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MaxxxRacer
06-10-2005, 12:07 AM
Well the illustrious :lol: :rofl: THG posted an article on watercooling. From the looks of it they spent about an hour skimming through XS before they wrote the article. I dunno maybe I'm a little biased towards XS but lmk what u guys think of it.

here is the linkage.

http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20050609/index.html

Sheograth
06-10-2005, 12:22 AM
Hmm I wonder why that looks so similar.... :p:

THG is loww..... :slapass:

Lestat HWL
06-10-2005, 03:16 AM
Brian, please send me an email stating the similarities of both articles and I will email THG to have this removed.

Thanks,

Lestat.

MaxxxRacer
06-10-2005, 03:18 AM
Will do. Thanks for the support Lestat!

jellybeard999
06-10-2005, 03:31 AM
Down with THG

i dont understand why anyone would listen to them anymore...

our little sheltered communities are far nicer :D

MaxxxRacer
06-10-2005, 03:34 AM
well in all honesty they provide good info. i mean if u read my guide and pump sticky and look at the hardware they use and what they say it seems as if they read my guide and pump guide and then went to write their article.

Cathar
06-10-2005, 03:36 AM
Got a link to the original article?

Would need to be a near word-for-word copy to say that it was plagiarised. The THG format looks similar to many articles on-line, although what is perhaps "odd" about it is the very US-centric perspective of water-cooling, given that THG is located in Germany with a thriving local water-cooling manufacturing market. It almost looks as if a US-based guest-writer wrote the article and submitted it to THG.

Still - having a similar format is not plagiarism.

jellybeard999
06-10-2005, 03:52 AM
well in all honesty they provide good info. i mean if u read my guide and pump sticky and look at the hardware they use and what they say it seems as if they read my guide and pump guide and then went to write their article.

i can honestly say i havent found any of their reviews, benchmarks, round ups etc usefull... the only thing ive found them of use is a headline, which always seems better covered elsewhere :rolleyes:


This includes summarizing, paraphrasing, copying, or translating words, ideas, artworks, audio, video, computer programs, statistical data, or any other creative work, without proper attribution.

Hmmm.... anything quoted with no reference etc ? I know of quides ive read that some (such as those here), not being disrespectful as its due to location, are of no use in the UK, such as speccing non UK existant Weapon rads etc ... and theyve been linked to from elsewhere...

BRiT
06-10-2005, 04:02 AM
I'm amazed at how large THG is despite the fact their worthiness ended in the late 90's.

MaxxxRacer
06-10-2005, 04:35 AM
XS has now become the offical THG bashing site now.. kinda funny and sad at the same time.

Cathar I know that its not word for ford but u do have to see how odd it is.. the very american viewpoint of the article (normally THG goes for the euro watercoolign companies) and its not their normal style of writing i dont think.

Bloody_Sorcerer
06-10-2005, 05:42 AM
I vowed never to go there again after they declared everything slower than 3 GHz subpar for gaming, but i s'pose i could go there for some good old fashioned bashing :)

Craig
06-10-2005, 05:43 AM
Have to agree with Cathar Maxxx, a article written based on much the same generally available info is going to always look a lot like others on the same topic.

A person who reads consistently at any number of good US sites would end up with the same info. Pro Cooling, XS, XR are just 3 such examples & OCAU is a aussie site with good info as well. I know of one good site in Uk as well, but darned if I can remember it's name at this moment.

I also note a couple little things like his mention of separate blocks for the vid card memory chips if such is desired. Or how's about tupperware for a shroud........I don't see those two bits of info mentioned much here.... And nobody reading here would have mentioned Koollance in a positive tone.

Just these 3 items, to me at least, show he didn't just copy that article off of any site I know off.

Only so many ways to express the same thoughts, or nearly the same thoughts. Shocking thing is that THG had that good of a article on water rigging. Perhaps there is hope after all that some of the BS often spread in regards to water rigs is finally fadding away a bit.

MaxxxRacer
06-10-2005, 05:51 AM
I know what ur saying craig. (didnt see the koolance reference though).

I do agree with you that it is the best watercooling article THG has actually put up. I think his mention of seperate blocks for the video card memory and cpu was refering to using air cooling on the memory. atleast i think so. espcially consiedering the reviewer was using air cooled heatinks on teh ram. that and there are only a few memory sinks in existence and u have to search high and low to find them.

Bloody_Sorcerer
06-10-2005, 10:44 AM
i read that article and now have a bit more respect for THG. Normally, watercooling reviews are revolting, praising horrible parts. At least they reccommended good parts and pumps.

totensiebush
06-10-2005, 05:01 PM
XS has now become the offical THG bashing site now.. kinda funny and sad at the same time.
the entire internet has become the official THG bashing site - have you seen anyone say anything positive about them recently?

bfx
06-10-2005, 06:52 PM
I can remember when THG was very high on the list of net info resources for computers. Few, if any ads or sponsered links - good direct performance comparisons, etc.

During that time I bought several mb's as a result of those tests and none disappointed.

But time passes, commercialism creeps in, etc.

I'll still go there for mb info - but mainly for the closeups of a mb.

As for the w/c article itself - perhaps it should have been called DIY Water Cooling 001 instead. I'm a complete noob to water cooling but the article was very basic IMHO.

Even so it's past time for sites like THG to cover w/c.

bfx

MaxxxRacer
06-10-2005, 08:04 PM
well bfx the article was geared to users who dont even know what watercooling is i think. its meant for ubernoobs.. which is mainly who reads THG.. its a decent guess that if ur a contributing member to XS that you are not ubernoob. and if you are it wil quickly change if they want it to.

racinjimy
06-14-2005, 06:45 AM
overall a very basic intro to WC

fairly well written other than the screw up regarding GPU blocks........that was confusing

sounds like the writer did research around the various WC forums and wrote a decent article although your article Maxxx is much better written and comprehensive :clap:

MaxxxRacer
06-14-2005, 07:04 AM
thanks for the kind works racin.

Der_KHAN
06-14-2005, 01:51 PM
:kissbutt:

... :hehe: