List of RAM with Winbond UTT chips

[babyelf]

1. OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel Gold (OCZ4001024ELDCGE-K)
New Winbond BH-5 chips
Product Link : OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_3200_dual_channel_gold)
Where to buy : Atacom (http://www.atacom.com/program/print_html_new.cgi?cart_id=7903442_203_122_194_240&FCODE=OCZT_MESS_MESD_MEDD_MERA_MESE_MEME_MEMS_MEFL _MENO_MEPR&Item_code=MEDD_OCZT_AG_G8&USER_ID=www) , Monarch (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=140509)
Readings and user's results : Xtremesystems (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=58374) , Anandtech (http://anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2392)
Other information : OCZ warranties this module up to 3.0v -/+ 5%
Price : USD194.95 at Atacom (http://www.atacom.com/program/print_html_new.cgi?cart_id=7903442_203_122_194_240&FCODE=OCZT_MESS_MESD_MEDD_MERA_MESE_MEME_MEMS_MEFL _MENO_MEPR&Item_code=MEDD_OCZT_AG_G8&USER_ID=www) 1GB Kit

2. Mushkin Blue C2 PC3200 DDR 2-3-3
How to identify : Part number 99xxxx
Product Link : Mushkin (http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushkin.storefront/425cda9c01f548dc2740c0a80102064b/Product/View/991140)
Where to buy : Outpost (http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4292564)
Readings and user's results : Xtremesystems (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56685)
Price : USD59.99 for 512mb at Outpost (http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4292564)

3. GSkill 1gb-GH pc3200 2-2-2-5 (new BH-5) *Brain Power PCB*
Product Link : G.Skill (http://www.gskill.com/f1-3200bwu2.html)
Where to buy : Digi4me (http://digi4me.com/product.php?productid=895&cat=61&page=1) , Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-231-013&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE), Mittoni Australia (http://www.mittoni.com.au/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/1983)
Product Press Release : G.Skill (http://www.gskill.com/press%2020050411.html)
Readings and user's results : Xtremesystems - Official GSkill 1gb-GH pc3200 2-2-2-5 info and results (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=58386)
Price : digi4me = 205 Digi4me (http://digi4me.com/product.php?productid=895&cat=61&page=1) 1GB Kit
newegg = 197

If u're in Australia i recommend nintek (http://www.nintek.com.au) to get the OCZ sticks. Great store, nice people. :toast:
4. OCZ 3200VX OCZ4001024ELDCGEVX-K *Brain Power PCB*
Product Link : OCZ (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_3200_gold_vx)
Where to buy : Atacom (http://www.atacom.com/program/atacom.cgi?USER_ID=www&cart_id=682678_209_90_112_244&SEARCH=SEARCH_ALL&ordered_number=&KEYWORDS=OCZ4001024ELDCGEVX-K)
Readings and user's results : Xtremesystems (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47990) , Xtremesytems (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56898) , Anandtech (http://anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2392)
Other information : OCZ warranties this module up to 3.5V
Price : USD203.95 at Atacom (http://www.atacom.com/program/atacom.cgi?USER_ID=www&cart_id=682678_209_90_112_244&SEARCH=SEARCH_ALL&ordered_number=&KEYWORDS=OCZ4001024ELDCGEVX-K) 1GB Kit

5. OCZ 4000VX OCZ500512ELGEVX *Brain Power PCB*
Product Link : OCZ (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_4000_gold_vx)
Readings and user's results : Xtremesystems (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47990) , Xtremesytems (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56898) , Anandtech (http://anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2392)
Other information : OCZ warranties this module up to 3.5V
Price : USD259.95 at Atacom (http://www.atacom.com/program/atacom.cgi?KEYWORDS=MEDD_OCZT_AG_G1&USER_ID=www&SEARCH=SEARCH_ALL) 1GB Kit

6. Twinmos - TwinMOS DDR400 / M.tec DDR400 / Twinmos Speed Premium 3200 and 3500 *KO-6633 pcb - Hsien Jinn 6-layer reference PCB*
How to Identify :
AA4T = UTT (improved CH-5)
1A4T = New BH-5
Where to buy : Komplett (http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=308282&cks=PRL)
Product Link : Twinmos (http://www.twinmos.com/dram_info.htm#2)
Readings and user's results : Extreme Overclocking EOCF (http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=154258) , Xtremesystems (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=49229) , Xtremesystems (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=774504#post774504)

7. OCZ Value VX (VX but unbinned by OCZ NOW USES BH-5 UTT)
How to identify : OCZ400512WV3 *must have W there*
How to identify whether it's BH or CH? here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=910813&postcount=3)
Where to buy : Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-227-212&depa=1) , Atacom (http://www.atacom.com/program/print_html_new.cgi?cart_id=7115173_130_212_162_40&Pagecode=SEARCH_ALL&Item_code=MEDD_OCZT_AG_C2&USER_ID=www)
Readings and user's results : Anandtech (http://anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2392) , Xtremesystems (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54168&highlight=Geil+UTT)
Price : USD114.95 at Atacom (http://www.atacom.com/program/print_html_new.cgi?cart_id=7115173_130_212_162_40&Pagecode=SEARCH_ALL&Item_code=MEDD_OCZT_AG_C2&USER_ID=www) 1GB Kit

8. Geil Ultra-X (newer sticks are UTT)
How to identify : PN1234 on the module (yet to be confirmed)
Readings and user's results : Geil USA - confirmed by Geil themself (http://www.geilusa.com/forum2/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=591&whichpage=2) , Xtremesystems - someone got UTT chips (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56460&highlight=Geil+UTT) , Xtremesystems (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55860&highlight=Geil+UTT)

9. Corsair 3200C2v1.5 Confirmed New BH-5
How to Identify : CMX512-3200C2PT XMS3202v1.5 0513087-0 = Winbond -5 Rev B UTT (Have to get more details on revision and other modules)
Product Link : Corsair (http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/xms.html)
Readings and user's results : House of Help Support Forums (http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35940&page=7&pp=15)
So far only 2 revision1.5 modules have been identified. They are made at almost the same date :
Week 12 Year 05
Week 13 Year 05
A few people just ordered some 3200C2v1.5, will update later whether it's UTT based

10. Geil Value RAM using winbond UTT chips *Brain Power PCB*
How to Identify : Geil told customers to check with 2.85V 2-2-2-5 for UTT
2 of them with UTT chips have this PN:
PN : 1074-SN5001730
PN : 1259-SN5001385
PN : 1075-SN5001842
Look for Serial number with SN500xxxx and part number GE1GB3200BHDC
cpu-z reports the serial no. 20020725
Manufacturing date: week 255, year 255
Official Answer from Geil : Geil (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=816771&postcount=27)
Readings and user's results : Xtremesystems (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=816180#post816180)
This is not Geil UTT.. so if u find these please take note
http://img223.echo.cx/img223/2304/hpim03524qc.th.jpg (http://img223.echo.cx/my.php?image=hpim03524qc.jpg)

11. Kreton VT 512mb
How to identify : Look at IC, there's no heatspreader
Thanks to Ubermann for the information

12. Vdata *Brain Power PCB*
How to identify : Look at IC, there's no heatspreader
Where to buy : Pantip Plaza (biggest IT shopping mall in Thailand) and Tawanna Plaza, overclockers (http://www.overclockers.se/ItemInfo?itemId=37716055) sweden
Readings and user's results : Vdata (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=824485&postcount=15)
Price : USD44-48 for 512mb
Thanks to ausasua for the information

13. Ace Ram *Brain Power PCB*
How to identify : Look at IC, there's no heatspreader
Where to buy : Pantip Plaza (biggest IT shopping mall in Thailand) and Tawanna Plaza
Price : USD37-39 for 512mb
Thanks to ausasua for the information


14. Corsair 3200C2v1.4 new BH-6??
How to Identify : TwinX1024-3200C2 v1.4 Winbond -6 Rev B UTT IC's
Product Link : Corsair (http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/xms.html)
Readings and user's results : House of Help Support Forums (http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37950&highlight=UTT)

15. Geil Ultra-X XL 1.5-2-2-5
Readings and user's results : PcStats (http://www.pcstats.com/releaseview.cfm?ReleaseID=1248)

16. COMPUTERSMSA UTT *Brain Power PCB*
Readings and user's results : Bel Hardware (http://www.bel-hardware.be/forum/viewtopic.php?id=500), XS (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=898433&postcount=118)

17. OCZ 3500GX 2-2-2-5 2.8V
Product link : OCZ (http://www.ocztechnology.com/aboutocz/press/2005/136)

18. Corsair CMX512 6.1 ( TwinX1024-3200 )
Product link : Corsair (http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/xms.html)
Readings and user's results : Xtremesystems (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=934183&postcount=208), Xtremesystems (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=931057&postcount=207)

17. Mushkin Redline 3200, 3500, 4000
Product link : Mushkin (http://www.mushkin.com/Default.asp)
Readings and user's results :Xtremesystems (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=61037), OPP's review (http://www.xtremesystems.com/index.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=4)


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If you have a RAM that you don't know whether it's winbond or not check for this few things
1. 2 dimples on the ram itself
2. 2 metal sticking out from the side of the IC
3. For Kingston memory, please mail kingston and ask them. Provide them with information on the sticker of the ram.
4. For corsair go to IC Inquiry Thread (http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=185094#post185094) in House of Help Support Forums

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If i missed out any please let me know. If you know some things that might interest forum members as well please let me know and i'll add it to the list.

Incomplete - International Vendors
If you can't get the ram you want from where you are there are a few shops that do international orders :
1. Outpost (http://www.outpost.com)
2. Digi4me (http://www.Digi4me.com)
3. PC Memory Upgrade UK (http://www.pc-memory-upgrade.co.uk/)

Need some help compiling international vendor's list. :D

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updated : new international vendor and new vendor for value vx added to the list
updated : G.Skill new bh-5 is out, added where to buy
updated : Corsair XMS3200C2PT XMS3202v1.5 = Winbond -5 Rev B UTT
updated : DFI NF4 boards jp17 settings warning and new bios to fix it
updated : Prices shown on page is cheapest i found
updated : Geil Value UTT added to the list
updated : added vendor for Twinmos SP3500
updated : added 3 modules (Kreton VT, Vdata and Ace ram)
updated : Corsair 3200C2v1.4 UTT BH-6
updated : Geil Ultra-X XL 1.5-2-2-5
updated : ComputersMSA UTT
updated : Added Mittoni Australia to G.Skill list
updated : Added OCZ 3500GX
updated : Added Corsair v1.6 and mushkin Redline

[saaya]

good job! :D :toast:

[babyelf]

thanks :)

was doing some shopping for UTT chips .. so might as well :p:

[KingYubbo]

Jah, nice work babyelf.

[Ubermann]

Kreton VT 512meg.
Some of this ones seems to have BH-5.
Pics of chips with correct chip, and pic of wrong chip.

[ausasua]

In Thailand :D

V-data with winbond UTT and brainpower pcb

http://www.vmodtech.com/spaw/images/Venom-Crusher/utt%20004.jpg
http://www.vmodtech.com/spaw/images/utt%20010.jpg
http://www.vmodtech.com/files/vdata08ab.jpg

ACE ram brainpower :D
http://www.vmodtech.com/files/ace08ab_498.jpg

Geil value pc3200 GE1GB3200BHDC PN1075-SN5001842
http://www.vmodtech.com/files/utt_01.jpg
http://www.vmodtech.com/files/001_199.jpg

and thanks to Shakespeare at Vmodtech :)
he told us about these ram :toast:

[perkam]

Very Nice, was thinking when we're gonna get one:

Three words for you: you the man !!

Perkam

[saaya]

nice ausasua! :toast:

[GazC]

Afaik, all OCZ memory uses the BP Pcb.

[xenolith]

It would be interesting to know if these V-data "VDBGB1916" have UTT.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=20-211-119&DEPA=1

$77 USD for possible 2X512MB UTT :eek:

[Vassili]

Hmm, that is cheap indeed, it's a shame we dont know fur sure if its is UTT, else I would have orded already a pack. :)

[babyelf]

updated 3 other modules thanks to ausasua and ubermann .. thanks guys

[babyelf]

Hmm, that is cheap indeed, it's a shame we dont know fur sure if its is UTT, else I would have orded already a pack. :)

the other cheap solutin would be geil's value ram and corsair 3200C2

[Onepagebook]

price on gskill would be wrong,

digi4me is 205
newegg is 197

[ausasua]

V-data UTT results :)

on priming at htt265 2-2-2-5-7-15 1T 3.6V :toast:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29044&stc=1

[babyelf]

prices changed OPB

forgot to update the price..

[babyelf]

V-data UTT results :)

on priming at htt265 2-2-2-5-7-15 1T 3.6V :toast:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29044&stc=1

nice man.. where in thailand did u get it from? and how much?

[ausasua]

my friend got it from Pantip Plaza (biggest IT shopping mall in Thailand) and Tawanna Plaza.

it costs USD44-48 for one stick of 512MB. and USD37-39 for ACE ram.

sorry for my bad english :)

[ianocean]

Confirmed 100% Geil Ultra X:PN-1243 is UTT

[babyelf]

kor pun kap (i think this is thank you.. haven't been using my thai for a while.. used to have a thai friend) ausasua

and thanks ianocean

[gundamit]

A very sticky worthy thread. Tip of the cap to babyelf. :clap:

Although NewEgg's Geil Value PC3200 512mb sticks are still showing the non BH manufactuer part numbers, I wonder if thats because they have not seen fit to create new SKU number/item for the revised model. A review dated 4/12 for the Geil Ultra Series Value Dual Channel Kit 1GB(512MBx2) PC-3200 w/ Blue Heatspreader (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-144-310&depa=0) does mention an OC to 240. Hmmm.... only $94 to find out. Tempting ...

[babyelf]

hmm i'm not sure.. but for that price.. very tempting indeed.. i wish they have newegg here in aussie...

altho u have your point there.. but think again.. newegg always change their part numbers when the product changes... but then they have the review...

at the moment the best way of getting the geil is to mail and ask for one.. or to walk in the shop and pick one yourself..

edit: he didn't say 240 2-2-2-5 and they still list it as 3200BDC only..so far the ones that uses UTT is 3200BHDC so i think they're still selling the old ones.. what say u?

[gundamit]

They have 99+ units in stock. They don't carry that much inventory on any other type/size of Value PC3200. I'm guessing they just restocked. If its new stock ... maybe its new BH? Or maybe Geil gave NewEgg a really good deal on the old stuff so Geil could clear their warehouses to make room for the new stuff. Until a member reports we can't know for sure. :confused:

[el_]

thanks maybe organize them by price so cheapest is at the top. The Gskill seems a little high at around 200 bucks shipped. Most of the others are 150 and lower.

[babyelf]

the g.skill is not the most expensive.. u're comparing it to the value lines...

[xenolith]

thanks maybe organize them by price so cheapest is at the top. The Gskill seems a little high at around 200 bucks shipped. Most of the others are 150 and lower.

Not if Gskill is speed binned like the more expensive OCZ. :slap:

[jrw]

V-data UTT results :)

on priming at htt265 2-2-2-5-7-15 1T 3.6V :toast:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29044&stc=1

What are those doing @ 3.2vdimm?

They seem to be sold in Sweden:
http://www.overclockers.se/ItemInfo?itemId=37716055

They cost around 80% of Twinmos Speedpremium - 40% of OCZ VX 3200 :toast:

[babyelf]

What are those doing @ 3.2vdimm?

They seem to be sold in Sweden:
http://www.overclockers.se/ItemInfo?itemId=37716055

They cost around 80% of Twinmos Speedpremium - 40% of OCZ VX 3200 :toast:


it's hard to tell... some modules perform better than others.. but normal sticks should get u to around 235-240 with 3.2v

[afireinside]

So are those 35 dollar Vdata sticks linked to on the egg UTT or no? 70 dollars a gig :slobber:

[cadaveca]

the vdata posted in the pics are the CH-5 vdata. the linked new egg are ch-5. The pics are the same ones i have. the overclockers is the bh-5.

[afireinside]

Those cheap ones are the NEW CH5 AKA UTT? NICEEEEE! I'm getting a pair. Where do you get BH5 Vdata?

[Micutzu]

Corsair 3200C2PT v1.4 are also UTT, at least all of the 6 sticks i've seen have Winbond chips. Here's a pic, 2X512MB at 247Mhz 2-2-2-5 1T with 3.4V:

http://www.crazypc.ro/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2012

[babyelf]

erm pic?

[GMX]

Are you sure the Geil Number is .....BHDC...??? I have searched all over and can only find BDC, google brings up nothing for BHDC.


To international vendors list: excaliberpc.com
They will be fixing their international shipping issues by May to mid May with reintroduction of USPS due to customer push (DHL/Fedex charging high)

[Lewis]

Are you sure the Geil Number is .....BHDC...??? I have searched all over and can only find BDC, google brings up nothing for BHDC.


To international vendors list: excaliberpc.com
They will be fixing their international shipping issues by May to mid May with reintroduction of USPS due to customer push (DHL/Fedex charging high)

http://www.geil.com.tw/portal/product_400_tv_dc.php

GE1GB3200BHDC

[GMX]

http://www.geil.com.tw/portal/product_400_tv_dc.php

GE1GB3200BHDC
Sorry thought it was GE10243200BDHC
But Thanks for clearing that up!

Seems odd. Someone here got 2x512mb BDC and claimed it to be UTT, so i assume BHDC=BH-5?

[Lewis]

I was thinking BHCD was UTT

not sure what BDC is :(

[SainT]

i have 512*2 vdata...-5b :p:

http://img256.echo.cx/img256/910/9x2601522033v6tl.jpg
with 3.3v :woot:

[SainT]

with 3.5v :eek:

http://img118.echo.cx/img118/7261/2672x91522036v7yg.jpg

[babyelf]

nice clocks.... damn... *calls travel agent.. planning a thailand trip*

[KingYubbo]

1.5-2-2-0??? Whaaa?

[SainT]

nice clocks.... damn... *calls travel agent.. planning a thailand trip*
I have bought them From Turkey :D

[babyelf]

*comparing prices... turkey.. thailand.." :p

how much did u get them for?

[SainT]

I got them 120$..both (:

I don't thınk they're utt...they are bh5 :D

[babyelf]

UTT bh-5??

hmm USD120? that's quite abit but worth the money

[afireinside]

I got the Vdata from newegg and it's NOT UTT :(

[babyelf]

awww.. hmmm

no way to ask them to check first before sending?

[jrw]

VData sold i Sweden, Scandinavia...

http://www.overclockers.se/ItemInfo?itemId=37716055

[babyelf]

thanks.. added to the list :)

[TEDY]

Twinmos
0515D
TMD 7608F8E50I

any ideas whar ram is this ?

[Ubermann]

One good Kreton VT stick in pic.
4 Passes at 270 then errors starts showing.
Single channel and interleaving ON.
Only place in Sweden to buy is at www.netvaruhuset.se

[NajZ]

Twinmos
0515D
TMD 7608F8E50I

any ideas whar ram is this ?


Powerchip Twinmos :stick:
i suggest getting rid off :D

[mike047]

Twinmos
0515D
TMD 7608F8E50I

any ideas whar ram is this ?

I have a set that runs 230 max at 2.97v, more voltage did not help[I can go 5.1v:D] so not too good compared to others reported. Mine was in a 2x256 twinmos TMII400 kit.

mike

[NajZ]

what timings?

[Playful_Buffalo]

good thread, thanks for making

[babyelf]

no probs :)

[babyelf]

updated with UTT BH-6 Corsair 3200C2v1.4

[Eldonko]

But how does one find out if its v1.4? Most retailers don't specify :(

[babyelf]

u have to check the sticker itself.. walk into the shop and check :)

or mail them and see if they're good enough to help u

[Harshal]

Hi Guys, Thanks for such a lovly thread. I need to know if I should really go for "Corsair TwinX 1024" Winbond-BH(5/6???)? A Shop in SLS, Singapore is saying dat it has those dimms. About 110 US$, is it ok? DO I get it anyways or DO I need to Check first? Plz suggest ASAP.

[babyelf]

if they say they have v1.5 or v1.4 then they are BH dies.. if they can confirm and guarantee u the revision then go for it :)

[Harshal]

if they say they have v1.5 or v1.4 then they are BH dies.. if they can confirm and guarantee u the revision then go for it :)

Thanks BabyElf,

I mailed the shop contact and he replied that they surely have Corsair TwinX based on Winbond BH-? dies... so I have asked my friend to get me a pair of those..... and I have also asked my cousin staying Singpore to get DFI NF4 Ultra D for me so I am gonna kick some but-t now with this setup.

Update when I have got the dope. ;) ......... :toast:

[FLD]

Hi Guys, Thanks for such a lovly thread. I need to know if I should really go for "Corsair TwinX 1024" Winbond-BH(5/6???)? A Shop in SLS, Singapore is saying dat it has those dimms. About 110 US$, is it ok? DO I get it anyways or DO I need to Check first? Plz suggest ASAP.

Can I ask which Corsair ram model are you exactly referring to?

[ianocean]

GEIL Ultra X XL 1.5-2-2-5 rated
http://www.pcstats.com/releaseview.cfm?ReleaseID=1248

Got one dual channel kit here
:toast:

[computersmsa]

Just info from Gskill, GBGH is UTT CH-5 0.13µm chips, not UTT BH-5 !

[babyelf]

Thanks BabyElf,

I mailed the shop contact and he replied that they surely have Corsair TwinX based on Winbond BH-? dies... so I have asked my friend to get me a pair of those..... and I have also asked my cousin staying Singpore to get DFI NF4 Ultra D for me so I am gonna kick some but-t now with this setup.

Update when I have got the dope. ;) ......... :toast:

let us know how it does :)


Just info from Gskill, GBGH is UTT CH-5 0.13µm chips, not UTT BH-5 !

thnx for the info computersmsa.. just wondering whether i can get a link or something so when i change it i can link to the information u have


GEIL Ultra X XL 1.5-2-2-5 rated
http://www.pcstats.com/releaseview.cfm?ReleaseID=1248

Got one dual channel kit here
:toast:

thnx ianocean.. any idea which die they have? i'm more on the UTT BH side.. but i'll just leave it first

[ianocean]

Might be the same IC like Redlines and OC better at CAS1.5 and boot at 2.5v DDR400

[babyelf]

hmm i'll have to check which IC redline is using.. thnx for the info

[Mr.President]

ich found some geil value
PN:1035-SN5001017
GE1GB3200BDC

are theese utt?

[babyelf]

it's still hard to tell for the geil at the moment... check the side of the IC and see whether u have 2 metal strips on the side..

[13oost]

ich found some geil value
PN:1035-SN5001017
GE1GB3200BDC

are theese utt?

generally needs BHDC to have any chance of winbond

4 solder balls on bottom = hybix
2 = winbond

[olDirdey]

9. Corsair 3200C2v1.5 Confirmed New BH-5
How to Identify : CMX512-3200C2PT XMS3202v1.5 0513087-0 = Winbond -5 Rev B UTT (Have to get more details on revision and other modules)
Product Link : Corsair (http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/xms.html)
Readings and user's results : House of Help Support Forums (http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35940&page=7&pp=15)
So far only 2 revision1.5 modules have been identified. They are made at almost the same date :
Week 12 Year 05
Week 13 Year 05
A few people just ordered some 3200C2v1.5, will update later whether it's UTT based




Is here anybody who can give me a link where to order this ram in USA / GB ?

Thank you!

[babyelf]

i think anywhere that sells corsair products will have them..

tried komplett?

[Harshal]

Hey guys.... Got the RAM (TwinX1024-3200) but mb is still a week or two away :( Even tho Im not feeling too well I did early tests and tho lable on sticks reads 3-3-3-8 (CPU-Z SPD 2.5-3-3-8), RAM is stable (playing EE-II and 3hrs of Sandra Burn Test) at 220MHZ as of now doing 2.5-3-3-6. I know not too great but MSI RS480 does this much and I must thank Mr. CPUZ for that. I will post results once "da powerhouse" arrives :)

[babyelf]

which ones did u get?

[Harshal]

I have got the "Corsair TwinX1024-3200" and its got sticker saying "CMX512-3200 XMS3200v6.1" Now I dont know if these are purly winbond-bh based or not but behaviour is same as my other Twinmos Winbond-CH5 based 1GB kit and so I hope this will be much better then Twinmos as Corsair is better product overall. The store in Singapore confirmed that these are Winbond-BH based sticks. I will come to know after I get DFI NF4 SLI D from Singapore.

[babyelf]

ahh cool.. where u got urs from singapore?

[Harshal]

I have got mine from Cybermind in Sim Lim Square, Singapore. They had about 20 more Kits when my friend went to get mine. But getting lucky is everything and we dont get lucky most of the time :/

Anyways thank you babyelf so much for you help with my quest to BH-*.

[babyelf]

no problem man.. Sim Lim ah? okok cool..

hope to see some good result from u soon :)

[high5]

hi guys. i'm new to this fourms, but i've been reading you for quite some time. ;)

this is what i've heard/read/seen:

corsair xms 3200c2:
v1.4 - utt ch
v1.5 - utt bh
anyway, only v1.x is winbond

as for geil value, i believe there are some infineon based stuff floating around. friend of mine recently bought some and removed h/s, ic's were relabeled (like all geils) but the ic itself had dot in one corner that wasn't exactly sitting right in the corner, but rather shifted to one side a bit. thats characteristic for infineon ic's.

i'd post pictures of the ic but i'm not able to attach them, when i click on 'manage attachments' button nothing happens?!? :confused:

[babyelf]

thnx for the info..

geil value is a bit hard to spot unless u really check them now.. let me know about it.. hmm find a image hoster and host it here

[13oost]

yea, geil value comes in BH-5, Hynix D43 and D5, also Infenon 5ns

[stealth17]

add Mushkin Redline XP3200, XP3500, and XP4000!

[babyelf]

lol yep.. will do.. anyone know which die is it? BH or CH?

[ianocean]

it's still hard to tell for the geil at the moment... check the side of the IC and see whether u have 2 metal strips on the side..
Yep there is such.Is there a difference between UTT CH-5 and BH-5

[babyelf]

i don't think u can tell the difference unless u test them with the CAS3 test

and BH-5 will do 2-2-2-5 with lower volts i reckon

[don_vercetti]

i'm sure i read that ch-5 "behaved like bh-5 on steroids". Presumably that is a good thing?
Anyway i've got geil value that is utt, dunno if bh-5 or ch-5. Behaves oddly for bh-5 though, i'm getting 2-3-2-11 at 235mhz, with 2.7v.

[babyelf]

sounds like bh-5 to me.. did u try whether it does 2-2-2-5 at 2.7v / 2.8v?

[don_vercetti]

no won't do 2-2-2 for love or money at 400mhz, and it memtest errors at 2.9v. Very odd RAm. And the reason i can't go higher than 235 is my mobo, rather than the RAM itself.

[ianocean]

sounds like bh-5 to me.. did u try whether it does 2-2-2-5 at 2.7v / 2.8v?
No memtest errors at DDR 400 2.6v 1.5-2-2-5.Can you diagnose what stuff i've got here?

[high5]

thnx for the info..

geil value is a bit hard to spot unless u really check them now.. let me know about it.. hmm find a image hoster and host it here
allright, here it goes...

http://img194.echo.cx/img194/5003/infineon53tenh200501et.th.jpg (http://img194.echo.cx/my.php?image=infineon53tenh200501et.jpg)

http://img194.echo.cx/img194/5256/infineon54tenside1rt.th.jpg (http://img194.echo.cx/my.php?image=infineon54tenside1rt.jpg)

[don_vercetti]

to tell geil value UTT, this is what you're after;
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=876172#post876172

[high5]

yeah, i know about utt stuff, but i've posted those pics so ppl who didn't get utt can identifiy what they've got.

[don_vercetti]

ok well i posted pics so people can tell if they do get UTT. Then everyone's curiosity is satisfied.

[high5]

:up:

[easypanic]

If these mushkin blue are UTT, they definitely :slapass: :(.

Someone can tell me if they are? Chips certainly don't look like UTT chips...

[babyelf]

allright, here it goes...

http://img194.echo.cx/img194/5003/infineon53tenh200501et.th.jpg (http://img194.echo.cx/my.php?image=infineon53tenh200501et.jpg)

http://img194.echo.cx/img194/5256/infineon54tenside1rt.th.jpg (http://img194.echo.cx/my.php?image=infineon54tenside1rt.jpg)

thnx for the image.. :)


If these mushkin blue are UTT, they definitely :slapass: :(.

Someone can tell me if they are? Chips certainly don't look like UTT chips...

part number does look correct.. where did u get it from? the chip don't look correct tho.. did u see the side of the chip for the 2 metal strip? i can't see clearly in the pic


No memtest errors at DDR 400 2.6v 1.5-2-2-5.Can you diagnose what stuff i've got here?

urs looks like bh-5 i reckon.. actually pretty sure it is bh-5


no won't do 2-2-2 for love or money at 400mhz, and it memtest errors at 2.9v. Very odd RAm. And the reason i can't go higher than 235 is my mobo, rather than the RAM itself.

it acts like one of my friend's geil UTT.. will do looser timings but 2-2-2-5 won't boot at all

[don_vercetti]

ye same here. Will boot at 333mhz though.

