what is the best cpu? AMD Dual Core 4400+ or dothan 770?

[ye_3333]

hello guys..
i want to buy a new system but i dont know what to take..?
AMD Dual Core 4400+
or
dothan 770+ct479

the mobo is not the problem.
i have also vapochill ls mod ( -74c)
ocz pc5000 512x2

soo what i need to take?
thanks

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

:D FX-57..........

:toast:

[ye_3333]

i know but i dont have the money for that..
soo

AMD Dual Core 4400+
or
dothan 770+ct479?
thanks

[waddupmm]

-74c.. Thats pretty low for a vapochill ls, I would personally for the 4400 dual core less of a hassle to setup, no mounting tricks etc.

[computersmsa]

Not compare a Single Core with a Dual core ... if you want a Dual Core take the X2, if you want single ... good Venice 3000+ is only 150$ and so good ;)

[adz]

i think 4400+ is a wiser choice beacuse u can co more things,is a more reliable platform.. dothan seems like just 4 benching!

[craig588]

Dothan is the better (AKA faster) CPU. A 939 CPU will make upgrading your videocard easier.

[Kunaak]

the 4400 would have much higher potential for long term use, since AGP is dead, and there are now 24 pipeline cards out, and such.

if you want a high super pi score, get a dothan, want a good all around system, that has alot of potential for upgrades and long term use, get the 4400.

[Kanavit]

yup, Kunaak's right. agp is dead, so this raises an important point. A64 4400+ is way better. plus, who want to go through the trouble of finding an adapter that works for the Dothan? obviously, AMD is the easier choice here. Plus Dual core A64 X2 is very powerful now with multi-threading support too. can't go wrong there.

[[XC] leviathan18]

craig the socket 939 is not better cuz is easier to change your video card is better because you have more options of motherboards sata sata II gigabyte conection pci express and you can use dual core i think yonah is coming with 478 pins (different configuration so you cant use it with a socket 478 mobo for desktop) like everybody said dothan if you want to bench and that is all if you want a fast setup future proof go with the 4400+ the best choice

[charlie]

better for WHAT?

Dothan is a faster chip, no doubt about it... superPi benchmarking, 3D Mark racing...but it's on a "dead" platform. So for future plans, go A64...

C

[Kanavit]

wait about a year, and Acer notebook will no doubt release a Dothan 780 @ 2.13 with a 7800 gtx go. that would be nice, and mabye perhaps SLI might be introduced in notebooks and laptops some day.

[[XC] leviathan18]

4 how much ? more than 3k for sure

[Lando95]

Why is Dothan a dead platform? Aopen has made a 915 chipset board (http://www.newegg.com/OldVersion/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-137-061&depa=0) for it with PCI-E and DDR2. Granted, it is made by Aopen, and it is expensive as hell. But if they can produce a board with a desktop chipset for the Dothan, I don't see why someone else won't too. I take that back, there probably just isn't a market for it right now.

[metro.cl]

dual core for the near future, dothan awsome overclocker but no so good for 24/7

[Vapor]

Why is Dothan a dead platform? Aopen has made a 915 chipset board (http://www.newegg.com/OldVersion/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-137-061&depa=0) for it with PCI-E and DDR2. Granted, it is made by Aopen, and it is expensive as hell. But if they can produce a board with a desktop chipset for the Dothan, I don't see why someone else won't too. I take that back, there probably just isn't a market for it right now.
Dothan isn't a dead platform, the chipsets and boards it runs on (with CT-479) and they're accompanying tech is.

[mcnbns]

Dothan isn't a dead platform, the chipsets and boards it runs on (with CT-479) and they're accompanying tech is.
That's what he said...

Another vote for 4400+ here. Unless you have the money to get both (which I assume you don't if you posted this thread) then go socket 939. It'll be easier in the long run.

[pancake]

with a -70 vapo go for the dual core as youll be able to get crazy overclocks out of it... my 4800 has lots of potential but my watercooling just cant keep it cool enough at high clocks and volts. or get a fx55

[exscape]

AMD 64-bit dual core vs Intel 32-bit single core for laptops. Pretty weird to compare them head-to-head like this IMHO.

[EvlUndrWareNome]

The dual core with that nice cooling you have will serve you well. You will be able to get SLI compatibility, with that comes PCI-X. Your set for video card upgrades now. Games/Apps will eventually become made for dual core.

Go with the Dual Core.

[AnAlYZeR]

hello guys..
i want to buy a new system but i dont know what to take..?
AMD Dual Core 4400+
or
dothan 770+ct479

the mobo is not the problem.
i have also vapochill ls mod ( -74c)
ocz pc5000 512x2

soo what i need to take?
thanks
יחיאל יא שקרן יש לך xe2 עלק ls ב-74


Dream on

[Andrewv]

:nono:
what's that suppose to mean?

lols he talks on hebrew

[The Mofo]

Looks like Arabic to me.

I look at it like this. Dothan is a nice processor for benching, thats about it. Its desktop existance isnt worth the steep price tag, esp after you factor in the chipset and adapter, depending which route you go with it.

Now, im assuming you have $650 to blow on just a processor. Even the current X2 seems to need a revision to fix some of its issues, like one core clocking higher then the other and its erreta issue. What i would do is get a cheap socket 939 setup.. 3200+ with a 10X multi and just sit and wait until Q4.

[S&M]

AnAlYZeR, leave this crap out of XS - This is one of the best reasons why israelforums looks like :banana::banana::banana::banana: ....

don't bring this thread crapping into X.S !

[Frederik]

I also agree with Kunaak. A dualcore will be nicer to work on daily. If you want to go just with benchies, a dothan will be better, but overall a 4400+ is the choice to make I think.

AnAlYZeR, if you have something to say about the temps his vapo reaches, do it in english please! :slapass:

I also do think -74 won't be the real temp, but is only what the display of ye_3333's vapo shows.

[ye_3333]

ok i will take:
amd x2 4400+
is very the best!..
i have now vapo chill xe and i will take this to my 7800gtx (that i will buy) and i have here chilly 1 evap + nl11f compresor +r507 gas.. and i will make me a system that give -65c in the evap... the is very good..


AnAlYZeR
חח אני לא משקר אחי באמת בעזרת ליאור אני הולך להביא מערכת חזקה עם לא יותר מה
ls
כך שלא שיקרתי ... לפחות לא בדיוק..
בקיצור אחי בלי עיברית פה לא יפה להתחיל להדליק את החברה הגדולים חח

יחיאל


sorry guys..

thanks

[cupra]

AnAlYZeR, leave this crap out of XS - This is one of the best reasons why israelforums looks like :banana::banana::banana::banana: ....

don't bring this thread crapping into X.S !

you are right my friend :D

[lutjens]

I'd definitely go with the X2 over the Dothan...Intel seems to have no desire to use Dothan as a mainstream desktop processor, at least not until Yonah, so you will be forced to use AGP and the dated 875/865 chipsets on the Asus P4P and P4C boards.

I think, for daily use, the X2 will be much more useful, simply due to the fluidity gained by the second core. And when overclocked, it'll compete with the Dothan in single threaded applications.

My $0.02...;)

[krille]

I'd say the X2.

Although there are PCI-E boards for Dothan, they aren't OC friendly. Moreover, in the future, X2 will, as been said before, be better for gaming etc. when more things become multi-threaded.

[MrSeanKon]

If I were you I will prefer X2. :D
Why?
The others have replied yet so no reason to repeat the same story.

[xxxAgentxxx]

the 4400 would have much higher potential for long term use, since AGP is dead, and there are now 24 pipeline cards out, and such.

if you want a high super pi score, get a dothan, want a good all around system, that has alot of potential for upgrades and long term use, get the 4400.

^what he said.

If you already have p4c800 or a board capable of running a dothan (like me) I would just get a dothan 730 for roughly $150 off eBay, socket adapter for $40, and after selling your current cpu off, it shouldn't be an expensive upgrade. Infact, I sold my 3.2E for more money than I spent on this dothan 730, but ended up losing $20 after buying the adapter, but $20 for every game I play to run smoother (noticably) was worth the upgrade to me. It packs some serious punch, but it's a dead end CPU with a dead end chipset.

[mahrhofer]

^what he said.

If you already have p4c800 or a board capable of running a dothan (like me) I would just get a dothan 730 for roughly $150 off eBay, socket adapter for $40, and after selling your current cpu off, it shouldn't be an expensive upgrade. Infact, I sold my 3.2E for more money than I spent on this dothan 730, but ended up losing $20 after buying the adapter, but $20 for every game I play to run smoother (noticably) was worth the upgrade to me. It packs some serious punch, but it's a dead end CPU with a dead end chipset.

Athlon 64 (X2) no matter which socket is dead end too. In 2006 you have to face socket M2 and DDR2, so your investment is going the way of the Dodo anyway.....
It comes down to what you already have NOW and what you want to spend. :slapass:

[turtle]

Athlon 64 (X2) no matter which socket is dead end too. In 2006 you have to face socket M2 and DDR2, so your investment is going the way of the Dodo anyway.....
It comes down to what you already have NOW and what you want to spend. :slapass:

Except...It's a longer path until the dead end, which all hardware is, so it's a moot point. Not only does it allow easier pci-e, sata2, ect, ect support...Dual core is the future, and getting one now and overclocking it to hell and back should leave you set for quite a while, perhaps even until the 2007 socket with DDR3, the one everyone is really waiting for. All M2 most likely will be is slightly higher clocked x2's with DDR2 support. I imagine a 4400 939 would be one of the best choices for longevity in the computer world, as it's tomorrow's tech before you actually need it, plus no really new tech seems slated for the m2 platform (other than the afore-mentioned DDR2) that 939 won't have a derivative for and handle itsself.