Dothan/chilly1container/ln2

[k|ngp|n]

Had my first ln2 benching session today. Overall it went pretty well. 10L lasted me about 3hrs with extras left over.
pics:
$20.00 for 10 litres of ln2 and $100.00 deposit on cc for the dewar.
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/96936959.jpg

setup:
chilly1 DI/ln2 container
p4p800se / ct-479 / pent M 760
hyperx 3200bh-5/ ocz booster/ OCZ 600watt psu
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/96936962.jpg

Not the prettiest mount, but it works :) I'm working on a custom test bed with an arc/press over the mobo/chip just like the japs use soon. IMO, that is the best setup for ln2. No need for hold-downs and very easy to setup. The container will be machined out of a solid 3in x 9in copper block.
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/95840129.jpg


http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/96952956.jpg

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/96952960.jpg

Didnt get too much icier than this really until I went below -150c or so. I think the fans and ariflow over the the top half of the board helped. If I let the temps rise to around -100c under load, any ice that formed would slowly go away.
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/96952841.jpg


http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/96941237.jpg

and some benches:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/96933523.jpg

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/96933517.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=18232

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/96935705.jpg

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/96933532.jpg

Overall I was happy with the results and chillys container worked great with 1/2 inch closed cell. Nothing boiled over ever and I inuslated socket area good enough to bench for 2-3 hrs straight. To prep mobo, I taped up all peripheral slots and connectors and sprayed front and back of mobo with clear laquer spray.
These runs were to get a feel for the cooling power of ln2 and to develop the "touch" with pouring/maintaining cetain temps. Either this chip or the mobo didnt like anything lower than -165c or so. When I got to -180c on the base of the container, the rig just shutoff and wouldnt come back on until the base temps got up to -150c. This behavior repeated itself everytime it got too cold(below -165c). Didn't matter what vcore.
I have a better clocking 760 here along with a fully modded p4c800-e which should get me into the 21's for 1mpi at these clocks and maybe 33.9* or better for pifast. With better clocks on my other dothan chip who knows.... Next round on friday, can't wait :). I'm so hooked on ln2.

[conrad.maranan]

Are you using CO2 to ward off condensation, or just the lacquer spray? I'd like to see how well you do with the other 760. :toast:

[k|ngp|n]

Are you using CO2 to ward off condensation, or just the lacquer spray? I'd like to see how well you do with the other 760. :toast:

Nope. Just sprayed it pretty good with the laquer spray. It didnt get too icy until temps got lower than -165c
This chip maxed out at 3.15ghz on DI so 250 mhz gain going from -68c to -168c, which is the temp that those benches were run at.

[conrad.maranan]

I see. Well, keep us posted with your next run. I'd like to see you do better than this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=865546#post865546). ;)

[k|ngp|n]

I see. Well, keep us posted with your next run. I'd like to see you do better than this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=865546#post865546). ;)

hehe....i will try :P
Those guys are sick...ln2 pro's.

[charlie]

great work!!!!!

:toast:

[Jort]

very nice ln² action so far k|ngp|n

ln² is not for beginners thats for sure, i am not pointing to you if you think that

[GoriLLakoS]

Can you please show us a photo over the ln2 can?

[Waus-mod]

Verry nice kingpin :D the dothans are nice stuff to play with

[k|ngp|n]

thanx guys...I figured if I could make it through my first ln2 session without killing any hardware, it would be a sucess.
The only thing that started to wear on me towards the end of the session, was having to pick up the dewar to pour into the buffer container. That is where I was thinking something with a delivery system on it would be much nicer.
Just put thermos under spout and turn the valve :)
Like this...kinda pricey though:
http://cryodewars.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=33&products_id=38&osCsid=e73021a14c38d4d426e1513ba8f20d22

Or how about this dream with the automated delivery and monitoring software in windows :) $$$$$:
http://www.norhof.com/

[Unseen]

Very nice bro :) I am hooked to ln2 too...

[k|ngp|n]

Can you please show us a photo over the ln2 can?