[babyelf]

have u tried 510-2 bios yet?

it worked for some value rams

[don_vercetti]

im still using nf2 ultra mate. No DFI for me, (that is a DFI bios i presume?)

[easypanic]

part number does look correct.. where did u get it from? the chip don't look correct tho.. did u see the side of the chip for the 2 metal strip? i can't see clearly in the pic


It has the same metal dots just like high5 posted ...

Strange thing is, one side of the stick has a round dot in the corner, other side of the stick doesn't have it.... :stick:

pc-memory-upgrade.co.uk is my supplier :)

[babyelf]

oh.. yea.. that is.. which nf2 board m8?

[TEDY]

Was there any problems with TWINMOS SPEED PREMIUM PC3500 BH-5 and MSI k8n neo 2 platinum

[babyelf]

It has the same metal dots just like high5 posted ...

Strange thing is, one side of the stick has a round dot in the corner, other side of the stick doesn't have it.... :stick:

pc-memory-upgrade.co.uk is my supplier :)

hmm.. i know the ones in outpost.com are UTT.. in the pic those are definitely not UTT..

i do'nt get the round dot thing.. care to explain in more detail? maybe a clearer pic?

Tedy.. i don't think there was an issue with the MSI board.. is there a problem with that setup for u?

[easypanic]

i do'nt get the round dot thing.. care to explain in more detail? maybe a clearer pic?


:cool:

Lower corner of the memchip

[babyelf]

hmm.. not sure what chip is that =.=

anyone have any idea?

[don_vercetti]

i'm using an nf7-s, l12 modded. Was using mantarays XT D26 bios, now switched to Merlins Ub3r D25 (testing purposes). Haven't tried 2-2-2 on d25 yet, not expecting much though.

[babyelf]

hmm.. i'll ask my friend to post.. he's using the nf7-s with some UTT and doing pretty well.. 230 2-2-2-11 2.96v after overvolting..

it could well be the sticks itself tho =/

[high5]

:cool:

Lower corner of the memchip
you sure it has 4 dots on the side (exactly like infineon i posted) and not 2 strips?

the dot looks like typical winbond. there's a revision of utt ch that has no dimples in the mid section of the ic. like on ocz value vx for instance:

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/memory/roundups/value/valVX.jpg

[don_vercetti]

oh im fairly sure it is the sticks themselves.

[Harshal]

Guys, I know I am asking wrong question here but knowledge is good and so How can I track Brain-Power PCB??? I mean is there a clear way to spot one?? As I did search and go to Legit-Review to check there review where they have shown Brainpower PBCs but its lil bit difficult for me to get from those dark pics...

[omga14]

if i'm not mistaken on onside of the brain power sticks there is an 808 or 815 stamped on it. here's a couple of pics i found.

http://forums.legitreviews.com/images/random/pcbs.jpg

and here's a link to an article that explains the differences between the pcb's.

Difference Between PCB's (http://www.legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=53)

[easypanic]

you sure it has 4 dots on the side (exactly like infineon i posted) and not 2 strips?


No strips
:idea:

[babyelf]

yer easypanic.. urs looks like infineon chips.. =/

[easypanic]

bad oc, +-225 2-3-3-6 , no matter what voltage :(

[13oost]

yea im running OCZ Value Series, im currently fine @ 2.6vdimm 2-2-2-5 200mhz and 2.96vdimm @ 2-2-2-5 230mhz

they Hynix i had on my Geil Value would do high frequencies with 2.5-2-2-11 (board maxed out at 238 :( NF7-S D26 Manatrays XT 2T ) but would never hit 2-2-2-X at 200.... Hynix will never see 2cas at any speed around or above 200mhz...

[high5]

bad oc, +-225 2-3-3-6 , no matter what voltage :(
according to that, it could be either infineon or mosel.

edit: seems like mosel to me, see attachment.

from mosel based ram review, check it out here (http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=44&num=1)

[Pt1t]

got this :
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/CSMA/memtest_265_3.4v.jpg.JPG

http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/0517/0517_3200_3118mhz_1.67v_BH5CSMAM_284mhz_3,8v.PNG

CMSAM new Bh5 + PCB Brain Power 808

http://www.bel-hardware.be/forum/viewtopic.php?id=500

[babyelf]

wow... nice

thnx for the info.. will update when i get home later

[babyelf]

edited with ComputersMSA UTT

[Pt1t]

edited with ComputersMSA UTT

Thx :toast:

I changed my Twinmos sp PC3500 for it .
2*512Mo ComputersMSA BH5 , in test for the moment , i hope
memtest stable @ 270mhz 2-2-2-5 +- 3.8v with a very good airflow :D .

[TEDY]

how on earth you guys get 270 on TWINMOS SPEED PREMIUM PC3500 ? GRRRRRR

[babyelf]

he said computersmsa bh-5 :)

[Pt1t]

how on earth you guys get 270 on TWINMOS SPEED PREMIUM PC3500 ? GRRRRRR

With my "old" twinmos sp pc3500 (with my old mobo epox 9nda3+), i can only run everest latence test @ 270 :D :slapass:
And the computersmsa BH5 run Beter

http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/latence.PNG

Some test during my lunch time (no optimisations)

CMSAM BH5
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/CSMA/Lecture_270.PNG
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/CSMA/ecriture_270.PNG
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/CSMA/latence_270.PNG
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/CSMA/SPI_1M_270.PNG

[babyelf]

nice.. but isn't 3.8v abit too much to give the ram? 24/7 settings?

[Pt1t]

nice.. but isn't 3.8v abit too much to give the ram? 24/7 settings?

Yes it is , but you dont need 270-280mhz ram for an 24/7 setting.

[babyelf]

ahh so it's not 24/7

cool :)

[computersmsa]

edited with ComputersMSA UTT
Thanks you and thanks Pt1t :)
I will start the sell in "for sale" with all in english in few hours !

Just lunch now : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65073
Maybe you can put a link on first post ? :D :toast:

[babyelf]

nice.. will check them out later :D

[nanashi]

anyone know if these twinmos http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=20-218-062&depa=1 are still winbond utt? Also which are the best winbond utt 1gig dual kit(on a budget) to buy atm :?

[babyelf]

i don't think they are anymore..

on a budget i'll give value vx a try..

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=63346
my own testing

[nanashi]

i don't think they are anymore..

on a budget i'll give value vx a try..

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=63346
my own testing

Nice, I'll look around for those and try to see were I can find them for the cheapest.

[babyelf]

have fun with them :)

[omga14]

i just got the twinmos bh-5's and they aren't performin well in my dfi ut 250gb. guess i'll have to burn them in but can anyone post what they've gotten so far with thiers? just so i can see what the average is for these modules. also should i burn them in one at a time or can i do both at once?

[babyelf]

i think if u're gonna run both stick together in the end burn in together...

[omga14]

worth a shot i guess. let you know how it goes in a week or two.

