Solid container has arrived.......:)

[k|ngp|n]

Solid tube came today, it is so frickin' nice.....Pictures speak louder than words:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7857526/103731169.jpg

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7857526/103731175.jpg

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7857526/103731165.jpg

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7857526/103731160.jpg

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7857526/103731155.jpg

Designed by mickey mouse/jason with my consulting of course ... :p: lol
Hold down is real nice too, but I won't be needing any hold downs soon.....hmmm I wonder what that hole is for on the inside ;)
Can't wait to use it.... Nice job on the container kid.

[twilius_basic]

Damn that is quality :toast: Looking forward to your opinions on it once you use it.


Hold down is real nice too, but I won't be needing any hold downs soon.....hmmm I wonder what that hole is for on the inside ;)

I'm guessing something *not* unrelated to this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=67893) ;)

Btw YHPM Vince, I really need some help with this X850+Win2K :(

[k|ngp|n]

Nice indeed,he almost comes near the master himself (chilly1 ofcourse :p: )
by the does he still bench?jason?haven't heard anything lately..

Do you ever look at the orbs?

[k|ngp|n]

This thing as some hellish weight to it.... :slobber:

[harleybro]

This thing as some hellish weight to it.... :slobber:
I gotta agree with you. Just got home and opened the box and wow definately awesome and heavy! Tomorrow will be di for me how soon till ya fill it w/ LN2 :slobber: Just gonna be usin the hold down for now myself. ;)

[k|ngp|n]

I gotta agree with you. Just got home and opened the box and wow definately awesome and heavy! Tomorrow will be di for me how soon till ya fill it w/ LN2 :slobber: Just gonna be usin the hold down for now myself. ;)

Have fun man....I need to sort out some vcore issues first.

[gbglassen]

looks very very nice :) Any shipping to europe? :D

[GuGaCoSa]

Wow,how thick is that base??
Very good job

[gocchin]

That is awesome!!! Work of art. Look forward to some more of your orb wrecking!! :)

PS Is Jason still making tubes for the general public? ;)

[Waus-mod]

Nice piece of art... hope to see some kingping results soon. ;)

[k|ngp|n]

Rigging up my mount... Cut out a hold down out of cutting board stock I have to match the cpu bracket on the p4c of course. The hold down it came with is nice, but not good for dothan + p4 bracket. No biggy.
3/4 inch insualtion fits perfectly.
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7857526/103781618.jpg

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7857526/103781434.jpg

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7857526/103781430.jpg

It's a shame to have to cover it up, but thats better than having ice and water all over the damn place.

[runmc]

Come on Vince - Do your Thing!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

That poor little Dothan isn't under that four pounder is it? :dammit:

[Chr0n1c]

I cannot wait to see the dothan under that.

[k|ngp|n]

I cannot wait to see the dothan under that.

me too, but it might be awhile till I get a few things figured out on this mobo.
I may have it on an fx-sd sooner.

[chilly1]

The second half is almost complete.. What is the dimention of the funny shape in the bottom??

[ilkkahy]

I would say its diameter is about 48mm and height 3mm. Container itself weighs about 2.7kg.. kingpin or harley can enlight how close did i guess from the pictures :)

Thats a damn nice container. Should be effective with dryice.. with ln2 there are cheapers ways to get better cooling (surface area placed close to core). I could make solid container someday myself but only if i get testing bench made. Solid aluminium container could be bit more sensible when thinking of producing in larger numbers. Im looking forward to see some results.

[k|ngp|n]

The second half is almost complete.. What is the dimention of the funny shape in the bottom??

You mean the circle Reggie? It's 1/2 inch round and a little less than a 1/4 deep. The shape looks a little distorted because of some water sill inside the container from wet sanding the base before I took the pics.

[ThunderStorm]

Look's like this was made from a solid tube of copper, that is a hell of a copper over there. What's the thickness of the base?

[k|ngp|n]

Look's like this was made from a solid tube of copper, that is a hell of a copper over there. What's the thickness of the base?

It was :). A 3in x 9in solid block of copper. Base thickness is 1/2 inch.

[Waus-mod]

Looks really great. i now wonder what it can handle offcourse.. but the design rocks

[ThunderStorm]

It was :). A 3in x 9in solid block of copper. Base thickness is 1/2 inch.

hmm, with that thickness, it should perform better with LN2 than Dry Ice...

[Jack]

Solid tube came today, it is so frickin' nice.....Pictures ld hmmm I wonder what that hole is for on the inside ;)
where is it for? i still have no idea...

[Apocalipsis]

Man, that is one of the best DI/LN2 pipes I ever seen.

Who makes that pipes? Jason?

Sorry, I see in your sig is done by Mickey/Jason.

[justwOo]

jason does really nice work... that tube sure is a beast
Can't wait to see it with whatever happens to be underneath it at the time

[runmc]

Does it need to be that tall?

Do you fill it all the way up?

Can you give a quick explanation? :p:

[k|ngp|n]

Does it need to be that tall?

Do you fill it all the way up?

Can you give a quick explanation? :p:

Sure Ron.....

For starters, it isnt tall at all. 3 inches shorter than chilly's, and when it is between 1/4-1/3 full, the ln2 spit comes out of the top a little, so any shorter would be bad. Every once in awhile, I got a stinger on the back of my hand when adjusting mods.

My impatience is at an all time high atm, so instead of waiting till I got the board/chip working properly again, I fired up the container just to see how it performs with a 3400mhz/ln2 760 chip and p4c800-e.

First off, I mounted a temp probe in the side of the lower part of the base drilling a small hole large enough for temp probe and taping it down:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7857526/103890497.jpg
Hows that for contact? :) This was done only using the hold down and springs with very little pressure to just hold container upright over chip with a tiny bit of downforce.

ALL testing was done with my system in windows and running 8m and 1mpi around 3300-3400mhz/1.55-1.6v for whole duration.
As far as the container goes, it takes WAAAYYYY longer to bring temps down then it did with chilly's container for obvious reasons. I found that the container needs to be about 1/3 full for temps to come down the fastest.
Once the container got to around -140c or so, it only took a small splash to go from -140c to -184c in about 10 seconds. It really holds a load good at -184c with the dothan.
Here is shot with ln2 bubling in the container less than a 1/4 full:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7857526/103890511.jpg

Here is shot with the container completely empty, and temps are still at nearly -184c lol :). Keep in mind, this is with system on and running PI at 3350mhz.
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7857526/103890503.jpg

WHen ln2 boils off and container goes dry, temps start to rise...but slowly. Maybe 1-2 degrees or so every 2-3 seconds,till loaded base temps get to around -160 to -170c then maybe .5-1 degree every 3-5 sec.

THere is still much to do, but based on some initial and very incomplete testing, I really like the performance of the container at all temps so far, especially at above -140c or so. I played around for a bit trying to maintain loaded temps within different temp ranges, and it was not hard to do at all. The extra mass for sure helps keep that temperature guage from bucking like a bronco. In fact, once the container got within the temp range I wanted to keep it, only very small pours were required. This is pretty important in a container IMO, with all the cold bugs that are around today in diff. hadware.

Prelim results look good so far, but still much more to do with it with other chips, more mhz, and more vcore. Just figured I would post some thoughts about it in the early going.

My dewar/pressure head:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7601091/100444971.jpg

Here is what it looks like when I'm benching :P .....

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7857526/103890506.jpg

[twilius_basic]

Good pics + info :clap:

[harleybro]

Very nice pics kingpin and excellant testing on the temperatures. :toast:

[gocchin]

Damn that looks awesome! I can't wait to try DI then maybe LN2 with my 760 ;)

[Waus-mod]

Man i love that pressure head.. a friend of mine can make them and its really nice to work with.. espacially when you put the pressure head above the container for refilling.

Nice work m8

[chilly1]

Adjustable 3 axis bridge.. Finishing tnight....

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33941&stc=1


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33944&stc=1


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33943&stc=1


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33942&stc=1

[runmc]

Thanks for the demo Mr Pin. :p: and for answering my questions. Your an inspiration to all of us. I'm getting the LN2 bug really fast.. :D

[[XC] moddolicous]

That looks really sweet Kingpin. Cant wait for your future dothan benchies (is 3600 3dmark possible?)

[IYP]

:drool: man thats nice....damn i want to use LN2 again.....that stuff is great....man consider using gloves when your getting the ln2 into the container....LN2 burns hurt like nothing else....thats a great pipe....how much did it cost?

[ThunderStorm]

That's very good informations. Keep the benchmarks going, we want to see results. How slow did the temperature goes down until -140?

[chilly1]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34360&stc=1


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34361&stc=1

[Waus-mod]

dont know what to say :P its beautifull chilly1

[gclg2000]

I'll have to admit, that is one awesome looking tube you got there. It def get's one of the prettier tubes award i've ever seen. NIce mount down reggie.

[harleybro]

Awesome is that headed kingpins way?

[chilly1]

Here is the threaded Rod holddown This will be going to kingpin today...


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34604&stc=1


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34605&stc=1

[Waus-mod]

Nice finish, kingpin is one lucky guy :D

[PoL]

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7857526/103890506.jpg

Man... Can't believe you manipulate LN2 with naked hands... :stick:

[Waus-mod]

Man... Can't believe you manipulate LN2 with naked hands... :stick:

Why not.. this is much better than to flip the dewar horizonatly and put in into a thermostatic can or something.. A valve is so much better and less dangerous. Ive you handle al the things good there is no problem, with youre naked hands.

[PoL]

Why not.. this is much better than to flip the dewar horizonatly and put in into a thermostatic can or something.. A valve is so much better and less dangerous. Ive you handle al the things good there is no problem, with youre naked hands.

I've seen hands completely burned even wearing gloves...
Don't wanna think what would happen with nothing over them...

[Waus-mod]

Aaah well. if youre carefull and dont do stupid things or making mistakes youre just fine.

[PoL]

Aaah well. if youre carefull and dont do stupid things or making mistakes youre just fine.

Yea, but just imagine you're very careful, but suddenly, you slip.. :S :S

[alexio]

You just need one hand to hold the mouse when you are benching :fact:

[charlie]

Actually if a few drops hit your hands they just go POOOF in like 1/1000th of a second as it hits your skin, you almost don't feel it!

I spilled probably 2 oz. up in the air that hit my chest with a t-shirt on, scared the HELL out of me!!! I touched the shirt and it was "cool" but my skin underneath was untouched... LN2 is weird

C

[PoL]

Look at this:

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/safety/graphics/hand_burnt_by_LN2.jpg

Even wearing gloves... :eek:

Link (http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/safety/LN2accident.html)

[alexio]

If you read carefully you can see that it was BECAUSE he was wearing gloves. You just need to be carefull and you'll be fine.

[k|ngp|n]

Look at this:

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/safety/graphics/hand_burnt_by_LN2.jpg

Even wearing gloves... :eek:

Link (http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/safety/LN2accident.html)


GLoves probably did that to him......
.....it is a fact that it is safer to NOT WEAR CLOTHING(gloves, long sleeve shirts). IF the ln2 gets on clothing your are wearing, IT WILL BURN YOU!
I would feel safer benching barefoot, then with socks and sneakers on. IF it spills onto your sock, YOU WILL GET BURNED! If it spill onto your bare foot, it rolls and boils off, no pain. The only time it ever "hurts" is when I am adjusting mods and container spits a drop onto the back of my hand and it stays there for extended period of time without me knowing right away.....it will sting you bad....I have marks on my hands and arms to prove it. I have spilled it onto my ankle area(socks) and all I can say is if you are not quick getting those socks and shoes off, your getting stung hard :)

ln2 vaporizes or boils off harmlessley when it touches the skin in small ammounts....usually you dont feel a thing. I have gone through 500 litres at least in the last two months for numerous hours of benching......I KNOW WTF I AM DOING NOW.

I speak from alot of learned experience with it. I always try to wear a short-sleeved shirt without gloves.
Misinformation will get you in trouble every time people. Do your own homework. There is alot of safety info out there on LN2.

[datura3]

GLoves probably did that to him......
.....it is a fact that it is safer to NOT WEAR CLOTHING(gloves, long sleeve shirts). IF the ln2 gets on clothing your are wearing, IT WILL BURN YOU!
I would feel safer benching barefoot, then with socks and sneakers on. IF it spills onto your sock, YOU WILL GET BURNED! If it spill onto your bare foot, it rolls and boils off, no pain. The only time it ever "hurts" is when I am adjusting mods and container spits a drop onto the back of my hand and it stays there for extended period of time without me knowing right away.....it will sting you bad....I have marks on my hands and arms to prove it. I have spilled it onto my ankle area(socks) and all I can say is if you are not quick getting those socks and shoes off, your getting stung hard :)

ln2 vaporizes or boils off harmlessley when it touches the skin in small ammounts....usually you dont feel a thing. I have gone through 500 litres at least in the last two months for numerous hours of benching......I KNOW WTF I AM DOING NOW.

I speak from alot of learned experience with it. I always try to wear a short-sleeved shirt without gloves.
Misinformation will get you in trouble every time people. Do your own homework. There is alot of safety info out there on LN2.

I can back that up. I work with LN2 for my job about 3-4 times a weeks. Wearing clothing is dangerous. If I had it my way I would just work naked, but my boss won't have it. You can actually dip your whole hand in it for a sec and not get burned if your not wearing gloves. I pick tubes out of LN2. I used to do it with long metal tweezers and gloves. Now I just stick my hand in there and grab them and place them on the rack- faster, and less chance of injury. Strange, but that is just the way it is.

[Jort]

i spoiled ln² too on my hand once and idd i felded nothing.
i asked air liquide and they say don't wear gloves or weare cryogenic(ot what the word is) gloves and tape them tight.

[Holst]

When I was using LN2 at university we were also instructed not to wear gloves in SOME situations... but not all.

[Jasonhk]

Actually if a few drops hit your hands they just go POOOF in like 1/1000th of a second as it hits your skin, you almost don't feel it!

I spilled probably 2 oz. up in the air that hit my chest with a t-shirt on, scared the HELL out of me!!! I touched the shirt and it was "cool" but my skin underneath was untouched... LN2 is weird

C

yes got the same, it doesnt even burn you when it hits you..weird all right ;)

[IYP]

thats odd...ive gotta remember that...

[LukeK]

when u wear clothing or gloves the LN2 is absorbed through the layers and onto your skin and then has nowhere to go, so the pressure just builds because it cant bleed off into the atmosphere and the lingering nitrogen is what gives u that good ol' burn. ive seen someone sit on a puddle of LN2 (it was in the recess of a chair) lets just say life sucked for a couple months for this guy.

[JacobHansen]

I dont use gloves for ln2 either. It makes it alot more difficult to reach the little components at the mb or the gfx with gloves then without.

Ive done my own homework with dryice and ln2.. Its not for kids !!!

[[krook]]

I never wear gloves or longsleeve when handling Ln2, its not a good combo.