I have a some more pics in my camera with the system running and the mobo and container a little frosty I will upload later, but I didnt go crazy with the camera cuz I was too focused on benching and pouring. Next session, I was thinking of having a friend take some vid clips of the runs and maybe some fun freezing and smashing computer stuff afterwards :)

[Jort]

or blowing some bottle's :banana: :banana: :banana:

[Special_K]

erm, hello? is that safe to have such a tall pipe on such an unstable base?

if that thing gets knocked accidentally, you are in serious trouble

SAFETY FIRST KIDS

[Jort]

i don't think you have to say that to us, we are not kids.
we know whats on stake, hardware etc.
about the stability i give my word on it, its VERY stable;)

[nCrusader]

Very nice results! :thumbsup:
GO Intel! :banana:

[k|ngp|n]

erm, hello? is that safe to have such a tall pipe on such an unstable base?

if that thing gets knocked accidentally, you are in serious trouble

SAFETY FIRST KIDS

LOL.....wtf are you talking about?? Your not serious right? :P

[Jort]

maybe its a oversafety parent :slap:


kingpin when is your next run? :clap:

[k|ngp|n]

maybe its a oversafety parent :slap:


kingpin when is your next run? :clap:

Tomorrow or friday if I can get the time, but for sure by this weekend.

[gbglassen]

very nice Kingpin! love your insulation/holdown

[harleybro]

very nice k|ngp|n. Lookin on runnin LN2 within the next few weeks myself. How do you transfer it from the large container to the tube?

[k|ngp|n]

I pick up the dewar and pour it into either the styrofoam cup or the thermos. Then pour into the cpu container using that. A bit tougher to do by yourself....just make sure you secure the cup/thermos before pouring into it. You can see in the pic I used a box with cutouts to hold my buffer containers(styro cup and thermos).

[k|ngp|n]

1st 3d session w/ln2 on dothan went pretty well.
I ran the chip at 254x13(this chip is capable of 3d'ing at 262x13 or more tho)
Used modded chilly1 gpu container + DI for x850xtpe agp card.
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/98554762.jpg

Almost 8700 points in 05'.
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/98552039.jpg

Cpu at 3400mhz+ and x850 on ln2 is next :). Gonna shoot for breaking OPP's #1 spot with ati card for 3dmark 05'. Ln2 on the card along with 50-60mhz core clocks should do it.
I did manage to get #1 spot with single ATI card in AM3 though.
At 262-265x13 with higher card clocks, #1 overall may be possible.
18k+ cpu score.... lol
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1026738557
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/98552032.jpg
Look at the dothan sitting pretty in sli land.

Benching resumes tommorrow on 05', am3, and 03'.
01' wont be until this weekend prolly.

[mikead_99]

Wow k|ngp|n, good stuff! lol, and I was happy with my 106k sitting in SLI land. It looks like '05 is about to take a beating. :toast:

Just curious, what did DI on the X850 gain you over phase? Or have you done that compare? Something I've tossed around doing myself, but also thinking something with more capacity than a stock MachI on the gfx might be all I do. Gotta start working on a x2 gfx solution soon enough anyway.

[Bennah]

Good work there Kingpin.

Cant wait to see what the combo does in 3D 01 :D

[twilius_basic]

Good work there Kingpin.

Cant wait to see what the combo does in 3D 01 :D

Ditto. Very cool stuff, I love how you're using 2x Chilly units in conjunction :D I'd love to have one of his GPU units. What temps is that X850 hitting under load?

Also, since I haven't seen anyone messing with one until now, I was wondering how the AGP version of X850 clocks (what with the bridge chip and all....)

Looks like it clocks OK :up:

Good job dude, keep on running.

Oh yeah, one more Q: how full do you keep the CPU container when benching? Like 2-3 inches of LN2 in the bottom?

[charlie]

Hmmmm... just amazing.
That Dothan power is just nasty.
I should have new 750 on Thurs, then I'll be back in the game :D

C

[Kunaak]

jesus, look at that CPU score in Aquamark.... thats just insane :)

[harleybro]

Very nice runs! Lookin forward to more results. :toast:

[k|ngp|n]

Wow k|ngp|n, good stuff! lol, and I was happy with my 106k sitting in SLI land. It looks like '05 is about to take a beating. :toast:

Just curious, what did DI on the X850 gain you over phase? Or have you done that compare? Something I've tossed around doing myself, but also thinking something with more capacity than a stock MachI on the gfx might be all I do. Gotta start working on a x2 gfx solution soon enough anyway.

Never ran it on reg phase. Go DI for sure on the card. I wouldnt use anything less.


Good work there Kingpin.

Cant wait to see what the combo does in 3D 01 :D

I was at 16.6k with 12c water on the card and the cpu at only 2.6ghz on ct-479 hsf and no bus speed. I think 01' score is going to be great.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3992024


Ditto. Very cool stuff, I love how you're using 2x Chilly units in conjunction :D I'd love to have one of his GPU units. What temps is that X850 hitting under load?

Oh yeah, one more Q: how full do you keep the CPU container when benching? Like 2-3 inches of LN2 in the bottom?

Look in the pic :) On DI with chilly's gpu container they are -68c idle,-62c by the end of the last test in 05'. All of my temps are now taken from the base of the evap. (I drilled out hole for temps probes) and if I keep the cpu container full of ln2, the temps dont budge from -184c, but you cant always do that if the hardware doesnt want to run that cold. This is where a container with much more mass will come in handy I believe. It will be much easier to maintain temps for longer during bench runs wihtout having to pour as much.


Hmmmm... just amazing.
That Dothan power is just nasty.
I should have new 750 on Thurs, then I'll be back in the game :D

C
Looking forward to see what you can do with it charlie.

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

x850 AGP isn't bridged, its AGP8x native.

[charlie]

updates??

[k|ngp|n]

Havent had much time to do alot of 3d yet :(
When I have, it's been hell with condensation. The weather is nasty. 85f+ and 80%+ humidity. Horrible benching weather indeed. Just wont let up.
This chip can 3d now at almost 3400mhz with 1.55v/ln2 via vreg mod only.
Here is some 01' action with default x800xtpe clocks, 512mb bh5 1:1@ 5-2-2-2, and win 2k.
LL hit 999 fps during test :) Dothan looks to be strong in lobbies and cars.
Drag and nature seem to be slower than fx clock for clock. Spending some time getting a good test order down to boost it strengths and minimize where it lags might not be a bad idea. Test order done here was same as for fx: dl,ll,ch, dh,lh,n,cl
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/99284334.jpg

[[XC] moddolicous]

Whats your max suicide shot??? Hopefully you can tweak stuff a little more and get 3.7 SPI stable. Also, try to break 200fps for car chase high. If I remember right, no one has ever done it. Pedro & Ricky got like 195. Good job soo far, but that chip definetly has something left.

[Bennah]

3700MHz is a little optimistic dont you think, no offense to Kingpin and all...

[k|ngp|n]

Whats your max suicide shot??? Hopefully you can tweak stuff a little more and get 3.7 SPI stable. Also, try to break 200fps for car chase high. If I remember right, no one has ever done it. Pedro & Ricky got like 195. Good job soo far, but that chip definetly has something left.

No offense meant by this to you or anyone else that does suicide screenshots... but I never bother with them. I could care less that this chip can boot into windows at 3.5ghz. Windows stable screenshots are lame IMO and dont show anything really, at 4ghz or 6ghz or whatever :). I like to bench. I would rather see a sp1m or pifast at 3.4, then a screenshot at 3.5 or higher. Thats just me. Screenshots seem to be the rage around here as of late, so I am definitely not in the majority point of view on that I'm sure.
I hope I dont alienate myself from anyone with these comments, it just how I feel. Some peeps think sp1m is lame, but I love it. Just another opinion, thats all.

3.7 for this chip is prolly a stretch. 3.5-3.6 maybe with vid - vss mod. I'll be running the dothan again today on the adapter with 477 pins lol. I busted a pin off of it yesterday when I broke the rig down to dry it out. It was one of the outside pins. Hehe, it can still post and run pi at stock speeds, so the chip/adapter will prolly be fine :) We'll see. I thought my p4c was dead too, but she came back to life last night.

[k|ngp|n]

Lots of good updates from tonight. I ran out of ln2, otherwise Opp's single card 05' score would be mine :) Also weak cpu clocks here. I wanted to focus on clocking the card and not have to worry about maintaining temps in the cpu tube, so I ran it on DI. If cpu was at @3400mhz or so on this run, the score would have been been around 91** maybe 9200. Last run crashed out right before I got my score @850/694. I had to watch in horror as my temps rose above -100c, and there was nothing I could do about it lol.
I was shaking the hell out of the container upside down, trying to get the last few drops out.
system @ 258x12 5-2-2-2 DI -70c
card@ -120c
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/99487853.jpg

Also ran some 03' with the cpu clocks at a whopping 200x15.. lol
840/691 trp5 on the card:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/99487857.jpg
Shamino, I'm coming for ya'....with 3400mhz on the cpu and decent bus speed on the ram, along with same card clocks maybe 20k+?

Got my sp1m a little lower too with some better tweaking :). I'm still an intel n00b though. This chip just doesnt want to give me 3450 with ln2.
261x13 5-2-2-2
winxp
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/99487856.jpg

All this with a broken off pin on the adapter...I thought for sure it was toast. Guess not.

[charlie]

nice... really nice.

[bachus_anonym]

@ k|ngp|n

Great benching, man! ...and no, you're not alone about "suicide-shots" :) I'm with you and can sign wherever with both my hands and feet :D

Looks like few XSers already got the bug and love their Dothans! I know that 32M is a stretch when running on LN2, but next time you refill your dewar - can you try it and show those Japs what XS can do? ---> Holicho's 32M ranking (http://holicho.lib.net/pi3355/pi3355.htm). I know that Italians already beat Tom, but there's not too many Dothans in there.

Can wait to see more, :thumbsup:

[k|ngp|n]

Charlie, these x850xtpe agp's are very nice card's. I might have gotten a freak though. I usually have bad luck with cards.

[k|ngp|n]

@ k|ngp|n

Great benching, man! ...and no, you're not alone about "suicide-shots" :) I'm with you and can sign wherever with both my hands and feet :D

Looks like few XSers already got the bug and love their Dothans! I know that 32M is a stretch when running on LN2, but next time you refill your dewar - can you try it and show those Japs what XS can do? ---> Holicho's 32M ranking (http://holicho.lib.net/pi3355/pi3355.htm). I know that Italians already beat Tom, but there's not too many Dothans in there.

Can wait to see more, :thumbsup:

Thanx man. Maybe when im done with my 3d runs, I will throw the pci card in and give it a shot... Japs are crazy good at pi though :P

[justwOo]

Great results, look forward to seeing more! :)

[harleybro]

Very awesome k|ngp|n! Good show. :toast: :toast: Bet you are chomping at the bit to run dual cards. ;)

[Waus-mod]

Still love it to watch you work kingpin :D

[k|ngp|n]

Thanx guys....definitely not done yet. Finished benching early this morning around 4:00am. It's now 9:00am and I'm on my way to get more ln2 already.
Obsession indeed :) Hoping to run the card closer to 900 core today with the cpu @max clocks.

[harleybro]

Thanx guys....definitely not done yet. Finished benching early this morning around 4:00am. It's now 9:00am and I'm on my way to get more ln2 already.
Obsession indeed :) Hoping to run the card closer to 900 core today with the cpu @max clocks.
Sounds like your going for #1 all the way around. ;) Good luck!!!!

[conrad.maranan]

Excellent work, k|ngp|n. :toast:
What's your VGPU at for that core speed?

[k|ngp|n]

Excellent work, k|ngp|n. :toast:
What's your VGPU at for that core speed?

1.84-1.86v

[charlie]

kingpin,
I'm stuck at about 3106mHz superPi 1M stable... with 1.55v
Is that about right? I mean is it right for the volts? I have the wires solderred for the mods, I'm just looking for 50k VR's... did you do the Vdroop too?
So, using BH5-UTT (not very good) I got to about 13 x 239, 1:1, 2-2-2 and hit 23.8s at 3106mHz.

OH and MBM shows my CPU temp stuck at -112C when the evap's like -65C... is it similar to yours??


C

[k|ngp|n]

The darkside has taken my soul :shock:

Oppainter's single card score in 05' and 03' are history.
My dothan rig is now #1 03' ati card and #2 05' ati card
dothan@3350 with x850xtpe@852/694 1.84v/2.22v -120c
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/99606402.jpg

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/99606392.jpg

These results should get in the 3dforum where they belong ...lol. Not many come in here ever.

With 2v on the core, I should be able to take a run at macci's/ATI's 9'500 single card score. SO much left in this card still :)

How about almost 115k in AM3. #1 ati card by a long shot and #11 overall.
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7247576/99606774.jpg

Might be able to take #1 overall at around 118k AM3 next benching session. 20k on 03' should fly too.



kingpin,
I'm stuck at about 3106mHz superPi 1M stable... with 1.55v
Is that about right? I mean is it right for the volts? I have the wires solderred for the mods, I'm just looking for 50k VR's... did you do the Vdroop too?
So, using BH5-UTT (not very good) I got to about 13 x 239, 1:1, 2-2-2 and hit 23.8s at 3106mHz.

OH and MBM shows my CPU temp stuck at -112C when the evap's like -65C... is it similar to yours??

C

That sounds about right charlie. My best 760 didnt like any more than 1.58v or so on DI..and it maxed around 3100 with almost same temps as yours. Give it some ln2 and you will gain around 250mhz or more. I did do all the mods on all my p4* mobos..... vcore(three diff ways now),droop, and agp.

[harleybro]

:slobber: :slobber: Awesome kingpin! :banana: :toast: :banana: So ya postin these over in 3D where they should be? I am gonna go ahead and throw ya in the non-SLI thread I started. Congrats can't wait to see more.

[twilius_basic]

You're ripping it up King, congrats :toast:
I gotta say, it's a lot of fun living vicariously through your benching exploits :D Thanks for keeping us updated.

I'm impressed how well you're doing with GPU on LN2. From what I've heard that is a tricky thing to get ahold of....

And that card is a good clocker, mem@691mhz+ at 2.22v :shock:

Any plans for 2001?

[k|ngp|n]

:slobber: :slobber: Awesome kingpin! :banana: :toast: :banana: So ya postin these over in 3D where they should be? I am gonna go ahead and throw ya in the non-SLI thread I started. Congrats can't wait to see more.

Thanx again man. Proper place is prolly 3d forum. I just wasnt sure how far the rig would go. This started out as my first ln2 session with some sp runs and has turned into a monster.


You're ripping it up King, congrats :toast:
I gotta say, it's a lot of fun living vicariously through your benching exploits :D Thanks for keeping us updated.

I'm impressed how well you're doing with GPU on LN2. From what I've heard that is a tricky thing to get ahold of....

And that card is a good clocker, mem@691mhz+ at 2.22v :shock:

Any plans for 2001?
ln2 is not easy by no means. The card does not like to go much lower than -145c with my core voltage. It is pretty tricky to keep it between -115c and -130c during benches under load. All that while maintaining temps in the cpu tube as well. Gotta stay on top of things. Makes cascade benching seem like a walk in the park.
I have huge plans for 01' :) as that is where most of the orb crushing power of the dothan will be evident. Once I am done with x850 benching, it's time for some x800xtpe agp ln2 action for 01'. x850 is weak for 01' 43k+ shouldn't be too hard.

[charlie]

I'm simply in awe. This is truly a spectacular display of the Dothan power!!!

And I don't know how you deal with the condensation... I noticed even my -65c makes even the underside of my ct-479 sweat...
And how in the world do you bench with 2 hands???

C

[[XC] moddolicous]

Wow, nice kingpin. As far as my 3.7 comment, I always shoot high, so even if it doesn’t make it at least I'll be close (usually). I never look for a realistic clock, just something that could be possible. BTW, with your chip @ 3.5 and your GPU @ 900, I think you'll definitely take down Macci's single card record.

[k|ngp|n]

Working on cpu clocks all night....
Got this chip stable for pi and pifast at almost 3500mhz. 3486 passes with 14 multi. Here are some updated pi and pifast scores. Getting alot better at tweaking this whore too.
Finally made 21sec club for superpi 1m.
This was on winxp though, 2k3server will give better scores at same clocks.
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7601091/99964756.jpg

Also scored 33.61 sec for pifast, and beat my old personal record that was with an fx55@3581 that scored 33.73:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7601091/99964763.jpg

For compare, here was my old personal record with fx55/neo2/same ram(hyperx3200 bh5)/winxp and -85c temps:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/2517856/80687093.jpg
With the right tweaking, Dothan looks to be faster even at 130mhz less clocks :P

[conrad.maranan]

Amazing results, bro. :toast:

[justwOo]

Congratulations on entering the 21s club... Is it true you get a porsche when you join? :stick:

[k|ngp|n]

Congratulations on entering the 21s club... Is it true you get a porsche when you join? :stick:

God I hope so :)

[bob(nz)]

Dedication to the cause - nice work :thumbsup:

[k|ngp|n]

All set to give it another go, and my p4c800 is dead :(
Got 20 litres of ln2 sitting here, board won't post. Guess I used up all nine of its live's. No store has p4c800 locally, only p4p's. I have one shot of getting one later, otherwise no benching this weekend. bummer...

[harleybro]

Aww that sucks kingpin. Could express that LN2 up my way. I'll put it to good use. ;) What happened to the board? Condensation?

[afireinside]

That sucks man :( How much faster is the P4C over the P4P? And how long is the ln2 good for before its all gone?

[k|ngp|n]

yeah I know it blows. That was a great board too :(
I'm sure it was condensation because I got lazy and didnt spray that mobo with laquer....water damage around socket area.
Good news is I have one of the early revision p4c800's here now, that I stole back from a build I did almost 2 yrs ago..lol. These are supposed to clock nicely on fsb's, so we'll see. I'm modding it now. Be benching tommorrow for sure. The ln2 will still almost all be there. Depending on the quality of your container, the evap rate is low. About 1% day with dewars that I have.

[NiCKE^]

Nice results k|ngp|n! Congrats to the 21s one :D

[harleybro]

Lookin forward to your scores. :clap: Stuck in the 2d word for tonight myself. Looks like my 2nd X850 bit the dust. My other am tryin to get RMA'd. Both my dice coolers for gpu touch a cap on my X600 and freeze it. :( These results your gettin are really making me think to give intel a try. :hitself:

[[XC] moddolicous]

Sry to hear about your board. Make sure to take your time and spray the whole board over with laquer. Triple check the mods, the mounting, and the insulation. We cant have any more screwups.

[sang]

excellent infos here.Keep this thread alive.
And good luck on your 2k1 run man :toast:

[k|ngp|n]

Here is my new baby :P

Holds 30 litres of ln2, and has a self pressurizing spout for flowing it. Just turn the valve, and the nitrogen flows like water out of a faucet.
The guy at the welding/medical supply where I have been getting my ln2, built the head custom for me. This will make it much easier for me to bench on my own as it can be a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: to bend over 15,000 times during one bench session to pour ln2 from the 10 litre dewar....all while trying to overclock cpu and gpu. Also, he said that the ln2 will last much longer in this type container/setup. I can't wait to use it next session. Dude gave me a killer deal on it too. Cascade eater at a 1/4th of the price.
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7601091/100444971.jpg

[Charles Wirth]

Sweet dewer, nice score!

[mrlobber]

Damn, that Dothan looks like an ancient beast just resurrected to modern times with all its hellish power :D

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[k|ngp|n]

Getting better clocks out of this chip....here is a pi with weak bus speed,14x, and on win2k:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/1324330/7601091/100679318.jpg

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That dewar is trick. Kingpin, you think that guy could fab up another dewar like that and ship it north?

[k|ngp|n]

That dewar is trick. Kingpin, you think that guy could fab up another dewar like that and ship it north?

I'll talk to him and see if he can hook it up :P.