The San Diego OC DISCUSSION Thread

[Colin]

http://members.lycos.co.uk/csmo/Computer/Processors/A64%203700/piFast.gif

http://members.lycos.co.uk/csmo/Computer/Processors/A64%203700/SuperPi_All.gif

I noticed that I cannot clock my memory as high with the 3700+ compared to the CAA2C 3500+, did you guys notice the same thing? My Mushkin memory can do around 260 @ 1.5-2-2-5 with the 3500+ but can only do 246 with the 3700+. :(

[mrlobber]

I noticed that I cannot clock my memory as high with the 3700+ compared to the CAA2C 3500+, did you guys notice the same thing? My Mushkin memory can do around 260 @ 1.5-2-2-5 with the 3500+ but can only do 246 with the 3700+. :(

I know at least one person which is able to run his TCCD higher than before on Sandy than on a Winny... Colin, probably some of the timing values not quite right... but don't ask me for the correct ones :D Refer to kakaroto's DDR600 guide, I think, he has added some info on TCCD and San Diego memory controller relations there...

[chefnr1]

pifast with very tight timings 1,5-2-2-3 ,read preamble 4,5
http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload1/pifast8.jpg

[Colin]

I know at least one person which is able to run his TCCD higher than before on Sandy than on a Winny... Colin, probably some of the timing values not quite right... but don't ask me for the correct ones :D Refer to kakaroto's DDR600 guide, I think, he has added some info on TCCD and San Diego memory controller relations there...
Cheers, thanks for letting me know. I will definitely check out the guide! :D

[Asheis]

Finally got my rig up! (FX55 SD)

Hopefully will have some screen shots up once I get my new PS (the one I ordered just didn't have enough... POWA! lol, anyway..

I did manage a nice 3.1ghz very stable (VapoLS), and a 10,000 3dMARK05 before things went wrong >.<

The graphics cards are sucking the most power, I think.

[Charles Wirth]

FX 57 has cold boot problem, I am helping setup one on phase change. beyond ~-20c no boot :(

Hopefully I am wrong but right now it looks like a problem for this chip.

[BMORIN]

It makes no sense that the other 90nm SanDiego's can handle -50c+ but this one can't handle -20c. I wonder if it's just THAT chip? Interested to see results with this thing.

[easypanic]

kakaroto had one sd3700+ that could handle -20°c too ;)

[koei]

CABGE 515SPMW @ 310x10 1.63v Prime stable. It can go higher but I wan't to keep RAM at full capacity. This will be 24x7 setting. Running on MachII GT -27C idle.

[babyelf]

hey guys.. jsut wondering whether is there a week number to look out for the san diegos?

[fagin]

Originally Posted by Colin:I noticed that I cannot clock my memory as high with the 3700+ compared to the CAA2C 3500+, did you guys notice the same thing? My Mushkin memory can do around 260 @ 1.5-2-2-5 with the 3500+ but can only do 246 with the 3700+.

Try using a 10.5 multiplier (yes I know it's not actually 10.5) It allowed me to clock my BH6 exactly the same as on my previous 3500s.

Before I was limited to 240 - now 260.

[esdee]

FX 57 has cold boot problem, I am helping setup one on phase change. beyond ~-20c no boot :(

Hopefully I am wrong but right now it looks like a problem for this chip.

just what i didn't want to hear

[babyelf]

anyone know?

is there a good week to look out for? =/

[mrlobber]

anyone know?

is there a good week to look out for? =/

Heh, try to avoid 0516WPAW. Under air it quite sucks. Then had it under dry ice this weekend. Maximum I was able to boot to Windows was 3130 Mhz @ -37C. Built in memtest run also at 3300 Mhz, though (I suspect some problems with my mobo as well, but anyway).

Btw, any information on which steppings are sent out right now? Haven't seen much 0517 and later San Diegos...

[coop]

There are better steppings but if you can get them cold there are pretty good .. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=904705#post904705 and 3.063Ghz here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=904700#post904700

[fareastgq]

I have a 05-17, about 2750 on 1.45 volts in bios. I did a suicide of @ 2960 at 1.7, I didn't want to do more because of stock HS, hehe. On water I would say 24/7 prob = 2.8, on phase or colder who knows, 3.2-3.5? I'll do some real testing and post it in the offical OC thread with some screenies. Also, the stupid heat spreader is on also, making the chip much hotter than what it should be, I suspect amd is using that plastic goo crap now under the spreader instead of nice thermal paste, I will be performing some sugery when the water gets here, hehe.

[coop]

Your comment on the goo reminded me of something. I was doing some things while Smartguardian was on the screen, and every task from opening folders or internet to doing Pi, caused the cpu temp to soar momentarily then almost instantly as the task was done returned to normal. I did not know if that was accurate to what was happening or just picking up extra voltage somewhere while the task was being performed.

[mrlobber]

Your comment on the goo reminded me of something. I was doing some things while Smartguardian was on the screen, and every task from opening folders or internet to doing Pi, caused the cpu temp to soar momentarily then almost instantly as the task was done returned to normal. I did not know if that was accurate to what was happening or just picking up extra voltage somewhere while the task was being performed.

When under dry ice, I observed the same - temperature jumps at about 10-12 C. At full load, however, the temps remained the same. Weird.

[babyelf]

i'm getting a san diego.. it's being shipped over to the supplier now.. might get to choose one..

that 0516 WPAW looks nice..

so there's no really a good one to look out for right now?

u think the 0517 will be the same as the venice's 0517 lol.. i doubt it.. hmm

[fareastgq]

yes try to get a 05-17, every one I have seen has had good results so far.

[babyelf]

for san diego? mr. rock lee? :p

so it's the same like the venice?

[Crazykooter]

I have one of the 1st SD 3700's which is week 15 and I am at 2904 mhz @ 1.62 vcore 100%. So I think the earlier version it is the better.

[babyelf]

hmm the results are pretty mixed up at the moment.. i'll just have to ask for the list of stepping he have when it arrives.. then choose one that i think will be the best =/

PMW or PAW at least

[fareastgq]

for san diego? mr. rock lee? :p

so it's the same like the venice?

It would seem so, did u check out the officail oc'ing thread yet? pick a high oc stepping or 2 and hope he has it, heh.

[babyelf]

yea.. but it seems like all the results are abit mixed up =/

i'm hoping for a 3ghz one with my water :p like my venice.. :D

[Crazykooter]

yea.. but it seems like all the results are abit mixed up =/

i'm hoping for a 3ghz one with my water :p like my venice.. :D
Thats gonna be a tall order since I have only seen one that will do 3ghz on water. I can get to 2970 on water but not 100 stable. 3dmark and what not but it wont prime or SuperPI.

[babyelf]

hehe.. well.. at least let me dream abit right? :P

it's coming soon.. so will be able to choose later on

[BMORIN]

Week 15 seems to be a great week. I've tried two other weeks (one earlier & one later) that didn't even compare.

[babyelf]

thnx for the info BMORIN.. i'll be keeping an eye for it :)

but at least i have to get PMW or PAW.. i think they are the best in the batch

[Dumo]

Anyone with this SD stepping.....Never saw any that start with a Letter on serial#......
http://img291.echo.cx/img291/3414/screenshot0741kk.jpg

[irenic]

anyone knows whether this stepping is good or not ? cabge 0516 tpaw.. thx :)

[fareastgq]

Hi everyone, I would like to start an experiment and need everyone who has a sandeigo's help, with the recent discussion in this thread of sandiego core temps jumping, it would be good if we found out what the heck was going on with these cores. We need to know if A: they are just like that, reguardless of heat spreader, or B: it's proportionally due to the heat spreader. Mainly, this is what I need from you all.

1. Using any form of temp monitoring, ie : smart guardian, temp prob etc. Simply run the 1 minute bench of super pi, make sure u can see the temp go up and down, record your start temp, then record your highest temp during the bench.

2. State whether u have a heat spreader or not.

Your form of cooling does not matter, as the point of this is to see how much the heat spreader makes temps go up while doing somthing fairly intensive, and to see the temp spikes. This will help us understand this core better, and enrichen this thread :) It's not called the officail discussion thread for nothing :P

You merely need to post your results in this thread, name your post , TEMP FOR SANDEIGO, and I will record everyone's temp in this post below.

RESULTS :

SPREADER--------------------------------------------------NON-SPREADER

[mrlobber]

anyone knows whether this stepping is good or not ? cabge 0516 tpaw.. thx :)


Read before in the thread, I've personally seen 2 cpu's with that stepping, both were not able to complete SuperPi 1M on air and stock volts higher than 2500 Mhz. For 2700 Mhz, they needed almost 1.68 in bios.

[El Snorro]

Read before in the thread, I've personally seen 2 cpu's with that stepping, both were not able to complete SuperPi 1M on air and stock volts higher than 2500 Mhz. For 2700 Mhz, they needed almost 1.68 in bios.

Bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: ;)

http://img66.echo.cx/img66/4887/39449qf.jpg

That is a 0516 TPAW (watercooled)

And i'm running now 24/7 2850mhz 1,45v on boxed air because i'm waiting for some seal string to put my 3700 under my recently bought mach II @r507 :banana:

[babyelf]

nice one el snorro.. looks like some good stuff.. :D i'll try my luck with these if i can get them

[babyelf]

yay getting a CABGE 0516 TPAW hehehe

wish me luck :D

[mrlobber]

Bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: ;)

That is a 0516 TPAW (watercooled)

And i'm running now 24/7 2850mhz 1,45v on boxed air because i'm waiting for some seal string to put my 3700 under my recently bought mach II @r507 :banana:

Hm, I was just sharing my experience. If you have been more lucky, it's your luck, but don't call misfortune of others to be "bull****" as with all my knowledge in English, this word clearly doesn't belong there in this case.

I bought 2 of 0516TPAW's, and both were equally bad, one was tested by
my friend also on water, and didn't clock higher.

On dry ice, my particular one maxed out at 3130. Hardly to call it a great overclocker if another of my friends has got a 0515VPMW to 3 Ghz on air :rolleyes:

Now of course, giving my luck of buying cpu's, I guess, a 0515SPMW or like that would happen to be the worst in whole batch for me as well ;) But I think you got the point.

[babyelf]

lol mrlobber.. don't put ur hopes too low.. ur next one will be a bomb :D

anyway anyone know whether the serial affects overclock like what steven say aobut the venices?

[irenic]

wow nice speed u got there el snorro :)

btw i guess even with same stepping, it doesnt mean that chip can achieves exactly like the other chip does..

[babyelf]

heh u telling who?

if me i know man hehe.. 3 0517 DPMW and only 2 passed 2.9 and only one did 3ghz stable.. the other one about 2.8+ghz

i've seen a few of el snorro's and they were hitting some good speeds.. so it won't kill to hope for the best right? :)

[Dumo]

Anyone with this SD stepping.....Never saw any that start with a Letter on serial#......
http://img291.echo.cx/img291/3414/screenshot0741kk.jpgOh well heres the result....
http://img156.echo.cx/img156/4863/screenshot0845uo.jpg

[coop]

I'm inclined to think it is coming from where Smartguardian is reading the voltage from. Doing a 1m Pi the temp goes instantly from 27 to 38 degrees and stays there solid until it is finished, then instantly returns to 27. When I used cold water it would increase 10 to 11 degrees as well, from 11 or 12 to 22 to 23 during a task then return immediatly after completion. That was even during a 16m it was the same.

[stealth17]

I'm inclined to think it is coming from where Smartguardian is reading the voltage from. Doing a 1m Pi the temp goes instantly from 27 to 38 degrees and stays there solid until it is finished, then instantly returns to 27. When I used cold water it would increase 10 to 11 degrees as well, from 11 or 12 to 22 to 23 during a task then return immediatly after completion. That was even during a 16m it was the same.

no its just the cpu puts out close to 200watts of heat and possibly more the heat will go instantly that much higher because the thermal properties of the die, the heatspreader, the TIM, and then your hsf/waterblock....when im running my mobo in a chill box at -15c on a stock hsf, my SD 3700 doesnt just that quickly do to the surrounding air temp. remove the HS if you have a copper hsf/waterblock and it will still jump but what it jumps too wount be as much. you will see a jump on anything from stock hsf to ln2 when a proc puts out that much heat and especially when it still has a HS on...the HSs are junk....

[fareastgq]

I just did a bit of surgery, dropped my idle temps from 42c to 32c literally. Also, I guess I answered my own question, heh, what was on that spreader? Plastic gooey shin etsu, same stuff amd has been coating stock HS's with for yrs, NOT good, 1 layer of plastic + 1 layer of copper + 1 more layer of plastic (for those who are too afraid to use anything else) + a stock HS = crap for temps. I imagine I would have been at about 45c idle if I did have that 2nd layer of junk. So glad I took it off. The core is small, heh. fyi, I had to sand down my dfi HS bracket all the way except for 1/10 of a centimeter. I ran a 8 min super pi just to see how high the temps would spike, they didn't go past 42c. 10c must be pretty consistent for a temp spike seeing as how everyone else is getting about a 10c spike, 3 gigs, here I come, heh.

[Crazykooter]

I am so tempted to remove the HS. Warranty scares me a bit tho. 10c drop or even a 5c drop would help me a lot. I idle at 28c now with wc but my temp is 10c colder then that so Maybe I can get 24c 23c idle. More i think bout it the less likely it would help me much.

[pumbertot]

Cheers, thanks for letting me know. I will definitely check out the guide! :D


you arent running tccd though. :p:

[pumbertot]

I am so tempted to remove the HS. Warranty scares me a bit tho. 10c drop or even a 5c drop would help me a lot. I idle at 28c now with wc but my temp is 10c colder then that so Maybe I can get 24c 23c idle. More i think bout it the less likely it would help me much.


yes im very tempted too.not the warranty because AMD are absolute nightmares when it comes to using that(took me several months with a barton to get replacement)but im just too lazy atm and i also like to tighten my RBX without having to worry about crushing the core.

but it will help mate regardless of temps. a mate of mine did it on a good water setup.even though his max load temp was 40C with max overclock of 2.9GHz @ 1.55V when he raised to 1.6V (43C load)he still couldnt get anything above 2.9GHz stable.
after removing the HS he can get 2.93GHz stable at 1.55V and loads at 39C.regardless of temps it seems to raise max overclocks 100-300MHz from the results ive seen or read about.

[uniacid]

How hard is it to remove the IHS? I could diffinitely use it since Florida temps suck and my rooms ac sucks too, idle around 40-42 with my 3700+ sd @ 2.7Ghz on 1.55 Vcore

[S&M]

Just bought last night on ebay CABGE 0518 UPCW - that's a 3700+ of course - anyone seen it before ?

[fareastgq]

How hard is it to remove the IHS? I could diffinitely use it since Florida temps suck and my rooms ac sucks too, idle around 40-42 with my 3700+ sd @ 2.7Ghz on 1.55 Vcore

takes 5 mins. 5 careful careful mins, heh, sanding down the stock dfi HS bracket took longer, make sure u don't go into the chip deeper than 1/2 centimeter. you'll hit a chip, poof, no chip. mark it on your blade so you know to never go past that point, don't slip, and your good to go. Start with the corners, it's easier

[HousERaT]

Just bought last night on ebay CABGE 0518 UPCW - that's a 3700+ of course - anyone seen it before ?

never seen a UPCW before..... I wonder what part of the world it came from? Let us know how it clocks.

[babyelf]

guys.. so there's no early batch chip thingy right? lol.. 0516 TPAW here i come then :p

:D

[mrlobber]

Just bought last night on ebay CABGE 0518 UPCW - that's a 3700+ of course - anyone seen it before ?

Definitely not much results with week 0518 and later chips around so give it a try and don't forget to inform us! :D

[irenic]

here is my result with 0516 TPAW.. i can run super PI up to 2.95ghz but still failed prime at 2.8ghz. i tried 1.66vcore the highest because i dont think i need more than that..

[duploxxx]

here is my result with 0516 TPAW.. i can run super PI up to 2.95ghz but still failed prime at 2.8ghz. i tried 1.66vcore the highest because i dont think i need more than that..

hehe same stepping ;) what's your full badge?

ada3700daa5bn
cabge 0516TPAW
1240918d50079

still working on the oc, current 2778@1,5vcore

http://users.telenet.be/duploxxx/oc/SD%202778%201.5v%2010x278.jpg

[irenic]

i only remember this "cabge 0516 tpaw"

.. quite lazy to reopen my water block.. hehe

btw, urs seems like a good stepping.. mind tell me ur other setting in bios?

[uniacid]

takes 5 mins. 5 careful careful mins, heh, sanding down the stock dfi HS bracket took longer, make sure u don't go into the chip deeper than 1/2 centimeter. you'll hit a chip, poof, no chip. mark it on your blade so you know to never go past that point, don't slip, and your good to go. Start with the corners, it's easier

So you sand down the IHS 1/2 cm ? wouldn't happen to be any guides I could read up on?

[fareastgq]

So you sand down the IHS 1/2 cm ? wouldn't happen to be any guides I could read up on?

I did not sand down the IHS, I sanded down the yellow thing that holds the stock heatsink in place. it bolts onto the MB. U have to sand down the same amt as the width of the IHS so your heatsink will make good contact.

[uniacid]

I did not sand down the IHS, I sanded down the yellow thing that holds the stock heatsink in place. it bolts onto the MB. U have to sand down the same amt as the width of the IHS so your heatsink will make good contact.

OH now I understand, well I'm using watercooling and I guess I could lap the cpu block for better contact and tighten it down more

[stealth17]

I did not sand down the IHS, I sanded down the yellow thing that holds the stock heatsink in place. it bolts onto the MB. U have to sand down the same amt as the width of the IHS so your heatsink will make good contact.

it depends on which hsf/waterblock you are using! with swiftch stuff, you do NOT need to do that...

[Tanktanium]

here is my result with 0516 TPAW.. i can run super PI up to 2.95ghz but still failed prime at 2.8ghz. i tried 1.66vcore the highest because i dont think i need more than that..

Odd...I ran superpi 1M at 11x260 and got a few hairs of a second faster

I don't know the week number of my processor, sorry :(. Taking off the block and cleaning off the IHS is a big chore for me :/

[pumbertot]

Odd...I ran superpi 1M at 11x260 and got a few hairs of a second faster

I don't know the week number of my processor, sorry :(. Taking off the block and cleaning off the IHS is a big chore for me :/


maybe tighter timings on your setup?Drop your Idle Cycle Limit to 0 with A64 tweaker and i bet SuperPi is faster still. ;)

[pumbertot]

Tanktanium, very similar CPUs?
vcores etc.;)


http://www.geocities.com/pumbertot.1@btopenworld.com/ScreenShot010.gif

[Tanktanium]

I'm running on 1.4v vcore :D

Also got a CPU-Z validation of me hitting 11x273 (3005mhz) Not stable, of course :D. 3.8v 2-2-2-5 redline 1:1
BIX3 and PolarFLO TT cpu block. No chilling.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=23557

[duploxxx]

i only remember this "cabge 0516 tpaw"

.. quite lazy to reopen my water block.. hehe

btw, urs seems like a good stepping.. mind tell me ur other setting in bios?

you mean the mem settings? its all on minimum / tight timings except trc/trfc 8/10 read it from the dfi-street site. for bh-5 it is easy on the dfi, on my asus i have tccd and need to do it with a64 tweaker and that's a pain :slap:

syetem can go faster but need to mod my heatpipe and find some spare time...

duploxxx

[irenic]

Odd...I ran superpi 1M at 11x260 and got a few hairs of a second faster

I don't know the week number of my processor, sorry :(. Taking off the block and cleaning off the IHS is a big chore for me :/

for that 290htt, i ran my ram at 200mhz but i forgot to set it back to 2-2-2-5 .. i just ran it at 2.5-4-3-10 since that was the timing i used @ 280mhz ..

[Dani]

Hello,

How about San Diego 3700+/4000+, do they have coldbug issue?
My 3200+ Venice have it, with VapoChill LS it did almost 3256MHz and with DI does'nt even 3.2GHz without freezeing on desktop..

So, how is't with San DIego :confused:

[mrlobber]

Hello,


How about San Diego 3700+/4000+, do they have coldbug issue?
My 3200+ Venice have it, with VapoChill LS it did almost 3256MHz and with DI does'nt even 3.2GHz without freezeing on desktop..

So, how is't with San DIego :confused:

Mine didn't have.

[Dani]

Mine didn't have.
Your SD or Ve?
If SD so give me some screenshot :)
How many MHz from Air/H2O -> DI :)

..and stepping and batch number, pleace :rolleyes:

[mrlobber]

Your SD or Ve?
If SD so give me some screenshot :)
How many MHz from Air/H2O -> DI :)

..and stepping and batch number, pleace :rolleyes:

This is the San Diego oc discussion thread :p:

Here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=911146#post911146

CABGE 0516WPAW

Not much more around as that was my first DI run ever. Gained around 500 bootable Mhz in Windows from Thermaltake Sonic Tower + 120mm fan. Saw posting 3350 as well but not able to boot to OS for quite mysterious htt problems.

Regarding Venice, some of my friends put a 3200+ under LN2 this weekend, they had the colbug kicking in at -30 to -60 temps. They still managed some benchable 3.3+ ghz, but had some weird experiences anyway.

[Tim]

Hey guys, I just went through pages of this thread...but it's kinda hard to follow which steppings are the best...

I would like to buy a 3700+ SD, can you give me some steppings which are definitely worth it?

Thanks in advance..

Tim.

[eviLRuLeZ]

Hi guys,

Do you know where Can I have a list with 3700+ San Diego Steppings?

I'm currently building a database :)

Thanks :)

[Levish]

Just got a CABXE 0512XPMW - 3700+ (newegg)
going to use it under phase change (first attempt), I hope it's a good one.

[babyelf]

Tim.. try 0516 TPAW..

so far it's looking the best.. my 0516 TPAW is coming if u can wait a while before getting it

[Tlord]

Hey i have to pick up 2 3700+ SD's next week, they air both for OC on air. Can you guys advise me a good stepping?

Thanks

[winston64]

I just got a CABXE from the egg. hope its a good one..

[HiJon89]

Have people been consistently getting higher clocks on BH-5 and TCCD with San Diegos over FX-55's? If so I may have to make the switch :D

[peter lu]

DFI ULTRA-D
3700+(0516WPMW)
TWINMOS BH-5(UTT)
TT SONIC TOWER



http://img98.echo.cx/img98/1114/kik7ek.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[zxlr8]

Is that voltage right?

[chew*]

just picked this up. anyone with same stepping what was your results?
3700 sandy
cabge 0517 upbw

[s7e9h3n]

Is that voltage right?
Holy $hit!....I second that...
1.4Vcore -> Cpu @ 2880
3.37Vdim -> 1gb BH5 @ 262
Wow.....

[NiCKE^]

Holy $hit!....I second that...
1.4Vcore -> Cpu @ 2880
3.37Vdim -> 1gb BH5 @ 262
Wow.....
In my head Peter Lu is known to get good hw ;)

[arnemetis]

Hello everyone, I am new here. I think either my cpu has a weak memory controller, or y motherboard does not support it well yet. I have a CABGE 0517 UPAW 3700+ that I bought retail on an msi neo2 platinum mobo w/ xp90, and g.skill pc4400 tccd ram. I have latest bios by need.for.mhz, which is a 1.8mod that locks in 1t for san diego and other timing tweaks. even before this, I was able to run my old winchester at 280x9, with memory 1:1. Now I have my 3700@250x11=2750mhz @1.6v, with 166 divider to take ram down to 208mhz. 1:1 with ram at 250mhz isnt stable, 275x10 is far from stable :confused: I know the neo2 does not officially support the san diegos yet, and I have seen many people running 300mhz+ 1:1 on san diegos, but on different boards. so 1)is my cpu's memory controller weak? 2)do I just need to wait for a proper bios? or 3) do I need a new motherboard? (would be new dfi nf3) Thanks for any help or suggestions you could offer.

[mad mikee]

on the quality of 3700s that we can buy in the USA? I am getting the feeling that they are not any better than the POS that I have now (can get stable at 11x250 or 10x270 or 9x300or - you get the idea)
Tried 8 sticks of memory, 2 DFI boards and the best WC you can get and still POS. My luck that I would get teh one bad 0517 :upset: If anyone has a place in the USA that has something resembling something decent, please post here. Otherwise I am going stock and quiet and give up.

[fareastgq]

Hello everyone, I am new here. I think either my cpu has a weak memory controller, or y motherboard does not support it well yet. I have a CABGE 0517 UPAW 3700+ that I bought retail on an msi neo2 platinum mobo w/ xp90, and g.skill pc4400 tccd ram. I have latest bios by need.for.mhz, which is a 1.8mod that locks in 1t for san diego and other timing tweaks. even before this, I was able to run my old winchester at 280x9, with memory 1:1. Now I have my 3700@250x11=2750mhz @1.6v, with 166 divider to take ram down to 208mhz. 1:1 with ram at 250mhz isnt stable, 275x10 is far from stable :confused: I know the neo2 does not officially support the san diegos yet, and I have seen many people running 300mhz+ 1:1 on san diegos, but on different boards. so 1)is my cpu's memory controller weak? 2)do I just need to wait for a proper bios? or 3) do I need a new motherboard? (would be new dfi nf3) Thanks for any help or suggestions you could offer.

I can run 10x274 stable with 1.475 volts. it's all in the sig. exact same stepping, I wouldn't give up hope on it yet until u know for sure.

[freestylercs]

Holy $hit!....I second that...
1.4Vcore -> Cpu @ 2880
3.37Vdim -> 1gb BH5 @ 262
Wow.....


that s only 1M. for prime i think he have to set more vcore.

free

[jagt]

Well, I got mine yesterday. It's a CABGE 0516MPMW, and it seems to be utter crap. I'm not able to finish 3dmark 01 at anything over 240x11 (2640), and the most primestable I'm able to get, is 255x10, and this is with 1,65v :(

I only just got my Ultra-D too, so I don't have much experience with it. I'm using bios 6-18 on it now. Any tips? I really really hoped for more :(

[jagt]

Meh, I'm giving this chip up. It's impossible to stabilize it at anything over 2.55GHz. It's so typical that I had to get a crap chip. Dang my luck!

[andL64]

yeah i got luck with my first san diego had so much S754 and winchester cores... all no good but this baby rockZ 3200mhz is reachable and 3300+ suicide.

only one thing i got a messy mem. controller my bh-5 could do 282-2-2-2 but in with the sandiego it reaches max. 269 fully stable. i ll try my a-data tccd soon and let ya know the results.

seEn

[stealth17]

yeah i got luck with my first san diego had so much S754 and winchester cores... all no good but this baby rockZ 3200mhz is reachable and 3300+ suicide.

only one thing i got a messy mem. controller my bh-5 could do 282-2-2-2 but in with the sandiego it reaches max. 269 fully stable. i ll try my a-data tccd soon and let ya know the results.

seEn

try moving you dimms around. use orange, test and then swap the modules into the opposite orange and test. then do the same with the yellow. may or may not help, i gain about 3-5mhz in orange by swapping them to a certain place.

[ugp]

I have a quick question what is it taking most 3700+ SDs at 250x11.0? Voltage wise...

I tried v1.350 + 123% and it wasn't stable...so I am not sure...I really don't want to give it too much being on stock HSF.

[andL64]

I have a quick question what is it taking most 3700+ SDs at 250x11.0? Voltage wise...

I tried v1.350 + 123% and it wasn't stable...so I am not sure...I really don't want to give it too much being on stock HSF.

1,5V-1,55V or max. 1,6 if it cant reach get better cooling.

seEn

[ugp]

Thanks...I am trying 1.500 + 110% It is actually pretty cool still...idling at 36-37C

Could too much voltage make it unstable?

[andL64]

no, but better temps for higher oc :D

i didnt really gain anything over 1,6-1,65V but this is @ 3200-3300
with 1,52V i get 3100 stable so dont gain much because temps getting worse....

seEn

[ugp]

Well I am sitting on 250x11.0 right now @ v1.55

And here is what I got...

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33354&stc=1
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33355&stc=1

What do you think...and it is a 30 sec 1MB SuperPi

[andL64]

well it worked :D ,thats good, just look here:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33356&stc=1

this is with 252-2-2-2 very nice i think!


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33359&stc=1

here is spi1M @ 3190mhz with 245-2-2-2 (think so)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33358&stc=1

here is PC2002 old but very nice just look @ memory and cpu score my mem. score increased very very much only with cpu speed.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33357&stc=1

3272mhz sandra cpu-bench.....

i need some better cooling its with my modded mach2 (R290) when i get condensers i ll build my first single stage ondie cooling :)

seEn

[ugp]

It wasn't stable....:(\

Going to test 250x9.0 and then maybe 270x9.0...try to max out my RAM..

[andL64]

ok so try 1,5V +113% it should give ya about 1,568V or someting like that.

set ltd bus to 1,4V, and yes set some "ugly" ram divider like 166 for 250x11 so ur ram cant be the problem. i think the chip should at least do 2700-2800 with boxed at 36C

what stepping u got?
and just remember better temps will gain you much.

i also got some pre-tested venice with boxed @ 2,7 but it has the cold bug so i bought the sandiego next day :D have to get rid of this venice so its all bout luck.

seEn

[ugp]

ADA3700DAA5BN
CABGE 0518UPCW
1250228E50772

Um...does the LDT Voltage matter...I was reading that it doesn't...

And the RAM runs fine at 250x9.0 and that is what I had it in with my old DFI...

[stealth17]

ADA3700DAA5BN
CABGE 0518UPCW
1250228E50772

Um...does the LDT Voltage matter...I was reading that it doesn't...

And the RAM runs fine at 250x9.0 and that is what I had it in with my old DFI...

LDT has only made me unstable in the past, temps not being the problem. just depends on the board and chip i guess. test to find out! :toast:

[ugp]

LDT has only made me unstable in the past, temps not being the problem. just depends on the board and chip i guess. test to find out! :toast:
Alright man thanks...I will give it a shot..
What is a good voltage to try on it...and what is safe...that is why I haven't messed with it at all.

Also what is a good setting for the HT Muliplier? AUTO or 5x?

Skt 939 is way different than Skt 754...

And PCI-E is very much different over AGP...does the PCI-E Bus speed do anything set other than to 100MHz?

[Deus Falsus]

Have any of you guys received a good 3700+ from newegg Nj warehouse?

[ugp]

Ok trying this...my Windows XP Install just got corrupted some how...

I am trying this...

250x11.0 @ 1.500 + 113%
LDT @ v1.4
Chipset @ v1.6
DRAM @ v2.90

1:1 Divider

Timings:
2.5-3-3-6-1T

[andL64]

HT Multi /Auto or 3x (3x is save up over 300+)

[ugp]

What exactly is the HT good for...and how does it affect overclocks and peformance?

[Razor_cut]

Need a bios recomendation for 3700+ DFI Ultra-D, with OCZ VX and Vapo LS.

Should I Take 6.23-2 since I have Vx memmory. Or one of the 510?

Thanks!

[andL64]

What exactly is the HT good for...and how does it affect overclocks and peformance?

it causes instability i cant say which error/BSOD u will get....



Need a bios recomendation for 3700+ DFI Ultra-D, with OCZ VX and Vapo LS.

Should I Take 6.23-2 since I have Vx memmory. Or one of the 510?

Thanks!?

i use for my bh-5 the 6.23 -2 and it works fine also tried tccd but it seems that my sd has a bad mem.controller cant get DDR580-DDR600 stable above 3ghz..... so i use the bh-5 again

seEn

[Razor_cut]

Thanks for the reply Il post an report on the oc later today :)

[ugp]

I gave up for now and am just sitting at stock clocks...

When I get more time off from work I will sit and play with it alittle..

What are the tightest timings OCZ Plat Rev 2 can handle at DDR400...I know it is 2-2-2-5 but the other settings...does anyone have a quick reference chart...?

[pumbertot]

Need a bios recomendation for 3700+ DFI Ultra-D, with OCZ VX and Vapo LS.

Should I Take 6.23-2 since I have Vx memmory. Or one of the 510?

Thanks!

yep as he says 623-2 is good as any.running just nice here with my setup, same as yours but im just watercooling.was thinking going vapo again but CBA atm.

3GHz+ for that Sandy im sure mate.

[zxlr8]

cooling?

[babyelf]

corsair cool :)

[shimmishim]

just got a new 0522XPBW

first 22 i've seen so far...

results are looking very dismal at the moment...

won't do 2.5 ghz @ stock voltage 1M superpi without a voltage increase...

hmmm... kinda sad... was hoping for 2.8 with 1.5 to 1.6 volts...

[pumbertot]

just got my san diego

CABGE 0516 TPAW
http://www.comeapart.com/babyelf/sandiego/2700stocksuperpi8mb.JPG

http://www.comeapart.com/babyelf/sandiego/29701.648superpi1mbtight.JPG

how stable is that max o/c? 1m superpi doesnt mean jack. ;)

[sideeffect]

:stick:

[chew*]

funny the discussion thread turned into the post your max clock pic thread.......... guess people can't read..

[babyelf]

i refuse to be as low as you mr. Abit WR holder

ppl are here for information and fun.. u can give ur english tuition classes somewhere else

[pumbertot]

:stick:

for those that didnt see the editted post:

Hello pumbertot,

sideeffect has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - The San Diego OC DISCUSSION Thread - in the AMD forum of XtremeSystems Forums.

This thread is located at:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=61310&goto=newpost

Here is the message that has just been posted:
***************
Good job he showed a 32mb pi run and not 1mb then :)
***************



:p sorry mate had to do that. ;)
so babyelf again I ask can you show us the max 32M superpi overclock, interested.

[babyelf]

still @ it.. will post when i have it :)

[chew*]

i refuse to be as low as you mr. Abit WR holder

ppl are here for information and fun.. u can give ur english tuition classes somewhere else


might find more info in the actual OFFICIAL OC'ing thread.http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59406 as this is the DISCUSSION thread.......

for those to lazy to read page 1


"The purpose of the "official" thread is for forum members to display their overclocking accomplishments. I weeded out 4 pages of this from the other thread: "Oooh. I hope my chip does that!"..."But is it Prime stable?"..."What's the default multiplier on that again?"...Where did you buy it?"..."Is it worth it?"

The point of this thread is for all other discussions with regard to the overclocks in the "official" thread. A lot of forum members like to get straight to the point with the screenshots without having to sift through a mile of smileys and other posts."

gotta love how people like to :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: on other peoples acchievements to. Then they wonder why no one helps them.....

[babyelf]

no one is :banana::banana::banana::banana:ting on other's achievements here.. ur record is great.. and i totally respect that.. but if u're gonna come in and insult people about whether they can or can not read... now that is another thing... like i say we are here for the fun of it..

and before editing i said i did not post it on the oc thread yet because i haven't got my max overclock.. if that isn't allowed here then please.. point me to another thread that will let me post my stepping and progress on overclocking my SD

nothing against ur record again.. they are truly remarkable.. just please please don't come in and say people can't read or something like that.. it's not nice and sometimes offensive.. if u would have said "i think this belongs to another place or something" people would have just gone oops or something.. hope i get this msg thru in a nice way

[chew*]

no one is :banana::banana::banana::banana:ting on other's achievements here.. ur record is great.. and i totally respect that.. but if u're gonna come in and insult people about whether they can or can not read... now that is another thing... like i say we are here for the fun of it..

and before editing i said i did not post it on the oc thread yet because i haven't got my max overclock.. if that isn't allowed here then please.. point me to another thread that will let me post my stepping and progress on overclocking my SD

nothing against ur record again.. they are truly remarkable.. just please please don't come in and say people can't read or something like that.. it's not nice and sometimes offensive.. if u would have said "i think this belongs to another place or something" people would have just gone oops or something.. hope i get this msg thru in a nice way

No offense intended. I didn't say anyone could't read just said some people to lazy to read through all the pages. In fact i do it myself.its like a comic book most people look at the pics first read the bubbles later :P

[babyelf]

No offense intended. I didn't say anyone could't read just said some people to lazy to read through all the pages. In fact i do it myself.its like a comic book most people look at the pics first read the bubbles later :P

all cool.. just thought will let u know.. be nice :p bad chew :nono: :p j/k

[ugp]

What is a cool Air Cooling HSF Combo for the San Diegos...I mean it already runs cool on stock but cooler is always better...

[babyelf]

i reckon an XP90C and a panaflo 92mm medium speed fan will do very well

[mad mikee]

Better clamping pressure than Thermalright stuff = lower temps, easier to use on bare cores too!

Now - On to something actually relating to our topic. (This post is part of the testing plan, you know the part where you talk about what is happening and jinx it? This is a a test to see if that happens :hehe: )

First of all do most peeps find they have to boost Vchip and Vldt when switching to a Sandie from a previous chip? 2 Sandies and 2 DFIs gimme same requirements ????

Pissed @ 3700 SD 0517 XPMW - wont do over 2750 for ANYTHING - Life is tough.
So when going gets tough - the tough go shopping ! :D
Got a new 0517 UPBW from my favorite place markonecomputers (just good luck for me from there, gotten all my best CPUs there :shrug: )

Added new Papst 150mm pulling air thru my PA160 w/ G5 mounted :eek: Fan is only @ 5V so sound is okay ( still quieter than my wife's puter for now ) (Now I need better pump - never done)

Seems I have problems getting to 2800 -2900 (280/290x10 or 311+ x9 don't seem to get memtest stable even - think it is something to do w/ TREF (:mad: )
9 x 300 is not a problem.

:idea: 10 x 300! (~ 1.6 Vcore, 2.8 Vdimm) Hmmm memtest is fine @ 2.5-4-3-7, :brick: Let's try w/ 2.5-3-3-7 ! :hrhr:

Ran memtest all night (#5) okay, #8 for a couple of hours and 7 full passes - no errors. memtest BW = 3006
1 error in goldmemory Quicktest BW = 3579, error in first pass, no errors for next 2 passes.\

Now to try windows and see if I get to stay anywhere near this :shrug:

Wish me luck :up:

[stealth17]

has anyone expirienced a cold bug yet? ive seen that guy on ln2 but what about a -100c cascade?

or a -50c single phasechange?

[pumbertot]

First of all do most peeps find they have to boost Vchip and Vldt when switching to a Sandie from a previous chip? 2 Sandies and 2 DFIs gimme same requirements ????

Pissed @ 3700 SD 0517 XPMW - wont do over 2750 for ANYTHING - Life is tough.
So when going gets tough - the tough go shopping ! :D
Got a new 0517 UPBW from my favorite place markonecomputers (just good luck for me from there, gotten all my best CPUs there :shrug: )

Added new Papst 150mm pulling air thru my PA160 w/ G5 mounted :eek: Fan is only @ 5V so sound is okay ( still quieter than my wife's puter for now ) (Now I need better pump - never done)

Seems I have problems getting to 2800 -2900 (280/290x10 or 311+ x9 don't seem to get memtest stable even - think it is something to do w/ TREF (:mad: )
9 x 300 is not a problem.

:idea: 10 x 300! (~ 1.6 Vcore, 2.8 Vdimm) Hmmm memtest is fine @ 2.5-4-3-7, :brick: Let's try w/ 2.5-3-3-7 ! :hrhr:

Ran memtest all night (#5) okay, #8 for a couple of hours and 7 full passes - no errors. memtest BW = 3006
1 error in goldmemory Quicktest BW = 3579, error in first pass, no errors for next 2 passes.\

Now to try windows and see if I get to stay anywhere near this :shrug:

Wish me luck :up:


no mate, i run vchip and vldt at stock and get same clocks that i did with venice for mem,max htt etc.


is that mem tccd? try tref 4708.
....and good luck.

[ugp]

Nothing I do as far as overclock is 100% stable. I really give up...I don't think I am finding the right BIOS...There are way too many of them out there right now..

[ikuto]

for those who couldn't get your SD to OC'ed past 2.75Ghz stable, can you please post the steppings? is it OEM or Retail?

I got a SD 3700+ CABGE 0516 WPMW Retail on a ThermalRight XP120 from Newegg and the max i can get is 10 x 276HTT (2.76Ghz @1.65v) stable on a Epox 9NDA3j with latest BIOS. I have isolated memory problems and even burned in my CPU before attempting to overclock it and still no good results. Temps are well under 60C It won't go any higher at any multiplier or voltages. When i attempt to clock it 2.77Ghz - 2.85Ghz my games will crash to desktop or BSOD. At 2.9Ghz it will POST but can't boot into windows. I suspect either i got a bad stepping or my motherboard is holding my CPU back for some unknown reason. I have seen results with my same steppings with 2.8Ghz + from 2 people i think on this forum or AOA forum. With my Winnie 3000+ i could maxed out my CPU limits at 9 x 291HTT (2.62Ghz @ 1.65v) If i lowered my multiplier i can do up to 310HTT stable. Now with SD i cannot use high HTT with lower multipliers. Seems like it doesn't like it.

[ikuto]

Nothing I do as far as overclock is 100% stable. I really give up...I don't think I am finding the right BIOS...There are way too many of them out there right now..

I wish they would make more modded BIOSes out there for more variety of Motherboards. I use to find them for my motherboard and they work pretty well most of the time. Now there are none for my board and the fun stops there :slobber: . Epox is not coming out with frequent BIOS updates either cause there is a speculation of memory timings are not right with the Rev. E memory controllers or something like that. Wonder if that has to do with the bad overclock results. Only time will tell.

[andL64]

lol

how many bios do u need there so much out there for the dfi nforce4 that i didnt know which one i should take best so i take the latest ;)

rev.E6 has some problems i read....

but epoxn isnt good no support and no new bios like u said but if u look for the dfi or msi there are lots.....

maybe ur memory didnt get good clocks because the mem.controller has tighten look @ some wichester/venice scores @ stock u ll see the improvment in sandra or 3d01 or whatever, but i also got a sd and a venice and they both work sweet.

i cant believe that ugp gives up as i came here bout 1 year ago i read his threads with attention because he still very good overclocker i was very impressed and now....., so come on dont be fool and show us your hardcore oc ;) still think something is holding ya back and u ll find that soOn ;)

seEn

[ugp]

Man I can't find it man...it is weird...because I will change a few settings and try something and then go back to something else I know booted and it won't...it doesn't make since....and at 2.5GHz Windows take a bit of time to load because something has to be off with the memory timings...So I really don't know...

Can someone post me there exact settings they are using as far as voltage on everything and memory timings....please and what BIOS you are using so I can go by reference...I mean I see all these settings but they are bits and pieces everywhere and it is hard to gather what is being used on the same clocks.

Also does anyone know what th Pay Load size is in the BIOS for PCI-E?? No one answered me before...

[andL64]

hey last questions pay load:

Its the packet size for data streams sent through the PCI-E bus.... so set it as high as possible.
had ya used some other cpus on your lanparty? because i saw i thread some time ago that some even cant perform anything on overclocking i thought maybe ure in badluck and got such one? dont ya?

well i will get my bench rig runnin but its late here 2.22 am but i ll post all my settings here and share it with you could take some time... :)

seEn

[stealth17]

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5866&highlight=Pay+Load


c. Set Pci pay load to 256mb and not default 4096 or to what your memory on video card actually is.

[pumbertot]

Can someone post me there exact settings they are using as far as voltage on everything and memory timings....please and what BIOS you are using so I can go by reference...I mean I see all these settings but they are bits and pieces everywhere and it is hard to gather what is being used on the same clocks.


set 1.5-2-2-5
set trfc 15-17
tref 3072/3120
twr 2
twtr 2
trtw 3
bank int enable
dqs skew increase
data drive 8
data strength 3
max async 7ns
fast
read preamble 5ns
idle 16clks
read write 16x
bypass 7x
dynamic enable

[babalouj]

Just finished up a phase change session to test out my new gas charge and my 3700+ SD. The result is 3.3ghz at 1.77V with an evap temp of -48.6C loaded. I was about 20 minutes into 32M superpi and saw condensation so I shut it off for a while. Here are some screen shots.

[andL64]

here are my bios settings.

cpu and memory (voltage)/timings dont included.... only IDE HDD

Advanced Bios Features:
First Boot device: Disabled (No floppy)
HDD SMart: Enable
HDD Delay: 1,2sec
Full Screen Logo: Disabled

Adv. Chipset Features:
CPU Throttling: Disabled

Integrated Peripherals:
Onboard FDC: disabled
Onb. Serial port1: Disabled
Onb. IRA: Disabled

PC-Heat:
like yourself

Genie Bios:

LDT: x3
CPU Multi= Multi (not auto)
Cpu-vid: 1,5 +104/110%
LDT: 1,4V
Chipset: 1,6V
DRAM: Depends
Ram settings depends...
Mac Lan: Disabled
Machine Mar. (NV) : Disabled
Boot Rom: Disabled
SATA 1/2 3/4: Disabled
VIA: Disabled

if it helps i can post my ram settings too but i use old bh-5 ones but i also have tccd which are crap for my san diego!

seEn

[ugp]

I really need someone with some TCCD to help me out here...I believe it is my RAM holding me back...I know this RAM does DDR500 @ 2.5-3-3-0 because I was doing that on my old DFI nF3 250Gb 24/7 but this motherboard doesn't like TRAS of 0

EDIT:

Ok this is what I have done...I have made a little data sheet and I am going to mark down all my settings and post them with scores....what I can't seem to get stable is Prime95...max I have been able to is is alittle over 2 Hours....

[andL64]

I really need someone with some TCCD to help me out here...I believe it is my RAM holding me back...I know this RAM does DDR500 @ 2.5-3-3-0 because I was doing that on my old DFI nF3 250Gb 24/7 but this motherboard doesn't like TRAS of 0

EDIT:

Ok this is what I have done...I have made a little data sheet and I am going to mark down all my settings and post them with scores....what I can't seem to get stable is Prime95...max I have been able to is is alittle over 2 Hours....

indeed my old bh-5 did 1,5-2-1-0 270-280!!!! on the nforce3 Lanparty S754 but here on Nforce4 i can only get 1,5-2-2-2(higher) 1,5-2-2-0 is a no good

i m running till 265-269 2-2-2-5(7) with the sd now....

its also all bout the mem. controller in the cpu and single channel doesnt stress as much

seEn

[ugp]

Hey man get on YIM lol I am trying to IM you...

[andL64]

yim whats that? maybe some chat program i think? i have win messenger and icq i ll send ya my adress per pm

[ugp]

I don't use either...I use Aol and Yahoo with Trillian...

[pumbertot]

I really need someone with some TCCD to help me out here...I believe it is my RAM holding me back...I know this RAM does DDR500 @ 2.5-3-3-0 because I was doing that on my old DFI nF3 250Gb 24/7 but this motherboard doesn't like TRAS of 0

EDIT:

Ok this is what I have done...I have made a little data sheet and I am going to mark down all my settings and post them with scores....what I can't seem to get stable is Prime95...max I have been able to is is alittle over 2 Hours....

lol never read that part about tccd.
heres settings i used for oczpc4800 @ 300Mhz and 2.8V

2.5
4
10
3
8
15
3
3
2
3
4708
1
enabled
auto
0
level5
level2
8ns
5ns
128
auto
16x
7x
disable.
also you might want to look at first post here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=57317&highlight=burn+tccd

[ugp]

I have read that guide and it doesn't help still...something isn't right..I am trying to figure it out tonight since I am off work tomorrow...wish me luck...so far 250x10.0 looks good will post results in a few minutes...

[ugp]

Here you go...my video scores are really low no matter what...I think the video card is screwed up though..

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33638&stc=1

[andL64]

mind that theres a big diffrence between the mem. controller @ lower mhz like 2400mhz and 2800-3000mhz

hope u ll get it tonight, i m also @ home tomorrow and chill out ;)

seEn

[andL64]

Here you go...my video scores are really low no matter what...I think the video card is screwed up though..

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33638&stc=1


hmm ure right

3d03 is poor one 9,9k you should get at least 11k+ with stock sandiego

also aq3 is very poor!

but PC02 cpu seems correct @ 250x10
bandwith is showed inccorect i think because its not true try measuring with everest.

seEn

[ugp]

Yeah I know man...I have another BFG 6800GT OC coming this week and I am going to test it by itself first and see what it gets...if there is a big different I am going to RMA the old one and wait until it comes back and then I will be on SLI fully

EDIT: So far everything seems stable.. *Knock on wood* But maybe I finally got it...

[ugp]

hmm ure right

3d03 is poor one 9,9k you should get at least 11k+ with stock sandiego

also aq3 is very poor!

but PC02 cpu seems correct @ 250x10
bandwith is showed inccorect i think because its not true try measuring with everest.

seEn
What doesn't make since is that when I first put that card in I got 12K on 3DMark03

[Microstar]

Hi guys...i am new here...have a dilemma hope u guys could help me...i'm choosing between 3500+ Venice and 3700+ San Diego...3500+ has been tested and proven that it can run up to 2.8ghz...as for 3700+ SD its still doubtful...i've checked with my retailer...and he has only 1 stepping available...its CABGE 0522XPMW...anyone using the same batch ? Care to share ur experience in oc-ing it ? I dunno whether i shld get it or not...since there is a high possibility of a bad cpu (many bad feedback on 0522)

[fatty]

Where have you seen bad feedback on xpmw ??

[Microstar]

Where have you seen bad feedback on xpmw ??

Not bad feedback on xpmw...juz bad feedback on 0522...read my post again...anyway u using 0522xpmw ? is it gd for oc? how high can it reach ?

[ugp]

The San Diegos can reach high clocks...I have reached 2.8GHz easily...just haven't spent the time to tweak the memory to match the clocks...

[Microstar]

The San Diegos can reach high clocks...I have reached 2.8GHz easily...just haven't spent the time to tweak the memory to match the clocks...

Ur steppings and vcore ?

[ugp]

Steppings are in Sig and vCore was at v1.6

Right now I am sitting on 250x10.0 @ v1.5

[zxlr8]

Mine is stable in benchies to 2.9(sisoft arithmetic) but around 2.8-2.85 for everything else. I am prime 95 stable for 24 hours at 2.71 and I have my memory running at 246 now instead of 270x10. My memory is now failing memtest after 2-3 passes at 265. I just started running a new bios and this is the result. I think there will be some improvement with the new bios, but my memory is really holding me back. It is not stable at all at 1t timing. I think it is a bios problem for memory timings. I am using 1.80. I tried the modded bios with 1t but it was very unstable for my hynix memory. DDR booster is at 3.4 volts. I did have a pretty stable overclock with 1 t timing using 1.37b, but I like the new bios better for overclocks. I don't need more than 1.6 vcore anyways....

[Lithan]

Zxlr8, if you upgrade cooling I'll bet you can get at least 2.8ghz prime stable. And maybe 2.93-2.95 bench stable.

[zxlr8]

Yeah I guess I need to update that in my sig. I bought a TT typhoon and it rocks! I am running 1.6 vcore and I have a near-silent case now. Before I could run benches only to 2.8. Idle is 32 and load is 46-7.(Prime large fft) Obviously a big help. I have a lttle bit better than average chip. Most 100% cpu tasks only put me to 44c. I lapped the HS and I think that helped. I needed a silent case for my theater. That is where I game and I also use the pc to upconvert dvds using FFDShow. With 1.65 volts, I could probably get 2.75 stable for prime, but I am happy with the way it performs now. If I was worried about benching it to death, I would have alot higher 3d01 score for sure. I would like to see my memory stable @ 270 though. 2.5,4,4,7 is what it runs at now. I have tried a couple things, but it is only supposed to be 3,5,5,10 to 250, so I am pretty happy with it for overclocking as much as it has. There would be a big performance gain though if I could run async at 270 though. I wonder if there issome good cheap memory that will overclock like that. Anybody?

[koei]

Need a little help if anyone can. I am running my SD at 310x10, things seems fine, and it's prime stable as well. I can run 3DMark fine, but when I try to run BF2 it seems to crash after a short time at 3.1GHz. I set it to 300x10 and it handles it no problem. At 3.1GHz, I had it at 1.66v. Pushing the vcore higher didn't seem to have any effect on stability. I tried 2.5HTT ratio, that didn't work either. Tried boosting LDT voltage, that didn't work. What else can I do?

[ugp]

Some games are really over sensitive to overclocks though...

[koei]

Ok I seem to have figured it out. The memory was the culprit. Had a set of TCCD 437 in there and although it was handling ok at 310MHz, it seem to have been spitting out occasional errors at 2.7v. It didn't like higher voltage too. I switched it with the 440 from this machine and bumped it to 2.9v and problem solved. 3.1GHz BF2 stable.

[ugp]

Glad to see you solved the problem...

I as well fixed my problem I was having with my BFG 6800GT OC...

It wasn't scoring right...I found out another device was sharing the same IRQ so I did a reinstall and it solved it and the video card is now using IRQ #5 instead of #19. I am now back up to 12K+ on 3DMark03

I have decided for sure this time to revert to stock clocks because everytime I overclock it screws my windows install up and I have to reformat it all. It is getting tiresome right now and I really don't have the time for it all :(

[shimmishim]

anyone get a sandy recently with some results? 052x?

[Microstar]

anyone get a sandy recently with some results? 052x?

Yeah thats wad i wanna ask too...btw...does 05XX matter more than the SPMW/XPMW/TPAW thingie ?

[andL64]

Glad to see you solved the problem...

I as well fixed my problem I was having with my BFG 6800GT OC...

It wasn't scoring right...I found out another device was sharing the same IRQ so I did a reinstall and it solved it and the video card is now using IRQ #5 instead of #19. I am now back up to 12K+ on 3DMark03

I have decided for sure this time to revert to stock clocks because everytime I overclock it screws my windows install up and I have to reformat it all. It is getting tiresome right now and I really don't have the time for it all :(

hey

glad to hear but

i think its a mobo or sata problem cannot check why your systems doesnt overclock well.
sry m8

seEn

[bmac11]

Anyone know what week newegg or monarch are shipping? Whats ocing the higher.. older or newer?

[ugp]

Well in my profile is what I got from ZipZoomFly...they were cheaper and free 2nd day shipping.

And I don't think I have gotten the right BIOS for my Motherboard yet...

EDIT: Current testing...

This is what I got testing for stability now..

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/ugp/Computer/250x11.jpg

[ugp]

OMG I had to post this behind this...

http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1497321297

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/ugp/Computer/AquaMark3-94269.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/ugp/Computer/3DMark03-20093.jpg

I am getting it now... :D

The AquaMark3 score was done with 2.75GHz but wasn't stable for 3DMark03 I I clocked it down to 2.5GHz and that is what I scored.

[winston64]

has anyone tried a CABXE???

[burningrave101]

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5866&highlight=Pay+Load

Thats not right. Maximum Payload Size has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of on-board memory on your GPU. It is not the PCI-E version of Aperture size. It should be left at the default 4096 setting. Lowering it will lower performance.

[IntheWilderness]

anyone get a sandy recently with some results? 052x?

I've got a sandy 3700+ cabge 0518UPAW

Have been testing it for the last couple of weeks on 2 mobo's an epox 9NDA3+ which is a good board,I may go back to it yet but currently I'm running it in a Neo 2 Plat,haven't really had much tweak time with the Neo yet but here's a few screenies with the Epox.

First Post so I make a :toast: to you all.Cheers!

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7091/iviewcapturedate04042005time09.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iviewcapturedate04042005time09.jpg)

[pumbertot]

dont know my stepping as never looked and CBA removing waterblock. does 2.9 prime stable at 1.6V watercooled. but the best setting is for the summer weather when i still want my fans silent. its running @ 2650MHz at only 1.32V. ;)

[burningrave101]

How are the newer 3700+'s from ZZF and Newegg overclocking now? Are the memory controllers improving any? I just ordered one from ZZF a few minutes ago in place of my 3200+ Venice.

[Deus Falsus]

I got one from newegg's nj facilities 1.5 weeks ago, its a cabxe0512xpmw and it does 2.85ghz @ 1.6v prime stable on air 2.8ghz 1.53v prime stable on air also. However its memory controller is not exemplary and cannot 3dmark above 270mhz(memtest passes though) One of my older venice cpus did 315mhz on the very same ram without issue. There is a tradeoff with the memory controller, nonetheless the venice never went higher than 2.75ghz so I'm content.

[ugp]

Mine was from ZipZoomFly about 3 weeks ago. Stepping in sig. I am sitting at 250x10.0 so far.

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

240*11@1.6v ......not very impressive eh....counted on about 260*11 at those voltages.....dont seem to get hot, but wont go any further...it IS cpu..rest has been tested with former winnie............cannot trust my sensors on this DFI board, but i think it stays about 48c on load....i want 24/7 stable platform....this is not for benching. any1 knows a safe vcore for my xp120 on that cpu.

using bios 310 ...any better?

[Crazykooter]

Fragman']240*11@1.6v ......not very impressive eh....counted on about 260*11 at those voltages.....dont seem to get hot, but wont go any further...it IS cpu..rest has been tested with former winnie............cannot trust my sensors on this DFI board, but i think it stays about 48c on load....i want 24/7 stable platform....this is not for benching. any1 knows a safe vcore for my xp120 on that cpu.

using bios 310 ...any better?
I think the bios could be limiting that overclock. 240x11 is rather low. I am sure it will do 2750 mhz. ALmost all do. try any of the newer bios'es and see if it makes a diff.

[ugp]

Fragman']240*11@1.6v ......not very impressive eh....counted on about 260*11 at those voltages.....dont seem to get hot, but wont go any further...it IS cpu..rest has been tested with former winnie............cannot trust my sensors on this DFI board, but i think it stays about 48c on load....i want 24/7 stable platform....this is not for benching. any1 knows a safe vcore for my xp120 on that cpu.

using bios 310 ...any better?

I think I remember reading people putting alittle over v1.7 on them...I have personally done v1.66 with Stock HSF and temps were fine but wasn't a stable overclock. By the way I am still using Stock HSF no reason to change right now at all. Temps are idling at 32C About 44C Full Load.

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

problem is what cooling they have on them.....I often go to LAN in the sommertime with it, so it should be stable even though ambient temp is 30-32c ....but 1.65 shouldnt be a problem, and perhaps a new bios...isnt too happy about it since i have seen a lot of destroy boards with beta-bios....on the other hand my boards warranty is voided :D

[Deus Falsus]

UGP
I get 57c on full load at 1.6v with a big typhoon and 54c on water cooling with my 3700+. I also had 5 venice cpu's and each reported temps a little different under the big typhoon. I remember one of them primed at 37c load and 1.6v and another went all the way up to 60c and actually overclocked better, either I'm seeing things or something is up.

[ugp]

That is what the BIOS and SmartGuardian is reading anyway...

My Chipset is at 41C and usually doesn't go above 44C anymore...

Everything is stable and seems fine.

[cpulloverclock]

my fx-57 0516WPMW is occt stable at 3020 1.38v for the moment
44°C on wc (very hot), 31-32°C room temp :(
36-37 outside
I HEAT
soon I try 3040
edit : 3040 ok

http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/Informatique/occtfx57.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/Informatique/occtfx57-1.jpg

[coop]

What makes those chips so much better than regular ones? Another member has the same one and it is as good. That's very nice.

[Crazykooter]

What makes those chips so much better than regular ones? Another member has the same one and it is as good. That's very nice.
Strained silicon for one makes them a lot more effecient chips. Other then that from what I understand the memory controller is the same. :stick:

[SVTSnake]

my fx-57 0516WPMW is occt stable at 3020 1.38v for the moment
44°C on wc (very hot), 31-32°C room temp :(
36-37 outside
I HEAT
soon I try 3040
edit : 3040 ok

http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/Informatique/occtfx57.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/Informatique/occtfx57-1.jpg


What multiplier are you running? Looks good...

[ikuto]

my fx-57 0516WPMW is occt stable at 3020 1.38v for the moment
44°C on wc (very hot), 31-32°C room temp :(
36-37 outside
I HEAT
soon I try 3040
edit : 3040 ok

http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/Informatique/occtfx57.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/Informatique/occtfx57-1.jpg

Wow Same steppings as my SD 3700+ but your is a FX-57 and able to reach 3Ghz with those voltages. Wow! :slobber: Mine still struggles for 2.8 Ghz...sigh.... :dammit: last hope is a BIOS update see if that does anything or replace the Motherboard which i'm not planning to do.

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

me2 ...stuck @ 240FSB......more volt dont seem to help.....bios: 310 ..perhaps a multiplier bug?

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

tried 623-3 and it seems to have changed my chipset and pwm sensors......small bug its ok..i know it is ....

but ran 220 without any extra volt..thought oh my, i have a great cpu...then hit a brick wall@ 230FSB....now it really needed a lot of volt to be stable.....ended up @ 245@ 1.65vcore........not good enough i think but dont dare to give it more voltage on air.

[Smy]

i have a fx55 that clocks good on air/water but it is boring and I am too lazy to use water cooling

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=26003 aircool

so 3700+ or 4000+ what is best?
I imagines that 4000+ clocks better ?
I use air cooling for now but got water cooling as well.

[cpulloverclock]

What multiplier are you running? Looks good...
14 multiplier

and it is stable at 3125MHz 1.52v

53-56C cpu temperature

25C ambient


I posted some screenies in the other SD thread

[Geebs]

Hey Guys,

I just got a SD FX-55 CABCE 0512 (MPMW I think). I am not anywhere as hardcore as most of you guys, but I do try. :stick:

The cpu isn't stable in any tests (OCCT, S&M, Prime95) but seems to be stable in games.

I have tried 10 X 300, 12 X 250 at 1.575 and 1.568V.

To be honest, I don't know if I should give it more voltage, or send it back...

If I were to send it back, what do all you RMA experts recommend I say? The chip isn't faulty, I just think it's an overclocking dud...

Or do you guys think I can or should give it more voltage?

I just want to run it at 3 Ghz for everyday use. Temps with XP-90C and Panaflo are 36 Idle/47 load at 1.586V.

Any suggestions would be greratly appreciated...

Thanks

:(

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

it can handle more vcore......

[Geebs]

Fragman']it can handle more vcore......

Up to what voltage would you suggest?

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

i dont think 1.65 should put it in any danger

[Geebs]

Fragman']i dont think 1.65 should put it in any danger

Thanks [G.N.U.]Fragman'],

I will give it a shot when I get my monitor back from Hyundai... it just decided to go berszerk on me...

You think up to that volyage will be ok for 24/7 usage?


:toast:

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

well my old barton was a 130nm cpu and ran with nearly 1.85 most of its life.....with air cooling....so i think its ok :) ..i know they have a lot of differences but 1.65 should not be something to worry about...

[jagt]

Got a new 4000+ Sandy 0518 TPAW today. Seems to be MUCH MUCH better than my previous POS 3700+ 0516 MPMW that topped out at 2.55GHz. It's upstairs priming at 2.9GHz (242x12) right now. Running low memclocks to make sure I find the max spot for the CPU. Anyway, I'm still running a pair of good old OCZ EB with micron -5BC, and I was wondering if anyone knows what bios I should use for these? I'm currently using the old 310P, which seems to be okay, really.

[pumbertot]

Got a new 4000+ Sandy 0518 TPAW today. Seems to be MUCH MUCH better than my previous POS 3700+ 0516 MPMW that topped out at 2.55GHz. It's upstairs priming at 2.9GHz (242x12) right now. Running low memclocks to make sure I find the max spot for the CPU. Anyway, I'm still running a pair of good old OCZ EB with micron -5BC, and I was wondering if anyone knows what bios I should use for these? I'm currently using the old 310P, which seems to be okay, really.


probably the 702-3 or maybe the 702-1. try them both to find out which is more stable with the microns. btw what vcore did you require for 2.9GHz? my 3700 needs 1.58V for 2.9GHz.

[jagt]

probably the 702-3 or maybe the 702-1. try them both to find out which is more stable with the microns. btw what vcore did you require for 2.9GHz? my 3700 needs 1.58V for 2.9GHz.
Well, I don't know if it's stable yet, as it's only primed for half an hour, but it's at 1.55v in bios, while smartguaridian shows 1.52v.
I was thinking of trying the 510-2 FIX, to see if that does anything. Wasn't there some vcore bug with the 702's?

[pumbertot]

Well, I don't know if it's stable yet, as it's only primed for half an hour, but it's at 1.55v in bios, while smartguaridian shows 1.52v.
I was thinking of trying the 510-2 FIX, to see if that does anything. Wasn't there some vcore bug with the 702's?

no its the 704s that have the vcore bug. of course vx is different, but I found the 510-2 FIX dropped my VX overclocks by a few MHz so dont recommend it.

[jagt]

Alright, thanks. I'll try the 702's. Seems like I've found the max of my CPU. It's primestable at 2.9GHz, and it benches up to 2.95. But anything over that results in an instant lock-up in '01. My goal right now is 265x11.

[Crazykooter]

Alright, thanks. I'll try the 702's. Seems like I've found the max of my CPU. It's primestable at 2.9GHz, and it benches up to 2.95. But anything over that results in an instant lock-up in '01. My goal right now is 265x11.
I am also playing the bios game to find the best one. I am going to use the 510 fix just to see how it does. If its not any better then I guess I wll flash to the 702 bios. 2915 mhz was my 24/7 speed until I installed xp64. Let us know how it works out for ya and ill do the same.

[jagt]

I'm testing the official 623 bios now. Seems nice. Looks like I gained a few more MHz' memtest stable. There's a new option in this bios that I don't know what is though: "DRAM+ 0.3V if it's not 3.2v" What's this?

[Geebs]

I'm testing the official 623 bios now. Seems nice. Looks like I gained a few more MHz' memtest stable. There's a new option in this bios that I don't know what is though: "DRAM+ 0.3V if it's not 3.2v" What's this?

It's basically extra voltage for the vdimm if your mobo is undervolting the memory. It seems to give me .4 volts extra. If I set my vdimm to 2.7V, it will read 2.76V with a DMM. When I use the +0.3V option, it bumps my vdimm to 2.8V. It gives even more of a bump the higher I set my vdimm. I noticed with my 4000 VX that if I set 3.2V, the vdimm would read 3.28V with the DMM, but with the +0.3V option on, it reads 3.37V.

[LenniZ]

Ok so I got A CABHE 0518 WPAW, does it clock any good ? I tried searching..

[asianguy80]

I jumped in on the deal from Monarch 2 weeks ago on the 3700+ and my steppings are as follows:

CABGE 0521 VPAW

I've done some searching and I've never seen ANY VPAW's around. This is the first I've seen posted anywhere. I don't have my system up and running yet. I've googled the stepping and nothing comes up. Strange. I've run out of AS5 so I can't test the chip. Maybe some people with 052x can post their results. I saw one person with a 0522 and it couldn't do over 2.5ghz (?) Hope you guys can help me out.

[afireinside]

Anyone order a 3700+ sandy from ZZF recently? I'll be ordering one tomorrow, hope I get a good one :D

[Runner]

Maybe some people with 052x can post their results. I saw one person with a 0522 and it couldn't do over 2.5ghz (?) Hope you guys can help me out.

Mines not quite that bad, but it takes a lot of volts to get it to FX57 speed, at least compared to some. CABGE 0522XPBW 2.8ghz@1.61v.

[ugp]

Guys check out this thread I started on getting a water cooling setup on my system if you could please. Any information would be great...

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=71133

[The Runner]

mines arrived its cabge 0522tpmw, i guess the 0522's are the current batch, most people seem to think they suck, yay for me :)

[ImportantAwareness89]

Ehhh.. I'll be trying the CPU out on Wed. or Thursday. I'm still memtesting right now and I plan to load Windows tonight.

I have a CABGE 0522 XPMW.

BTW, for those people running at "stock voltage" is this 1.35 or 1.4? And if you're a DFI guy what do you set your % to for "stock voltage?" I dont know if its a good idea to start at 1.35 @ 100% and see how high I can clock this thing, and then slowly bump up...

[Lithan]

San Diego 3700+ 0526APBW

2800mhz prime stable @ 1.68-1.73vcore. About on par with my good venices... just needs a touch more volts than they did.


Might add that it has the god of memory controllers. If the ram can do it, it's stable with this sucker.

[ugp]

I have still yet to find the right BIOS for mine...I haven't had any luck overclocking at all...

I finally went to stock settings and took the other 1GB set of OCZ from my old PC and threw it in this one to make 2GB now.

[chuckd]

Anyone order a 3700+ sandy from ZZF recently? I'll be ordering one tomorrow, hope I get a good one :D

Did you get yours from zzf yet? Mine's shipping out today and I was wondering what week you got.

yup
~charlie

[ugp]

I ordered mine about a month ago from them...

[Budwise]

mine wont even do FX57 speeds, to get FX55 speeds Prime stable it needs 1.66Vcore which im not willing to give 24/7. CABGE 0516 MPMW

[afireinside]

Did you get yours from zzf yet? Mine's shipping out today and I was wondering what week you got.

yup
~charlie


Naw I ordered the 9th and the idiots didn't ship it out on the 10th so I won't have it till monday :stick:

[chuckd]

Naw I ordered the 9th and the idiots didn't ship it out on the 10th so I won't have it till monday :stick:

That's crappy. I ordered mine on the 9th too, and it looks like it did ship yesterday and should get here tom. wonder what happened to yours. :confused:

~charlie

[Tim]

San Diego 3700+ 0526APBW

2800mhz prime stable @ 1.68-1.73vcore. About on par with my good venices... just needs a touch more volts than they did.


Might add that it has the god of memory controllers. If the ram can do it, it's stable with this sucker.


1.68-1.73vcore.

How much?!! That is not on water I hope.... :eek:

I have a CABGE 0522 which only does ~2670 Mhz absolut max...can anyone please confirm if the 0522 suck? I think they do...

Can you guys point me to more week 22's? Thanks.

[ImportantAwareness89]

Tim: I have a CABGE 0522. I don't have screens for you yet but I will soon.

I can hit about 2.6 GHz with 1.4 volts (1.35 * 104%) but when I try 2.67 GHz, it requires a voltage jump. I'm testing 1.47 right now. 1.449v fails after 16 min of OCCT. I will have a 8 hr prime shot hopefully by tomorrow morning....

Edit: Stupid me forgot to drop the memory divider down a bit. I don't want to be stressing my memory for this CPU test.

Edit: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=999461&postcount=184

2.67 works. I'm going for 2.71 now.

[afireinside]

That's crappy. I ordered mine on the 9th too, and it looks like it did ship yesterday and should get here tom. wonder what happened to yours. :confused:

~charlie

It's coming today!!! They just didn't update the status and send me the tracking number till 1am...

[Tim]

Tim: I have a CABGE 0522. I don't have screens for you yet but I will soon.

I can hit about 2.6 GHz with 1.4 volts (1.35 * 104%) but when I try 2.67 GHz, it requires a voltage jump. I'm testing 1.47 right now. 1.449v fails after 16 min of OCCT. I will have a 8 hr prime shot hopefully by tomorrow morning....

Edit: Stupid me forgot to drop the memory divider down a bit. I don't want to be stressing my memory for this CPU test.

Edit: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=999461&postcount=184

2.67 works. I'm going for 2.71 now.

Thanks mate, keep me informed please :)

[chuckd]

It's coming today!!! They just didn't update the status and send me the tracking number till 1am...

3700+ just got devlivered to my office. CABGE 0522XPMW. We'll see how she does when I get home this afternoon. :)

~charlie

[afireinside]

Cabge 0521 Vpaw

[ImportantAwareness89]

my 3700+ CABGE 0522XPBW @ 2,800GHZ "280X10" 1.55v "Stock cooler lol"
Gskill DSU2F1LA 1GB @ 280 2.5 3 3 8 1T
DFI LP NF4 ULTRA-D

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8920/29spi0iu.th.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=29spi0iu.jpg)


What is your voltage you set in BIOS? CPU-z is very off. I get 1.36 in software when I'm really at 1.41 or something... yea... Does your Sandy prefer 11x or 10x multipliers? Just wondering cuz I got an 0522 like you too

[asianguy80]

Cabge 0521 Vpaw

I have the same stepping but I haven't had time to test it yet. Let me know your results when u get them :)

[afireinside]

2.75 3d stable "ghettotek watercooled" ;) Water is probably around 35C since 30C ambiant and its after my x800 in loop.

[Perc]

just picked one of these up to tide me over. the stepping is 0518WPAW CABHE just got it in my phase and started messing with it. not sure if its going to be a good one or not? seems that the chip doesnt like the 11x multi over 230 1:1 wich seems odd cause 10x i can get 280 and hope to get atleast 300x10 before its starts taping out on me.... looking at the oc section these 3700's are getting some sick oc's! i was praying i got one like those guys have but i may have gotten a lemon? too early to say ill i gues seeings how ive only had it going 20 mins tops!



peace perc,

[eagle101]

is there only one fx57 (939) the san diego to buy?

[Primoz78]

Just got my 3700+ SD...anybody knows if this is a good stepping...CABHE 0525UPMW?...I`m not home at the moment and I can`t wait...;

Regards,
Primoz

[Dani]

I saw today an FX57 0520MPMW 0021 but it cost +1.1k€ so that's it :cord:

How about these 4000+ SD, any good with new steping?
What's the newest stepping on 4000+ SD 05**?

Is it worth to try :D

[Primoz78]

...the SD 3700+ metnioned above is not so good...i can hit 2,75ghz but with 1,6V :slapass: not much faster than my Venice at 300*9...I`m thinking of returning it and go for an X2 3800+ :rolleyes:

Regards,
Primoz

[chefnr1]

This is my FX57 on air just surf stable but anyway on air bech stable at 3189mhz on air
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=32645
http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload4/PICT1119.jpg
have this monster cooler with a tornado 80mm on , seems to look good for OC with DI on next friday:)
sorry forgott the stepping on it CABCE 0516WPMW

[pumbertot]

This is my FX57 on air just surf stable but anyway on air bech stable at 3189mhz on air
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=32645
http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload4/PICT1119.jpg
go this monster cooler with a tornado 80mm on , seem to look good for OC with DI on next friday:)
sorry forgott the stepping on it CABCE 0516WPMW


nice and i like that setup in your rig. this cpu will fly when you freeze its ass off. yikes the noise of an 80mm screamer! :D

[chefnr1]

HAHA yes that tornado on att over 6000rpm you need earplugs the noise from it goes through walls :)
the temps on it in idle is 34-35c and on full load load cpu stresstest 42-43c at vcore 1,52v

[Riverna]

My 0524XPMW is very bad. 2250Mhz with 1.4v is the highest stable setting :( Is the UPAW or UPMW 0525 better?

[Primoz78]

My 0524XPMW is very bad. 2250Mhz with 1.4v is the highest stable setting :( Is the UPAW or UPMW 0525 better?

I have left it burning over the night and now started Prime...will see if it is stable when come home from work...hope it is :rolleyes: For now I can get 250*11 at 1.6V...Water cooling is under construction and when it will be done I will rise the voltage to 1.7V and hope I can get further.... :rolleyes:

Regards,
Primoz

[Autochthon]

It looks like you might be able to mount 2 - 25mm x 80mm fans front and back. It should be quieter. I'm curious how it would compare moving air over the radiator fins.

[Primoz78]

I have a SD 3700+ and it is not a good OC-er...I can get to 250*11 but stable with 1,64V...after burn in (and it get to about 62°C in full load at 1,64V)...so I`m indecided to take it or just buy it (I have a buyer) and go for an X2 3800+ E6...any suggestions?

Regards,
Primoz

[Dani]

My new 4000+ SD 0524XPBW 2603MHz @ 1.39Vcore AIR Prime95 Large now for 21h30min

Will try 2650MHz @ 1.39V ;)

[Crazykooter]

I have a SD 3700+ and it is not a good OC-er...I can get to 250*11 but stable with 1,64V...after burn in (and it get to about 62°C in full load at 1,64V)...so I`m indecided to take it or just buy it (I have a buyer) and go for an X2 3800+ E6...any suggestions?

Regards,
Primoz
Just keep burning it in. I am sure it will oc more in time.

[Primoz78]

Just keep burning it in. I am sure it will oc more in time.


Ok mate...I`ll try to burn-in for another 10 days...and wait for better results :rolleyes: But if I try to get 255*11 at any voltage CPU burn-in run just for a few minutes than reset the comp... :confused:

Regards,
Primoz

[Dani]

My new 4000+ SD 0524XPBW 2603MHz @ 1.39Vcore AIR Prime95 Large now for 21h30min

Will try 2650MHz @ 1.39V ;)
2702MHz @ 1.39V Prime95 LARGE for +15h with ZM7700CU ;)
Gonna try if 2.8GHz will Prime @ 1.39V :eek:

[Crazykooter]

I put my IHS back onto my 3700 SD and gained back my oc. I was stuck at 2800 mhz max with it naked and now with it back on I can do 2904 mhz again. Go figure. Some get lucky without IHS and some like me dont. The reason I put it back on tho was due to the resistors on the cpu were touching the water block which wasnt good at all imo. I will post some screen shots once I get it tested out more. I play BF2 for 2 hrs and if it doesnt crash then its stable as a rock. Prime95 is a joke Imo. Fails when it shouldnt.

[Dani]

Prime95 is a joke Imo. Fails when it shouldnt.
Run OCCT then for 30min. ;)
OCCT (http://www.ocbase.com/occt.html)

[chuckd]

Goddness I've had the worst time with my computer the past few days. OCZ wound up replacing my ram (terrible RMA experience). Got replaced with some of the new TCC5 (i assume it is, since it says v1.1 on the sticker). My memory overclock still pretty much sucks. Can't go over 240 or so. But on to what this thread is all about. I've got a 3700+ CABGE 0522XPMW stable at 270x10 1.55v. I think it will still be stable at lower volts, too (or higher clock for that matter). Running a 166 mem divider so memory is only at 225. 20 hour prime stable. Haven't done too much tinkering cause I just got the system back up yesterday and managed to kill the bios today (that was fun to fix). I'm sure I'll get more into it this weekend. Oh, it's with an XP90 and panaflo fan.

yup
charlie

[igor0203]

I have 3700+ SD like Primoz78 and this stepping sucks! (CABHE 0525UPMW) I can hit only 2750MHZ on 1.58V... :(

[seldomsean]

Well im waiting on an RMA for my GPU...
before i can set up my new rig... :(


Here is the stepping CABGE 0524XPAW

Anyone running this stepping...?

[Crazykooter]

Run OCCT then for 30min. ;)
OCCT (http://www.ocbase.com/occt.html)
It passes occt every time but fails prime. Never had much luck with prime. I think its way to sensitive for my liking.