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Xylo
07-24-2005, 06:33 PM
I need to pick out a PSU for my new system that will be watercooled. I'm wondering what special considerations I might want to be aware of in purchasing such?

I've looked at various websites that try to give good estimates for probable demands on the PSU depending on what you plan to put in the system, but one component they all leave out is any additional water-cooling equipment! So far, it seems to most sites that I won't really need much over a 350W PSU, so I'm thinking for going 450W to be safe. Naturally, also, will be over-clocking... (FWIW, it's an AMD64 3500+ w/ a Radeon X850 XT PE...so the demands aren't as bad as a nVidia 6800 or anything, but still non-trivial.)

I know the 12V capabilities are important...running the pump, etc. (there will also be some internal lighting) I want something with a decent # of amps on the 12V rails...but how much total will I realistically need? I've seen PSUs having anywhere form 19 to 34amps total on the 12V rails...

My biggest question though is: how nice/beneficial is it to have two separate 12V rails? (ie,. ATX 2.0, etc.)

And, is there anything else I should bear in mind with regards to WC'ing?

(My other reqs are also that it be something conducive to OC'ing, so if anyone has any input there also, I'd be more than happy to listen... ... Plus, I'm hoping to get a single 120mm fan PSU for noise reduction...and the modular cable PSUs seem interesting -- but in practice, just how useful are they?)

I've found plenty of nice power supplies that meet 2 of three of the following:
- dual 12V rails
- modular cables
- single 120mm

Any words from folks on just which "really" matter?...heh. I say the single 120mm for sound purposes, but perhaps that's wrong? As for the modular cabling, is it not that useful after all?


Thanks for any input anyone might have...
Xylo

Squid_Spit
07-25-2005, 05:03 AM
Most importantly whats your budget?

Xylo
07-25-2005, 04:05 PM
As for power...well, I'll be running a lot of stuff off it, so something around 500W? Maybe 480? Maybe 550? Maybe even 600W? Nothing below 480 though...

As for budget, well, was aiming at like $100-110, but would be willing to go to $120-130...

Squid_Spit
07-26-2005, 04:13 AM
Antec Smartpower 500w will be great for you Modular, sleeved, performs well and very cheap

k00lance
07-26-2005, 06:55 PM
Don't waste money getting antec..
There never enough for a high end system.
If you're spending 100 bucks on psu...
I defitely recommend OCZ 420ADJ power stream or 520J.
420 has max load of 520 watts and 520 one has 620 watts peak load. :D

Squid_Spit
07-26-2005, 10:45 PM
I'd like to see you back up your claim.

KoolDrew
07-27-2005, 12:51 PM
The Antec SP are really not that good. Also the TPII's fan is a joke. So I really cannot recommend any Antecs either for overclockers. I would get the Sparkle FSP550-60PLG (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-SP550PG). it is a great PSU for the money. It is a step ahead of the OCZ Powerstream 520w (It is still without a doubt a great PSU though) and is cheaper. The Sparkle is a bit loud though so you may want to consider something else such as the Seasonic S12's. Other choices are the PC P&C 510 or OCZ Powerstream 520w.

JBREAKS
07-27-2005, 12:59 PM
well for my system i ordered a
Enermax EG701AX-VE(W)SFMA 600W ATX V2.00 BTX & Xeon (2 x PCI-E)

coming tomorrow so i will tell you how good it is

[URL=http://www.overclock.co.uk/customer/product.php?productid=17914] here you can read about it

k00lance
07-27-2005, 01:24 PM
Pc p&c is indeed a good choice but too costy :D

KoolDrew
07-27-2005, 01:49 PM
Pc p&c is indeed a good choice but too costy :D

Yes, I agree. With PSU's like the Sparkle I linked to available I cannot see justifying buying the PC P&C 510. I just put it there as it still is a great PSU without a doubt.

Dave in Daytona
07-28-2005, 02:22 AM
Quality & Quiet:

Seasonic S-12 500W or 600W,
OCZ PowerStream 520W or 600W,
Antec True Power II 480W or 550W or
Antec SmartPower II 500W.

They are all very good PSU's & very quiet also. :toast: