My Lightning Raping An Evo 8

[The Mofo]

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[charlie]

hehehehe... did he blow the light, or did he have a handicap (bracket racing)

C

[fatfreepork]

if it wasn't a handicap race, then that evo driver sucks

[Poki]

Your lightning looks like it hooks up pretty well, what's your 60' time?
Woulda been nice to see EVO do a 5-6k launch though.... Those buggers can get it outta the hole.

[[XC] leviathan18]

i think the evo driver sux

[trance565]

u running radials? cuz ive never seen a litning at our track hook the ground like that

[sluflyer06]

nice run....though by the way the evo was building speed I'd say if he woulda launched...then he'd be the one doing the raping....

very nice run for your truck though...very respectable.

[bypolar]

That is what happens when squirrels race a horse.

[Below Ambient]

looks liek the evo fell asleep... nice truck though.... hooks up nice... we have identical 60ft :)

[The Mofo]

Welp, to tell the story.. I was originally supposed to be running a yellow Z06 that run, but the EVO guy was talking smack about running down my truck. He claimed he had a list of mods and he is an 11 second car.So, i asked him if he wanted to go for some cash, $250 to be exact. He got a couple of his buddies together and scrounged up the money. Like all EVO and STI owners, they think they have an advantage with AWD and Radial tires. Ill be the first person to defunk their myth. You cant beat a vehicle with full blown slicks, period, AWD or not. Even on the street with my traction bars and sticky drag radials, you cant get me out of the hole. Lightnings are called Lightnings for a reason and you have to run them down.

At any rate, my 12.24 vs his 13.68, would pretty much say, he didnt have a chance. The angle of the video makes it look like he was catching up.. BTW, i lifted at the end because i would get kicked out for running faster then an 11.99.. The truck runs 11.50s all day long without N20. :toast:

I avg 1.54 60's... track was an icerink that day. BTW, it was 58F out that morning with tons of track prep and you can still see my trucking having a hard time with traction.

[The Mofo]

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[ZX7891]

That Z06 would have raped you i'd bet. Thats the 390HP cobra engine in that IIRC?

[charlie]

That Z06 would have raped you i'd bet. Thats the 390HP cobra engine in that IIRC?

No, if it's stock, it can't run better than 12.24... probably more like 13.70's...

C

[Rocket]

At any rate, my 12.24 vs his 13.68, would pretty much say, he didnt have a chance. The angle of the video makes it look like he was catching up.. BTW, i lifted at the end because i would get kicked out for running faster then an 11.99.. The truck runs 11.50s all day long without N20. :toast:


Hehehe...I watched the video first and saw your times.
put a hurtin on new age, with old school...lol

btw: I have a 1974 Plymouth-440cid that run`s 12.8 on street tires and full exhaust.

Too many people watch the fast and furious with belief...or just didnt watch it close enough...lol

[SewerSide]

What sort of mod's have you done on the Truck? its damn fast o_o!

[[XC] leviathan18]

of both the ligthing and evo where at stock the evo is a lot faster than the lighting is lighter it has more acceleration and always depends which evo is evo VIII are nice evo VIII mr fq 400 are better xD

[sluflyer06]

the fact the the evo ran a 13.6 without launching goes to show that it would indeed easily run 12s if driven properly...for an evo to runs 12s is pretty simple Exahust, DP, Chip, maybe intake....don't get me wrong your lightning is in all respects prolly much faster than that EVO though...I gotta love your first two pics...every domestic drivers favorite activity.

[twilius_basic]

The Mofo, that was SWEET :cool:
Very few ppl I've met love the Lightning like I do, or heck even know much about them. I mean honestly, it's a freakin truck racing a car :D Both of my cousins, rich bastards, got '02 Lightnings when they first came out. I have had the pleasure of being taken for a ride in them, and it was one of the coolest things I've ever done. Hell, my cousins' trucks are almost stock and they're fast as f00k.

Btw great job on keeping it stuck to the tarmac :)

I think it's just so cool to find someone else who loves (and even races) the Lightnings :banana: :toast:

[shmaa]

nice kill mofo

[ferrari_freak]

Damn sweet! :toast:

Usama aka Ferrari Freak

[Crankster]

A scalp for XS!
:toast: to themofo :toast:

[sandman]

The Mofo, I love the badge on your grill. ;)

[Poki]

LOL I didn't catch the emblem the first time.... That is indeed cool.

[The Mofo]

Thanks for all the props. People always find ways to defend automobiles. Fact is a fact, it IS a TRUCK raping, molesting, straight robbing people of pride. Ive had a lot of different cars and built a variety of 10 second mustangs and whatnot, but the Lightning has been my most favorite vehicle to mod.

The only thing thats beaten me at the track was a 1964 chevelle. Everything else i line up gets blasted. 12.24 for a truck is very fast, esp one that can make a 600 mile drive to the track.


I worked really hard to dial in the suspension. Getting the truck to stick hasnt been easy. Between modding computers and trucks, my bank account runs on empty, lol.

Ive seen a handful of stock lightnings killing stock Evos and STIs... I would hope a car with a power to weight ratio lower than a lightning could run a 13.. Otherwise, i would be one pissed off person spending $32K+ for a import stuck in the 14s. Theres an old saying when racing that the kids still dont understand... " Run whatcha brung "

[The Mofo]

That Z06 would have raped you i'd bet. Thats the 390HP cobra engine in that IIRC?


I do the raping when it comes to Z06's... Not one Z06 got to the 12s that day.

And no, the engine inside of the Lightning is what the Cobra uses, but in smaller discplacement.. 5.4, 331 CUI Supercharged 2V... Cobra uses the 4.6 DOHC supercharged motor at 281 CUI.. Until the Shelby GT500 comes out, they took the Lightning engine from 2006, cancelled the lightning and stuck the 5.4 twin screw supercharged motor and placed it into the car. To tone the power down, they placed a dummy screw into the compressor case to keep the boost power down. When people start playing with the new cobra, just with a blower change, they will see over 650 to the wheels. Thats just the beginning. I dont know if illl buy one or not. Im still on the fence with Ford cancelling the truck and raping it of its power plant just to put Shelby on the back of the car which isnt even deserved. He had NOTHING to do with that car, period... Marketing at its best i tell ya.

[The Mofo]

of both the ligthing and evo where at stock the evo is a lot faster than the lighting is lighter it has more acceleration and always depends which evo is evo VIII are nice evo VIII mr fq 400 are better xD

The Lightning is 4700 pounds, hardly lighter than an evo. What would you rather have....?

5.4 Litre V8 with a Roots Blower making 675 pounds of torque or a little 4 banger with a turbo...? Torque is what moved you.. HP gives you speed.. Combine the two and youre loooking at my truck on video. EVOs stock cant take a stock lightning.. Theres just to much torque to deal with.. Your cost to mod an evo compared to a lightning is even higher. a Chip, Pulley and Filter nets you high to mid 12's for under $1000.

[The Mofo]

The Mofo, that was SWEET :cool:
Very few ppl I've met love the Lightning like I do, or heck even know much about them. I mean honestly, it's a freakin truck racing a car :D Both of my cousins, rich bastards, got '02 Lightnings when they first came out. I have had the pleasure of being taken for a ride in them, and it was one of the coolest things I've ever done. Hell, my cousins' trucks are almost stock and they're fast as f00k.

Btw great job on keeping it stuck to the tarmac :)

I think it's just so cool to find someone else who loves (and even races) the Lightnings :banana: :toast:

Thanks a lot bro. A lot of people dont know much about these truck, esp the Dodge owners, Hemi or SRT.. I run the Lightning club in Socal and we have over 100 trucks, which 80% of them participate at our track events. We constantly beat on everything at the track, its a lot of fun. We might even be headed to Ennis TX this yr for a race. :toast:

[twilius_basic]

Thanks a lot bro. A lot of people dont know much about these truck, esp the Dodge owners, Hemi or SRT.. I run the Lightning club in Socal and we have over 100 trucks, which 80% of them participate at our track events. We constantly beat on everything at the track, its a lot of fun. We might even be headed to Ennis TX this yr for a race. :toast:

Lemme know if you come to TX. Ennis is pretty much an all-day drive from where I live, but I'd love to go see something like that :toast: I'm sure I could work something out...

[Cossey]

The Lightning is 4700 pounds, hardly lighter than an evo. What would you rather have....?

5.4 Litre V8 with a Roots Blower making 675 pounds of torque or a little 4 banger with a turbo...? Torque is what moved you.. HP gives you speed.. Combine the two and youre loooking at my truck on video. EVOs stock cant take a stock lightning.. Theres just to much torque to deal with.. Your cost to mod an evo compared to a lightning is even higher. a Chip, Pulley and Filter nets you high to mid 12's for under $1000.
the evo isnt a cheap car and if you want one of the uk spec fq series (fq is a inside joke for f*cking quick) they are even more. the top of the range 400 is $90k and they are all sold out. so they arent good value for a strip car but they excel as rally cars which is what they were designed for. point to point the evo is one of the most effective cars in the world, it also is quite capable of trully asonishing times on non tarmac surfaces, ive seen a stock fq400 on rally tyres do a 0-60 in 3.8s on loose grave.

muscle cars and trucks are very good at 1/4 miles but even corvettes are fairly useless in real world or race track style situations. l

[The Mofo]

the evo isnt a cheap car and if you want one of the uk spec fq series (fq is a inside joke for f*cking quick) they are even more. the top of the range 400 is $90k and they are all sold out. so they arent good value for a strip car but they excel as rally cars which is what they were designed for. point to point the evo is one of the most effective cars in the world, it also is quite capable of trully asonishing times on non tarmac surfaces, ive seen a stock fq400 on rally tyres do a 0-60 in 3.8s on loose grave.

muscle cars and trucks are very good at 1/4 miles but even corvettes are fairly useless in real world or race track style situations. l

When it comes to Rally cars, the #1 rally car in the world which no one still hasnt been able to touch is the Focus RS and Focus RS Cosworth. Though those two are now discontinued, the beating tradition continues with the Euro Spec Focus ST and ST Cosworth. The new cosworth will be laying down 425 HP again, being awd. I was literally 1 day away from importing one last year before California pulled a bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: move and required that i had to remove the rear fenders which are molded into the rear quarter panel.. They also werent to hip on the turbo'd motor. You can get the car anywhere in the U.S but california.

However, one thing i dont understand is, why get a rally car when you cant even use it, at least around here.

[Rippthrough]

The Lightning is 4700 pounds, hardly lighter than an evo. What would you rather have....?

5.4 Litre V8 with a Roots Blower making 675 pounds of torque or a little 4 banger with a turbo...? Torque is what moved you.. HP gives you speed.. Combine the two and youre loooking at my truck on video. EVOs stock cant take a stock lightning.. Theres just to much torque to deal with.. Your cost to mod an evo compared to a lightning is even higher. a Chip, Pulley and Filter nets you high to mid 12's for under $1000.



torque is what moves you and HP is what gives you speed?!

Someone's been listening to explanations down at the pub again haven't they? :stick:

AS for the Evo, even the 330bhp version, on bog-standard road legal tyres, can hit 100mph in 10.7s, and they do a 400bhp version now.

I'd have the Evo thanks, it can actually go round corners without jacking it up and turning it round.

[Cossey]

focus rs is fwd has 200bhp as is much slower than the evo/impreza and suffers from trully awful torque steer. there has never been an rs cosworth focus (yet), the new cosworht has just been put on indefinate hold by ford europe. also it is going to have alot less than 425bhp (nearer 300-350) the last rs cosworth was the escort and sierra in the early 90s.

rally cars are fast on almost any road so they make good alround performance vehicles. good torque at reasonable revs, massive traction, strong brakes etc make them very easy to drive fast on both large fast open roads and tight twisty ones. also if your just driving around in traffic with the turbo not spooled up they have reasonable fuel comsumption.

[Levish]

nice kill, and a 1.56 60' is awesome for any street car (dot slicks btw?), to get that on a pickup is wild.

On another note, 13.86 on a supposedly "heavily modded" Evo makes me all sad inside.

[amd4me]

wow man that is a really really nice truck.
Those evo's are freakin nice.
But on the drag strip they have no chance.

[CaTalyst.X]

The EVOs - ESPECIALLY the 400BHP version suffer from pretty horrible turbo lag. Which is why there acceleration sucks. The lightning is a 331CI w/ an engine driven supercharger, which is why it doesnt suffer from any lag. Since turbos are powered by the exhaust, they lag to a certain point on all engines, but its really prevelent on smaller engines, i.e. the evo. Nice truck :)

-CaT

[EvlUndrWareNome]

haha awesome!

Very nice truck you have there. I love to see American v-8 power doing its thing. Also is it street driven? Anything else you can do to get to the high 10's ? :slobber:

[The Mofo]

torque is what moves you and HP is what gives you speed?!

Someone's been listening to explanations down at the pub again haven't they? :stick:

AS for the Evo, even the 330bhp version, on bog-standard road legal tyres, can hit 100mph in 10.7s, and they do a 400bhp version now.

I'd have the Evo thanks, it can actually go round corners without jacking it up and turning it round.


100 MPH in 10.7 seconds? :rofl: :ROTF: Umm, 13.68 seconds was what my truck was running stock and i know for a fact, no stock evo at a track out here can beat a stock lightning... Do you realize the 1/4 time of that car if it could do a 0-100 in 10.7 seconds? Youre spitting published estimated results and your giving hell for using tq vs hp arument, lol, bench racer. If that car weighed in at 3300 pounds, which it does and 330hp, that is only good for a 13.3 1/4 and thats with one hell of a launch and driver.


Torque moves you, YES.. HP gives you speed... care to debunk this myth? My truck is proof... That run was with a measily 489hp and 622#s of torque to the wheels.. When i crank up the boost on the Kenne Bell to 19 PSI, HP climbs to 599HP and 681#'s of torque. Adding a 50 shot on top of that gives me 661 hp and 803#'s of torque... I got one 10 second run in at 10.89 @ 127 MPH with a shoddy ass 1.81 60 because i got no traction. I went back to the pits to put on the 30" slicks and the officials pulled my run card for no rollbar... Ill never get my low 10 unless i chop my truck, so ive accepted what its capable of.

I have a 331 CUI engine, bored .020 over making it a 333CUI.. Custom Forged Pistons i dont care to list but they are heat treated and coated as well. Crower Billet H-Beams Rods, Crower Custom Ground Cams, 5 Angle Valve Job with bronze guides and all new oversized stainless valves, dual springs and custom valvetrain work. The heads are massaged and flow 204CFM more than stock. I than built a custom nitrous injection spray bar across the intercooler core inside the lower plenum.. It gives a much more harder and violent power output than spraying it through the throttle body, to the blower, to the lower intake, through the intercooler. I have used 3 blowers... First is a stock Eaton, ported and polished, a Kenne Bell and now a Whipple. I see over 84 hp more with the Whipple than i do with the KB and with 51F degree cooler aircharge.

EVOs are already on the threshold for power. 19 PSI stock.. How long do you think your motor is going to stay together at 25 psi? Not long...

And in closing, their are many lightnings out there that had suspension mods from Roush and Hotchkis. You would be surprised how well balanced these trucks are and how they gobble up a lot of cars on the road courses. Ive got video of this as well..

