View Full Version : Opteron without registered RAM - Possible?
Noldor
05-03-2005, 05:06 AM
Hey!
Is there some opteron board which would allow me to go dual opteron without having to use registered RAM?
I read somewhere that it should be possible on some board(s) but I could be mistaken?
Thanks!
perkam
05-03-2005, 05:15 AM
All Opteron procs have integrated memory controllers that demand registered ram...so you cant get out of that hole quite as easily. ;)
Though there is some good performing registered ram out there which, along with the relatively good overclocking Asus SK8N, should help out ;)
However, if you havent bought the parts for the opteron rig yet, might I suggest not going that route, firstly because of its apparent cost, and secondly because of lack of overclocking potential....unless you ARE running a server.
Perkam
[XC] leviathan18
05-03-2005, 05:19 AM
perkam what about dual core coming quite soon ??? even if he wants a server a dual core can do that with non registered ram
Noldor
05-03-2005, 05:24 AM
Havn't bought anything yet. Still considering all ups and downs with all systems. Basicly what I want is a system that can handle whatever I throw at it. I would like to be able to play games at high FPS while having IRC up, downloading some stuff and burning CD's at the same time. I'm sure dual LV Xeons can handle it, but do they, clocked at 3.2-3.4GHz have the power required to compete in gaming with the opterons? Multitasking would be great, but raw speed in games would lag beheind some. Another thing which makes me a bit hesitant is the fact that 2 gigs of ram will be hard to run at above 230+ 2-2-2-5 speeds. Still considering if i should buy two sepparate machines. One gamer and one to handle all downloads, all ripping and burning etc. I'd rather have one machine do it all though. Cheaper and more practical.
Quanticles
05-03-2005, 05:54 AM
I dont think you want to build an opteron system. Opteron motherboards cost on the order of $1000, as well as the processors themselves. If you build a 2P system then you are already talking about $3000 w/o even buying ram, graphics, etc.
I'd imagine the chipsets that go to the opterons arent as good for gaming either.
go for a dual core A64 system.......that should do it :D
should be able to buy soon
perkam
05-03-2005, 08:13 AM
go for a dual core A64 system.......that should do it :D
should be able to buy soon
I second that.....no use wasting your money here when you do that with AMD's outrageous pricing on its dual cores :D
Perkam
drcrawn
05-03-2005, 11:17 AM
I think in general the Via chipset SK8V is a better board than the NForce3 SK8N. Neither has bus locks though, so to some extent it's a toss up. Clock for clock all tests show the SK8V faster. I'm on that board and have found it to be very reliable and overclocker friendly.
Corsair and OCZ both make good overclocking registered sticks, but availiblity is kinda getting scarce, I have been unable to find OCZ's PC3500 and when I tried to get some last year it didnt go well...and I never got it. The Corsair 3500 I have does well and responds well to vdimm :)
[XC] leviathan18
05-03-2005, 02:04 PM
as i said better dual core the cheaper one should be fine and you can throw whatever you want to it
OC Detective
05-03-2005, 06:03 PM
In reply to your original question yes there is a mobo that does not require registered RAM for Opterons.
shadowing
05-03-2005, 06:15 PM
Wasn't there one from Abit? Did it get canceled or something?
OC Detective
05-03-2005, 06:31 PM
Still showing on their site.
http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/server/server_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=WN-2S%2B&fMTYPE=Workstation+Boards&DEFTITLE=Y
STEvil
05-03-2005, 07:52 PM
Tyan has one too.
Filter
05-04-2005, 07:50 AM
though of just buying a 2nd system to do your irc and cd burnign on then play games on the other?
[XC] leviathan18
05-04-2005, 01:37 PM
a intel system to do irc and burning things xD
Gsus_Freak
05-04-2005, 02:35 PM
We have some operton boxes at the work place. If you get the 940 pin OP, EEC is not an option to turn off with most all MB. With the 939 however, there is wide selection of non-EEC boards avalible.
For most office enviroments, you need an OP and not an A64. There is not A64 board with PCX support and for most of us, that is a must.
$a1Ty
05-04-2005, 02:39 PM
yeah build two systems, a gaming rig and have it seperated from the net, have a general use comp which is connected to the net so it can take all the spyware and other crap from the internet leaving your gaming rig clean
shadowing
05-04-2005, 02:46 PM
I think I'll use the abit one to actually oc. It'd be interesting to have a dual core dual processor rig up. :D
EDIT: Was it already released? If it is, is it for only specific companies to buy it?
EDIT 2: I was just thinking. Can a socket 939 work in a 940 board?
I think I'll use the abit one to actually oc. It'd be interesting to have a dual core dual processor rig up. :D
EDIT: Was it already released? If it is, is it for only specific companies to buy it?
EDIT 2: I was just thinking. Can a socket 939 work in a 940 board?
no 940 and 939 arent compatible at all
that abit board can have opterons without registered ram i believe.
shadowing
05-04-2005, 05:36 PM
that abit board can have opterons without registered ram i believe.
Yes it can. But it must be a certain revision.
Btw, if the Opterons not using registered ram, can it actually rival its Athlon 64 counterparts?
STEvil
05-04-2005, 06:40 PM
probably.
shadowing
05-04-2005, 06:47 PM
Guys, I believe the Abit one won't come out. Its not even up on the front page...
STEvil
05-04-2005, 08:14 PM
thats because the board has been out for about 2-3 months.
shadowing
05-04-2005, 08:22 PM
thats because the board has been out for about 2-3 months.
It has? Any links to where I can get it?
OC Detective
05-04-2005, 09:26 PM
The abit one might be difficult to get.
http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=42677
notoriousformula
05-05-2005, 03:35 AM
Hey!
Is there some opteron board which would allow me to go dual opteron without having to use registered RAM?
I read somewhere that it should be possible on some board(s) but I could be mistaken?
Thanks!
Not sure if you can go Dual Opteron..But you sure can go Dual-Core :)
Read (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=848380#post848380)
tristancarton
05-07-2005, 06:54 PM
another individual wanting to know if anyone can find that abit opteron board that doesn't need registered ram. anyone?
saratoga
05-07-2005, 09:06 PM
I don't think the board will make a big difference. Either way you're loading the memory bus on the Opteron a lot harder by not using buffered RAM. Evidently it can handle the load, but don't expect to load up 8 DIMMs and still have it boot :)
shadowing
05-07-2005, 09:10 PM
We need a reseller to buy the Abit WN-2S+!!
I want one. :'(
tristancarton
05-08-2005, 06:17 AM
shadow, yeah i know. i just posted over at pcper in an abit represented area. hopefully they will respond. i also sent them an email.
i really want one becuase i could buy the board and two 244s (around two hundred a piece) and have an amazing system for minimal price. then later, when prices have gone down i could go for two dual core opterons!!! imagine a four core box. drool.
mackanz
05-08-2005, 08:40 AM
Abit only produced about 90 boards of this model before they decided to call it a day on the server front. No boards actually made it out from the factory.
shadowing
05-08-2005, 08:44 AM
Abit only produced about 90 boards of this model before they decided to call it a day on the server front. No boards actually made it out from the factory.
How do you know this?
If they did, they just crushed my day. :(