Helheim's WaterCooling

[MaxxxRacer]

As welll as building Noldors Watercooling rig, I am working on Helheims watercooling system. today I got a bunch of stuff. Packages came from fedex, USPS, and UPS.

Sofar this is what I have

2xMCW6002 (dual xeon)
Lian-Li PC-7077
3x 80CFM Panaflo 120x38mm
3x Nexus Real Silent fan 120x25mm
5/8" T-Line
Wormdrive Hose Clamps

On the way from danger den, is a BIX3, D5, tygon, and some zerex.

The last two things will be a dangerden Fillport and maze4gpu, but those will have to wait a little while.

I really must say this lian li is huge.. but at the same time it is incredibly light and amazingly well made.

[n00b 0f l337]

Very nice...very nice, you got skillz m8.

[Helheim]

Got some pics?

[RObErT_RaTh]

He's keen Maxxx he's KEEN! :D

[MaxxxRacer]

robert, did you forget your medication or something?????? I dont get your post.

I will post up some pics helheim.. kinda wiped right now and a tad bit busy, but i will get some pictures. To keep everyones gear seperated, I jammed all the fans, waterblocks, etc in the case in an effort to maintain my sanity.

[MaxxxRacer]

here is a bump and a picture of pretty much all of the parts for anyone interested.

I will get down to the modding of the case pretty soon, but still need to get the fan grill for the top of the case.. waiting on performance-pcs to release the ACRyan grill..

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37102&stc=1

[Helheim]

Looks good, can't wait to see some more pics once you get started modding it all up. Does anyone know of any good flow meters with digital output that aren't over 200 bucks?

Thanks.

[MaxxxRacer]

sidewall finished. it turned out pretty nicely, but not as nice as i would have liked.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37108&stc=1

[Frambosie]

looks fine to me, aside from that little bump on the bottom :p Good job none the less. :D

[aMp]

Nothing a different fan grille won't mask. Gorgeous case and setup.

-aMp-

[nikhsub1]

Max, they are called HOLE SAWS... invest in some.

[MaxxxRacer]

nik, I got one.. I just dont like it as it makes the holes too small. Hole saws around here are all in american measurments, not in metric so finding something that is equivalent to 120mm is harder than one thinks. I used my whole saw on my case back in the day, and it works pretty well except when you slip and put a gigantic gouge in the case.

[nikhsub1]

Max, 4 - 4 1/4" is what to use for 120mm

[MaxxxRacer]

nik, the one I have is 4 1/4" . Personally I still find it too small and kills the venturi effect of the fan...

[nikhsub1]

nik, the one I have is 4 1/4" . Personally I still find it too small and kills the venturi effect of the fan...
Oh max, now you are getting dramatic on me :D seriously, any ROUND fan holes are no good in the first place...

[Helheim]

Ya it doesn't look that bad.

[Helheim]

How about just a filter on it?

http://www.bigfootcomputers.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/cooling/l_alum.jpg

Doesn't really matter me though.

[koola]

Oh that's a sweet case with some tasty watercooling :D

[MaxxxRacer]

Helheim if it REALLY bothers you, I will put an XS grill on there for free.

lol nik.. well in my defense, the hole i made is big enough to where the venturi effect isnt bothered as the corners of the fan (where the acutal venturi is) are not covered.

[Helheim]

It doesn't REALLY bother me but I'd like an XS grill, I'd even pay for it... :D

[MaxxxRacer]

lol.. check ur pm.

[MaxxxRacer]

ok.. this thing is DEAD Sexy...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37124&stc=1

[Helheim]

Very nice, looks great!

[Jupiler]

Very nice, although a small remark :

the fan grill doesn't cover the blowhole totally (bottom left side), which is to bad. Just my 0.02€.
Wouldn't it been better if you had made the cut in shape of the fangrill, instead of making a blowhole?

[MaxxxRacer]

well this fangrill was an afterthought. IF I had planned to cut the hole for this grill, i would have made it the 6 straight edged shape the grill is...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37133&stc=1

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37134&stc=1

[Jupiler]

Looking good so far.

What kind of barbs are you using on the radi? They look the same as DD uses on their GPU blocks.

[MaxxxRacer]

The barbs on the rad are just the stock ones that DD gives out. so yes they are the same ones as on all of their waterblocks.

I did the cutout for the BIX3 and I'm just awaiting on ACRyan to release those fan grills....

here are some pics

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37137&stc=1

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37138&stc=1

[fareastgq]

OOooOOOoOOo, another 7077, I was getting lonely, heh, anyway, my fav #1 water rig case, looks nice. Except u need a window man. Make maxx cut u a window, hahaha.

[Helheim]

I looked at some but they all seemed too small. Do you have a picture of yours?


OOooOOOoOOo, another 7077, I was getting lonely, heh, anyway, my fav #1 water rig case, looks nice. Except u need a window man. Make maxx cut u a window, hahaha.

[moonlightcheese]

for good windows check out voyeurmods.com. they have an awesome assortment of windows cut that you can put in any case. plenty of different dimensions and they can cut a custom window for you also.

[Frambosie]

things seem to be coming along great, im keeping an eye on this b/c i plan on building a rig with very simular h2o cooling :D

[aMp]

Hey Maxx, what'd you use to cut the top of that Lian-Li? I've been thinking of doing the same with my CM-Stacker, and I'd guess the aluminum is roughly the same.

-aMp-

[fareastgq]

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=280&products_id=1030

Here ya go

[MaxxxRacer]

amp: I used the dremel along with that template, and then finished it off with 150 grit paper and files.

the windows look great, but that one that performance-pcs sells I cant exactly copy. would have to get it from them. its not possible to copy it, as I have no way to mill lucite, dont have a riveter, and i dont have a laser cnc to make perfectly straight cuts.

BUT helheim and I have been disucssing that sidepanel, and he said he will probably purchase it at a later time.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37159&stc=1

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37160&stc=1

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37161&stc=1

[Frambosie]

looking great thus far!

[dsecrieru]

Awesome work! :slobber:

[Holst]

Looking very nice maxx :D

Is there any space to fit a shroud between the fans / core?

How far are the fans spaced off the core at the moment?

When using them to pull air through I found that it was allot quieter with a decent gap (like an inch)

[magg]

Ack!! Rotate the Panaflo's so their stickers are all going the same way. Damn OCD getting in the way :lol

That certainly is a site to behold, that's going to look gorgeous when it's finally finished. What are these oh so famous ACRyan grills you keep referring to?

Also [this is kind of more directed towards Helheim], why choose a reservoir instead of a t-line? I'd be worried to put what looks to be a hell of a system in a rig with a bay res, knowing how often things go wrong with those.

[Helheim]

From all the reading I did it just sounded like a res was better plus maxxx said if it's installed right there isn't usually a problem with them... I don't know, is a t-line really better?

[Holst]

The bay res is 100% fine as long as you are sensible when installing the barbs.

You can crack them and get a leak if you overtighten things. But as maxx knows what he is doing you should be fine with it.

[JasonDTM]

^^^ those RES' are good, but as you said, the downside is overtighting them as the mold line runs right across the barb bungs, I never did get a hole plug for my RES. lol

[MaxxxRacer]

I found that you can almost entirely tighten the barbs in by hand, so when it got too hard to tighten by hand I stopped. I will obviously do leak testing to confirm that the barbs are the correct tightness..

I did run into one issue.. I needed to install all of the tubing, but did not have the mobo to be able to attach the waterblocks to. Well as you will see I came up with a very cunning plan, and now all of the tubing is cut to length and ready to go.

As of now I am pretty much just waiting on the ACRyan grill (http://www.acryan.com/_radgrillz/index.shtml), and at that point all I will have left to do is attach the rad to the case and the pump to the case (they are only in temporary restraints at the moment)

holst, there is no shroud with the BIX, so the fans are bolted directly to it.. I would have liked to had a shroud, but the only one that would have worked is the shroud from vouyermods that is acrylic and those things are so shallow that you would be essentially wasting ur money to buy one


and now what you ahve all been waiting for.. the pictures..

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37193&stc=1

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37194&stc=1

[n00b 0f l337]

Very nice, nice and nice.

[LittleDevil]

Nice setup man.

[[XC] moddolicous]

Good idea with the mobo pic in the case. I never would have thought of that. Looks to be coming along very well. BTW, where do u live hellheim? It may be easier for u to pick it up than to ship it.

[heater918]

Really nice! I like the layout very clean looking. Helheim, that will make a very nice D2OL rig. Those XS grills really look good too :)

[Helheim]

Looks very nice, can't wait to get it!

I live in Calgary, Alberta so that would be a pretty far drive. :)

[MaxxxRacer]

As a testament to how good this case really is, I will be purchasing one of these for my own system when I have the money.. Its really an amazing case.

[Helheim]

Well now that I finally got it up and running here are some pics.

[Helheim]

Here are the specs:

(2) Intel Xeon M0 2.4Ghz @ 3.8Ghz
Asus PC-DL (vcore & vdimm modded)
ATI Radeon X850 XT
OCZ Platinum EB PC4000 2GB 2X1GB
(2) 74GB Raptors in Raid 0
PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool 510 XE Deluxe

[[XC] moddolicous]

Wow, looks very good hellheim. Is that gonna be folding rosetta?? And DIMES I assume. Can 4ghz xeons happen?

[Helheim]

I tried 4Ghz but it only runs for a few mins before crashing. Maybe with more volts but probably not. Ya I'll be putting a bunch of DIME vms on there sometime soon. I might try rosetta too. :D

[Helheim]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42388&stc=1&d=1137387726

3.8Ghz seems good though.

[REBEL900]

Nice, very nice, i like it.. :toast:

[MaxxxRacer]

Damn it looks good. How do you like it man?

I assume the tubing lengths were all correct? Spent alot of time making sure that they would be...

[olfen]

can we see some cinebench with those @3.8ghz? :)

[Leeum]

Kudos to Max for such a clean cutting job.

Enjoy it :toast:

[yotomeczek]

can we see some cinebench with those @3.8ghz? :)

NIce setup :slobber:
Some power to use :)
What temps ??
is this machine for video coding or what ?

[Cybertronic]

Is it not better to have the fans sucking through the radiator?

The airflow that's coming into the case seems rather restricted to me :stick:

Other than that, I like it :)

[MaxxxRacer]

Cyber, the fans are sucking air through the rad out of the case.

Bringing air into the case is 3 Nexus Stealth fans. One in bottom front, one in top back, and one on the side panel.

There are also 2 80mm exhaust fans next to the mobo. It shouldtn make a big difference which way those fans are pointing..

Leeum, thanks. Takes a long time to get the cut accurate enough for my liking.

[Cybertronic]

Sorry I didn't realise the rear case fans was facing the other way, good idea though :)

[MaxxxRacer]

No need to say sorry. No way you could have known.

[Helheim]

After I fixed the hole in the rad, but that was my fault, it's been great. Very speedy! :D I can't really put a CD ROM drive in it though. The drive fits but the connection is right behind the one tube. If that one had a bit of slack it would have been ok I think. Not a big deal though I as I don't really need one.

The onboard temp sensors say it's 32-33c idle and running four instances of prime it was 46-48c but, as MaxxxRacer says they don't mean much.


Damn it looks good. How do you like it man?

I assume the tubing lengths were all correct? Spent alot of time making sure that they would be...

[Mr. Tinker]

It's been my experience that fans sucking right up against a textured opening such as radiator fins or the grille of a case is louder than it "should" be (louder than the fan in open air). This is probably caused by the oscillating pressure differential created by the fan fins moving over the surface next to them. This happens only when the fan is a few mm away from the surface. Moving the fans just a bit away for the surface helps a lot, as well as switching to push.

Is this the case here and how far away from the rad fin surface are the fan blades?

[flesheatinvirus]

Very clean work there Maxx and Helheim.

[Helheim]

can we see some cinebench with those @3.8ghz? :)

32s without doing any tweaking yet. Gotta tighten up the memory timings and reduce the multi and increase the fsb still.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42425&stc=1&d=1137460026

[MaxxxRacer]

Helheim, I tried to make it work with CD-rom drives and I actually fit two in there when I fitted the case.

If you grab a lite-on 52x CD rom drive ~35 dollars, it is really short, and will fit great.

[Helheim]

Ok I'll give that a try, thanks.


Helheim, I tried to make it work with CD-rom drives and I actually fit two in there when I fitted the case.

If you grab a lite-on 52x CD rom drive ~35 dollars, it is really short, and will fit great.

[axion]

Damn that looks nice. I'm thinking of doing the same sorta thing except with the Lian-Li 70 case.

[Helheim]

So it doesn't look like FSB matters with cinebench hey? I tried 250FSB (3750Ghz) and it was worse, 32.7s.

[Coroner Kyle]

Great work Max.

Very nice system Helheim.

[Delirious]

The 7077 has to be my favorite lian-li that i have owned, and i have owned alot. Havent tried the newest v series, then again i havent really wanted to :D

Very nice rig you got there helheim, and good work maxx, love the xs grill, are they still for sale?

[Helheim]

Well this is about the best I can do:

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

just me, or is a D5 VERY weak for that setup? especially since it has a res.

[fareastgq]

welcome to the 7077 club, we are scarce yet here on XS ;)

[MaxxxRacer]

Delirious, no they are not unless you know someone who wants to machine them and get paid for them at a later date, or if someone wants to pay to have them machined (obviusly reimbursed after sale of grills)

[Hu1kamania]

Very nice....I love that setup. I have been to lazy to post my helhiem inspired setup (and by too lazy i mean, too busy playing with it :D ). MR did an outstanding job. The 7077 is an awsome case. There is no better looking case that has that much space.