Im glad you like your EVO but for what they cost, i would spend a little extra and take home the M3. There's no replacement for displacement.. 331 CUI with a Roots Supercharger makes insane torque.. Torque MOVES you, HP keeps you moving by providing speed. When you get a chance to wind that EVO up, bring it over here. Ill arrange a drag race... After that, we can take both on the road course. Ill i have to do is change the tires and put the rod for the panhard bar on and im ready. :slapass:

[The Mofo]

haha awesome!

Very nice truck you have there. I love to see American v-8 power doing its thing. Also is it street driven? Anything else you can do to get to the high 10's ? :slobber:

Yea, its a 600hp daily driver and even passes CA smog :toast:

[The Mofo]

nice kill, and a 1.56 60' is awesome for any street car (dot slicks btw?), to get that on a pickup is wild.

On another note, 13.86 on a supposedly "heavily modded" Evo makes me all sad inside.

28X10X16 inch Hoosier Slicks.. These are only good for about low 12's on a lightning or 475hp.. Once you push that envelope, you have to move to the 30X12X16s which are DOT M&H cheaters. Pretty sticky tire but they hook like mofos.

The evo that ran the 13.86 also had a 70hp zex dry shot... I saw it hooked up and he purged after the burnout.. I think the kid may have put the wrong size jet in there, lol.

Keep in mind, this track has an elevation of 1600 ft.

[Rippthrough]

torque moves you my arse, torque AT THE WHEELS moves you, and it IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO BHP, not engine torque. We've discussed this before.

As for laughing at the Evo's 0-100 time, strange then, that it has just recorded that time on some of the most accurate in-car timing gear in the world.
I also find it quite funny that you are moaning about not being able to get to low 10's because of traction problems, hmmm, wonder why the Evo is quicker then...seeing as it blasts past 30 in under 1.6s.



And as for bringing over an Evo, I don't personally have one, what I do have is a Peugeot T16 rally-spec car, perhaps you'd like to try a gravel cicuit?




:slap:

[Levish]

EVOs are already on the threshold for power. 19 PSI stock.. How long do you think your motor is going to stay together at 25 psi? Not long...

Hopefully a (healthy) displacement increase will come in the next EVO, but it's a very well engineered engine.

[[XC] leviathan18]

torque moves you my arse, torque AT THE WHEELS moves you, and it IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO BHP, not engine torque. We've discussed this before.

As for laughing at the Evo's 0-100 time, strange then, that it has just recorded that time on some of the most accurate in-car timing gear in the world.
I also find it quite funny that you are moaning about not being able to get to low 10's because of traction problems, hmmm, wonder why the Evo is quicker then...seeing as it blasts past 30 in under 1.6s.



And as for bringing over an Evo, I don't personally have one, what I do have is a Peugeot T16 rally-spec car, perhaps you'd like to try a gravel cicuit?




:slap:


im with you torque to the wheels bhp is what moves you i dont know for certaing which one is the best in quarter of mille but i know you wont see light if you put both in a track any one saw the video of the evo vs the subaru.

and for turbo lag that is why there is 2 turbos one small for low revs and one big for high revs you can also super charge the motor if you want and use NOS.... the evo 4 my is the best overall car is fast and you can handle it...


now is time to see the new evo IX uk citizens lucky to have always the evo first than the rest of the world

[mr-white]

scoobys and evos aren't fast in a straight line because they are rally cars and designed for handling not speed. They are also 4wd which means on a cold day they can loose up to 28% power due to their transmission.

MW

[i found nemo]

well....don't make me start up my corolla VVVVVVVVVVROOOOMMMM i'm x-treme like that, i took the air box off just to make more noise

[shmaa]

Hopefully a (healthy) displacement increase will come in the next EVO, but it's a very well engineered engine.

unless they change rally rules.. they can't... 2.0L engine is required for rally racing.

[The Mofo]

unless they change rally rules.. they can't... 2.0L engine is required for rally racing.

I thought they had multiple classes based on displacement though? The Focus RS and ST's are 2.3L...

Whats the storyh on Mitsu these days anyhow? I heard a rumor that whomever was financing them, pulled the plug? So whats their future here in the US? I dont see many evo's on the road but i see many WRXs and STIs out here.

[jayjaya29]

I thought they had multiple classes based on displacement though? The Focus RS and ST's are 2.3L...

Whats the storyh on Mitsu these days anyhow? I heard a rumor that whomever was financing them, pulled the plug? So whats their future here in the US? I dont see many evo's on the road but i see many WRXs and STIs out here.

No, the class that Mitsu runs their cars in are bounded by the 2.0L engine rule. The STI has 2.0L+, I think 2.3L IIRC. I think the Evo is a great car for the money, and the engine makes considerable power for a 2L 4-banger.

As for your attitude, lay off dude, you smoked an Evo owner that doesn't know his ass from his head, no reason to preach that all EVO/STI owners are like that. Your truck is far superior to the Evo you raced, and you sure did prove that. No reason to get jacked up about it.

As for the future of Mitsubishi as a company, they will stay in buisness for a long time. They don't just make cars ya know....They also make televisions and other products. So for them going out of buisness anytime soon is HIGHLY unlikely. Yes, their product line is a bit lackluster and they aren't selling well, but that doesn't mean they are going out of buisness.

I see as many, actually more Evo's on the road then I do STI's.

As for the weight comment you said in a previous post, you are WAY off. A stock Evo8 weighs 3263 lbs (source: http://www.exoticcarsite.com/pages/mitsubishi_evo8.htm). If we do a little math we can see that your Lightning is roughly 1500lbs heavier then the Evo. Just a little bit heavier, what do you drink in the morning?

Laying down the line here, your Lightning is a very respectable, highly modified truck that runs impressive times on the strip, but for you to bash the Evo just becuase you beat a kid that doesn't know anything doesn't give you the right to bash every Evo owner in the world. The Evo is a respectable car on the track but not on the strip.

[CaTalyst.X]

I dont think he was much bashing the evo until people started to get technical with him about how the evo would have won if it had a decent driver etc. And he was just defending his kill ;) Evos ARE NOT good on the strip, period, theres just really no way you can argue with that, it doesnt have enough raw BHP to overcome the power loss from the 4WD, and the lag from the turbo contributes too. I dont know THAT much about evo's, but unless they have sequential twin turbo's, they are going to experience some pretty bad lag, i watched a special on the speed channel, a freakin festiva beat this guy down the runway until the turbo kicked in. So lets see, lag from turbo + short race = :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty times :D and btw..how can you say torque at the wheels moves you and not at the engine. Thats like saying HP at the wheels moves you, and not at the engine. Well ill be damned if you dont need an engine to create that torque and horsepower in the first place. Id like to know where your torque is coming from ;) Nice lightning :-P

-CaT

[Rippthrough]

Torque at the engine means absolutely nothing unless RPM, and hence gearing potential, is taken into account, which is what the BHP figure is.

[mr-white]

i thought it was 300bhp limit on rally cars

where i live scoobys are really common but there arent many evos. personally im a jap fan, anyone can just drop a raw V8 lump into a car and make it go but making it go round corners now thats engineering. bigger BHP evos have dead spots low down in the revs because of the turbo size required. i saw an experiment where an FQ400 pulled away in 3rd against a bog standard family car and because the evo couldnt get the revs high quick enough for the turbo to kick in the car poodled along and got beat.

MW

[shmaa]

I thought they had multiple classes based on displacement though? The Focus RS and ST's are 2.3L...

Whats the storyh on Mitsu these days anyhow? I heard a rumor that whomever was financing them, pulled the plug? So whats their future here in the US? I dont see many evo's on the road but i see many WRXs and STIs out here.

meh.. maybe so? But the EVO is still a 2.0L because of some rule in rally.


i thought it was 300bhp limit on rally cars

where i live scoobys are really common but there arent many evos. personally im a jap fan, anyone can just drop a raw V8 lump into a car and make it go but making it go round corners now thats engineering. bigger BHP evos have dead spots low down in the revs because of the turbo size required. i saw an experiment where an FQ400 pulled away in 3rd against a bog standard family car and because the evo couldnt get the revs high quick enough for the turbo to kick in the car poodled along and got beat.

MW

That episode of Top Gear was great :D Same episode that it smoked a lamborghini murcielago with a professional driver around the twisties.. good fun :p:

[jayjaya29]

Ahh you guys all rely on that one clip when the EVO gets beat by that econbox family car. You guys forget one thing. That was an EVO FQ400, the FQ400 makes outrageous horsepower on the top end, it has a massive turbo, the stock EVO or even the EVO MR don't have that big of a turbo, hence a lot less turbo lag. If you put that same econobox family car up against a stock EVO the EVO would win becuase it has a much smaller turbo.

[mdzcpa]

Nice kill Mofo! That's one nicely built Lightning ! :toast:

One comment regarding turbo lag, though. Its easy enough spool up the turbo at the light waiting for the green. Although it is not as effective when the motor is not under real load (free revving), you can still reduce lag time quite a bit with a simple load up at the staging light.

I'm not into road race or rally, I like to live life one 1/4 mile at a time. That's just my personal taste in automobile fun. So I always enjoy those drag strip vids:D

BTW, how about a 4400lb four door sedan that runs in the 11's:

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So far she's good for 11.88s @ 117.23 without the juice, and 11.29s @ 121.22 with a simple 100hp shot. LOL...I love hammering this thing at the track then driving home with the cruise control, AC blasting, and may favorite CD playing:D

American iron on the drag strip. Gotta luv it!

[Rippthrough]

That's a suspiciously small top pulley there.....:)

[calcal]

how many miles you get a gallon? that truck is a beast

[mr-white]

the FQ400 also beat a farrari 360 modena, 0-60 in 3.5s :eek:

MW

[The Mofo]

No, the class that Mitsu runs their cars in are bounded by the 2.0L engine rule. The STI has 2.0L+, I think 2.3L IIRC. I think the Evo is a great car for the money, and the engine makes considerable power for a 2L 4-banger.

As for your attitude, lay off dude, you smoked an Evo owner that doesn't know his ass from his head, no reason to preach that all EVO/STI owners are like that. Your truck is far superior to the Evo you raced, and you sure did prove that. No reason to get jacked up about it.

As for the future of Mitsubishi as a company, they will stay in buisness for a long time. They don't just make cars ya know....They also make televisions and other products. So for them going out of buisness anytime soon is HIGHLY unlikely. Yes, their product line is a bit lackluster and they aren't selling well, but that doesn't mean they are going out of buisness.

I see as many, actually more Evo's on the road then I do STI's.

As for the weight comment you said in a previous post, you are WAY off. A stock Evo8 weighs 3263 lbs (source: http://www.exoticcarsite.com/pages/mitsubishi_evo8.htm). If we do a little math we can see that your Lightning is roughly 1500lbs heavier then the Evo. Just a little bit heavier, what do you drink in the morning?

Laying down the line here, your Lightning is a very respectable, highly modified truck that runs impressive times on the strip, but for you to bash the Evo just becuase you beat a kid that doesn't know anything doesn't give you the right to bash every Evo owner in the world. The Evo is a respectable car on the track but not on the strip.


As one person explained, im only defending my kill per that video, but their are many more EVOs that fall pray to my fit fat heavy truck. Ive seen multiple weights listed for an EVO, however, it still doesnt have enough power per weight ratio to do any damage at a drag strip. Ive seen 3 EVOs bite the dust running 23+ PSI at the track. They generally scatter about the 1/8 mile mark. Perhaps the people making chips or flashing the ECUs dont realize the importance of AF below 12.0 on a forced inducted car, who knows...

Remember, Lightnings just dont go straight, their are alot of them that corner carve as well :) So never under estimate. :stick:

The EVO is a well rounded track car. I dont follow much on rally. What i would like to see is a rally track opened around here so these guys can enjoy the car as it was intended to be built for.

[The Mofo]

Nice kill Mofo! That's one nicely built Lightning ! :toast:

One comment regarding turbo lag, though. Its easy enough spool up the turbo at the light waiting for the green. Although it is not as effective when the motor is not under real load (free revving), you can still reduce lag time quite a bit with a simple load up at the staging light.

I'm not into road race or rally, I like to live life one 1/4 mile at a time. That's just my personal taste in automobile fun. So I always enjoy those drag strip vids:D

BTW, how about a 4400lb four door sedan that runs in the 11's:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/638000-638999/638955_1.jpg



http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/638000-638999/638955_2.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/638000-638999/638955_13.jpg

So far she's good for 11.88s @ 117.23 without the juice, and 11.29s @ 121.22 with a simple 100hp shot. LOL...I love hammering this thing at the track then driving home with the cruise control, AC blasting, and may favorite CD playing:D

American iron on the drag strip. Gotta luv it!

Love the Maurader bro :toast: Nice times for a heavy beast! I take it your Romeo is fully built to handle that boost and juice?

[The Mofo]

the FQ400 also beat a farrari 360 modena, 0-60 in 3.5s :eek:

MW

Back in Nov or Dec issue of motor trend or R/T, their was a Lambo poised against a Focus RS.. Focus killed it.

Lately Ferrari has been getting hammered by just about everyone..

[The Mofo]

how many miles you get a gallon? that truck is a beast

Street program with 12 psi i get 15 MPG.. Street program with 16 PSI i get 13 MPG.. If i leaned it out to 11.6 on the street, it would go a little higher.. I tuned my truck conservatively for the street, About 10.9 - 11.3 AFR. On the strip, i lean it out to 12.4 with 103 Octane 16 PSI. 12.3 AFR with 109 Octane and 19 PSI.

My truck likes to run lean unlike many Lightnings out there.

[mr-white]

american muscle cars always do well when ive been at santa pod. seen a few 1000bhp skylines do sub 10s there too :eek:

MW

[mdzcpa]

Love the Maurader bro :toast: Nice times for a heavy beast! I take it your Romeo is fully built to handle that boost and juice?

Yes sir! Nothing fancy, just a better crank, rods, and pistons. Stock compression, heads, and cams though.

BTW, I didn't mean to hi jack your thread with pics...I just get enthusiastic when I see threads on American muscle:) I'm particularly fond of those lightnings! They always give everyone hell at the track:D

[hollywood]

Thanks for all the props. People always find ways to defend automobiles. Fact is a fact, it IS a TRUCK raping, molesting, straight robbing people of pride. Ive had a lot of different cars and built a variety of 10 second mustangs and whatnot, but the Lightning has been my most favorite vehicle to mod.

The only thing thats beaten me at the track was a 1964 chevelle. Everything else i line up gets blasted. 12.24 for a truck is very fast, esp one that can make a 600 mile drive to the track.


I worked really hard to dial in the suspension. Getting the truck to stick hasnt been easy. Between modding computers and trucks, my bank account runs on empty, lol.

Ive seen a handful of stock lightnings killing stock Evos and STIs... I would hope a car with a power to weight ratio lower than a lightning could run a 13.. Otherwise, i would be one pissed off person spending $32K+ for a import stuck in the 14s. Theres an old saying when racing that the kids still dont understand... " Run whatcha brung "

The shame of it is that people think it's ok to drag Lancers, Neons, Scoobies, etc.

Lancers and Imprezzas are intended for road racing and / or rally racing. If a young kid wants to race his car he should get involved with the SCCA and run autocross.

Drag racing is all about displacement and always will be (in one form or another.)

Plus, while it can be fun, we all know that the REAL drivers race roadcourses. ;)

Put the Lightning against that Evo on a proper roadcourse and all the horsepower in the world wouldn't save it.

(Mofo, this wasn't directed at you, it was just a general statement. :) )

[drcrawn]

Whoa, a Lightning that runs mid 11s...that's seriously fast even on slicks. Wouldnt want your gas bill though. Stick or auto?

BTW many years ago in high school when the lightnings were just starting to come out, my buddy "borrowed" one from his dad's Ford dealership, long story short, some lady called the cops on us for doing over a buck on residential streets. Apparently she wasnt too old to see the dealer plates on the truck, heh.

[drcrawn]

Speaking of muscle trucks, the very first auto I ever realistically wanted to own was the Typhoon? Guys remember the Cyclone too?

[Newbie_User]

To The Mofo
In deed, there is a Fort SVT F-150 Lightning 2003 in GT4.
Do you think their specs are realistic in the game (i mean how they run....they seem awfully weightly for me....for europeans i should say....)

In france, official runs are raced on 150-200 m track...it depends...of the track...
(same as you...i think...) :

Ford Sierra Cosworth 4WD ruled edition 2004 (about 350Hp's and 920 Kgs...have no time to compare with your track length....)

Have a link...if that interest you....
Toyo european event.....400 m tracks (more photos on the french side :)
Beware.....United States citizens... europe is awaking....let's run...:)
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jso/126/koe.htm

anyway.....what's your gazoline consumption??(please not in gallons but in liters per kilometers....:)

Great race (awesome start......bad evo driver.....can't make a slow burn with an evo so about 0.8 sec. lost.....and the stock engine delivers 260-300 hp's at 6500 rpm's...too short...Torque comes also short with 380 Nm....from 3500 to ??.......too high....)
The evo is a damned good rally car (especially on corsica roads....wet roads....snowy roads... transmission of the evo VIII is intelligent...and it's working....but those things are not made for short runs....they runs better on a 1000 meters run.....i doubt your rig would be aerodynamic enough to reach the last 200 meters.....)
Anyway...you just blew the evo....
Nice....
:toast:

[The Mofo]

To The Mofo
In deed, there is a Fort SVT F-150 Lightning 2003 in GT4.
Do you think their specs are realistic in the game (i mean how they run....they seem awfully weightly for me....for europeans i should say....)

In france, official runs are raced on 150-200 m track...it depends...of the track...
(same as you...i think...) :

Ford Sierra Cosworth 4WD ruled edition 2004 (about 350Hp's and 920 Kgs...have no time to compare with your track length....)

Have a link...if that interest you....
Toyo european event.....400 m tracks (more photos on the french side :)
Beware.....United States citizens... europe is awaking....let's run...:)
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jso/126/koe.htm

anyway.....what's your gazoline consumption??(please not in gallons but in liters per kilometers....:)

Great race (awesome start......bad evo driver.....can't make a slow burn with an evo so about 0.8 sec. lost.....and the stock engine delivers 260-300 hp's at 6500 rpm's...too short...Torque comes also short with 380 Nm....from 3500 to ??.......too high....)
The evo is a damned good rally car (especially on corsica roads....wet roads....snowy roads... transmission of the evo VIII is intelligent...and it's working....but those things are not made for short runs....they runs better on a 1000 meters run.....i doubt your rig would be aerodynamic enough to reach the last 200 meters.....)
Anyway...you just blew the evo....
Nice....
:toast:

LOL, thats a pretty cool link. I get about 5.3 klm per gallon.

[DuceGT]

427TT Escalade EXT

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=26&article_id=6860&page_number=1

Chevy :stick: Ford
Lingenfelter >>>>>>>> SVT :woot:

[Unoid]

Nice to see a fellow OCing lightning owner.

I Had a high 12's 99 L (totalled it a year ago)
and got a stock 2004 Sonic Blue right now.
Also a modded 04 srt-4 for winter/daily driving.

:) Check out my case I did a custom lightning logo :) http://unoid.net/watermod/

[jaguarking11]

Speaking of lingenfelter. Check out the 427 TT vette. 0-60 in less than 2seconds and 1/4mile time of 8 and chage. I think they were runing high performance slicks for it though. hell at 802hp embarcing more than a fiew cars out there and I think it still had traction problems.


Awsome truck btw. Nice to see a nice ford thump its way through. Oh and guys handling or not you can tune the truck to handle better than allot of other sport cars.

Personaly nothing better than a throtling v8 and grunt. Ill leave the handling to other. But remember guys everything handles well when your going slow ;)

[Rippthrough]

Not really, handling and grip are two different things.

[Soulburner]

No, if it's stock, it can't run better than 12.24... probably more like 13.70's...

C
Wow man a Z06 will run in the 12s easily, if it can't then the driver sucks.

[Tanktanium]

Hey mofo, got a question. Have you ever raced any 3000GT VR4's? I want to get one within the next six months, and I know they're on the heavy side for a coupe (3700lbs), but they've got a lot of kick for what they cost now (15k or less) for 320bhp. Just wanted to know how they do on the strip, stock or modded :D.

[David Coleman]

My dad just sold his 04 Lightning :(
The 05 TSX is just a little easier on the gas bill...unfortunately
At least my 2.5L MX-3 retakes the fastest vehicle in the family...for now :)

[k3n.chu]

Enjoy.. Right Click - Save As

http://www.venomousmofo.com/mofo04/Kevin.MPG

the evo driver sucks. If he launched you would've gotten owned.

nice truck anyway though.

and rally cars have a 2.0 litre limit. Not a 300 hp limit

evos are knwon to go up to 600-800 awhp, so don't be surprised.

[k3n.chu]

My dad just sold his 04 Lightning :(
The 05 TSX is just a little easier on the gas bill...unfortunately
At least my 2.5L MX-3 retakes the fastest vehicle in the family...for now :)

shouldn't the tsx be faster than ur mx-3? is urs modded?

[CanadianTSi]

People who talk about Lag being a problem have never run a big turbo...

I run a pretty big turbo on my car and don't get 25psi till 4000rpms, but when your launching at 5500 and never dropping below that, there is no Lag.

[CanadianTSi]

Also Evo's run mid 13's stock and can be put into the mid 12's with Intake/Exhaust + S-AFC and people who know how to drive will do 11's on the stock turbo.

[David Coleman]

shouldn't the tsx be faster than ur mx-3? is urs modded?


Yeah...its got a 2.5L V6 in it. 200bhp, 190 ft/lbs. Went to a taller final drive (4.111 vs 4.388) because it wasn't hooking up with all that torque really well.

[Rippthrough]

People who talk about Lag being a problem have never run a big turbo...

I run a pretty big turbo on my car and don't get 25psi till 4000rpms, but when your launching at 5500 and never dropping below that, there is no Lag.

That's not lag, that's the boost threshold.

[[XC] leviathan18]

exactly if you keep it over certain RPM you wont see the LAG but if you let the RPM goes below that margin it will take some time to spin again and produce the boost

[MaxxxRacer]

While I hate trucks and SUV's and all american cars (after 1970), barring the Vette and the ford GT, I must admit that getting a F-150 to launch the way it did and to get it going that fast is quite a feat.

Props to your tunning skills.

[Rippthrough]

exactly if you keep it over certain RPM you wont see the LAG but if you let the RPM goes below that margin it will take some time to spin again and produce the boost


No lag is the delay between putting your foot down and the engine producing the full bhp it can for that RPM, due to the turbo having to spool up. Boost threshold is simply the rpm it takes to get the turbo up to full boost. You always get lag on a turbo engine, although anti-lag ECU systems and twin scroll turbo's help.

[[XC] leviathan18]

i tought after the turbine send the full boost if you keep it over certain rpm range you wont see the lag... but if you brake or go below that rpm you will see the lag cuz the turbina has to spin again... guess i was wrong xD

[MaxxxRacer]

well you always have to lower ur revs when you upshift so there will Always be turbo lag when accelerating.

But if u can speedshift really well (or have paddles/sequential shifting) the lag will be greatly reduced.

[[XC] leviathan18]

not excatly you can upshift without deaccelerating.... ok you shorten the life of your clutch but is fun.... (any word on your new civic :P me wants to see pics)

[Rippthrough]

i tought after the turbine send the full boost if you keep it over certain rpm range you wont see the lag... but if you brake or go below that rpm you will see the lag cuz the turbina has to spin again... guess i was wrong xD


You'd be suprised how many 'experts' get confused over that too, you're in good company!

[CanadianTSi]

There is no lag on an Upshift, full boost is built back almost instantaneously.

The only time lag is ever a problem is when downshifting isn't possible for whatever reason, but then it's always nice to give the other guy a headstart :D

[[XC] leviathan18]

and if you have a supercharger you wont see any lag true??? but they dont produce as much power as turbos ?

[MaxxxRacer]

correct, no lag on superchargers. i guess there might be a bit of lag as it has to compress the air a bit, but thats about it.

lev, the broker lied to us. The only civic of hte model i want will be here in 14 days.. thats the only one coming to los angeles.. really pissing me off.

[[XC] leviathan18]

:( sad to hear that bro.... kick that guy in the nuts @ least they should give you some discount or better package because he lied to you (dont go if they dont give you the Si xD)

[bullet2urbrain]

Wow im definitely sure this is XtremeSystems.. because there is so much misinformation floating throughout this thread... and so many people with so many opinions...and not alot of knowledge about cars..

Nice Job to the Mofo with the truck.. really nice launch...and nice run overall.

check out my thread for some interesting American Power.

[gkiing]

It's a misconception that you need lots of power to go fast. You just need the right power/weight ratio.

[Soulburner]

and if you have a supercharger you wont see any lag true??? but they dont produce as much power as turbos ?
Sadly you are generalizing with your use of the word "Supercharger".

There are many different ways to force air into an engine.

Screw
Roots
Centrifugal

To name a few...now a Centrifugal Supercharger works the same way as a Turbocharger. They both use a centrifugal blower, only on a supercharged system the impeller is run off of the crankshaft, and on a turbocharged system the impeller is spun off the force of the exhaust. That is why a turbocharged engine can see a little "lag" where a supercharged system is directly driven and power is more instant regardless of RPM. Although, the faster you spin the impeller the more boost it will make. The turbocharged system will however make slightly more peak power as its approach has a little less parasitic drag on the engine.

The other two I mentioned are directly driven off the engine and actually mount directly on top of the intake rather than running piping into the throttle body. They will produce full boost all the time regardless of RPM.

Again, there is more than one way to get the job done. :cool: