Help Kazoo find a new Vehicle

[Kazoo]

Okay guys, I gave up my lease vehicle, and now I need to find a new one. I can't make up my mind! This week, I either want an SUV or convertible. I thought I was getting a Jag, until I saw them up close. UGH!

What would you buy? Link to pics please... :D

[SewerSide]

<img>http://fast-autos.net/featurecars/pw300c/pw300c.jpg</img>

[perkam]

Hey Kazoo,

Though investing in hardware is a tad diferent than investing in cars, knowing the price range would still help :)

Thx.

Perkam

[Disposibleteen]

I believe there is a thread on a 727 limo someone posted up in the wamps section. Get that ;). On a more serious note i strongly recommend the below pictured automobile.


http://modelart.co.kr/bbs/data/modelcar/ENZO_FERRARI(RED)_5.jpg

[Kazoo]

hmm...under 40k to buy, under 60k to lease.

[cadaveca]

rx-9, the new mitsu eclipse,for sport's car fun, or if you want regular all duty, say a truck, chevy; ford makes durable cop cars; dodge makes HEMI's...in lots of formats. when it comes to buying a car, it all depends on what you want most. really. what's that most important thing? 1 thing? when you think vehicle, what do you think? nobody here can really recommend you a car.

this topic is just beggin for flamin.

[I²K]

http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/media_library/hq/hq_mpc_reference_site/passenger_cars/products/new_cars/CLK_Cabriolet_01_2005/Designlinesequipment/clk-cabriolet_designlinesequipment5.object-Single-MEDIA.tmp/CLK-Cabriolet_Designlinesequipment_Designlines_ELEGANC E_410x220_01-2005.jpg

I don't know the US prices for the CKL but it starts at 43K €,

http://www.bmw.com/generic/de/de/products/automobiles/mseries/m3convertible/img/introduction_front.jpg

M3 starts here at 55K €

http://www.audi.com/cf/imgs/de/de/neuwagen/a4/s4cabriolet/s4cabriolet/11139886048436386.jpg

S4 (My Favorite) Starts at 60K €.

But for the M3 and the S4 you don't need many extras :-)

[[XC]thewildblue]

What Jag did you look at ? I would have thought the XK8 would have been nice to have. I had a 3.0 S Type not long ago but it was too expensive for me to run.

[MaxxxRacer]

u know my choice tammy.. and u know its dam sexy.. go for the elise... though if u get that car your gonna have a visitor soon.

[Waxman]

This one would be cool!
http://www.340r.net/pictures/stevio2000/Mvc-054f.jpg
http://www.340r.net/pictures/kinsey/k1.JPG
http://www.340r.net/pictures/bedford/DSC00003.jpg

[Kazoo]

That's cool as hell, what is that?

[Disposibleteen]

lol most of these cars are very cool but almost none are very practicle for street driving (save maybe the ones I2K suggested). On an even more serious note i would say that i cannot recommend you a car until you tell me a few more bits of info. Is gas mileage a big worry and is passenger seating/cargo space a big worry.

[Waxman]

That's cool as hell, what is that?

Lotus Elise 340R.

The 340 is the number of hp per ton.

The car wheights half a ton (500 kg) and it has 170 hp :D

[bachus_anonym]

That Lotus is not even that expensive here, in US.... http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/lotus/elise/100399437/researchlanding.html

Cool car... Great for driving around your sunny town with a top down :D

Great find, Waxman :toast:

[Peen]

Hey Kazoo! Get an early bronco like mine, They are so much fun and you can take top and doors off

ya its probly not reliable enough. Toyotas are really reliable, everyone knows that.. so maybe a Lexus? :)

[notoriousformula]

Bmw X5

[[XC] moddolicous]

Hey Kazoo! Get an early bronco like mine, They are so much fun and you can take top and doors off

ya its probly not reliable enough. Toyotas are really reliable, everyone knows that.. so maybe a Lexus? :)
We use to have a bronco2, it was the funnest car we ever had. This person hit the back going like 30. We had a hitch on the back, and it went through their radiator and hit something really important.
Damage to their car:5000+
Damage to our car: scratch on the trailer hitch :p:

[Mr_Slinky]

how about this it like an suv but with more powa!
i would take the 2nd one

[Disposibleteen]

i hate the way people put huge rims on their cars, what is wrong with the stock ones, they look perfectly fine and function better than those after market ones. The money would be better spent elsewhere, where it counts like a new engine or perhaps a supercharger.

@Waxman- i can only imagine what would happen to one of those if it got into an accident with an 18 wheeled semi truck, it would get totalled and driver would not be in stable condition to say the least.

[Peen]

We use to have a bronco2, it was the funnest car we ever had. This person hit the back going like 30. We had a hitch on the back, and it went through their radiator and hit something really important.
Damage to their car:5000+
Damage to our car: scratch on the trailer hitch :p:
that just happened to me recently, actually. 3 car pile up, a car ran into the back of my truck totalling her brand new car. My heavy duty rear bumper didnt even take a scratch! My back tires were on her hood, and the REAL hood was knocked off the car
:toast: I felt bad for her, but deep inside I was like SWEET! Cops were all around with my back tires on the hood! lol
This is what my rear bumper looks like, but didnt have tire on it =P

[STEvil]

gmc pickup :P

[MaxxxRacer]

thats two louts' kazoo... u know u want one!

[trance565]

05 mustang gt xD, ill get links to pics in a few

[Crownie]

stick with somefin european.

[trance565]

y european?

[Waxman]

Hey Kazoo, you can also get one of these bad boys ;)

http://automobiles.honda.com/images/banners/2005/s2000/exterior_gallery/photo_08_large.jpghttp://automobiles.honda.com/images/banners/2005/s2000/interior_gallery/photo_03_large.jpg

http://automobiles.honda.com/images/banners/2005/s2000/exterior_gallery/photo_05_large.jpghttp://automobiles.honda.com/images/banners/2005/s2000/interior_gallery/photo_12_large.jpg

http://automobiles.honda.com/images/banners/2005/s2000/exterior_gallery/photo_14_large.jpghttp://automobiles.honda.com/images/banners/2005/s2000/interior_gallery/photo_09_large.jpg

Engine Type In-Line 4-Cylinder
Horsepower @ rpm (SAE net) 240 @ 7800
Torque (lb.-ft. @ rpm) 162 @ 6500
Redline (rpm) 8000
Valve Train 16-Valve DOHC VTEC®
Alloy Wheels (in., front/rear) 17x7.0 / 17x8.5
CARB Emissions Rating LEV

Now for even better news :D

TRIM LEVEL
Starting MSRP
S2000
$33,150

[MaxxxRacer]

ooh s2000.. sweet car.. if u dont mind the high revs its fun as hell.

[Waxman]

European style :D

http://www.307cc.net/photos/fichiers/membres/page3/chevreuil62100/0003.jpg
http://www.307cc.net/photos/fichiers/membres/page3/chevreuil62100/0008.jpg
http://www.307cc.net/photos/fichiers/membres/page3/chevreuil62100/0005.jpg
http://www.307cc.net/photos/fichiers/membres/page4/skyline/skyline03.jpg
http://www.307cc.net/photos/fichiers/membres/page4/skyline/skyline02.jpg

Behold the Peugeot 307 CC (coupe-cabriolet).

Too bad you don't have it there.It's a nice car.

[Waxman]

Peugeot 307 CC 's little brother ;)

The 206 CC

http://www.km77.com/marcas/peugeot/206cc_01/gra/trescuerdelserie.jpg
http://www.km77.com/marcas/peugeot/206cc_01/gra/proto2.jpg
http://www.km77.com/marcas/peugeot/206cc_01/gra/proto1.jpg

[perkam]

Hey Kazoo,

Was originally going to recommend a nice Porsche Boxster that you could lease...but thought of something a tad bit more fuctional...and jaw dropping at the same time.

The Mercedes SLK 350
http://www.mbusa.com/media/images/main/models/gallery/photo_gallery/slk/roadster_ext_0_main.jpg

You can contact Fletcher Jones Imports in Las Vegas, Nevada here:

7300 West Sahara Avenue
Las Vegas, NV 89117

Phone: (800) 764-2575
Fax: (702) 364-2889

Here are their hours:

Mon-Fri. 8:30am - 9:00pm
Sat. 8:30am - 7:00pm
Sun. Closed

If you negotiate the price right, you can get it a very nice round lease figure of around ~$55k with options. Looks great in Iridium Silver Metallic ;) More info about the car here: http://www.mbusa.com/brand/models/SLK350.jsp .

Hope that helps.

Perkam

[Peen]

Get a truck with a lot of lift and some big tires! then you can run over Hondas and stuff

[Disposibleteen]

too much lift in some states is illegal, check the laws in your state before doing really big lift jobs.

[Waxman]

Try to stomp on this one :D
http://www.allsportauto.com/photoautre/renault/spider/sautevent/1996_renault_spider_sautevent_05_m.jpghttp://www.allsportauto.com/photoautre/renault/spider/sautevent/1996_renault_spider_sautevent_03_m.jpg
http://www.allsportauto.com/photoautre4/renault/spider/1996_renault_spider_14_m.jpghttp://www.allsportauto.com/photoautre4/renault/spider/1996_renault_spider_02_m.jpg

[Gray Mole]

NOOOO not a 206 NOT a 307!

If you like rattles, buy a 307...

If you like to shower while you drive, a 206...

I used to fix those things... :fact:

That Lotus looks like a SmartCar :p:

The Honda S2000 is defo the one...


Gray

[SewerSide]

NOOOO not a 206 NOT a 307!

If you like rattles, buy a 307...

If you like to shower while you drive, a 206...

I used to fix those things... :fact:

That Lotus looks like a SmartCar :p:

The Honda S2000 is defo the one...


Gray


Dear god, you didnt just choose a Honda over a Lotus did you? :slapass:

[Waxman]

Dear god, you didnt just choose a Honda over a Lotus did you? :slapass:

Well, the Lotus is $42K and the Honda $33K.

What would you do if you were in her place?

As far as I can tell, she hasn't decided yet.

I say she should test drive both and decide wich one she wants.

But $9K are $9K :fact:

[conrad.maranan]

With a base price of $32,750.00, you can't go wrong with the Inifiniti G35 Coupe (http://www.infiniti.com/content/0,,cid-75219_sctid-12001,00.html). If you enjoy spirited driving, opt for the model that comes equipped with a 6-speed manual transmission and 18 extra horses. ;) I'm currently thinking of trading in my truck for one. :D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32795&stc=1

[perkam]

From the front of the G35 Coupe, the lights look like transparent Watermelons. Otherwise it looks great with some mods.

Though yourself with a nice 530i and recommending an import to Kazoo :nono: I'd drool at an M5 anyday :slobber: Wouldn't mind drooling at a Skyline too though :D

Perkam

[Waxman]

Well conrad, she wants a convertible.

So that must be out of the loop. :fact:

[conrad.maranan]

EWWWW From the front of the G35 Coupe, the lights look like transparent Watermelons :sick:

Yourself with a 535i and recommending THAT to Kazoo :nono: I'd drool at an M5 anyday :slobber:

Perkam
Thanks for your opinion, Kam. On the bright side, there are others who appreciate the overall design of the vehicle - and I happen to be one of them. I have a 530i. There are no 535s in the 2005 line of BMW 5 Series. And since we're talking about my car now, just ask FUGGER or chilly1 how much I was cursing at my vehicle on the day I met them to pick up my phase change boxes. ;)

Well conrad, she wants a convertible.

So that must be out of the loop. :fact:
I'm trying to convince her to change her mind. :D

[computerpro3]

for suv, porsche cayenne

for car, I'm in teh same position as you right now, same price point and everything. I went and looked at a 2002 Jag xkr convertible, and it was gorgeous, but the back seats had literally 0in of leg room which I can't do. Of course if it's just the two of you that drive the car.....

If you do get away from the convertible, look at a used Mercedes s600 sedan. They can be had for around 45k for a 2002ish model. 495hp v12, super luxurious (Mercede's flagship model originally retailing for around 112k for the 2002 model). This thing has everything from DVD system to digital phone to curtains in the back seats etc, with sports car performance to boot. Of course buying a sedan that length for just two people might be overkill, but hey, it would be quite the fun and luxurious overkill :)

[SewerSide]

Well, the Lotus is $42K and the Honda $33K.

What would you do if you were in her place?

As far as I can tell, she hasn't decided yet.

I say she should test drive both and decide wich one she wants.

But $9K are $9K :fact:

Depends on what kind of driving she wants to do and how she wants to look while she does it.

If she is looking for a shopping cart with no lid, the S2000 would be perfect.

[ZX7891]

The Acura TL with all the body kits is pretty sweet. It comes out at around 33k.
http://ronjonwheels.com/ronjonimages/large/b11.jpg

[perkam]

The Acura TL with all the body kits is pretty sweet. It comes out at around 33k.
http://ronjonwheels.com/ronjonimages/large/b11.jpg

:eek: Linky !!! ???

Thx :)

Perkam

[conrad.maranan]

Those TLs are pretty sweet, too - and they pack a nice punch. The back reminds me of an Autobot/Decepticon badge.

[Kazoo]

No such luck Conrad, I want the ragtop or the SUV. I've narrowed it down that much at least ;)

[conrad.maranan]

How about a Nissan Z Roadster? Or an Audi TT Roadster? Or just call it a day and pick up a Corvette Convertible. :D

[Peen]

too much lift in some states is illegal, check the laws in your state before doing really big lift jobs.
No its just how high your bumper is off the ground. But, I think the law is messed up cuz just on my truck, the bumper is at the back window of most cars and on lowered Honduhs its almost over the whole thing! Thank god when I lost my brakes I didnt run into one!

[bypolar]

This has it all. V-8 SUV with car like handling. and volvo's unserpased Safty.


The wife will love it. It is safe and fast with 4 wheel drive add a moonroof and you can have it all.
http://home.bendbroadband.com/bypolar/stylecam/XC91.jpg

[amduser]

mayby a dumb thought, but way get in vegas a m3, s4 etc. whem you only can drive like 60mph or somethink like that? as much i know (*I'm not us though*) in vegas are no free roods for free inhabitants. a would go for a convertible with a small engine, cause suv's are pointless cars in my opnion.

[[XC] leviathan18]

i think this is the perfect card convertible quattro traction engine with turbo german engineer nice look the AUDI S4

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/09/s4cabrio04_03_800.jpg

[I²K]

http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/71269.jpg

Mybe in 2007 if you have time. A3 Convertible.

[lalPOOO]

Used viper ;)

[amduser]

http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/71269.jpg

Mybe in 2007 if you have time. A3 Convertible.

wouldn't buy a brandnew car. at least 2 years normaly producers need to get out the childhood diseases. ok, there some exceptions like a audi v8 (*the car i will drive next*) but who does know that if he (she) buys a new car ...


Used viper ;)

and they hello to next tree. vipers are hard to drive ..., realy.

i would buy a small 3er or a4 convertible. about 130hp are realy more then enough if you can'T drive faster then 60mph.

[CaTalyst.X]

Hey kazoo...seems like youre getting alot of BS answers in here..:) If youre looking at a convertible, go with the Honda S2000. (manual of course :D) There really fun cars to drive, come stock with an H22 Motor which is really quick :P If youre not dead set on a convertible...id reccoment the Acura 3.2TL...V6 and Automanual tranny are standard equipment, also a fun car altho not near the control that the S2000 Has. S2000 GETS MY VOTE!

[Gray Mole]

I really do like the lotus elise, but that version...

Like I said, they look like 'Smart' cars, if you've ever seen one, you know what I mean...

3cyl turbo at just over 90hp I think, and sooo ugly...

The Lotus is better, but the classic Elise, not that thing...

The Honda not only has a lot going for it, it's got potential for some mods that come only with a car of it's genre...

Hell for another 200k you can buy a race engine that'll just drop in ;)

My personal opinion, after having to work on the horrible things, is NEVER to buy a convertible, but I've never heard bad things about the Honda...

Peugeot's are bad...

Audi's are bad...

VW's...don't get me talking about 'em...

I did a short stint with Honda, and loved 'em...just didn't break down enough to keep me in work :rolleyes: I wish I'd been there when the S2000 came on the scene...

Gray

[[XC] leviathan18]

^^ audis are bad LOL you maybe know something about pc but you dont know what are you talking about in cars almost all european cars are the best

that audi a3 looks sweet

i would go audi S4 audi TT any bmw convertible mercedes slk 250 nissan 350z roadster mazda mx 5 honda s2000 toyota supra

[SewerSide]

I really do like the lotus elise, but that version...

Like I said, they look like 'Smart' cars, if you've ever seen one, you know what I mean...

3cyl turbo at just over 90hp I think, and sooo ugly...

The Lotus is better, but the classic Elise, not that thing...

The Honda not only has a lot going for it, it's got potential for some mods that come only with a car of it's genre...

Hell for another 200k you can buy a race engine that'll just drop in ;)

My personal opinion, after having to work on the horrible things, is NEVER to buy a convertible, but I've never heard bad things about the Honda...

Peugeot's are bad...

Audi's are bad...

VW's...don't get me talking about 'em...

I did a short stint with Honda, and loved 'em...just didn't break down enough to keep me in work :rolleyes: I wish I'd been there when the S2000 came on the scene...

Gray
Potential? Every car has potential.
lol @ $200,000 race engine, any car would be king of the road with a $200,000 race engine :rolleyes:

Which Lotus are you talking about in regards to a Turbo?
The 340R is not turbo.
The Elise, are not turbo.
The Turbo models are the Espirit's and the Lotus Elise GT1 which costs around $645,000.

You think Honda's are better than European cars?
Are you smoking crack?
I think you need to stick to computers as leviathan18 said.
:nono:

[perkam]

I think a good mercedes or a bmw ragtop or coupe would be a good idea ;) .

Though guys, pls, lets not have flame-baiting here - of all places - considering this IS Kazoo's thread....nuff said.

Perkam

[Waxman]

Wait just a second.


Honda's gearboxes are far superior than most of the european ones in terms of precision, durability and smootheness.

I know that for a fact because I used to own a civic vtec and my father owns one of the new ones.

Honda's are made to last a lot of time without much wear and tear.

European cars don't last as much time as a Honda.

That I can assure you.

But there are exceptions.

@Gray Mole

So peugeots are bad :stick:

My uncle has a 1986 Peugeot 205 with 190K miles in it.

It's his secondary car now.

The engine was never opened and only serviceable parts were exchanged.

It's a 1.1L engine with 55hp :D

With 19 years old it still reaches 100 mph - That's the same top speed that the car reached when it was brand new. :fact:

Don't bash European or Japanese cars. :slapass:

They are not junk.

In fact they are more evolved than US cars :D

[perkam]

In fact they are more evolved than US cars

And waxman joins the fray by dissing US cars...practically shouting out "Corvette and Mustang Owners Unite !!!" :rolleyes:

Pls limit your response to recommendations, no need to debate which is better or not here. Open a new topic in the wampateers section or something for that.

Perkam

[Waxman]

I like Us cars like the ones you've mentioned Perkam.

I'm addicted to cars.

And yes, european cars are more evolved than american ones, at least at the engine level.

Mustangs and Vettes sound soo nice :D

I don't want to start a fight with what I've said, but if american engines were a little more developed, they could spend less fuel maintaining the same sound and performance level.


Kazzo, stick with the Honda S2000 :D

[eddy]

2005 Corvette
Where I live, they have one used. Under 200 miles. $50k.

[STEvil]

Honda's are made to last a lot of time without much wear and tear.

yeah, they make great city cars dont they? lol.

[Waxman]

yeah, they make great city cars dont they? lol.

City cars that can put other cars to shame on a track day :D

They are nice sleepers :fact:

[[XC] leviathan18]

bmw mercedes and audi are made to last and a lot my aunt 330 have like 345000 km and her 550 brand new is awesome.

http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/3/330CiConvertible i love that car is beatiful

if you want to go fast http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/M/M3Convertible

[computerpro3]

City cars that can put other cars to shame on a track day :D

They are nice sleepers :fact:


They simply aren't in the same league as the m3 or other cars like that however. Bimmer magazine tested an ungoverned m5 (unlocked via ac schnitzer or however you spell it) to 186mph on the track, and said the m3 could go more.

Personally I would never, ever get a honda over a mid-high end BMW or Mercedes sports car.

Someone say track?

http://www.bmwusa.com/NR/rdonlyres/F2405E2A-ADCD-4350-9FDE-16290F67A32E/0/0432_07.jpg

http://www.bmwusa.com/NR/rdonlyres/D6582C14-432E-40B2-A722-C412746FC501/0/0432_08.jpg

http://www.bmwusa.com/NR/rdonlyres/11BC0A25-9CE4-45F3-BC1F-EE3AB1576AE9/0/0432_05.jpg

Nuff said

[[XC] leviathan18]

im starting to hate my galant vr 2002 :(

[STEvil]

City cars that can put other cars to shame on a track day :D

They are nice sleepers :fact:

as long as you dont plan on keeping the car after track day.

[I²K]

i would buy a small 3er.

Aba konkret krass'n 3er :-)#

A few month ago i read about a guy in gb who sells refurbished Shelby Mustangs :-) I can't remeber the price but this would be my first choice over all the other cars if i could afford it.

[[XC] leviathan18]

a shelby mustang is nice but is not a everyday car you have to keep in mind comodity for a car that you would use everyday

[I²K]

http://www.tripple.net/img/upf11-2005-3-23-56-59-shelby.jpg

But maybe his son :-)

http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/05/05/Vert-10.jpg

Or his lil' brother :-) But i don't know price!

Edit: Now i do.

2005 Ford Mustang V-6 Convertible remains the lowest-priced V-6 convertible in the industry, starting at $24,495.

2005 Ford Mustang GT Convertible is the most affordable 300-horsepower drop-top on the road, starting at $29,995.

Lucky americans. For 25k i mybe get a Golf or New Beetle convertible with 100hp :-)

[amduser]

Audi's are bad...


sure, and why does my old car still drive, an audi a6 2.5 tdi build in 1997 and has down 200k km's. why does a audi v8 drive more then 300k km'S without major defekts and why ...

and now we go to americans? why does the engine bonnet vibret at a speed of 200km/h :p: . it doesn'T depend on the brand name, it depends on the car. the right audi's are nearly indestructible. a audi tt is crap, but a audi a6 3.0 Tdi will work for at least for 300k km's without problemes. just don't judge a car without knowing much about it much.

[skate2snow]

I didnt read the whole thread, but something along the AUdi TT style is nice.... But why spend so much in a car? Luxe Car aint a could investiment IMO (even in the 35k range....) IMO!

[SewerSide]

I didnt read the whole thread, but something along the AUdi TT style is nice.... But why spend so much in a car? Luxe Car aint a could investiment IMO (even in the 35k range....) IMO!


Why spend over $100 on a PC?

[timpanogos]

Here ya go, these things haaaaaulll - think diced overclock on a bmw

http://www.minicooper.org/images/tigger%20minipark_s.JPG

Mini cooper

[Disposibleteen]

i like the new 06 mitso Eclipse

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/pictures/VEHICLE/2005/Mitsubishi/100358685/028868-E.jpg

[skate2snow]

Seewer, do you have something against opinions? If yes, I dunno what you do on forums:D. :).

I really doubt I would see Kazoo in a minicooper...lol

That eclipse is nice, but a little too much,,,,, You know what.,...

[SewerSide]

Seewer, do you have something against opinions? If yes, I dunno what you do on forums:D. :).

I know it was your opinion, I read your post wrong, it was early in the morning.

[trance565]

lol, 100 dollar computer, to tell the truth, i go for cheap performance, like a 700 dollar rig that does evthing like my comp, and like a mustang mach 1 2k2, >18k = 13 sec qt mile, and lots of comfort, wuts to complain about there, wow audi has smaller car, 4 wd, slower, and costs more, just as comfy, i dunno, i just dun see it as .... logical, i mean, if u can get a car taht is just as nice, if not better, for cheaper, why the hell not?, neways

GO WIT DA MUSTANG GT!!!!

[Elisha]

I am totally a Nissan/Infiniti person so i'm gonna say the 350Z of the FX45.
You can't go wrong with a Japanese or European car. Although Cadillacs are sweet too.

[[XC] leviathan18]

ol, 100 dollar computer, to tell the truth, i go for cheap performance, like a 700 dollar rig that does evthing like my comp, and like a mustang mach 1 2k2, >18k = 13 sec qt mile, and lots of comfort, wuts to complain about there, wow audi has smaller car, 4 wd, slower, and costs more, just as comfy, i dunno, i just dun see it as .... logical, i mean, if u can get a car taht is just as nice, if not better, for cheaper, why the hell not?, neways

GO WIT DA MUSTANG GT!!!!

have you ever own a audi or bmw? well im gonna tell you this my mom have a 545i 2005 bmw and my fathar a x5 2004 my moms car had a burnt stop and the bmw service called her to tell that they needed the car because it has a burn stop and if some day she has an accident or a flat tyre she call the bmw center and they send a somebody to fix the problem that is why you are paying more and the german cars are way more secure than american cars.

also i like when i enter with my bluetooth mobile phone to my moms car the car activates the freedhand set of the car is just a very nice car and is fast very fast.

[amduser]

lol, 100 dollar computer, to tell the truth, i go for cheap performance, like a 700 dollar rig that does evthing like my comp, and like a mustang mach 1 2k2, >18k = 13 sec qt mile, and lots of comfort, wuts to complain about there, wow audi has smaller car, 4 wd, slower, and costs more, just as comfy, i dunno, i just dun see it as .... logical, i mean, if u can get a car taht is just as nice, if not better, for cheaper, why the hell not?, neways

GO WIT DA MUSTANG GT!!!!


and now we go to americans? why does the engine bonnet vibret at a speed of 200km/h :p: .

this is accoreded to that mustang gt. thats somethink my old audi did way more better. just don't judge without ever seen the difference :slapass: :fact: . most american cars are crap, thats just the way it is. german cars are fully load with high tech stuff and that leads often to problemes (*even though in germany you only can buy them, cause other cars lose to much value*). japanes cars are normaly the best going, germans the techical advanced and most confortable and the us cars are just the rest. ok, there some outstanding us cars in the moment, most came von cadilac, but those cars aren'T actually cheaper then germans.

[trance565]

my family has neve had any problems with american cars, and with german cars having all those buttons and other bull :banana::banana::banana::banana: tahts not needed, it makes driving confusing, seriously, a radio, AC, and seat warmers, are all u need in a car, all that navigation :banana::banana::banana::banana:, i dun think it helps, and yes ive driven bmw's and mercedes b4, dont get me wrong, nice cars, but too expensive. oh, and another option, is wait till 2k7, and get a camaro SS xD

[amduser]

cause normaly you drive in usa not more then 60/75mph (*ok, there states with no speed limit*) or whatever and you don't travel by a speed of 240kmh's (*ehm, 144mph's*) and those buttons. don't know, a audi doesn't seem that complicated for me :stick: . mayby cause i grew up in those cars, don't know.
acutally i don't see more buttons there then usafull. radiostuff near the gearbox, for klimatisation there where normaly the radio is. the normal buttons for flashing warning light, and stuff like that and for the memory function of the seat (*ok, pretty sensleth*) and the window stuff. also the button to confiqurate the exterior rear-view mirror's. don'T know, but isn't that complication to me. audi, merceds, bmw are expenisve car's, no doubt. but vw isn't that expensive and there in there normal cars too not that many button's.

i don't get you wrong, but driving most american cars (*not all, corvetts are pretty good though, and some cadilac's etc.*) at normal travel speed (*for me*) is pretty hard cause everthink starts to vibret.

(*hope the text isn'T to wrong, i'm realy sorry for my bad english*)

http://www.discountpartcenter.com/photos/02-19-04-04-audi-a6.jpg

[[XC] leviathan18]

if you have an audi or bmw or mercedes or any german car with too much buttons just use the useful ones lights turn lights windows emergency lights horn radio and a/c that is all and if you want to take advantage of all the offers of your car just read the god damn manual

[trance565]

amd, ive never had a problem with anything vibrating in any american car, cept my brothers mustang will feel the bumps a bit more than normal because he lowered it and any lowered car will, my brother was cruising down the hi way at 150 once and i didnt notice till he told me, no rattling at all, and ur english is fine

leviathan, i dont like manuals, they take too long to read, do u read ur motherboard manual all the way thru? ur gfx card manual? sound card? mebbe ur cpu manual? the manual to ur tv? mebbe the one for ur new fridge? seriously, noone reads the manuals all the way thru, they test and figer things out themselves, takes longer, but that is what most ppl do

[I²K]

if you have an audi or bmw or mercedes or any german car with too much buttons just use the useful ones lights turn lights windows emergency lights horn radio and a/c that is all and if you want to take advantage of all the offers of your car just read the god damn manual

Cebit 2000 at Sixt. Explained all kind of BMW I-Drive functions in 30min to 3 japanses in english. The first time i saw this car was 60min ago :-)

[pancake]

NISSAN SKYLINE 350 GT think its called the Infiniti G35 in the u.s though. or if you dont mind a second hand car get a r34 skyline

first pic is r34 others r 350gt

[Crankster]

Time to veer back on topic all right?
A used Porsche boxter would really be your best bet, for 40k$ i figure you might get a 2k1 in the US. Drives very nice, is realiable and looks plenty good.

[Elisha]

afaik Japanese cars have surpassed most german cars in technology and luxury.
mid size luxury sedan rank as follow:
Infiniti
Acura
Mercedes
Lexus
BMW
Audi
Cadillac
Jaguar

the nicest american car i have driven recently is the Chev Malibu 2005 whic is actually a Saab. and most of the new Chevs are Daewoo now since they bought them over.

[notoriousformula]

Buy this one please: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4557633347&category=6212

:slobber: :slobber:

[amduser]

afaik Japanese cars have surpassed most german cars in technology and luxury.


ehm, for sure, just compare an audi a8/ bmw 7xx i(l)/d/mercedes s-class to the most luxury japanese cars, that would be (*compare mechanical stuff etc. like suspentions, engines, etc. not the monitor stuff etc. ,in that german cars never where the best*):

nissan president and toyota century (*stuff that saidly is only avaible in japan as much i know*)

..., ehm, or we can go higher bently (vw) / rolls-royce (bmw) / maybach (mercedes) and tell me know, what japanese car does top that :stick: .


amd, ive never had a problem with anything vibrating in any american car, cept my brothers mustang will feel the bumps a bit more than normal because he lowered it and any lowered car will, my brother was cruising down the hi way at 150 once and i didnt notice till he told me, no rattling at all, and ur english is fine


don't know, mayby in germany we get the junk cars of the american production, who knows. only chryslers and corvettes are good, but the rest :mad: .

[Elisha]

i said its better than most German cars.

[trance565]

don't know, mayby in germany we get the junk cars of the american production, who knows. only chryslers and corvettes are good, but the rest :mad: .

that might be part of it, as we get teh :banana::banana::banana::banana: of the stock of foreign cars, sigh, tuned down ferraris, porches, makes it pointless to buy :(

[DeltZ]

Volvo V70-R

155 electronically speed limited so can unlimit to about 170mph
estate car surprisingly...2.5 l engine with dual turbo i think..pretty cheap (compared to BMW)

except i hear in america Volvo's are womens cars...



(edit: if you have enough money go for a bugatti Veyron :P...250mph)

[amduser]

that might be part of it, as we get teh :banana::banana::banana::banana: of the stock of foreign cars, sigh, tuned down ferraris, porches, makes it pointless to buy :(


no way. just the suspenstions are awefull for example. ok for going a straight line there ok, but if there comes turns. anyway, you americans are quite strange in that case. bmw for example does extra for america install softer suspensions, then in the rest of the world :p: .

[STEvil]

:rolleyes:

I agree a lot are tuned for straight lines, but we happen to have a lot of them. We also happen to have a lot of corners, and a lot of cars tuned for them. I guess you could say we have a lot of places that arent even roads that we drive vehicles (cars and trucks) over and have vehicles specially tuned for them too.

If you look for only one type of driving, you're bound to only find one type of vehicle, get my drift?

[Gray Mole]

Just to clarify, as I haven't been on this thread for a while...

My comments about which cars I liked and disliked were specifically pertaining to convertibles...

Having worked on quite a few of them...Water leaks, rattles, poor fit, wind noise...

I didn't mean to dis someone's old peugeot that's done 5 million miles or anything, just that I'd not want a convertible 307 or 206, as I know what they're like...

And I was talking about a 3 cyl 'Smart' Car. That's a brand name, btw, and the 'roadster' model has a 3 Cyl Turbo engine. When I said the lotus pictured looked like one, I wasn't saying that Lotus made a 3 cyl turbo. If you have ever seen a Smart car roadster, you'll know what I mean.

I'm an Automotive Technician and electrician. Car's are what I do for a living.

I don't think I'm going to bother posting in here anymore, seems like getting flamed for making any comment about what car might be better or worse is all I can expect.

Good luck finding a car, and just make sure that you google for 'Faults' and 'Complaints' about the particular models you're interested in before you seriously look to buy, so that you're properly informed.

Regards,

Gray

[evetS-]

I say go bimmer!! X5 for SUV, and M3 for the convert. M5 is a little pricy, but V10 mm yummy. Or you can always go 7 Series. V12 :) Have fun with gas

[trance565]

asian cars in america arent really for strait lines, i have yet to see one, least STOCK, they for cornering, hence the stiff ass suspension, which feels like its gonna break my car when i go over speed bumps

[setyotomo]

i second the S2000 :D ... its fit

[EvlUndrWareNome]

Corvette Z-06

http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_on_3_15_2005_13_14_41/BR-z6-convert_01.jpg463a05ec-c3c5-4634-829d-e9927e5c7596Large.jpg

Now that is one bad ass car. And it will definately go soemwhere upon thesecond the petal hits the floor.

[[XC] leviathan18]

mazda rx8 sweet car no convertible but is sweet

[fatfreepork]

Fx35

[i found nemo]

30 bux

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mmckinst/fox/craig1.jpg
http://www.mk2cav.com/discus/messages/4/1263.jpg
http://alumni.imsa.edu/~sure/GM/brokencar.jpg
http://www.shafferlawfirm.com/images/accident.jpg
http://www.oak-park-journal.com/Stories2002/Car-Accident-SUV-Conv-Sebring-Harlem-Randolph-August-8-2002-07sm.JPG
^^^ gettin' it on

[fareastgq]

Well, u prob made your decision by now but, uh, whoever recommended any eclipse past 97', no no no, unless u want a multitude of mechanical probs with your front end and crappily made stock rims (which are so soft, they can bend like nothing). s2000 and x5 would have been my picks :)

[x3ro]

If you want a nice car go for either:

BMW 535d .. its the fastest diesel for sale does 0 to 60 in 6.x seconds
BMW M5 .. but the older model with the 5 liter V8 cuz it can smoke a ferarrie and porche
Mercedes C55 amg station.. space and fast as hell
BMW X5 .. nice suv
Volkswagen Touareq .. aswell nice suv

[gclg2000]

Corvette Z-06

http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_on_3_15_2005_13_14_41/BR-z6-convert_01.jpg463a05ec-c3c5-4634-829d-e9927e5c7596Large.jpg

Now that is one bad ass car. And it will definately go soemwhere upon thesecond the petal hits the floor.

They off the ZO6 in a convertable now? I thought it was hard top only??

z06 = best 50k'ish you can spend.

[illmatik]

vette is definately a great choice.. the pride of american sports cars, figuring the classic cobra or gt50 arent in your price range. having owned bmws and hondas, both are also excellent motors.. bit hot in vegas to drop tops though, maybe nighttime drivin ;)

[x3ro]

Nah when yu do above 200kmh in a vette everything starts to shake.. thats a bit the prob with american cars.... But not all.. But if you want good fast cars.. look for my for my post above.

Regards

[jaguarking11]

Nah when yu do above 200kmh in a vette everything starts to shake.. thats a bit the prob with american cars.... But not all.. But if you want good fast cars.. look for my for my post above.

Regards

Ur kidding rite? The new vette has a top end of 186mph stock and is capable of achiving it withought shaking at 120mph. Look around and you will find the vette kicking quite a fiew other cars arses.

Vettes are underated by allot of malicious people. Get one and experince it for yourself before splurging ignorant coments like that.

[ZX7891]

id get a C5 Z06 rather then a C6 as the C6s look like :banana::banana::banana::banana:

[Vapor]

I rather like the C6 look....C5 looks kinda bloated, IMO.

[jaguarking11]

If I had my way I would get a c4 grand sport. 215mph top speed and lti breathing fire to boot. And all from factory. But I also like the look fo the c4. I like the c6 better than the c5.

[NickK]

Ur kidding rite? The new vette has a top end of 186mph stock and is capable of achiving it withought shaking at 120mph. Look around and you will find the vette kicking quite a fiew other cars arses.

Vettes are underated by allot of malicious people. Get one and experince it for yourself before splurging ignorant coments like that.

Seen a new Vette at the Nurbergring (well actually Nordschleife). It's supprisingly does corner and does go very fast.. changed my opinon of vettes. Although it still grates to say it.

Also seen a Cayenne Turbo too which had no problems with the corners, kerbs or Kesslechen (a "hill" and a half).

[calcal]

another vote for honda s2000

did kazoo buy his car yet?

[fatfreepork]

since when did kazoo become a "he"

[Kazoo]

haven't noticed any strange changes lately -- nope, pretty sure I'm still female ;) :D

[placebo]

well, you ever ended up getting a new car? within your price range i would be very much leaning towards one of the following two choices...

SUV -> Lexus RX430 Hybrid
Convertible -> BMW 320/330d (depending on how fast you like it)

these are the new generation BMW diesel models. they have become enormously popular here in europe. their performance exceeds that of some gasoline engines. 320d is a 4 cylinder 2.0 liter engine. it has 170hp (pretty darn quick), available as a limo/coupe and/or convertible and needs ONLY 6.5liters on 100km (roughly 36 miles to the gallon). also, diesel is cheaper in the u.s., if i remember correctly. so, pretty darn sweet deal!

the 330d is a straight 6 cylinder, 3 liter, 238hp engine. very fast car considering that it still gets 30 miles to the gallon.

[illmatik]

well, you ever ended up getting a new car? within your price range i would be very much leaning towards one of the following two choices...

SUV -> Lexus RX430 Hybrid
Convertible -> BMW 320/330d (depending on how fast you like it)

these are the new generation BMW diesel models. they have become enormously popular here in europe. their performance exceeds that of some gasoline engines. 320d is a 4 cylinder 2.0 liter engine. it has 170hp (pretty darn quick), available as a limo/coupe and/or convertible and needs ONLY 6.5liters on 100km (roughly 36 miles to the gallon). also, diesel is cheaper in the u.s., if i remember correctly. so, pretty darn sweet deal!

the 330d is a straight 6 cylinder, 3 liter, 238hp engine. very fast car considering that it still gets 30 miles to the gallon.

Nice picks. The RX hybrid is nearly impossible to get here now, the waiting list has just crossed a year from what I've been told by all the dealers I've called. And much to my dismay, there aren't a whole lot of turbo diesels that are hitting the US market (yet). The 330d makes me drool as does the brand new jetta tdi.

I think the M3 could be a pretty good pick and readily available out where Kazoo is ;)

[placebo]

actually, this one would be very close to a Porsche 911. i know several germans who prefer the M3 over a standard porsche, as its faster and more fun to drive.

this type of car most certainly underlines the "image" of a tremendously succesfull sales agent! ;):D

check out the ebay auction -> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-M-Series-03-M-3-2003-BMW-M3-Convertible-SMG-19s-NAV-TV-DVD-CUSTOM-SOUND_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6131QQitemZ457223 1879QQrdZ1

BMW M3 2003, 3.2liters, 17k miles, should have 333hp. though, follow up and maintenace on these cars is rather high...

couple pictures to enjoy... :D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36537
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36538
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36539
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36540
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36541

[Kazoo]

No, haven't chosen one yet. One of these day I'll get around to it ;)

[[XC] leviathan18]

after you choose one you have to give all of us a ride :P

[calcal]

haven't noticed any strange changes lately -- nope, pretty sure I'm still female ;) :D
hahah i had no idea...my bad :rolleyes:

[amduser]

If you want a nice car go for either:

BMW 535d .. its the fastest diesel for sale does 0 to 60 in 6.x seconds


no, there faster and bigger ones :P. for exemple a audi a8 4.2L tdi or bmw 745d, but those cars are anyway to expensive.

[x3ro]

no, there faster and bigger ones :P. for exemple a audi a8 4.2L tdi or bmw 745d, but those cars are anyway to expensive.

Lol i thout that one was the fastest.. cuz it had 2 turbo's... one for low rpm range.. and one for high rpm range...

Regards

[placebo]

BMW M6 with launch control. It literally has a "launch control" button. You press it, the engine management automatically finds the fastest settings (Mainly HP and Torque) and will bring you up to 120km/h, as fast as possible. At 120km/h the driver "regains" control... ;):D

[MaxxxRacer]

she got a jeep.... eww..

[pissboy]

I dont think anyone mentioned the Ariel Atom mkII yet, and they've finally come to the states, woo. http://www.arielatom.com

[Spragoo]

Whats wrong with jeeps? I have a 2001 Cherokee, which is the last year that they were made by the way :p:

Its a stick and I love it, its light enough that what it seems to lack in torque doesn't really matter, atleast not to me, I've never gotten stuck anywhere.