[babyelf]

cool... please do :)

[omga14]

so far not so good. 245@3.1v for one and 230@3.1v for the other. v increase makes no difference so i'll just burn em in. thing is even though they do this solo with no burn in if i put them in together @200 with the same timings i get mega errors. is it just my mem controller gone bad? i sure hope not cause i don't want to have to send this cpu back. if i have to that'll be like 2 weeks waiting for another to get back to me.

tested in all dimms individually also so it's not the dimms themselves either. this is not going well.

[TEDY]

omga14 : BURN IN

[TEDY]

10. Geil Value RAM using winbond UTT chips *Brain Power PCB*
How to Identify : Geil told customers to check with 2.85V 2-2-2-5 for UTT
2 of them with UTT chips have this PN:
PN : 1074-SN5001730
PN : 1259-SN5001385
PN : 1075-SN5001842
Look for Serial number with SN500xxxx and part number GE1GB3200BHDC
cpu-z reports the serial no. 20020725
Manufacturing date: week 255, year 255
Official Answer from Geil : Geil
Readings and user's results : Xtremesystems

anyone has them???? 100% BH-5 ??????????

[babyelf]

so far not so good. 245@3.1v for one and 230@3.1v for the other. v increase makes no difference so i'll just burn em in. thing is even though they do this solo with no burn in if i put them in together @200 with the same timings i get mega errors. is it just my mem controller gone bad? i sure hope not cause i don't want to have to send this cpu back. if i have to that'll be like 2 weeks waiting for another to get back to me.

tested in all dimms individually also so it's not the dimms themselves either. this is not going well.

i've seen that doing the exact same thing on a NF3 250GB.. i think that's what u are using right? and still haven't found a solution to it.. 1 stick will run flawlessly.. but 2 stick gives a crap load of errors.. try different bios.. i'm not sure whether it'll help but it's a start

hey TEDY.. i'll get my friend with the geil UTT to post.. there's already a few links in the first page if i'm not mistaken.. just see those users

[ArcTan]

http://www.mittoni.com.au/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/1983
au$252 for gskill

[babyelf]

thnx for the info arc.. site is down .. will add it later

[FLDQUY157]

http://www.mittoni.com.au/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/1983
au$252 for gskill

$hit I thought they only had the TCCD model!!! I'll get a pair then. :)

[omga14]

i've seen that doing the exact same thing on a NF3 250GB.. i think that's what u are using right? and still haven't found a solution to it.. 1 stick will run flawlessly.. but 2 stick gives a crap load of errors.. try different bios.. i'm not sure whether it'll help but it's a start

hey TEDY.. i'll get my friend with the geil UTT to post.. there's already a few links in the first page if i'm not mistaken.. just see those users

well this is not good. i tried the 10/15 bios and tic tacs 04/05, both to no avail. i don't want to go official cause then i'm limited to 3.2v's for future voltage experimentation. gonna let it run for a week and then just start burning in the ram. see what happens. unless i get impatient and try something else.

[omga14]

omga14 : BURN IN

did you have a similar problem and this solved it for you? or is it just a suggestion? i'm going to be burning in the sticks later but right now for they give issues with both installed so i'm just running them stock with 2-2-2-6 timings to let them settle in hopefully.

[babyelf]

let us know how it goes omga14 :)

[Jesse71]

Thanks you and thanks Pt1t :)
I will start the sell in "for sale" with all in english in few hours !

Just lunch now : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65073
Maybe you can put a link on first post ? :D :toast:

What is your age?
What are the status of your company?
What are your guarantees with your memories for english people ?
Isn't this illegal? :rolleyes:

[babyelf]

jesse71

u can't see it yet.. u'll see it when u are a "senior" member

[uwackme]

Got 2G from NewEgg today, its BH based and thats not what I needed.

Anyone want 4 512M sticks of ValueVX BH based?

[Aleman]

What do you need uwackme? :P

[TEDY]

what are ocz vx then ? BH-UTT ?

[nanashi]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227213 so you're saying this is bh?

[Aleman]

They were UTTCH

[babyelf]

they were UTT CH now UTT BH

[TEDY]

I just got some GEIL VALE 2*512

GE1GB3200BHDC

and on back PN0769-SN5004771

is it BH-5 ? :)

[babyelf]

best is to check the side of the IC :)

[don_vercetti]

see the thread on it for how to see if it's utt...hard to tell if it's bh-5 or ch-5 normally.

[TEDY]

ic?

[babyelf]

the chip.. check under the heatspreader

[high5]

ic == integrated circuit

you're looking for something like this:

http://img205.echo.cx/img205/2055/winbondch5sideview4qh.th.jpg (http://img205.echo.cx/my.php?image=winbondch5sideview4qh.jpg)

notice the two strips.

[TEDY]

eh void warranty :)

Only thing worries me that

PN0769-SN5004771

PN is 0769 , shouldnt be 1024 or what ?

other two things are ok...SN is 500 and there's is "BH" on label....

[high5]

you don't have to remove the h/s. just peek under it...

[TEDY]

http://img223.echo.cx/img223/2889/hpim03504lc.th.jpg (http://img223.echo.cx/my.php?image=hpim03504lc.jpg) http://img223.echo.cx/img223/6151/hpim03512oa.th.jpg (http://img223.echo.cx/my.php?image=hpim03512oa.jpg) http://img223.echo.cx/img223/2304/hpim03524qc.th.jpg (http://img223.echo.cx/my.php?image=hpim03524qc.jpg) http://img223.echo.cx/img223/7655/hpim03536la.th.jpg (http://img223.echo.cx/my.php?image=hpim03536la.jpg)
http://img223.echo.cx/img223/6578/hpim03552yn.th.jpg (http://img223.echo.cx/my.php?image=hpim03552yn.jpg) http://img223.echo.cx/img223/2444/hpim03565ay.th.jpg (http://img223.echo.cx/my.php?image=hpim03565ay.jpg)

Should be BH-5 ? :toast:

[babyelf]

yep.. looks like it to me..

[TEDY]

hm why does it beeps me at 2-2-2-5 at 200 tried 2.8-3.2v ????

http://img297.echo.cx/img297/4232/geil5qe.jpg

trying in yellow slot

[high5]

yep.. looks like it to me..
it doesn't look like to me. those two are more like dots than strips...

tedy, do some testing. can it do 2-3-3@200 and whats the limit no matter the timings?

[TEDY]

:banana::banana::banana::banana:ing hynix probably....thank god i can rma them easily.

[high5]

mosel more likely to me. thats why i ask you to try them out 2-3-3 and then try to see if it can do 220-230.

[TEDY]

maybe 5/10-3 not suitable ?

[high5]

you're reffering to bios rev, i assume?

dunno, i don't have any first hand experience with dfi nf4.

[TEDY]

rofl what a piece of crap this ram

2-3-3-6 not even 220 at 2.7-2.9v

OMG

RMA out on monday :)

[don_vercetti]

those dots are too small, high5's right. Looks more like Hynix to me.

[high5]

rofl what a piece of crap this ram

2-3-3-6 not even 220 at 2.7-2.9v
just a second, it does 2-3-3@200?

for 220-230, you have to relax the timings a bit, like 2.5-3-3.

[TEDY]

didn't bother either with 2-3-3- at 200

kako ima tamo dole ? :D s gdje si ? :)

komšija :=)

few more pics

http://img300.echo.cx/img300/2928/hpim03572kv.th.jpg (http://img300.echo.cx/my.php?image=hpim03572kv.jpg) http://img300.echo.cx/img300/7263/hpim03596xn.th.jpg (http://img300.echo.cx/my.php?image=hpim03596xn.jpg)

[high5]

didn't bother either with 2-3-3- at 200

okay then.



kako ima tamo dole ? :D s gdje si ? :)

komšija :=)

kaže se 'šta ima tamo dolje?' :p:

studiram u zagrebu, inače sam iz kutine. a ti? :)

[TEDY]

Kranj , 25km sjeverno od Ljubljane...hehe :p

Ovi GEIL VALUE jesu ološ :) Dobro što jih možem vratit brez ikakvog razloga, kupio sam jih jučer online, dobijo danas a stvarnu so "gamat"......hehe

Sorry for non english party...

Was just saying that these GEIL VALUE is piece of s**t.....god lord i can RMA then without any reason, bought them online :)

[babyelf]

dots?? can you take a closer picture of the side again? can't really see.. looks like strips to me

[high5]

its obvious (at least to me) from this pic.

http://img223.echo.cx/img223/2304/hpim03524qc.th.jpg (http://img223.echo.cx/my.php?image=hpim03524qc.jpg)

[babyelf]

looking at it again .. it is lol..

i'll add this to the database.. so that others know

[TEDY]

glad i helped is some way with pics :>

[babyelf]

:) thnx TEDY.. updated first post with picture :)

[Zanr Zij]

Corsair CMX3200 6.1 ( without any charater ), Corsair, C2PT 1.7 have UTT chip... I'm sure that. My company is distributor of Corsair in Vietnam. These newest product I've received...

[babyelf]

1.7 as well?

can take a pic? :) thnx

[high5]

can take a pic? :) thnx
pic like tedy took would be great. to see the side part of ic's if possible...

[babyelf]

xin chao`

i need picture for the record on the first page :)

not that i don't believe u :)

[burningrave101]

What do you guys think would be the better option, OCZ VX Gold UTT-BH or G. Skill's PC3200 GH UTT-BH? Is the OCZ Gold more hit and miss? Are all new TwinMOS speed premium modules UTT-BH now or is it still luck of the draw?

OCZ PC3200 Gold is UTT-BH i guess so what is the PC3200 Gold VX? Is it UTT-CH or UTT-BH?

[babyelf]

twinmos speed premium 3200 = ch 3500 = bh

i think all of them are the same.. they all make good quality ram :)

[burningrave101]

Aren't alot of people getting bh now with the PC3200 Speed Premium? Thats what i heard anyways.

[babyelf]

i'm not sure.. but my m8's 3200 is CH

u can just check for AA4T or 1A4T if possible

[babyelf]

update on how to identify value vx :D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=910813&postcount=3

[babyelf]

added 3500GX on the list :)

[uwackme]

How about who gives a crap about BH sticks. Compile a list of currently available UTT-CH based sticks. I think we shall find there simply aren't any left. Everything has gone BH and its crap in comparison.

[13oost]

meh, its not necessarily crap.... BH has its upperhand in areas that the CH just quite dosent have...

but from the "dead" sticks on the NF4, it looks like alot of them are CH-UTT and a few TCCD/5 but thse are truely dead in most cases...

bh is still extreamly fast, more tolerable, and can hold the tight timmings, it just isnt the record breaker that the CH-5 is on average

[babyelf]

How about who gives a crap about BH sticks. Compile a list of currently available UTT-CH based sticks. I think we shall find there simply aren't any left. Everything has gone BH and its crap in comparison.

and i guess u'll do it?

if u're saying the list i compile is not useful go ahead.. remove it.. i don't mind..

IMO there's no real big difference between CH or BH.. they are hitting almost the same speeds so a comparison isn't really needed.. u have good and bad BH sticks.. and u have good and bad CH sticks..

[Zanr Zij]

xin chao`

i need picture for the record on the first page :)

not that i don't believe u :)


haha... Xin chào... Ko ngờ đấy :D

okie, I'll Post Pic of my BH-5 Corsair 1.7 and... more

[babyelf]

ban khoe khong?

ok thnx.. :D

[ArcTan]

ban khoe khong?

ok thnx.. :Drofl

[FLDQUY157]

update on how to identify value vx :D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=910813&postcount=3


Thanx a lot. Mine should be BH-5 then ==> 2J-50.

I will pick up my SLI-DR next week and see how this Value VX can do. :cool:

[babyelf]

no problem man...

have fun with ur new board :D

[nanashi]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227213 so you're saying this is bh?

just ordered this last Friday, it's the same kind babyelf suggested to me 2 or 3 pages earlier. It is supposed to arrive on the 23rd, I will check the chip codes and report back as to whether or not it's BH or CH(I know it's likely to be BH). My question is that, I plan to use it at stock speed/voltage for a few months on this computer before I build another one, would I still be able to do a burn in later(3-6 months down the road)?

[babyelf]

yea it shouldn't be a problem when u burn it.. good luck :)

[nop]

babyelf,

What should I put in with my up coming Sandy 4000 in term of o/c, BH-5 or TCCD ?
"krob khun krab" ;)

[babyelf]

i'd say BH-5 :D

;)

[nanashi]

just ordered this last Friday, it's the same kind babyelf suggested to me 2 or 3 pages earlier. It is supposed to arrive on the 23rd, I will check the chip codes and report back as to whether or not it's BH or CH(I know it's likely to be BH). My question is that, I plan to use it at stock speed/voltage for a few months on this computer before I build another one, would I still be able to do a burn in later(3-6 months down the road)?


update: these just arrived at my door(a day early). They are 2J-50 chipcode(BH) and have the old stickers on them(2.5-4-4-8).

[babyelf]

nice.. do some testing and let us know :)

[Zanr Zij]

ban khoe khong?

ok thnx.. :D


1st about Corsair CMX512 6.1 ( TwinX1024-3200 )

http://img276.echo.cx/img276/9624/ddr5209vi.jpg

[Zanr Zij]

Pic of CMX-512 v6.1...

[thienloi]

haha... Xin chào... Ko ngờ đấy :D

okie, I'll Post Pic of my BH-5 Corsair 1.7 and... more

Corsair v1.7 is UTT BH5?
I can't set 250 2-2-2-5 at 3.2-3.3V. It's ok at 3.4V :confused:

[babyelf]

theinloi.. which corsair do you have?

Zanr Zij .. thnx for the picture ... updating now :)

[TMM]

Just got some Corsair 3200C2 Rev 5.1

Haven't taken the heatspreaders off yet, but it certainly is acting like BH-5 (won't run CAS3 and LOVES voltage)

[Zanr Zij]

Corsair v1.7 is UTT BH5?
I can't set 250 2-2-2-5 at 3.2-3.3V. It's ok at 3.4V :confused:

Yes...U can see the pic
But I can@3.2v ;).. Plzz wait 4 more result :)

[babyelf]

Just got some Corsair 3200C2 Rev 5.1

Haven't taken the heatspreaders off yet, but it certainly is acting like BH-5 (won't run CAS3 and LOVES voltage)

????

5.1 is supposed to be mosel chips =.=

[TMM]

sorry typo, I meant 1.5 :D

heres some pics:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/TMMTMMTMM/P1010011.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/TMMTMMTMM/P1010010.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/TMMTMMTMM/P1010008.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/TMMTMMTMM/P1010005.jpg


Memtest86 test #5 with one stick (i was taking the Heatspreader off the other one at the time ;)) ONLY 2.85v - my motherboards max :)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/TMMTMMTMM/P1010012.jpg

[babyelf]

nice :)

[high5]

babyelf, have you seen this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=936406#post936406)?

it looks just like that geil value tedy had. two metal dots on the side.

another thing, my friend who works in a computer shop told me they had buffalo value ram with utt recently. ic's had all the typical winbond markings, including 2 dimples. the latest batch they got looks just like the ones on tedy's geil and that vx value, that is no dimples, with two dots on the side.

[babyelf]

the dots looks a bit small to be UTT.. do you have a bigger picture of it?

hmm buffalo UTT eh? =/ haven't seen one.. anyone got any buffalo UTT lately?

[high5]

that is my point also, we determined that tedy's wasn't utt and this ocz is supposed to be utt based, but according to this pics, it doesn't look as it is.

as for buffalo, i'll try to get more info this week.

[babyelf]

yea.. hmm get a bigger pic.. the dots looks small to me

[DeltZ]

is there any difference between UTT and "new bh-5"?

Cause i know that UTT doesn't work ...at all on P4c800 series
so will this "new bh-5" which i've seen around not work either? there seem to be mixed definitions in ram list etc etc. Or will i have to get old school BH-5?

[stealth17]

is there any difference between UTT and "new bh-5"?

Cause i know that UTT doesn't work ...at all on P4c800 series
so will this "new bh-5" which i've seen around not work either? there seem to be mixed definitions in ram list etc etc. Or will i have to get old school BH-5?

there is two kinds of utt. one is utt-bh (the new bh-5) and the other is utt-ch.

i have bh-5 for sale, pm if interested. i have 4 gigs worth ;)

[Zanr Zij]

result of Corsair 3200C2PT 1.7@3.6v



http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/3919/28spi3ql.jpg

[babyelf]

damn... those are nice clocks... have any more left there? :p

[Zanr Zij]

any update about Corsair C2PT v1.7 , babyelf ?

[Sila]

Do anyone know what chip there are on Corsair xms Pc3200 v 1.5 ratet 3-3-3-8

[nie_realny]

:welcome:

I am greet unhappy :shrug: ( I as yet) owner 4x512MB Twinmos I have BH5 UTT 1A4Tgdyż problems with achievement stable settings (even SPD) :{

All on 2x512B is OK

I wait on help :) you can pass (how mat 4x512MB) your settings from biosu

My config this:

DFI NF4 Ultra - D bios 412-2, A64 3000 + venice, chieftec 420W,

I apologize for my English

[babyelf]

:welcome:

I am greet unhappy :shrug: ( I as yet) owner 4x512MB Twinmos I have BH5 UTT 1A4Tgdyż problems with achievement stable settings (even SPD) :{

All on 2x512B is OK

I wait on help :) you can pass (how mat 4x512MB) your settings from biosu

My config this:

DFI NF4 Ultra - D bios 412-2, A64 3000 + venice, chieftec 420W,

I apologize for my English

i believe OPB did a test on 4 sticks of BH-5 before :)

which processor do you have?

clawhammer, newcastle, winchester = DDR333 2T
venice , sandiego = DDR400 2T

[Pt1t]

2*512Mo Computersmsa memory new BH5

3.7v SPI 1M
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/spiac_2974_opti.PNG

3.8v Everest
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/CSMA/BH5_276.PNG

[babyelf]

very nice pt1t :)

u think there's more in it after burning in?

[Pt1t]

very nice pt1t :)

u think there's more in it after burning in?

Yep , at begining i cant bench @ 3.8v :D (Screens with +- 27° ambiant temp). Now , I have to wait winter to bench up 280mhz .

[babyelf]

Yep , at begining i cant bench @ 3.8v :D (Screens with +- 27° ambiant temp). Now , I have to wait winter to bench up 280mhz .

lol awaits your winter benchies :D

[Backbone]

which is cheapest ram with UTT or UTT -BH5 ?

[dqniel]

The cheapest is the speed premium I believe, but I don't think you're 100% garuanteed to get the good stuff (utt)

[Dillusion]

The new mushkin Blue Line 3200 C2 3-3-2 is Hynix chips on the black PCB. Only the green brainpower PCB has the UTT chips on them.

[don_vercetti]

the cheapest was geil value, i got some utt bh-5 with that that can run 260mhz 2-2-2-6 with 3.2v. It's very hit and miss, whether you get it or not though.

cost me £59 btw, for 1gb.

[Dillusion]

Is there a model # associated with the Geil UTT sticks?

[don_vercetti]

i do not have a clue. I just heard there was UTT in some of them, saw it for £59, thought why the hell not, and got lucky. Others have, haven't heard any recent reports.

[Dillusion]

Oh. Well my mushkin blue UTT just came in, we'll see how it performans and if i got CH or BH

[Monge]

Oh. Well my mushkin blue UTT just came in, we'll see how it performans and if i got CH or BH

Yeah, please tell us if they are new BH-5 or UTT/CH-5 :)

My 1G Mushkin dualkit Blue Line (new BH-5) need 3.4v to hit 250MHz 2-2-2-5 Superpi 32M stable and 3.3V to hit 245MHz. I bought it long time ago.

[tgm_of_xxl]

Can anyone tell me what types of chips are used in this http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/memory_detail.asp?ID=15 memory modules?
Thanks a lot!

[TMM]

for 2-2-2 @ 2.5v, i'd say they are TCCD/TCC5

edit: it is indeed TCCD


Below, we found that the PC3200 LII V2 is using Samsung K4H560838F-TCCD DRAM.
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1668

[Dillusion]

Yeah, please tell us if they are new BH-5 or UTT/CH-5 :)

My 1G Mushkin dualkit Blue Line (new BH-5) need 3.4v to hit 250MHz 2-2-2-5 Superpi 32M stable and 3.3V to hit 245MHz. I bought it long time ago.

my Mushkin blues are infact BH-Died IC's they do 2-2-2 1T @ 2.8v.

[Monge]

my Mushkin blues are infact BH-Died IC's they do 2-2-2 1T @ 2.8v.
Great :)
I also got 3 sticks of 512MB Vdata Brainpower PCB 808 (40516 on chips) and they are all UTT/BH-5. The do 250MHz@3.4v in dual on DFI NF4. They also work perfect in my Abit AI7 board. Very nice ram I got for cheap. I bought the last ones sometime ago and the suplier won't get the Vdata UTT again.

[Dillusion]

Yeah i got mine off an ebay auction from mushkin direct, must have been old stock or a working RMA. I took the spreaders off and they are blank IC's but i know they are UTT for a fact.

Do you think 3.4v is 24/7 safe?

[TMM]

personally i wouldn't do over 3.2v for 24/7, but hey this is Xtremesystems!

[TEDY]

what is this

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=2774&s=1

[high5]

utt bh

[Aleman]

Are there any new rams or old or whatever...Rams with UTT anymore? (other than VX, GSkill Value GH, and Redline?)

[Nephilim]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Nephilim666/IMG_1744.jpg

shouldn't those silver tabs be a little bigger? I compared to another PC4000VX kit and they were bigger on those sticks, likewise with PC3200 VX, PC3200 Gold and PC3200 Value VX... any ideas?

The RAM won't get into memtest at 3.2v let alone run at DDR500 at 3.5v. :stick:

[largon]

Nephilim,
That's not a Winbond chip...

Mushkin ran out of UTT - and they announced all UTT based products EOL.
OCZ's UTT stock seems to have dried up too, but I've heard nothing from them. No statements of spec changes or anything. :eh: