ones at $180.

How about if everybody that has one suddenly posts that they suck and don't oc anymore.

P :D lease?

[Zeus]

As a member of the great unwashed I have to say I want one of these. It'd be nice if I could get one at the supposed $150 pricepoint but after all hype and awesome oc's I have a feeling they'll be listed higher and probably sell out too. The egg has eyes everywhere and I'm sure they're licking their proverbial chops at the prospect of listing the low end ones at $180.

How about if everybody that has one suddenly posts that they suck and don't oc anymore.

P :D lease?

Ok, these cpu's suck.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38108&stc=1

:D

[gbomb944]

Ok, everybody else join in. And say it with conviction!

[jahjahbinks]

Well, the market is driven by consumers.

[LowRun]

Ok, these cpu's suck.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37885&stc=1

:D

Sure and i 'm so sad one of them is coming my way :(

[gbomb944]

Sorry about that bro, we feel your pain.

[VulgarHandle]

please, i don't remember a huge premium on mobile bartons when they came out...... competition is just as big as supply/demand

[xenolith]

Sure and i 'm so sad one of them is coming my way :(

You could sell it to me. :D

[fullup3]

Yea, I've ordered a 146 too. To bad they suck... I should have just ordered a celeron from newegg!

[LowRun]

You could sell it to me. :D

I'm not that bad :D

[dinos22]

anyone actually order the Dual Cores at all

[xenolith]

I was going to get a 165, until the rational side of my brain protested the $460 price tag. :slapass:

I think Gray n Ugly said he was going to get one.

[dinos22]

I was going to get a 165, until the rational side of my brain protested the $460 price tag. :slapass:

I think Gray n Ugly said he was going to get one.
i think the 165 is a bit on the pricey side BUT that depends how it OCs....the other models are on part with 2x1M cache X2 CPUs......so shouldn't stop people who were thinking of going X2 in either 4400+ and 4800+

[xenolith]

Is there any real-world improvement to having the extra cache with dual core? I know there's practically none with single core.

[dinos22]

Is there any real-world improvement to having the extra cache with dual core? I know there's practically none with single core.
extra cache is the next speed bump......i.e. 200MHz so that's what the difference is........ 2.6GHz 2x1MB cache is the same as 2.8GHz 2x215K cache

[xenolith]

extra cache is the next speed bump......i.e. 200MHz so that's what the difference is........ 2.6GHz 2x1MB cache is the same as 2.8GHz 2x215K cache

I understand AMD's speed classification. But it has been proven by several sources (i've seen) that the extra cache isn't nearly as significant as a 200mhz boost. I'm just wondering if it's the same with dual core.

[delas52]

When will new-egg have them?

[gundamit]

I've had more fun playing with these then any other 64s. Nothing like the "gettng something for free" feeling. Its a high unlike any other. Suddenly it was like I didn't need any sleep last week. :D Turned into an OC zombie mumbling " uhrnnnn ... must have more speed ... urhnnn".

Thank goodness I'm through with my initial testing. I can get some sleep again. Next week when I get on the Prommie, I'll have to stock on this stuff. (http://xoxide.com/lightning-bolt-asian-experiance.html) :toast:
How about if everybody that has one suddenly posts that they suck and don't oc anymore. P lease?Okay I'll add my mine to the others. They suck. Stay away from these CPUs. Can't even get to 3.2ghz on water! ;)

[TooRUde]

should be getting my 144 and 146 by wed or thursday. praying I still get one of the first production models. I will cry if I get 0531 and it hits just 2.7 like my current venice

[Justinkoko]

where do you guys get these cpu?

is all 146 opteron 939pin?

[afireinside]

We got them from Vandi423. He doesn't have any more. His name as source is plastered all over every single page of every opteron thread a minimum of 5 times :stick:

[Zeus]

Win2K LargeSystemCache enabled in register:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37894&stc=1 :banana:

As good as Win XP i think?

[dinos22]

great 32M time

i'm getting some replacement LEs tomorrow....can't wait to get stuck into them.....fingers crossed to some decent 2.5-4-3-6 times

[afireinside]

Nice 32m... Thats what I got a 3.4ghz :stick:

[dogsx2]

Great 32m, you went from very bad to very,very good. Some tweaking.

[Ferry82]

After work i gonna get my 146 opteron :banana:

[ArcTan]

As a member of the great unwashed I have to say I want one of these. It'd be nice if I could get one at the supposed $150 pricepoint but after all hype and awesome oc's I have a feeling they'll be listed higher and probably sell out too. The egg has eyes everywhere and I'm sure they're licking their proverbial chops at the prospect of listing the low end ones at $180.

How about if everybody that has one suddenly posts that they suck and don't oc anymore.

P :D lease?I don't think it'll be that bad
a 144 here in Australia is about us$175 which is a few dollars more than a venice 3000

[dogsx2]

Its a high unlike any other. Suddenly it was like I didn't need any sleep last week. :D Turned into an OC zombie mumbling " uhrnnnn ... must have more speed ... urhnnn".

Thank goodness I'm through with my initial testing. I can get some sleep again. Next week when I get on the Prommie, I'll have to stock on this stuff. (http://xoxide.com/lightning-bolt-asian-experiance.html) :toast: Okay I'll add my mine to the others. They suck. Stay away from these CPUs. Can't even get to 3.2ghz on water! ;)

That drink might become the oc'ers drink of choice. Features:

100% Pure Steven Seagal Juice
Designed for intense mortal combat or any extreme situation requiring ultimate energy
Can has Steven Seagal’s face on it (who could ask for more!?!)

[dogsx2]

We got them from Vandi423. He doesn't have any more. His name as source is plastered all over every single page of every opteron thread a minimum of 5 times :stick:

I really feel sorry for him. His inbox must have a jillion request for them.

[gundamit]

That drink might become the oc'ers drink of choice. Features:

100% Pure Steven Seagal Juice
Designed for intense mortal combat or any extreme situation requiring ultimate energy
Can has Steven Seagal’s face on it (who could ask for more!?!)It has a nasty side effect though. People have reported pony tails sprouting from the back of their heads.

[delas52]

When will these be readily available on major online stores?

[gundamit]

When will these be readily available on major online stores?The Steven Seagal drinks? :confused: ;)

I wonder if AMD will actually run production up on these CPUs to meet demand and if there will be a sudden drop off in the quality of the CPUs. If the retail channel can't meet demand supplies may be sproradic for a while.

[delas52]

:D

I just want to know if I should delay buying a 3000+ venice to wait for these to come out big.

[gbomb944]

just want to know if I should delay buying a 3000+ venice to wait for these to come out big.

Nah. Opti's suck. Bad. Really Really bad. :)