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kakaroto
07-20-2005, 01:26 PM
CLICK HERE FOR VIEWING THE COMPLETE LIST (http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Gskill/Gskill%20list.htm)

To give people here a good view what TCCD there is available at G.SKILL, I made a clear list with detailed notes from every type of memory kits. This topic is also very usefull to see which product fits you. The prices and availability will not be put in this topic. If you have questions about the prices you can ask in the topic. For RMA questions please visit www.gskill.com/RMApolicy.html or email eurotech @ gskill.com.

This information will be listed:

Photo: illustration of the RMA
Flavor: type of kits that are available
Rated speed 1: 1st rated speed
Rated speed 2: 2th rated speed
Chip: which kind of memory IC is used
PCB: type of PCB that is used.
Warranty: Type of warranty
Market segment: for who is this kind of memory ment?

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/rating_1.gif = I don’t care, just for the memory
http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/rating_2.gif = Budget/Value users
http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/rating_3.gif = Enthousiast
http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/rating_4.gif = Power users
http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/rating_5.gif = Extreme users

Overall overclock potential: the overall overclock potential of the memory, offcourse
this depends on your G.skill product and related system

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/rating_1.gif = Bad (0 ~ 10MHz DDR)
http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/rating_2.gif = Average (10 ~ 20MHz DDR)
http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/rating_3.gif = Good (20MHz ~ 40MHz DDR)
http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/rating_4.gif = Very good (50~70MHz DDR)
http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/rating_5.gif = Insane (80 ~ 100MHz+ DDR)

Recommended Platform: the recommended platform that is best for the memory to run at maximum speed
Recommended Mainboard AMD: the recommended mainboard when using AMD platform

Reviews/testreports: testreports and reviews of the memory

NEWEST TCCD Manufacturer date: 516/519/525
CURRENT TCC5 Manufacturer date: 525
CURRENT UCCC Manufacturer date: 525

ALL G.SKILL PRODUCTS AFTER 0507/0508 BUILD DATE HAVE HEATSPREADERS.

Onepagebook
07-20-2005, 01:28 PM
This is just amazing homework.:D

AMD-me
07-20-2005, 01:31 PM
I wish Gskill would release like an ultra series of UTT. The GH is nice but it really hit or miss.

Aleman
07-20-2005, 01:34 PM
Im amazed that you honestly respond the Overclockeability :)

Word! man :).

kakaroto
07-20-2005, 01:39 PM
This is just amazing homework.:D

Thank you sir!

HARDCORECLOCKER
07-20-2005, 01:49 PM
:D This is what I call perfect information ! Very nice to see how a G.SKILL rep cares about the customers !!!

I'm very impressed........ :clap: :clap: :clap:

:toast:

AMD-me
07-20-2005, 01:57 PM
Now when will we be able to buy FC in the USA :D

guess2098
07-20-2005, 03:29 PM
this is really great........
the G.Skill they told me that the TCC5 in FC, is the best TCC5.
they hand picked it.

***F1-4400DSU2-1GB FC*** NEW

Chip: SAMSUNG TCC5 5xx
Code: FC
Flavor: 2x512MB
Rated speed 1: DDR550 2.5-4-4-8
Rated speed 2: n/a
Command Rate: 2T
Heatspreader?: Yes
Overall overclock potential: 3

Lidocaine
07-20-2005, 05:21 PM
Nice info!

I have 4x512 sticks of GSKill LE and this is BY FAR the best memory I've owned to date! :D

babyelf
07-20-2005, 09:39 PM
Now when will we be able to buy FC in the USA :D

hehe u can get it from digi4me :) www.digi4me.com

AMD-me
07-20-2005, 09:44 PM
digi4me is so damn expensive

kakaroto
07-21-2005, 02:47 AM
digi4me is so damn expensive

198$ is not very expensive I guess.

amrgb
07-21-2005, 03:07 AM
Nice info!

I have 4x512 sticks of GSKill LE and this is BY FAR the best memory I've owned to date! :D

I think exactly the same.

And it's nice to see such a detailed description of each set, with links to their tests.

petervandamned
07-21-2005, 03:51 AM
Great work m8

make this a sticky please
good info of good mem

Korpse
07-21-2005, 03:52 AM
nice thread and very useful for those looking for new ram :)

however i dont think any of your ram can match my Redline 4000 which i got for £61 :p:

AMD-me
07-21-2005, 11:22 AM
198$ is not very expensive I guess.
they seem to always charge about 20 dollors more than newegg does.

s0ulfly
07-21-2005, 01:11 PM
as someone said above realy useful i was looking for something like this

thanks

HousERaT
07-21-2005, 01:58 PM
Excellent page. Very informative and great to see Reps putting this kind of effort into their products. 5 Stars!!!! (subscribed)

MicroAMD
07-21-2005, 09:37 PM
will i able to get 260 tight timing on my DFI NF3 using F1-3200BWU2-1GB GH?

Onepagebook
07-21-2005, 09:52 PM
198$ is not very expensive I guess.


Also, The FF price is not untouchable anymore.
Here (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231014) is the price @ newegg. ;)

kakaroto
07-22-2005, 03:09 AM
will i able to get 260 tight timing on my DFI NF3 using F1-3200BWU2-1GB GH?

In Single Channel 260MHz must be achievable, although their is no 100% guarantee because factors like memorycontroller/CPU and motherboard chipset are also playing.

TheMeatFrog
07-22-2005, 03:17 AM
Great info, this is the kind of stuff I like to see. :)

shadowing
07-22-2005, 03:48 PM
That is a lot of info in there. Nice job! Very informative on most of the Gskill products. :)

high5
07-23-2005, 12:34 AM
***F1-3200PHU2-512/1GB ZX***

Chip: GSKILL OEM IC
Code: ZX
PCB: B6U808 v1.1
Flavor: 2x256MB and 2x512MB
Rated speed 1: DDR400 2-3-3-6 2.6v~2.75v
Rated speed 2: n/a
Command Rate: 1T
Heatspreader?: No
Overall overclock potential: 2
Market segment: Budget users
Recommended Platform:: AMD S-A/S754/S939/S940 INTEL S478/S755/S749

Recommended Mainboard AMD: DFI LP NF4 series, MSI K8N Neo4 series, EpoX EP-9NPA series, Abit Fatal1ty series

Reviews/testreports:
Tutti-Fruti Testreport (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52727)
these would be infineon based, right?

gsan
07-23-2005, 05:48 PM
F1-3200BWU2-1GB GH is based on utt bh5 or ch5 with brainpower pcb ? and it's double sided or single sided ?

kakaroto
07-25-2005, 09:12 AM
F1-3200BWU2-1GB GH is based on utt bh5 or ch5 with brainpower pcb ? and it's double sided or single sided ?

This memory is based on Winbond UTT -> handpicked 2-2-2 @DDR400. (BH5)
B6U808 = Brainpower PCB and Double sided 16x 32MB.

largon
07-25-2005, 10:42 AM
@GSkill:
I see some of your modules are spec'd to 1T others 2T...
This (http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=48837&view=findpost&p=436645) cought my eye on the AMD Processor Support Forum. (see the 3rd quote in 5th post) :confused:

Overall, rating a module as 1T is either false advertising or needs to be excused as blatant ignorance as all unbuffered modules are capable of a 1T CMD rate up to four banks per channel, beyond which chipset limitations come into play.

high5
07-26-2005, 12:56 AM
thats true, only instead 'chipset limitations' i'd say 'memory controller limitations'. but thats commonn sense these days.

kakaroto
08-01-2005, 03:50 AM
Technically that is correct. Command rate (CMD) is memorycontroller (chipset). Thats why you can run 2T rated gskill modules at 1T if you have a descend memorycontroller.

Tested by myself.

kakaroto
08-19-2005, 10:20 AM
News

All G.SKILL Extreme Series DDR1 with buidl 0508xxxxxx will have Heatspreaders.
The chips will be still the same. (TCCD507 and later)

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=35935&stc=1

gsan
08-22-2005, 05:14 AM
my gskill 2x512MB GH seem cant perform well on NF7-S :(
even 230 @ 3.4v cant stable.

kakaroto
08-22-2005, 12:34 PM
my gskill 2x512MB GH seem cant perform well on NF7-S :(
even 230 @ 3.4v cant stable.

Their are some common problems when running with NF2 S-A platform. It is not the Gskills. So will see that single channel mode will go much faster.

Make sure you run 1T, or if the onchip-controller don't want run low timings @230+, try 2T commandrate.

Spot
08-25-2005, 01:15 AM
Personally, i don't like heat spreaders. I actually liked GSkill rams bare where I can blow a 80mm fan on it and the warranty stickers are intact. Heat spreaders to me are more like a heat trap.

Troll
08-25-2005, 02:47 AM
FC-Review at XBitlabs: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/gskill.html

kakaroto
08-25-2005, 09:03 AM
Personally, i don't like heat spreaders. I actually liked GSkill rams bare where I can blow a 80mm fan on it and the warranty stickers are intact. Heat spreaders to me are more like a heat trap.

I agree with that! If you want overclock you must put a 80mm+ above the memory, then the spreaders will stay cool.

Sin22
08-25-2005, 07:09 PM
I agree with that! If you want overclock you must put a 80mm+ above the memory, then the spreaders will stay cool.

Well just tried the new LEs with heatspreaders and they aint all that impressive. At stock, they do their rated settings at 2.8v (275MHz 2.5-3-3-6) but gg up to 300Mhz, only could get 2.5-4-4-8 Memtest stable at 3.1v. This is comparing to my FCs (TCC5) which are now memtest stable at 2.5-3-3-6 300MHz @ 3.0v.

Got a 60mm over the sticks and even with it on there, the sticks really arnt getting hot. I truly question the usage of the heatspreaders considering the thermal pad appears to be only 3~4mm in width and hardly covers the base, (gg with what Spot mentioned above), its like a huge heat trap more than anything. Case in point, the spreaders should be getting at least slightly warm if there was decent thermal conduction gg on.

Quite dissappointed unfortunately with this pair of LEs.

Spot
08-25-2005, 08:39 PM
I agree with that! If you want overclock you must put a 80mm+ above the memory, then the spreaders will stay cool.

Glad you agree. Do you think GSkill will do away with the heatspreaders here on? It adds to an extra process and extra cost for GSkill and not only it doesn't help at all, it actually impedes performance.

windwithme
08-26-2005, 07:09 PM
i have FF&GH
very good Product :banana:

Eldonko
08-27-2005, 01:34 PM
LE's generally do not like that much voltage, you may get better results with 2.9 or less. Did the RAM scale with voltage at all past 2.8?


Well just tried the new LEs with heatspreaders and they aint all that impressive. At stock, they do their rated settings at 2.8v (275MHz 2.5-3-3-6) but gg up to 300Mhz, only could get 2.5-4-4-8 Memtest stable at 3.1v. This is comparing to my FCs (TCC5) which are now memtest stable at 2.5-3-3-6 300MHz @ 3.0v.

Got a 60mm over the sticks and even with it on there, the sticks really arnt getting hot. I truly question the usage of the heatspreaders considering the thermal pad appears to be only 3~4mm in width and hardly covers the base, (gg with what Spot mentioned above), its like a huge heat trap more than anything. Case in point, the spreaders should be getting at least slightly warm if there was decent thermal conduction gg on.

Quite dissappointed unfortunately with this pair of LEs.

cupra
08-27-2005, 03:02 PM
thanks for te info.
love the Heatspreaders, they make the rams look very sexy :toast:

gundamit
08-27-2005, 03:24 PM
thanks for te info.
love the Heatspreaders, they make the rams look very sexy :toast: Not a fan of the heatspreader. I have always preferred my memory the same way I like my women ... naked and hot. ;)

When is someone going to get some F1-3200USU2-2GBHS for testing? Need to know the type to Samsung IC used on these. If its UCCC, its may be a mediorce performer. I'm hoping GSkill has an ace up its sleeve with this 2x1gig set. :D

Eldonko
08-27-2005, 06:08 PM
Not a fan of the heatspreader. I have always preferred my memory the same way I like my women ... naked and hot. ;) LOL! :lol2: :toast2:

Vapor
08-27-2005, 08:07 PM
Not a fan of the heatspreader. I have always preferred my memory the same way I like my women ... naked and hot. ;)

When is someone going to get some F1-3200USU2-2GBHS for testing? Need to know the type to Samsung IC used on these. If its UCCC, its may be a mediorce performer. I'm hoping GSkill has an ace up its sleeve with this 2x1gig set. :DUCCC is capable of very high speeds.

dietwaterrr
08-28-2005, 11:46 AM
wow nice post

Majistic
08-28-2005, 12:34 PM
looks like some good RAM

Spot
08-28-2005, 07:33 PM
UCCC is capable of very high speeds.

Will really like to know how UCCCs perform. 2x1GB is the next thing.

Sin22
08-30-2005, 02:52 AM
LE's generally do not like that much voltage, you may get better results with 2.9 or less. Did the RAM scale with voltage at all past 2.8?

2.8v could only get it stable at rated freqs. 275MHz 2.5-3-3-6

At that voltage it could only get up to 280MHz 2.5-3-3-6, afterwhich voltage bumps to get it stable.

And to get it stable at 300MHz, it needed 3.1v & and loose timings of 2.5-4-4-8. Nothing less would do it unfortunately.

Burning in would help Im sure, but not that much.

The thing is, its one of two things, A) got crap o/cing sticks (seeing my luck these days with RAM I wouldnt be surprised) B) The heatspreaders are also limiting the o/cability by inducing a heat trap due to the small TIM pad and hardly any contact with the spreaders themselves. Its been my experience that removing heat spreaders (even decent ones with nearly full sized TIM pads) does tend to improve o/cing results significantly.

ixtapalapaquetl
10-08-2005, 02:24 PM
Does anyone have any idea what I can expect from 2x512 G.Skill FF's on a DFI nF3 Ultra-D?

Thanks!

kakaroto
10-09-2005, 02:46 AM
Does anyone have any idea what I can expect from 2x512 G.Skill FF's on a DFI nF3 Ultra-D?

Thanks!

The same as on on the nF4 series.
The only difference between those two boards are the Graphics Bus and the chipset. nF3 is also capable of doing 300Mhz HTT.

leejsmith
10-09-2005, 11:08 AM
do you have recomended settings for F1-3200DSU2-1GBLA DDR600 running on intel p4c systems.
i had problems getting past 280 with any timings.


nice nice nice :D

As a techsupporter I will help all G.skill owners as much as possible, like always!

kakaroto
10-09-2005, 11:23 AM
do you have recomended settings for F1-3200DSU2-1GBLA DDR600 running on intel p4c systems.
i had problems getting past 280 with any timings.

This is a know problem, not only with G.SKILL products.
Intel memorycontrollers onboard cannot do 300FSB 1:1. Common results are 275-280MHz 1:1.
You should lower the FSB and tighten some timings.

Sorry for the inconvience, this matter is also described in the G.skill product list.

perkam
10-09-2005, 11:55 AM
Recommended Mainboard AMD: Intel 955 chipset based mainboards.

Interesting recommendation ;)

Also, your ddr2 extreme photo link doesnt work.

But all in all, a VERY impressive list. :up:

Perkam

kakaroto
10-09-2005, 12:51 PM
Interesting recommendation ;)

Also, your ddr2 extreme photo link doesnt work.

But all in all, a VERY impressive list. :up:

Perkam

thanks fixed it.

PetNorth
10-14-2005, 02:02 PM
What about this mem?

F1-3200PHU2-2GBZX
DDR I PC3200 2-3-2-5 Dual Channel

http://www.gskill.com/f1-3200phu2-2gbzx.html

Chips used? estimated or regular OC?

thanks ;)

kakaroto
10-14-2005, 02:08 PM
What about this mem?

F1-3200PHU2-2GBZX
DDR I PC3200 2-3-2-5 Dual Channel

http://www.gskill.com/f1-3200phu2-2gbzx.html

Chips used? estimated or regular OC?

thanks ;)

It uses G.skill OEM memory and OC is around 230-250MHz TOP 2.5-3-3-7.
Overclocks pretty well for value memory.

http://www.gskill.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=246

PetNorth
10-14-2005, 02:52 PM
thanks! But... is it the same mem? mmm Gskill page I linked above says it is extreme series not value series, and timmings are 2-3-2-5 in 2x1gb dual channel kit :confused:

GSKILL TECH
10-14-2005, 05:18 PM
thanks! But... is it the same mem? mmm Gskill page I linked above says it is extreme series not value series, and timmings are 2-3-2-5 in 2x1gb dual channel kit :confused:

2GBZX is our new product. Due to my business contract, we can't tell customer about the IC of this product. Sorry.

PetNorth
10-15-2005, 02:24 AM
OK. It seems an interesting option. Looking at the timmings, I suppose they are Infineon BE-5 or something :p:
will you do some review soon? Thanks!



edit: arrg sorry, what about F1-3200BIU2-2GBHX? they are initially 2-3-2-5 too as DDR400.

I've seen listed it in some online store for about 290 € (Infineon CE-6 perhaps? :p: ) (F1-3200PHU2-2GBZX is listed cheaper, about 260 €)

nn_step
11-07-2005, 11:59 AM
most of the L's pics dont link to anything

GSKILL TECH
11-08-2005, 10:41 AM
i will update later! thx :)

Mr. Tinker
11-08-2005, 12:31 PM
This thread makes it a LOT easier to buy G.Skill.

nn_step
11-09-2005, 05:57 PM
any word on how much longer till 2-2-2-5 2Gb sets?

Tamille
11-12-2005, 12:26 PM
G.Skill F1-3200USU2-2GBHZ 2GB PC4000 with Heatspreader
I don't see this version in your details list. I just bought 2 sets and would like to know how good they are.

Tamille
11-12-2005, 12:33 PM
Here is a pic of the description on the site i bought the ram from.

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/644/4000hz8lp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

nn_step
11-12-2005, 06:29 PM
It is the second one on the list dude

nn_step
11-12-2005, 06:37 PM
Because it is a typo, it says PC4000 in the pic thus it should be
F1-4000USU2-2GB HZ.. Unless they just are lower binned chips that aren't quite as good

Tamille
11-12-2005, 11:12 PM
if i can't get an answer i will have to buy from some other company.

GSKILL TECH
11-12-2005, 11:42 PM
yeah that is a BIG MISTAKE, I will report to Taiwan G.Skill tomorrow.
there is one F1-3200USU2-2GBHS and F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ

for F1-3200USU2-2GBHS is

Brand G.SKILL
Model F1-3200USU2-2GBHS
Type 184-Pin DDR SDRAM
Capacity 2GB (2 x 1GB)
Speed DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Cas Latency 2.5
Timing 2.5-3-3-6
Voltage 2.5V-2.7V
ECC No
Registered/Unbuffered Unbuffered
Heat Spreader Yes
Features Comprehensive rigorously tested in pair at dual channel environment

Tamille
11-12-2005, 11:53 PM
yeah that is a BIG MISTAKE, I will report to Taiwan G.Skill tomorrow.
there is one F1-3200USU2-2GBHS and F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ

for F1-3200USU2-2GBHS is

Brand G.SKILL
Model F1-3200USU2-2GBHS
Type 184-Pin DDR SDRAM
Capacity 2GB (2 x 1GB)
Speed DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Cas Latency 2.5
Timing 2.5-3-3-6
Voltage 2.5V-2.7V
ECC No
Registered/Unbuffered Unbuffered
Heat Spreader Yes
Features Comprehensive rigorously tested in pair at dual channel environment
yeah thats what i thought i emailed taiwan 30 hours ago about it but no answer from them. just emailed the company that i have my 4gb of ram from to let them know of the error

nn_step
11-13-2005, 09:28 PM
HS as in SAMSUNG UCCC
PCB: B6U808 v1.1
not bad atleast they weren't trying to sell OEM chips at TCCD prices

cupra
11-14-2005, 01:30 PM
very nice thread !
10q gskill!!!

:toast:

kakaroto
11-15-2005, 01:04 PM
i will update later! thx :)

Already fixed :)

perkam
11-15-2005, 01:26 PM
I believe you have some new 2GBNT Value set on Newegg...list needs updating...:p:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231039

Plus...no oc reviews for any of the 1gb or 2gb value ram :( OEM ICs I presume ?

Perkam

kakaroto
11-15-2005, 01:35 PM
I believe you have some new 2GBNT Value set on Newegg...list needs updating...:p:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231039

Plus...no oc reviews for any of the 1gb or 2gb value ram :( OEM ICs I presume ?

Perkam

Damn, they are fast! ;) I will update asap.

Yes, NT/NS is all value products. I don't know the chips, because G.skill has their own markings on it.
I will test the 512MB (x2) value modules very soon, cause several people are interestest in it.

Tamille
11-17-2005, 06:42 AM
I read that F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ can do 223mhz 2.5-3-3-8. is that true or can they do better. i recieve 2 x 2GB kits tomorrow and i will see what i can do. I might even mix the 4 sticks around for better compatability.

Sky042
11-19-2005, 11:04 PM
I'm really dying to know what IC's are on these
F1-3200PHU2-2GBZX

So far I've got 227 2.5-3-2-5 on 2.71v

nn_step
11-20-2005, 06:09 PM
they are OEM so I have not a clue, They could be anything but I doubt that they are TCCD or BH-5

boodhir
11-28-2005, 02:19 PM
hello all!
F2-4200PHU1-2GBla Chip: :confused: serie:0510104010886
266@400 /4.4.4.4 vdim:2v

possible in 4.4.3.4 vdim 2.10v stable mentest86+ version1.65 10 passe ,screnn is coming!

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3750/40011ga.jpg :fact:

mainboard:

http://img495.imageshack.us/img495/8241/cm0tj.jpg :fact:

OneyedK
12-02-2005, 02:23 AM
Please remove F1-3200BWU2-1GB GH from the list.

I ordered a pair in the first half of august and they simply never arrived :slapass:

Grave
12-02-2005, 03:05 AM
Thanks. This list makes life easier.

GSKILL TECH
12-07-2005, 09:55 AM
i am going to make a new list within few days

nn_step
12-22-2005, 10:20 PM
So are we ever going to get DDR gig sticks with 2-2-2-5 T1 Timings?

estogasa
05-09-2006, 07:35 PM
Hi there, I just bought a new 1GBLE (with heat spreader). I would like to know the chip manufacturer date, is it 519 or 525 or what... just curious.

s/n was 05122001519 and 0512200151920

Thanks before.

onthepulse
05-30-2006, 01:47 AM
So are we ever going to get DDR gig sticks with 2-2-2-5 T1 Timings?
Most of the 1GB DDR TCCD will do 2-2-2-5 1T.

Fairly sure there will be no 2GB DDR 2-2-2-5 1T produced now it is near end-of-life with AM2.

[XC] DragonOrta
06-12-2006, 07:05 PM
Is it possible to know the chips of the DDR2 sticks? Any of them? And there are a few that you are missing on that list of the DDR2.

centy
02-25-2007, 04:42 PM
How about that new list G.S Tech?

centy
03-24-2007, 10:43 AM
G.S Tech?? ^^

GSKILL TECH
03-24-2007, 07:58 PM
sry guys i was busy on the new g.skill website. i will update it asap